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   First a rough translation from the link 24-Jun-02 Biswo
     Biswo, have you read BP's biography wher 25-Jun-02 ?
       >I think the trend started long before 2 25-Jun-02 Biswo
         On the other hand, perhaps all our major 25-Jun-02 villageVoice
           With all due respect to Yuba Raj-ji (YRG 26-Jun-02 ashu
             Do not be sick and tired so soon. What d 26-Jun-02 Not Funny
               Ashu, you have a point there. That is, I 26-Jun-02 villageVoice
                 I think YRG probably would have publishe 26-Jun-02 Biswo
                   He was Chakra Prasad Bastola, I heard. 26-Jun-02 HahooGuru
                     Guruji, Thanks for the info, but how 26-Jun-02 Biswo
                       Hahoo dai has said Chakra because he is 26-Jun-02 jhor
                         Hahoo dai is such a BAISED person in thi 26-Jun-02 sourPickle


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Biswo Posted on 24-Jun-02 10:19 PM

First a rough translation from the link given below:

" In one dinner , an 'important' leader of Nepali Congress complained with the
ambassador of India, "His excellency, you are not doing your job." The leader
then added,"You should be GUIDING us." The ambassador felt uneasy.."

See an article by Yuvaraj Ghimire in "Nepal" (in the following link). I wish he had
given the name of that leader too.


http://www.kantipuronline.com/Nepal/Sandarva.htm
? Posted on 25-Jun-02 02:09 PM

Biswo, have you read BP's biography where he repeatedly mentioned how Indian Embassdor interfered in neapli internal affairs. I think the trend started long before 2007 when British was ruling India and Ranas were ready to do any thing to please them. I think BP tolerated this to some extent before he really got mad at one of embassdors. The last straw was when the embassdor demanded that he be informed about the internal affairs on a regular basi( I forgot the exact incident). what I am trying to emohasize is that Indian embassdors have always played that "bishesh" role in nepali politics, which sometimes become ridiculously apparant. I am not surprised and I think there are many nepali leaders who overtly or covertly prefer to be"guided" by Indian embassdors.

aajalai yetti
prashna- chinha
Biswo Posted on 25-Jun-02 05:06 PM

>I think the trend started long before 2007 when British was ruling India and
>Ranas were ready to do any thing to please them.

And I thought the trend was over by now.

?ji, there is no question some leaders feel the fountain of power of Nepal lies in
Delhi. If only Nepalese people knew who frequent and stoop to ambassadors of
New Delhi, they could show these people where the power really lies. I am sick
and tired of 'these' Congressi leaders, and I really hope that NC leadership will
be careful about 'such' leaders.
villageVoice Posted on 25-Jun-02 10:19 PM

On the other hand, perhaps all our major leaders are paralyzed by the thought that their political future will be in tatters the moment India brands them "anti-Indian."
ashu Posted on 26-Jun-02 12:42 AM

With all due respect to Yuba Raj-ji (YRG), I, as a reader, do NOT believe his assertion that some leader actually said that.

Why?

If someone had indeed said it, what's stopping YRG from publishing the name of that leader? What's he afraid of? He is a journalist, isn't he?

After all, the public has a right to know what their elected
leaders say to others, especially on matters of governance and
all that.

If the whole dinner and the accompanying guff-suff was OFF-THE-RECORD in the first place (a more likely scanario!), then YRG seems to violate the basic tenet of journalism in that you do NOT cite off-the-record stuff for PUBLIC consumption.
You can do that, yes; but your professional credibility takes a big blow.

Either way, as a well-wisher of YRG, I am more worried about YRG's slipping journalistic standards than about who said what to whom in a dinner party.

What's your take on this, Sally and Village Voice?

oohi
NOT a journalist himself
ashu
ktm,nepal
Not Funny Posted on 26-Jun-02 04:41 AM

Do not be sick and tired so soon. What do you think King Gyanedra is doing in India? Why was he closeted with Bajpai for 45 minutes? Come on, both Deupa and Gyanedra prefer Kali of Kolakatta to our own Dakshinkali. That itself should show you where the power lies.
villageVoice Posted on 26-Jun-02 09:40 AM

Ashu, you have a point there. That is, IF this guff-suff was actually off-the-recrod stuff. But if no one insisted - as is very likely the case, given our gaffe-prone politicians - on that point, Y. Dai, or any other journalist present there, has all the right in the world to go ahead and publish the story.

Journalists do enjoy a huge license in their treatment of facts, and speculations, when it comes to public figures. Not so with private individuals, though.

I would have personally named the guy in question, though. As a columnist, there's no point in making a half-hearted statement, and keeping the readers guessing.
Biswo Posted on 26-Jun-02 01:04 PM

I think YRG probably would have published that incident with the name of the leader if
one of Kantipur Publication Reporters have reported that. But he personally didn't want
to take risk of 'breaching' the 'confidence'-which in my opinion was not there.

Who could be that 'important' leader? Must be an upstart immature leader who got
too excited at the 'chance' to talk with 'bigwigs' that his puerile excitement stole his
judgement, and made him commit that gaffe. (Btw, what surprises me is when even
top bureaucrats do this. Aren't they supposed to be more restrained, more educated
and more mature?)
HahooGuru Posted on 26-Jun-02 06:17 PM

He was Chakra Prasad Bastola, I heard.
Biswo Posted on 26-Jun-02 08:25 PM

Guruji,

Thanks for the info, but how credible do you think your source is? I think it is very
serious matter, at least in the way it questions the leader's general intelligence. I
didn't expect Mr Bastola to be that leader, frankly.
jhor Posted on 26-Jun-02 08:40 PM

Hahoo dai has said Chakra because he is a rival of Deuba and this Hahoo dai is very pro-Deuba and biased. Doing Hahoo?
sourPickle Posted on 26-Jun-02 09:13 PM

Hahoo dai is such a BAISED person in this forum that it would not be unfair if it is said that he is getting some BHATTA (or Dakshina) from Deuba leaded Royal Nepali Congress.