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| tiramisu |
Posted
on 24-May-02 04:44 AM
day in day out i see outpourings flowing out like the ganga, outpourings seething with rage, burning like hell, truth hurting where it hurts most.
i'd like to see if any one of us- who give lectures in these forum on leadership qualities, whose outcries about the killings end up pointing fingers on who's to blame for what, who preach in the name of peace- has the guts to pull up his socks, stand up as the much needed leader and lead all nepalis to peace and relief.
from my observation, all of the visitors to these forums agree on the general reasons for the downfall of Nepal, that is corruption, corrupted leaders, illiterate citizens.
i guess it is now time to figure out whether the same people who makes us nod when reading their lines here will be brave enough to come forward..to lead the nation if it is what u believe it needs, a leader brave enough to bring changes..
ANYONE?
THE COUNTRY IS PRAYING FOR THAT LEADER TO COME OUT, SHE IS CALLING OUT FOR YOU, DO YOU HEAR HER PLEAS?
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| KG |
Posted
on 24-May-02 09:31 AM
Tiramisu:
I agree with you 100+%, if there is such a thing. That is one of the reasons I have stopped criticising about things back home. We, as a country have a littany of problems that overwhelm even the most optimistic person. But you have expressed a good point. War and criticism are easier than peace and finding a solution. I have come to the believe nowadays that economy plays a vital role in any country's welfare.
Thus, before I curse, criticise, and preach politics, I would like to earn enough money here and start a business back home, thereby creating jobs back home! If you don't believe the influence of "money" in politics, just rent a movie about the diamond company "De Beers" or read a book on it. This company virtually changed the history of South Africa. You will see Nelson Mandela shanking hands with the owners of this company before elections.
I personally think although some blame for the popularity of the "people's war" can be placed on the current politicians, most of it goes to the economy. What do you expect when most of youth have no jobs, direction, hope, and no money to take care of family? It's going to be a long time, before there will be true statesmen/women, who truly care about the people. So I say, we start with the private sector. Private businesses should donate money for the welfare of the people in the remote areas. The wellbeing of the inhabitants of the remote regions and the wellbeing of the private business are interlinked. For as long as there is political turmoil, there is adverse effect on business in general, unless of course, you are selling arms or something. Beisdes, it would be a good PR campaign for the comapany-a win win situation.
Being in business school, perhaps mine is a very biased opinion, but I think it is constructive as well.
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| huh |
Posted
on 24-May-02 09:49 AM
Good idea ! what nepal needs is growth of every sector(business, industrial, educational,..) every field intefered by power hungry politicians can not lead the country in right direction. What our leadersshould think more is to create more opportunities for economic prosperity of poor people, but it is very disappointing fact that leaders from nepali congress to maoist, from RPP to UML only engaged in dirty power play game in the name of people and democracy.
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| tiramisu |
Posted
on 24-May-02 11:47 AM
i know i will be lectured if i tell advisors to become leaders. but would the same advisors prefer advising to deaf ears and wait for the Messiah himself to come down to earth or rather, muster courage themselves and ACT?
I'd like to hear from the likes of paschim, nepe, aashu, hahoo goroo and durluv who have greatly influenced me with their expressions.
i agree with what KG had to say about economy playing a vital role in a country's welfare. and for an economy to run well, we need entrepreneurs, volunteers, donors, not in dozens, but in hundreds.
Of providing such manpower, nepalis are now capable- if all of us fortunate enough to have good education and good life elsewhere than nepal- join heads and work on the issues hovering in our minds, but yet to be acted upon LET'S COME TOGETHER, RIGHT NOW. let us start sharing ideas, not in complacent manner, but vigorously. let us start investing in OUR NEPAL's economy, let us come forward as volunteers willing to take developmental stategies to the furthest in the kingdom and START ACTING on them.
WE OWE OUR COUNTRY THAT MUCH FOR RAISING US AS WHO WE ARE, CITIZENS OF A SOVEREIGN NATION THAT IS 'OUR NEPAL'.
how about starting those very welfare programmes by first organising a meeting to determine the gravest needs(food? health? water? school? irrigation?) of people from the remotest part of the kingdom?
since it has always been the other way round till now, and things have gone so wrong, perhaps it would be worth a try to start anew from the remotest end, at least then we can say that we tried...
can one of the numerous established nepali organisations in America be brave enough to shoulder this smallest or burdens, if it is at all one?
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| CHATPATTI |
Posted
on 24-May-02 11:48 AM
i know i will be lectured if i tell advisors to become leaders. but would the same advisors prefer advising to deaf ears and wait for the Messiah himself to come down to earth or rather, muster courage themselves and ACT?
I'd like to hear from the likes of paschim, nepe, aashu, hahoo goroo and durluv who have greatly influenced me with their expressions.
i agree with what KG had to say about economy playing a vital role in a country's welfare. and for an economy to run well, we need entrepreneurs, volunteers, donors, not in dozens, but in hundreds.
Of providing such manpower, nepalis are now capable- if all of us fortunate enough to have good education and good life elsewhere than nepal- join heads and work on the issues hovering in our minds, but yet to be acted upon LET'S COME TOGETHER, RIGHT NOW. let us start sharing ideas, not in complacent manner, but vigorously. let us start investing in OUR NEPAL's economy, let us come forward as volunteers willing to take developmental stategies to the furthest in the kingdom and START ACTING on them.
WE OWE OUR COUNTRY THAT MUCH FOR RAISING US AS WHO WE ARE, CITIZENS OF A SOVEREIGN NATION THAT IS 'OUR NEPAL'.
how about starting those very welfare programmes by first organising a meeting to determine the gravest needs(food? health? water? school? irrigation?) of people from the remotest part of the kingdom?
since it has always been the other way round till now, and things have gone so wrong, perhaps it would be worth a try to start anew from the remotest end, at least then we can say that we tried...
can one of the numerous established nepali organisations in America be brave enough to shoulder this smallest or burdens, if it is at all one?
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| dhatteri |
Posted
on 27-May-02 09:39 AM
i know it is easier said than done, now that the likes of nepe, paschim, aashu, biswo have put a full stop to answering to this thread.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-May-02 12:18 AM
Interesting, isn't it?
Dhatteri, Tirimasu, Chatpati all have the same ID number :-)
To answer your questions, leadership does NOT refer ONLY to party-political leadership. There are many kinds of leadership.
Some among us all can aspire to 'THOUGHT' LEADERSHIP in his or her field
by doing first-rate, original research in physics, anthropology, economics,
civil engineering and so on. Most Nobel Prizes, for instance, go to
thought-leaders, you know. Also, one can write articles, post provocative postings and try to influence public opinions -- thereby assuming
THOUGHT leadership.
Some among us all can aspire to 'SOCIAL' LEADERSHIP by being making organizations such as Rotary Club, Lions Club, GBNC, GAA, SEBS and so on
more vibrant and more connected to their clientele, and so on and on. This
sort of leadership requires a portfolio of (interpersonal) skills.
Some among us can also aspire to INDUSTRY LEADERSHIP by running one's company or firm or business -- innovatively and profitably, making it the envy
of the rest of the competitors in the market.
Still, some more can also aspire to CIVIC LEADERSHIP by doing volunteer work in one's tole, woda, zilla and anchal -- helping the local politicians and/or people
make better decisions and do better work.
Then there's this idea of being a leader in one's profession, thereby making your peers, colleagues and junior colleagues look up to you with professional respect: and this is true whether you are a doctor or an engineer or lawyer or an investment banker or a computer programmer or a writer or whatever else.
Finally, sure, one can do one's campaign, win an election, be a politician and represent thousands of people in the Parliament or in the DDC, VDC, Nagar
Palika and so on.
So, you see, it is possible to be become a LEADER in Nepal and among Nepali communities with followers WITHOUT ever having to go through some big politically-charged election.
And so, the biggest challenge for and in Nepal is NOT to pin ALL our hopes on party-political leadership (as most of us automatically do), but to help create -- slowly but surely -- opportunities and avenues so that many other kinds of leadership can INDEPENDENTLY flourish and do better in Nepal.
After all, think, why should an anthropologist at TU find it hard to do his
research just because the government changes?
If anything, I'd argue there is TOO MUCH party-political neta-giri in Nepal,
and we do NOT need more of it.
What we need are MORE thought leaders, more civic leaders, more professionally competent leaders and so on and on out there in PUBLIC -- so that in Nepal politics ALONE does NOT become the ONE and ONLY way to connect to the public at
large.
Let's work hard to help make more Nepalis leaders in various fields so that we do
not have to depend ONLY on party-political netas to make us better.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| dhatteri, tiramisu, chatp |
Posted
on 28-May-02 03:12 AM
when the entire country closes down due to threats from maoists, what can those thought leaders, business leaders, and so forth leaders do except take a back seat?
unless a true and courageous leader comes out who is willing to lead the nation under the greatest of difficulties, all the other 'leaders' do not count
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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-May-02 05:28 AM
Well, I don't know about that.
In Kathmandu and in Nepal generally, I do see various people doing all kinds of positive work in their own small, small ways.
Just because these people are NOT household names or just because these people have NOT solved the big problems overnight does NOT diminish the importance of their small, small work. If anything, we need more of them,
doing more of such work.
Solving Nepal's various problems is a very complex task.
There can be no ONE or two leaders who have all the answers and who
can solve all the problems.
And so, it is up to us --wherever we may be -- to be mini-leaders in our fields of endeavors in our own way, and do our bit well, and hope that all our efforts eventually add up to things that are greater than ourselves.
Let's have faith in our slow but sure ability to do the right things ourselves.
To throw our individual civic responsibilities out of the window and sit back and pine for a Superman or two to take care of us is a sign of despair and diffidence.
Surely, we can do better than this.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| tiramisu, dhatteri, chatp |
Posted
on 29-May-02 02:01 AM
dear ashu,
i value your comments and i agree with what you had to say regarding all of us contributing in our own small ways to Nepal's economy and infrastructure.
but the reason i started this thread was because so much of lecturing, accusing, venting of frustration was going on...what with all the 'kill the maoists!',' kill girija!' 'enough of injustice' 'education reforms needed' and countless others..
AND, i observed such comments gaining strength from and support of almost all of the contributors to these forums.
so i wondered if any of us, venting our fury in these columns was ready at all to face the greatest challenge of all. i guess, at the end of the day, none of us are prepared to face the devil in the eye.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 29-May-02 03:14 AM
tiramisu, dhatteri, chatpati wrote:
but the reason i started this thread was because so much of lecturing, accusing, venting of frustration was going on...what with all the 'kill the maoists!',' kill girija!' 'enough of injustice' 'education reforms needed' and countless others..
AND, i observed such comments gaining strength from and support of almost all of the contributors to these forums.
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I fully share your concerns.
You are right to raise them.
It is indeed depressing to see how some Nepalis -- even highly educated
ones -- continue to substitute "easy gaali" and catchy slogans for critical,
complex analyses, and continue to wish for a banevolent dictator or two in
Nepal to set things right -- whatever this "setting things right" means.
In this forum, two other people who have consistently (if at times, implicitly) voiced against dictatorship of any kind are: Biswo and Paschim. So there ARE people who don't follow the herd.
What pro-dictator folks NEVER seem to realize is that having a dictator is like keeping a cobra as a pet to ward off other dangerous animals.
Now, this may look fine up to a point, but the risks are way too great in
that you just don't know when that cobra will strike you too.
You get the drift.
To a dictator, you are either a supporter who worships him or an enemy who needs to be crushed. There's no middle ground, no grey area, no legally consistent deliberations and so on and on. Who wants to live in such a black-and-white world? Such a system may be perfect for, say, raising cattle in a ranch,
but the Nepali people -- despite what some politicians seem to think -- are
neither cattle nor sheep.
And so, despite the palpable present problems, I, for one, see no alternative to these mass frustrations, mass anger, mass snap judgments and so on than slow, deliberate, continuous, empathy-laden yet rational CALMING of the collective nerve -- through our own various small, small acts.
That said, unfortunately, there are no short cuts in our democracy, and the journey IS, by nature, a long, long one -- especially in societies like ours that
have spent 1000s of years under authoritarianism and only mere a dozen years
as a Western-style liberal democracy with the attandant rights and
responsibilities.
If anything, our concern need to be: How to democratize more and more parts and aspects of Nepali lives.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| KG |
Posted
on 30-May-02 10:46 AM
Dear friends:
Did you know that the number one export of Cuba is music? I bet you thought it was Cuban cigars. Many young Nepali people seem to be playing one sort of musical instrument or another. Why can't we invest in the music industry too, perhaps one day we will have our own "Buena Vista Social Club", that will perform in Carnegie Hall and will be bought by most American houselholds. Music is my passion so I encourage my friends to support out local artists so they can keep developing our music.
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