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| Biswo |
Posted
on 17-Jun-02 05:15 PM
In his long quest for (retaining)power,Girija is facing the toughmost resistance now, and he is facing that challenge sans his classic chutzpah, and confidence. You can see him lashing out at the perfidicious Sher Bdr Deuba at the eastern region conference of Nepali Congress (rump) activists, you can see him scolding his assistant Shushil Koirala for making too much noise publicly, yet, what is so apparent is whenever he makes some move, he now tries to be alert like a lion, and waits around and advances his step, and right now, like a prehensile predator after moving his steps, he is anxiously waiting for another move from the prime minister. Ask him to reinstate party membership of Mr Deuba, he replies, "No way." But then makes provision for the reinstatement. Yes, it is all tantrum. He grumbles that the man whom he affectionately gave power and everything is challenging him. If we try to be Mr Koirala and look around, it looks so awful. Everyone who slavishly encircled him in the past have now turned against him.Being Girija is rightnow is almost like being a general who still waves at parade long passed by. A passe, a man after shredding most of his previous glory. His past is surprisingly not so remarkable.After successfully co-leading the workers in Biratnagar against the tyranny of Rana regime, Girija somehow rests at the silhoutte of his more illustratious brother, BP. His role is mainly that of ancillary around 2010s and 2020s, and of messenger around the incarceration of BP Koirala. He slips into and comes out of Narayanhiti palace a lot of times, trying to break a deal with king, but he can't get it done. Even in 2036 revolution, when ailing BP directs people like Kailash Karki (first student to be arrested),Sher Bdr Deuba, Chiranjibi Wagle,(arrested next day after Mr Karki) and Minedra Rijal(arrested the day after Mr Deuba was arrested), Girija rarely appears around. Girija comes to NC power amidst NC brawls after the demise of Subarna Shamsher in Nov 1977, when BP Koirala nominates Krishna Prasad Bhattarai as NC President and Girija and Parashu Chaudhari as secretary general. This was a watershed moment in the life of Girija. He somehow learns that NC is a crowd, and anyone, even as dumb and passive as him, can be a leader in NC. His major reasoning for clannish legacy is probably something like "If Girija at that time deserved to be secretary general, why not another Koirala(Sujata, Shushil etc.) now?" Girija consolidates his power in NC in post BP era, when his slender body , his thick glasses, tall nose and bald head are affectionately started to be recognized among NC mass. Girija 'Babu' becomes the most popular in NC. He was a radical and no-nonsense leader, who confronted the rising tide of first ruthless Panchayat ,and in post Panchayat, of those increasing communists.He commands 80+% of votes in the first election of NC general convention to become party president, and 63% in the next one. Despite obvious sliding of votes, he clings on to power, bulldozing the opponents, neglecting them completely, betraying his colleagues and in a true sense, following Machiavelly. In these days, he is fighting a war of legacy.You want prediction? Well, time is gonna betray him. He is already around 80. If the party breaks now, UML is likely to go to power. Then, power hungry and glum NC workers are likely to slowly rat on Deuba's party, and join Girija. But if Girija dies before being able to regain power, people won't be there to root for another Koirala. Deuba is in absolutely better position than that of Bamdev and his thuggish gangs of the then CPN(ML).
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| Paschim |
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on 18-Jun-02 10:46 PM
The Nepali Congress has split, hoina ta? Bitter ego issues, you see, no ideological differences. They'll unite before long. But what an ignominy for its President. So, let's talk about him. I agree with a few of Biswo's assessments, and I personally think the following of Girija Prasad Koirala (GPK): 1. GPK is a spent political force and wasted opportunity 2. GPK’s personal strengths have been overshadowed by his public follies 3. GPK will be remembered as awkward and tragic, not a villain, upon death. I am not fond of him, but it would be rude to let my sense of dislike get in the way of a fair evaluation of a public figure who has been in politics for 56 years. And I happen to disagree with some reasons popularly given to discredit him: 1. GPK has no political credentials. His pre-1990 background in politics is as impressive as that of KPB and Manmohan. Only that he was hopeless in PR and kept a low profile. A loyal comrade-in-arms of his illustrious brother, BP, this tie helped and hindered his career (despite being the Chairman of Morang Congress in 1958, GPK was denied a parliamentary ticket by BP who wanted to avoid charges of nepotism). 2. GPK's record as a leader has been disastrous. It has been wanting, but not disastrous. His roles in the failed armed rebellion, Satyagraha, and the Jana Andolan were crucial. Kings saw his mettle when they negotiated with him on two occasions – Mahendra around 1968 and Birendra around 1986. After democracy, between 1991 and 1993, GPK presided over a phase of liberalization and growth, admin reforms, and a gradual withdrawal of sovereign power from the palace to the elected PM’s office. But he felt he had the right to be intolerant. Big mistake. His failure to manage dissent sabotaged this momentum. He lost the grip in 1994 and Nepal has been on the slide since. GPK’s term as PM during 1998-99 was a modest attempt to make minor amends. The elections were conducted well in the aftermath of a disgusting coalition fiasco of which he was not part and brewing Maoist threats in the hinterlands. But the damage had been done, and he failed to contain more intra-party feud. His larger error was perhaps not in propelling selfish defections, but in promoting dubious cronies like Khum and Bijaya in the first place when he should have groomed decent allies like Ram Chandra and Bhim Bahadur Tamang. With Sher Bahadur, he had been kind, pampering him all along, making him Home Minister in 1991, and effectively ordering the able and fierce Shailaja Acharya to withdraw in favor of Sher Bahadur in 1995. Deuba hasn’t looked back since. GPK is reserved enough to not explicitly show this aspect of his pain. But to witness one’s party’s split while one is its president is an ignominy that does question one’s leadership. 3. GPK is corrupt. Imprecise. The man seems to have no lust for personal wealth. In Kathmandu, he is homeless and makes do with two simple rooms in his nephew Sashanka Koirala’s house while his protégés, including Sher Bahadur, have built vulgar palaces from undeclared sources. But he did turn a blind eye to corruption. Recall the Khums, JPs, Bijayas. Condoning corruption is an act of corruption too, but I think it will be harder to criminally prosecute GPK than all his rivals who are all guilty of corruption: from Sher and Surya Bahadur to the Maoists and the UML folks. Only exception would be KPB. This is telling. Sujata’s roles were said to be fishy, but looking at how Lauda and Dhamija fizzled out, one feels they were more oppositional theatrics than overt vices. I could be wrong. In the final analysis, however, GPK *is* an unsuccessful leader. His inability to manage discontent within the party, neuter oppositional forces, and give stability to his party’s stay in power has tarnished his pre-1990 reputation. I consciously fall short of calling him a “failure” though. Spectacularly unsuccessful perhaps, but not a failure. His life served purposes. But what made him squander an historic opportunity to do good? Was he really not up to it? I really don’t know, but all my reasons lead to the phrase: elements of feudalism. Isn't that an oxymoron? A feudal democrat? Add up his following five failings: i) arrogance of public power, ii) over-expectation of loyalty from allies, iii) undifferentiated extension of patronage, iv) conflicting management of family obligations and nepotism; v) inadequate attention to respectful dialogue and negotiating skills. All roads lead to a feudal Rome. Add to this the three great Girija paradoxes: 1. How could an average man in private with the simplest of tastes head cabinets that became despicably venal, permitting some to amass such volumes of ill-gotten wealth that they were to have the effrontery to challenge the patron himself eventually (examples: Khum, Bijaya, JP, Sher, Chiranjivi). 2. How could a man who fought for half a century for democracy with utmost sincerity and hardship fail to democratize his own ‘democratic’ party and indeed his highly progressive family (GPK married an untouchable woman and the Koiralas have consistently encouraged radical inter-caste and inter-national nuptials). 3. How could an 80 year old man who lacks the basics of charisma - intelligence, presentation, and oratory – remain the most popular leader in the Nepali Congress even in his worst day in politics? Forget the young turks. Loyalty to Sher Bahadur today is conspicuously fickle – most have rushed for spoils of transient power. This rush has little personal, ideological or historical base. Sher Bahadur Deuba knows this and with morally vacuous lieutenants like Chiranjivi Wagle, Khum Bahadur Khadka and Bijaya Gacchedaar, and dubious blessings from ugly sources such as the aristocracy, palace, and the army, Deuba should know the limits of his growth. Watch his career from now on. It will get interesting. So, what explains the Girija puzzles? I don’t have the answers. Perhaps by the time GPK dies, and I would have sat down to draft an obituary of this tall man from Morang on whom history thrust a big role that he was unable to execute with grace, I will have found some clues. Please stay tuned for the death of Girija Prasad Koirala and my obituary of him!
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 01:05 PM
Yep, NC split was a response from Deuba to GP in this long running chess. It is evidently not a checkmate, however. The game is still being played. To go over some incidents preceding this split: I think it was wrong and pathetic to summon the prime minister for answers by Mr Sore Loser, Shushil Koirala. He had no right to ask explanations from elected PM. This whole NC Central Committee is illegitimate thing, a lot of members are just nominated extras. They were very intolerant to dissents. "Expulsion" was used so cheaply. But of course, Deuba is the riddle. I don't understand how he didn't even take people like Ram Chandra Poudel in confidence, why he didn't even tell his own ministers about dissolution of parliament etc. He just messed up whole game.I think he has just formed Nepali Congress (ML), which will fizzle out sooner or later. Too bad, people like Govinda Raj Joshi didn't join this sinking boat. All corrupts like Gachchadar,Khum Bdr, Wagle, Bal Bdr KC are already aboard. I think these people will probably get a few seats in Remote Western Nepal and around Khum Bdr's influence area in upcoming election, that's all they will have. Btw, it is also likely that this NC split will force GP to work more, and be another Manmohan during election campaign, thereby providing you a good chance to write an obit:-) By the way, I am not sure if I agree with the assertion that GP was active in any other struggle than 2007 ,2042 and 2046. He seems to be like an assistant to BP mostly.Forget about other books,even book like "Aajako Nepal" written by one of GP's close associate, former NC central Comittee Member Hemraj Adhikari Shashtri, fails to mention any of his roles during 2017-2039.His role was probably comparable to some district level activist of NC at the time.
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| Kid Flex |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 02:53 PM
I have read the comments of both Paschim and Biswo with great interest. I know GPK personally and agree with many of the points raised. However, GPK is not yet a spent force and neither is he an incapable, ineffectual leader. In fact, I would suggest that GP possesses more superior leadership abilities than his late brother BP. The man is hard as a rock and it will be very difficult to dislodge him. At present, the combined forces of the Palace, the army, the splinter group of the NC and various other elements are trying to unseat him in every respect. They will fail miserably. I have seen him operate from very closely and can say this much: his morals and uprightness (bradly speaking) are unassailable. He is no saint and has committed many a blunder, perhaps even dabbled in a bit (a lot) of corruption. But we cannot be objective academic commentators: when the chips are down (as they appear to be presently in the Kingdom) we must choose the better of two evils. I regret that GP has blindly promoted his daughter Sujata. That may be his single biggest mistake but he is no fool. He is keenly aware of the Sujata factor and what people don't realize is that he will sacrifice Sujata if need be. I am awaiting confirmation of that. At the end of the day, rest assured that GP works neither for his family nor his daughter but, believe it or not, for the Nepali farmer and peasant of whom he always had a picture on his desk at Singha Durbar. How do I know this--how do I know where his ultimate loyalt lies? Like I said, I know him very closely.
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| binod |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 05:00 PM
Paschim's take on Girija, for all his sophistication, is but an apologia. Not that Paschim lies about Girija to show him in a good light- just that he conviniently forgets or overlooks things that one otherwise wouldn't. Girija apparently is uncorrupt just because he has but 'two rooms' in Kathmandu. But how about the palaces that his daughter has erected in the meantime ? If one were to use the same yardstick to other public figures in Nepal, no-one in Nepal is corrupt. But I think the crux of the matter is this. Girija Prasad and the whole Koirala family behave as if Nepal was handed over to them as a present by their 'great' brother. So if anyone else is in power, whether from NC or other party, they get into this bandwagon of 'democracy in danger' and bring him down. All of us know that Deuba and gang are no better than Girija Prasad, intellectually and otherwise. But what is enraging is that the Kioralas think that they can order anybody around, just like the Ranas used to do in their heydays. Perhaps, as Paschim implies, History will be kinder to Girija, but to unsophisticated outsiders like us (who have never met or heard him), Girija certainly looks like the one who brought ruin to Nepal. He has been most been in power in the past ten years, been/is the President of the party that has virtually ruled Nepal for the past ten years. If he is not to blame for the precarious state that Nepal is in-- pray tell just where doer the buck stop ?
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 05:39 PM
Very interesting. I should congratulate Biswo and Paschim for their thought-provoking comments. I am not sure about Paschim's claim, though, that GPK is clean. I have heard many NC insiders, some right at the top, say that GPK gets his bhag from people like Khum B, and B. Gachhedar (used to in these cases). In fact, according to this thesis, his clout during elections comes as much from his party presidency, and hence having a final say over who gets the party tickets, as from the money he has amassed over the years. Well, he certainly inspired a lot of public confidence with his simple living in the early days of democracy, but this is also a man whose tastes took a literal, and generous, transformation within the next couple of years once he had greater access to riches and resources. The ever-present brown/green tweed coat, ill-tailored pants, were soon replaced by a host of expensive, imported no doubt, woolen stuffs. The eagle-faced, hollow-cheeked bahun baje become a chillo, chaplo pradhan mantri. Whatever happened to his tiyag and tapashya that kangressis talked about? Where was the substance? It doesn't really matter much that he continues to live in two rooms with his nephew Dr. S. Koirala. Realistically, what more does an 80-year-old widower, who hardly spends any time at home either reading, watching TV, or gardening, need anyway. As for kid flex claims, I find them hard to believe. How do you even assume that people should take the claims seriously when we have seen, over and over and over, that GPK isn't so great after all. Leaders live public life. Little things count: a generous gesture here, a good deed there. While I wouldn't dissmiss GPK's political life as a failure, far from it on the contrary, just as Paschim so coherently argues, but I have watched in horror, and amazement, at what he has done to his proud pro-democratic past. How could a person of such stature squander the goodwill gathered over decades of hardship and high living all so quickly, without so much as a thought to one's legacy? I am sorry if I sound rude, kf, but trust me, I am deeply disappointed with GPK. Since you cliam to know him intimately, I would ask you to make me/us see the brighter side of GPK, which perhaps was more visible to close ones like you. And I ask this as a very honest query. What makes you think that this man will change his ways at 80; yet deliver the goods? Time is running out for him.
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| !!! |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 05:51 PM
By the way, Is split better for the country or worst ? On one could work while NC was in power. Split is better if anyone of them can make government. I feel Mr. Sher has achieved a lot during his period like SAERC, US - defence secratery visit, $ 40 M FROM US AID, curve down Mosist. Improve security. and curve down terrorism.
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 10:26 PM
Biswo wrote: NC central Comittee Member Hemraj Adhikari Shashtri, fails to mention any of his roles during 2017-2039. ------- I've expressed my *opinions* on GPK above based on my own reading and interpretation of Nepal's democratic history. I also read comments by Biswo, VV, KF, and Binod. Thank you, but I wasn't convinced otherwise to not continue to stick to what I wrote. I have tried to cover all facets of GPK - the good, the bad, and the ugly. I do not know any of the Koiralas personally. My interest is to get to the truth based on available facts to appease my own conscience. It's a selfish pursuit. I've written down what I have concluded about GPK. So, no more opinions from my end. But just on the *facts* in response to Biswo's snippet above on what GPK was doing between 2017 and 2039, here's what I know: 2017-2025: 7 years in Bhadragol prison, Kathmandu 2027-2029: Self-exiled in Benares with BP, differences with KPB and Subarna Shumsher on tactics against the Panchayat 2029-2031: Mastermind of the *failed* armed rebellion in Okahaldhunga and elsewhere (on this failure, Krishna Prasad Bhattarai was to write in 1984: bhaagera jaane thaun nabhaye sashatra kraanti safal hundaina - a point Maoists are proving today, in 2002. History is beautiful.) 2034-2036: Return to Nepal (National Reconciliation) and nationwide campaigning on behalf of Bahudal during the Referendum 2037-2039: Nepali Congress ko General Secretary Looks like a midly active resume to me between 2017 and 2039. ------- p.s. I am not dating a Koirala girl :)
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| U_2 |
Posted
on 19-Jun-02 11:44 PM
Nepali congress! Huh. First, they made a mess of this country. Now, they are making mess of their own party. GP is a vilain, no doubt! And Shere, another bad guy.
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| koirala girl |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 12:28 AM
O-e Paschimeli keta, Kay ho yesto 'I-am-not-dating-any-koirala-girl' kura? Were you just fooling around with me all this time? The baby's due on July 5th, FYI. I am not interested in raising her alone. Uhi Eastern, heartbroken koirala KT aka Miss Saigon
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| sks |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 01:53 PM
LOL! koirala girl - whoever u are, u just cracked me up! Thanks a lot for that - I really needed it! I can hardly wait for Paschim's response to u, if he chooses to respond, that is. Knowing him, I suspect there's gonna be at least another posting in this thread!
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| paschhim |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 03:22 PM
Koirala KT, Why are you so confused? it's me not paschim who was fooiling around. I guess that dark evening confused your mind a lot. Leave paschim alone, he is a good man. BTW, I thought baby was due on Fagun sat gate...what the hell happened, baby? Still yours but in deep doubt, Paschhim
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 03:32 PM
Paschim, I don't want to minimize GP's contribution in NC. Yet, even given your info, his resume for 2007-17 remains blank. He went to jail in 2017, and was released relatively earlier.(He famously credited his release to Surya Prasad Upadhyaya who spent only a few months in jail). Re Okhaldhunga movement, the book I mentioned above, gives credit to BP for that. In fact, among 40 dead in Okhaldhunga, most were the revolutionaries led by Captain Yagya Bdr Thapa, and I would give him the credit for leadership.In that book, written by close Girija Confidante,GP's name appears only once. GP was not among 15 persons charged with after the failure of that movement. GP lead some failed attempt. He was charged in Janakpur bombing, Plane hijacking and was probably actively involved in Haripur Police post attack (the attack was instrumental in obstructing the dialogue process between Subarna Shamsher and the King.). In fact, if we can compare those events with today's middle east events, GP's actions were comparable to those of Hamas, not a matter of pride. Again, I am not NC insider, so I have not adequate knowledge about what happened internally. But in my opinion, there were a lot of NC members who worked harder than GP, but GP was rewarded general secreatary-ship. After BP's death, he emerges from shadow, becomes popular among NC activists, and survives all attempt to unseat him from NC leadership.Nobody, not king, not communists, not army, nobody likes him, but if Girija is still there, then it is because he has a solid backing of almost 2/3rd of NC activists. He is a true survivor. In another note, GP seems to have left ,at least, one evidence of corruption in his trail. When he was PM, he was recorded to be arranging a meeting of RNAC executive members in PM's residence, and asked them to expedite the process. Given the involvement of the husband of his daughter in the deal, the action is no doubt a circumstantial evidence of GP's venality.
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| huh |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 04:08 PM
GPK is a courageous leader with a little political wisdom(one of the respected figure in NC told so, I forgot his name now). Anyway I like this sentence.
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| !!!!!!!!! |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 04:13 PM
Koirala is Budha lion without teeth
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 20-Jun-02 09:53 PM
Biswo, you asked what he had done between 2017 and 2039. So, I wrote down what I knew. Now you are asking what did he do between 2007 and 2017. I can write that too, and also give my own interpetation of other events that you cite, but I really don't want to be part of this "trial against GPK". As I wrote up front, I am NOT fond of the man, but it's just that my sense of dislike does not give me the license to devalue facts. But on the failed armed tactics between 2029-2031, including Okhaldhunga whose operational mastermind was GPK (of course through BP's blessings), you might want to speak to Sheshnath Adhikari, from where else but your own hometown of Ratnanagar in Chitwan (he roamed around Nepal carrying explosives sent by GPK circa 2030). I think another Chitwane, Eknath Ranabhat, was also an accomplice. Some of this information appears in yet another Chitwan historian Surya Prasad Adhikari's deeply researched book, "Nepal ko prajatantrik andolan ko itihaas". But let's keep it at this - you know and I know that this kind of talk never ends. Perhaps we'll pick it up over some beer in Sauraha one day, watching my favorite Lalima :) Now, let's move on to the issue of my surprise fatherhood. Priye Koirala KT, are you damn sure that it was me? You know, so many girls have come to me lately begging, "Paschim, please, please, please father my child", that I for one have long lost my faculty to distinguish between my real and fictional pursuits. But if you say so, honey, why not? I'm positively flattered and befuddled. Swasni nalyaera nai bau banna paiyo aaja. That's called "jumping the queue". Let's thank Lord Shiva for small mercies. On a serious note, why is the matrimonial section so barren? In Kathmandu last week, I coaxed Ashu into submitting his info. Perhaps all the lonely bachelors on Sajha might want to coordinate their efforts and submit stuff en-masse. Eklai lekhna laaj laagya ho ki?
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| Biswo |
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on 20-Jun-02 10:35 PM
Paschim, I 've heard about Shesh Nath's claim about carrying explosives circa 2030, but never talked to him about that. May be one day in future. (Some people told me he was just bragging. U know, he is not a popular guy even within NC!) I think I am intrigued by Mr GP. I just want to know why he survives all his enemies, why he is so popular in NC, despite, what I think, his lack of eminence among his contemporary NC leaders. Despite what I wrote , I didn't mean to force my opinion on you. I am actually curious as to find out what makes him successful (personally). If you say he was active, I agree, but I definitely look forward to getting more info on that. May be Mr Adhikari(is he former campus chief of Birendra Multiple Campus, Bharatpur?)'s book will help. I think, despite the split, NC will regain its strength, and most of the activists will go back to Girija faction, probably within five years. Isn't that one more reason enough to know more about him? -- Matrimonial thing sounds interesting.In matrimonial thing, age matters. And I am younger than a lot you guys, so I am waiting result of your search. U know, that photograph of your hunewaali saali is something I am waiting for..
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| question for paschim |
Posted
on 21-Jun-02 02:23 PM
paschim, please compare gp koirala's contributions to nepali democracy with those of ganga lal shrestha and bal krishna shrestha. thanks.
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on 21-Jun-02 02:44 PM
Non of the congressi are leader but still they are leading the country. For me they are childrens in the street. Do what ever thay like.
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| !!! |
Posted
on 21-Jun-02 02:46 PM
Panchas are far better than UML CONGRESS and other. Panchas will win the election. May be Marich Man will win the election
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| ?/? |
Posted
on 21-Jun-02 03:27 PM
Read BBC ka Rabindra Mishra on GP.. http://www.kantipuronline.com/Nepal/rekha.htm
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-Jun-02 04:58 PM
?/?ji, Thanks for forwarding this article. Rabindraji's article is very much insightful and of no-nonsense approach. I think, BP, despite his unwavering fealty to democracy, failed to understand what his real standing was in political strata. His politics was a failed adventure, which was very unfortunate. As for GP, he has accomplished one thing: he made the NC party a stinking stable where any self-respecting democrat couldn't possibly stay for long with dignity.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 21-Jun-02 09:03 PM
Last year, when I had a chance to listen an informal talk between GPK and others in his Quarter (PM), not only me, my friends too were surprised that the so called "Elephant Personality" GPK, does not have real dashing personality when it comes to man-to-man talks. He is "GREAT" only because of being Koirala family. In Nepal, Koirala family are posing as if Rana Family in 1903-2007 saal. They don't have Sri 3, but, in their acts, they are posing like Sri 108 (Sri 108 is sometime referred to God in Heven). Girija is worst leader, and he had proved after his several (?) terms as PM? He is idiot, non-sense, and in history if written outside Nepali Congress (Girija) gang, he will not be given a positive comments. He has become leader because of the very big gap in first generation leadership and 2nd generation leadership. He is not interested in transfering the NC leadership outside Koirala family. Did you read the article on Deshantar/ Bimarsha, written by Subhash... guy, how he creates scenario to bring Girija again in Power. Well, Girija should not dream of being PM one more time. His turn is over. Girija is responsible for all this mess. HG
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| link |
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on 05-Jul-02 10:24 AM
http://kantipuronline.com/Nepal/Nepalmag.htm/sambandhharu/ July1,2002
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