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| Christian |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 09:37 AM
In my point of view, Hindu Religion is Dirty, Corrupted, Foolish and very backward.
What do think?
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| Lucifer |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 09:42 AM
Just like Christianity, Islam and Judaism are. No more, no less.
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| Hindu |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 09:45 AM
Christian,
Looks like you have been molested by your Prist a lot. Now, it is affecting your brain.
What's up foolish?? Is your ASS eching????
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| Christian |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:01 AM
What do you know about Religion?
It seems like you are jumping without notice there is a big black hole.
Basic Theory of Religion is:
(1) Don't harm, hurt, and kill other.
(2) Respect and Love other.
(3) Don't do any bad activities.
(4) Give right, freedom, justice and equality.
(5) Share good and bad situation with other.
(6) Help other.
(7) Don't cheat, be honest.
(8) God must be only one and one for all people.
In truth and real Hindu society and activities, you don't see implementation of basic theory Religion. Most of the time, we can find 100% opposite activities form the Religion. Seriously, there is no Pure or clean Religion countries like Nepal and India. If there is no pure or clean activities or action, there will no democracy and religion, too.
Hint: In deep study and research, Hindu Religion even doesn't have implementation of basic theory of religion. Hindu is only poor social and cultural practices which poor people carried out from generation to generation.
Chritian religion the best religion.
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| Courvoisier |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:08 AM
christian,
why are you here? why told you take your theories and tell it someone who'll CARE. (rolls eyes). looser
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| Riva |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:19 AM
Christian,
Why is religion so important to you? Why do you have to keep talking bad about other religions?
YOu brainwashed peice of shit. You know what I think of you, you are nothing but weak person who has just been brainwashed by some narrow minded christian. Poeple like you make wars because all you are trying to do is put down other people's religion.
Has any of you Christians seen God???????????? No you haven't so stop talking about it. Jesus is dead!!!
People like you encourage hate.
Why is your religion so narrow minded, why on earth do you think that your reliogion is superior and why the f_ck do you think all the rest will go to hell.
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:21 AM
Christian religion is the most hypocritical religion I know. What ever sin you commit once you sleep with the priest then every sin will be washed out. Now we are beginning to see the big forgery the Christian religion really is.
It has been estimated that upto 60% of the priests are gay. Of the remaining 40% some exploit the poor nuns :-) and others are pedophiles. If Christianiasm is such a great religion or even a tolerable religion then how come only the socially inadept are in its ranks.
Let's admit it! Christian while being a latest offshoot in the name of religion has prooved to be an aberation and has more ancient concepts than sanatan dharma. Christianism is the vehicle of western domination.
The Christians have very few festivals. Even Christmas is not a festival of Christians. It is not mentioned in their bible book. They have been able to expand their numbers by converting millions of African tribes people through severe exploitation. They are not interested in the upliftment of people of other tribes but just make more and more christians. Its like a factory out their. lol
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| also a christian |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:22 AM
Christians who impress the most are not those who insult other religions, but those who do good works and practice what Jesus preached and let people make up their own minds as to which religion is kindest. Remember, "Christian," let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Fist remove the block from your own eye then remove the cinder from the other's eye. So please stop insulting Hindus and make your point by leading a good kind life.
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| Hindu |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:29 AM
Christian,
You asked " What do you know about Religion?"
-Let me tell you just one thing, MY RELIGION NEVER TAUGHT ME NOT TO CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND CONVERT PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEIR SITUATION.
What deep study and research you are talking about re: Hindu religion? You r such a dumb and foolish human. I feel sorry foy you. You are making other Christian people Shame....
Why don't you leave this forum and go suck your priest's D.I.C.K...Does he make you chant" Christian religion the best religion" while he plays with you??
YOU LOOSER...
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| Hindu |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 10:34 AM
I meant to say MY RELIGION NEVER TAUGHT ME TO CRITICIZE.....instead of MY RELIGION NEVER TAUGHT ME NOT TO CRITICIZE......
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| Western Religious women |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:18 AM
Why Hindu Religion is an evil worship and corrupted social and cultural practices?
(1) Danger Tool for corruption:
Pundits (Priest) do not cultivate land or farming anything. He just read old conservative philosophy and does daily practices based on Hindu book. He goes to poor and desperate framers home and asks for pray to good for good health and wealth. Then, Priest asks farmer to give healthy cow, bulls, gold, money, textiles and food to donate him (priest) as a god's will or make happy to god. And poor farmer do whatever priest asked for. Farmer and his condition had already poor but these activities make him the poorest.
(2) Evil, unethical and Dirty theory: In Hindu, religion you have to do sacrifice to different animal to different gods and goodness. There is no animal right. There is no civilization. You have to pray to "Shiva Ling". Shiva means (God of creator and destroyer) and Ling means " male sexual organ ". This is not ethical practice. In holy festival Thij, all women have to go to Pashupati and will pray in Indian's Jogies and yogi's pennies with flowers and tika to ask them blessing. KamaSutra "Sexual Intercourse Book" is also an example dirty side of Hindu Religion. Most of the Hindu temple sketched and carved with dirty and sexual actions and images. These are the example of expression of Hindu Religion.
(3) Unrealistic Religion: In Hindu holy books, written in what yogis or priests thought that is god or goodness in stone's age. If you read Hindu holy book, you can find all kind of flying, killing, fighting, kidnapping, Rapping, looting etc. All Kings, Queen, Prince and princess are named as a god and goddess.
(4) Creation of corrupted Social and culture:
In Hindu religion culture, Farmer must do only cultivate land and only do farming. Farmer must not go to school and read book, and must not learn read and write. So the truth is that if farmer and lower poor people go to school and learn read and write means, Priest will loose income. Example: Saathi pratha (widow must burn herself with death husband), Girl must marry with "Bel Tree" before marry with man, woman must stay in dark room in 30 day if she had means.
(5) Created social class division and slavery:
Hindu religion creates class division in Nepalese society like (1)Kami, (2)damai, (3)pode (4) Jyapu (3)chhetri, (4)bahun. Kami is a lower caste of people who does metal works and consider non-touchable. Damai is a lower caste of people who does tailoring clothes and consider non-touchable. Pode is a lower caste of people who does butchering animal. Pode is a lower caste people who are farmers. Chhetri is a middle caste of people who serves as solider, guard etc. Bahun is upper caste of people those who think they are superior themselves, and these are people who use this corrupted tool " Hindu Religion ".
(6) No democratic, No human/ animal right, No equality, No justice:
In Hindu religion, women must not go to school. If she goes to school, she will be witch. Women only do serve as a housewife. Man and women are not equal right. Whatever Hindu holy book said is truth and right, beyond that is not right, that will be evil or bad. Discourage for scientific or modern development. There is no democratic right, equality and justice.
(7) Nonsense Religion practice:
In Hindu Religion, Only priest or his family can read holy book. Propaganda, " If other cast or other people read book, they will be sick or happen bad for them." So other people or must of the Indian or Nepalese people who are belief Hindu religion they do not know about actual Hindu religion. They never ever see the holy book or read the holy book. This is 100% true. This is nonsense religion practice. In Christian religion, everybody read bible, even they distribute free books and encourage them to read and talk about bible in church.
(8) Blind, conservative and backward education practice:
Most of the Hindu people do not know about fact about Hindu religion and what is all about. Hindu people just follow what priest say to them. You can find a lots of fairy tales. Nobody read the holy books and understood the facts about religion. This is just Blind religion. This is very conservative religion that you can't touch holy book because you are not belong to that cast or person. Hindu religion concept is very dominating and ruling to society. So priest can control to other people in society in the named of religion and God. This is totally and pure no democratic religion and cultural practice.
Conclusion: Hindu religion's based on pure no democratic, unrealistic, unethical, conservative, corrupted religion, corrupted social and culture practices. So we can obviously whoever practice Hindu religion that people, society or country are backward. That's way western people or western countries developed faster and faster. And Hindu people proud to go to western country and serve and die there. Hindu people think western country is heaven and land of opportunity. Think and understand why western are good and why Hindu are the worst?
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| reply to 99698197 |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:29 AM
To Western Religious women,
Please visit
http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=125&ThreadID=5577#28773
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| Riva |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:30 AM
Western Religious Women,
I have never hated anybody in my whole life untill I came to this country and met Christians like youi. YOu encourage hate.
Religion has nothing to do with Development. Most of the Americans I have met are not Christians, they dont care about religion thats why they are developed.
You must be one one of those newly brainwashed Christians... hahhhaaa you weak peice of shit just look at you, its funny to see people like you go blah blaha blah
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| Real Hindu Religion |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:39 AM
This is the best Hindu Religion web site I ever never get before:
Real side or truth of Hindu Religion. Go to this side.
http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/nektar/kma/main.htm
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:43 AM
"Dirty Corrupted Evil Holy" and "Western Religious women" is the one and the same person. This "person?" has posted exactly the same looong propaganda message in two of the currently running threads here.
S/he/it is just cluttering the sajha board here with her "suga ratai".lol
Not only that but that person has also occupied database space of the sajha.com website costing them money.
Thank you "reply to 99698197" for pointing out this lazy propagandist.
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| ar.harvard.edu |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 11:44 AM
ID: 97874939, please quit your child's play and brush up your English for christ sake. Your writings have been worse than my 6th grade bihari teacher. Also, quit fooling around with nicknames, you don't have give us the false pretense of other people supporting you. We're not stupid as you think or are.
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| to each his own |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:01 PM
this tired old thread again? better suited to soc.culture.nepal
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| sally |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:04 PM
Countries in which to test the theory that Christianity can be automatically correlated with faster development and a more "heavenly" life:
Sierra Leone, Rwanda, the Congo, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola, Ethiopia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Peru, and Colombia.
All Christian majority countries.
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| Asiantric |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:06 PM
VED=Knowledge.
Hindusm is not a religion it's a philosophy.
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:24 PM
Sally is a
| Parakhi |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:24 PM
Western Religious Woman, Thanks for pointing out the social defects.
It's true that we need some reforms in the social setting. But to blame religion for everythign is not a right way. I can suggest so many examples where Churches or Madarsas are involved heavily in politics and so many things........................ Corruptions, ill-governance and other defects are personal and/or political issues.
I am Hindu personally. But I never hated other religion. What I have been taught is to respects other people's choice of their own way. Ultimately the god is one... whether you name it as Ram, Krishna, Christ, Buddha, Mohamad or anything.
In the pre-historic time, people lived in tribes or isolated groups. They saw the world differently based on their own imagination. You know the story of six blind persons feeling different parts of an elephant and coming to different conclusion about it? That same thing happened. They tried to explain the natural phenomenon with their own imaginations and different stories involved about god. The culture was carried by these people and later termed as religion in modern era. So why the fuzz about? Is there not the same god who created living beings? When people moved from one place to another in the later centuries, so did the cultural practice and religion too.
Before pointing fingers to others, one has to see own face in the mirror. Are there not any war in the Christian countries? Have not Roman Catholic and Protestants been involved so many hatred wars and politics..... They are both Christians, right?
I admit there were some abnormalities in the system to treat people differently. Caste system in Nepal was started in Ansubarma or some Lichhabi king's time - a history known to all. Initially, castes were given to represent the profession however, it followed dirty division of people. Clean and intellectual job holders became high class and dirty and physical workers low class. Is there not so obvious but prevalent discrimination still existing in the west?
Later there were so many books added in the name of religion. Some were very good story teller. But the inter-connection of stories throughout the old books are astounding. Stories of all Krishnacharitra, Ramayan, Mahabharat match. Purans are some sort of story books.
Beda's are the original books of Hindu religion. Since education was limited in the ancient time, those books remained out of access for majority of population. In the transition period, sanskrit lost its charm.
There are so much to learn from ancient hindu books for example:
Rigaveda - All about science and technology - medical, aviation and others
Yajurveda - Millitary science
Samaveda - Political science, country management
Atharwaveda - Economics, bussiness and commerce
Mentioned in these books are some of the outstanding achievements:
Charak - Allopathic medicine
Dhanwantari - Homeopathic medicine
Aswini Kumars - Surgeons (they are two brothers)
They used to have surgery and organ transplantation in that age. (It's hard to belive though, as it has taken so long for advanced people as of today). There were bimans (e.g. puspak biman of Kuber) [By the way kuber was the richest man of that time and only he could afford that plane]; rathas (horse drawn chariots - normal thing); and telecasting [see the sophistication - mahabharat war was telecasted by sanjaya to Dhritarastra in his palace]. The advance of Atlantis is still unknown and today's scientists belive in the possibility of much advanced society in Atlantis. The wonders of ancient worlds... still questions with today's scientists. How advanced they were? Though there could be some story telling and something true.
I don't fully endorse to believe in this stories, yet we had glorious past, some termoil at present and a bright future. We don't need to push some religion down to show we have the best religion on earth..... Heck! that mentality is the sign of worst religion.... As I said, religion followed people's established cultutural and social setting and their outlook about world... not religion was born before people were here..
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:28 PM
salley is a lazy propagandist
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| sally |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:32 PM
What in the heck are you talking about?????????
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| sally |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:42 PM
OK, I think I've figured out the bizarre comment of Mr. Brilliant (who, for the record, should not bother to apply with the CIA or FBI, since his analytical skills are seriously lacking).
Translation of my posting (for Chandrasurya's benefit):
Sierra Leone, etc, suck. (You understand that word, right?) Therefore if Sierra Leone is a Christian majority country, and Sierra Leone sucks, then Christianity does not automatically produce a non-sucky country.
Got it?
Sheesh. I think I need to post with footnotes for the Logic and Humor Impaired.
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:46 PM
Sorry a satire ,took a second look to sink into my head.
Seeing your previous messages and postings I apologize for my hasty & wrong conclusion.
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| chandrasurya |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:49 PM
I had written a long apologetic letter but it didn't show up. :-( Only the last sentences did. If I could delete my earlier silly remark then I would.
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| Parakhi |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:53 PM
I could not help laughing when the poster was trying to relate kamasutra as part of hindu religion. Some explanation about it:
1. Kamasutra was writen by employed poet and sex-psychologist in one of the Indian palace several hundred years ago.... thousands years.
2. Kamasutra was written to suggest remedies of impotence and other sexual defects in men and women.
3. Kamasutra is not a rotten-porno-book but an asset to the people. It depends how you use (for good) or misuse (just to arouse your sexual feeling in bad time) it.
Why those temples have naked figures and kamasutra like images?
1. Well, it was a whim to teach people about that aspect of life. Since everything was closed by cultural things, how people could understand that aspect? The easy way put them in temples and other places where people can see it and understand it, same time not arousing their unnecessary sexual urge.
2. It was part of effort to save hindu temples from evading muslims (I read it somewhere in detail but can't give the full account here, I forgot).
See commentary by Radio Netherlands: http://www.rnw.nl/special/en/html/kamasutra020114.html
See a full text translation by Sir Richard Burton:
http://www.gnreddy.com/indianlit/kamasutra.pdf
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| Koko |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:58 PM
Mr Christian,
Don't even Fking think that christianity is all that. You tell me what is christianity is all about ? Are you a fking born again ? Cause you definately do not sound like you were born as a Christian but a convert which means others tried to fk with your mind and you caved in. So I would put you in the catagory of the BORN AGAINS..A follower( like a dog following its master).
What do christian have in terms of logic and reasoning ? None... How did Jesus turn water into wine ?" Duhhhh!! dunno its a miracle as the bible says." Yeah bible say eat shit too and you will do it blindly. You're probably going to bring up the faith issue next. What is faith ? Its a blindfold to fool people like you who take word for word from the Bible Literally.
What about the Crusade ? THink that was fair ? What your people did to the people that lived in Jarusalem(Jesus's very own people) ? Don't forget Jesus Christ(your supreme being) is Jewish.
We also have to thank Christianity for the dark ages too. Thanks to them our whole human civilization was on a standstill for 200years. They did everything in their power to retain controll over every state and country.
Forget that Lets switch to present What is happening in the Catholic church at the moment. All those men of cloth being charged with sexual abuse... what about that(that was also in the name of god ) ?
This christian fella need to look at himself before he starts talking shit about others.
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| Koko |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 12:58 PM
Mr Christian,
Don't even Fking think that christianity is all that. You tell me what is christianity is all about ? Are you a fking born again ? Cause you definately do not sound like you were born as a Christian but a convert which means others tried to fk with your mind and you caved in. So I would put you in the catagory of the BORN AGAINS..A follower( like a dog following its master).
What do christian have in terms of logic and reasoning ? None... How did Jesus turn water into wine ?" Duhhhh!! dunno its a miracle as the bible says." Yeah bible say eat shit too and you will do it blindly. You're probably going to bring up the faith issue next. What is faith ? Its a blindfold to fool people like you who take word for word from the Bible Literally.
What about the Crusade ? THink that was fair ? What your people did to the people that lived in Jarusalem(Jesus's very own people) ? Don't forget Jesus Christ(your supreme being) is Jewish.
We also have to thank Christianity for the dark ages too. Thanks to them our whole human civilization was on a standstill for 200years. They did everything in their power to retain controll over every state and country.
Forget that Lets switch to present What is happening in the Catholic church at the moment. All those men of cloth being charged with sexual abuse... what about that(that was also in the name of god ) ?
This christian fella need to look at himself before he starts talking shit about others.
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| sally |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 01:08 PM
Chandrasurya,
No problem.
Wonder if ID #99999 (or whatever that was) will also have the good grace to apologize to anyone offended by those prejudiced comments, or if we'll have to wait till he or she gets back from a field trip to fun-filled Sierra Leone.
Btw, just as Hinduism as a whole shouldn't be blamed for the shortcomings of nations such as Nepal and India, I don't think it's right to blame Christianity as a whole for the failure of dismal governments, sick priests, and the unjust actions of people hundreds of years ago.
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| Are you good christian |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 04:30 PM
Is sally good christian?
what's a joke..... Go to hell..... look at around the world how christian religion show their real religion...
Maha Hindu
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| Oxford |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 04:54 PM
Who are you thinking "Mr. Harvard"?
I don't know that whoever writes above comments about "Hindu Religion." That's good enough to understand about Hindu religion. I agree with her. Yes, it is fact and true. Truth is the truth, and false is the false. Be real......
I believe that we did not go to school to learn to hide truth? Do we? I trust that you are not from the street. You must be a good man but...........
Why do you want to run from truth? Why do you want to ignore false and hide truth?
If you are from Harvard, you must talk and act as a Mr. Harvard.
“Hindu religion has more bad side than its good side. Obviously, it is true.”
Wake up bro..... Shake up your head.....
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| hilarious |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 05:04 PM
Heh, Sally is a Christian? Yet, she was bragging about her grey-eyed Pandit grandpa a while ago...*Sigh*. If you're so proud of being a Christian, why do you need to mention your 100% pure, grey-eyed Pandit hajurbau???
Caste system can never go away from the Indian subcontinent,even if a person converts to a different religion. Ever heard of Christian Brahmins in India.. I know... I was like WTF?
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| bhenda |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 05:07 PM
Hilarious,
what do you mean, read before you speak or understand before you speak. Sally is not a Christian.
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| hilarious |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 05:17 PM
Uh, there's nothing to understand. Why did she choose a Christian name in the first place? And why is she defending Christianity (somewhat)? Sure, I did understand the Sierra Leone analogy...
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| Religious Judge |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 05:44 PM
Hindu Religion is bad for Nepalese society, culture, politics and education.
Nepal has many problems but one of the main problems is our Hindu Religion and its bad implementation in our society. This Hindu Religion teaches bad conservative activities and teaches bad knowledge.
You believe in Hindu god and Religion, and truly learn what Hindu Religion said. You blindly follow the holy book and its religion.
Look at Muslim religion and culture. There is the deep problem in their Religion, and now they can not remove or make correction, simply because it is holy book and their religion.
Do you want to do samething as muslim do? Or, do you want better?
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| Riva |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 05:48 PM
Hilarious,
why don't you read the whole thread then you will understand. God these people are so dumb, Sally is not a christina name for heavens sake.
Pls try to read again to understand what Sally is trying to say.
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| Jojo |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:19 PM
Mr Koko,
Let us go by the facts here and not by emotions....
Everyone knows the fact that a Hindu country does not have any chances of coming out of the poverty until people stop following that religions.... everyone knows that Hinduism cannot survive in a modern day society .... things were different in the medieval ages ...Hinduism is not for a modern society ...hinduism is suited or created for a primitive lifestyle ...
I am not saying Christianity brings prosperity ..... but somehow the facts do speak a little louder .... unless we all decide to remain morons ...and live in poverty ....
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:23 PM
First of all .... if you are the one from Nepal chat: PLEASE LOG OFF :)
Secondly:
1) Shiva Jee: Thank for the prasad (if you know what I mean)
2) Krishna Jee: Thanks for being a role model. Your mojo inspires me to ask gals out for coffee.
And thank you hinduism for not forcing us into any ceremony, no Sunday chants, no 5 nawaj a day ........ and I do speak for all the lazy souls I THUNK.
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:24 PM
The "LOG OFF" Part was for RIVA
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| Riva |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:27 PM
Junkie,
I am not from Nepal chat so you log off you gajedi.
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| Riva |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:29 PM
JOJo,
first of all I dont think KOko is a guy.
and so you think changing religion will solve our problem in Nepal ha??? Nepal is backward and poor because of Morons like you.
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| Jojo |
Posted
on 11-Jul-02 07:43 PM
Miss Riva,
Whats your point ..?? I am struggling to understand your basic principle .... if at all u have one ...
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| Rajib Sharma |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 02:33 AM
In reply to “Western Religioun Women”, Part _I
I just amazed to see such stupid and blocked person still exit in US. Lady just wake up and smell the coffee, Christianity is right now a decaying religion and sinking. The growth of Hinduism and Buddhism in the West is spreading like wild fire. Specially, after most degrading sex scandal of the Catholic priests make the thing more worse. The practicing animal sexual behavior as you see of the Christian priest who reads Bible every day can engage such dis-speakble sexual molestation of innocent altar boys in the name of Jesus Christ. You all Christian should be ashamed of such heinous crime. It did not surprise me because the Christians does not have any self discipline mechanism to control one’s animal behavior. The Christian priests indulge a Five Star like life style where as Hindu and Buddhist monks go through rigorous physical depravation in order to reach higher spirituals wisdom. Hinduism and Buddhism that is why practice Meditation and yoga.
It is good to know that the educated intellectual elites of the West discarded Christianity completely and embraced Hinduism and Buddhism. The educated western intellectuals when compares fairy unrealistic laughable stories of bible with Bhagawat Gita they understand immediately the difference, the standard of spiritual intellectuality. On April 23rd 2001, The Times Magazine front page cover celebrated YOGA, the ancient Hindu spiritual discipline of mind and body, it titles the “Science of YOGA”. The article also analyzes the scientific effect of performing YOGA by describing human anatomy to justify how Hindus were way advanced since ancient time. The article also tells that 25 – 30 millions American Christians discarded Christianity and embraced Hinduism the YOGA and Meditative way of Hindu life. These new Western Hindus practice yoga and meditation in their daily life and they thanked ancient India for giving them such a wonderful gift.
Problem with Christianity is many myths. Nothing practical. The myth of Jesus Christ a son of virgin woman can only be accepted by stupid Christians, no sane person will accept such lies. According to the biblical facts, there are fifty different version of bible and the stupid Christians call it word of god, how can the word of god can be changed so many times. Just think about it. The top Western philosopher Joseph Cambell put Hinduism and Buddhism far a head of Christianity.In order to give few examples to declare the greatness of Hinduism. A Hindu would never believe that a person’s own SIN can be washed away by chanting the name of Jesus Christ or going to the church and asking those sexually perverted priests for forgiveness in admitting in his or her sins. This is such a ridiculous load of crap that even a little child would laugh to find out it’s sheer stupidity. Here comes the Hindu’s doctrine of “KARMA” which tells one’s individual action wholly depends on his/her deeds or KARMA, his tendencies or desires are responsible for his her own sins. If a person serve selflessly to cause of humanity, animals, planets or any living creature can be considered as GOOD KARMA which itself only can purify one’s individual sin.
see in Part -II
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| Rajib Sharma |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 02:35 AM
Contin............PART -II
In Reply of : “Western Religioun Women"
The great epic of Ramayana and Mahabharata which written on Vedic philosophies discussed elaborately the human behavior, his relation to parents, brother, sister, friends and natures etc., and his relation to God. This is considered by the many Western intellectuals as the greatest ever written religious /intelactuall/phyloshpical guidance of human race.
In comparison, the Old Testament which doctrine million killings and espoused hatred and the modified New Testament is nothing but Jokes, a real laughable stock. What a contradiction. In old testaments the barbarity and intolerance as documented, is second to none. Even though many of the Christians biblical texts are straight copy from Judaism, which shows it’s pathetic lack of originality, unlike Ramayana and Mahabharat. The modified version of new testament is worked up ,feel good version, which was modified tirelessly from barbaric old testament , in comparison with Hindu and Buddhist’s texts, it can be considered as Fourth grade standard. Hinduism which also known as Sanatan Dharm is based on Vedas and Upanisads. A pure joyful documentation of the compilations of thousand years of advancement of spiritual wisdom of ancient India by many Sages and Rishi Munis in search of eternal truth to attain NIRVANA.(How a person experience ultimate assimilation with the universal Force of our creator, which is GOD).
Hinduism is enriched thorough centuries by many enlightened man and a woman. These flesh and blood men and women walked on the sacred soil of mother India. And we Hindus are eternally blessed for that. This is one of the reason why the Western intlectuals when find the ultimate spiritual truth in Hinduism and Buddhism ,disgusted on their own Christian beliefs, discarded Christianity en-mess. Every year thousands of such truth seekers came to India in search of their spiritual Nirvana.
The main diseases of Christianity of too many sexual scandals of the priests, propagation of lies and deceit by the Christian to convert innocent poor people through out the world. Christianity will never survive with out force conversion of the poor and innocent people. In contrast when westerners wants to convert to Hinduism the Hindus would tell them to be a “good Christian”. They told them not to convert. I want to read an European lady’s letter that was published in the Current “Hinduism Today”(July to Sept, 2002).She was begging to convert to Hinduism but as the Hindus told them not to convert, She was very upset and published this letter to the magazine.
Before writing such hateful thing about the most advanced religion of India, just look at any Christian society of Today. The Christian society in USA or Britain where the influence of Christianity is second to none, what a mess it has created. 70 % teen-age girls are pregnant either by their boy friends or by their brother or step-fathers. San Francisco, the capital of the homosexuals and animal sex. All types of sexual activities rae rampant that even the animal kingdom will shy away from such behavior, at least in a pack of lions and Tigers they know who is their father? But I don’t think many westerners would be able to vouch for it. These animal religious practices eating up the whole western Christian society. Beside that most heinous crime against humanity is done by Christians, the holocaust of the Jews by the nazi Germany which remains a big black hole in the history of Man kind. Hitler was a greatest worshiper of Jesus Christ and he learned his lessons of barbarity from holy book of bible.
Every Westerner, especially, Americans should be grateful to Hindus and India. The non-violence preaching of Gandhiji taught the Black Civil right leader Martin Luther King to accept tolerance which calm the Black community to seeking any reappraisal for slavery.
The good healthy eating habit of vegetarianism also a gift by the Hindus. And now we are allowing 40 millions clueless Christians to accept Hindu way of YOGA and Mediation. That is why I am telling you Lady wake up and smell the coffee.
Namaste!!
Rajib Sharma
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| sally |
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on 12-Jul-02 08:42 AM
Re: "why is she defending Christianity (somewhat)?"
I reserve the right to defend Christianity (somewhat), Hinduism (somewhat), Judaism (somewhat), Buddhism (somewhat), Islam (somewhat), Wicca (somewhat), Rastafarianism (somewhat) and various modern religions such as Communism (somewhat), Capitalism (somewhat), and so on. The world isn't black and white. It's also full of the color Somewhat.
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| chandrasurya |
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on 12-Jul-02 09:30 AM
Sally,
I am confused by your christian sounding name. As you know first impression is the last impression. ofcourse you must have have some far advanced concept and explanation to quell our misunderstanding, the un-knowing.
You cannot claim to believe in all the concepts there are. You cannot be little bit muslim thinker and little bit christian thinker etc.. As it is, even to understand any one belief is an immense task in itself. We must select our way and then move on that path. You must already know what happens to A person trying to ride two boats at the same time.
It is not a simple task to know the sanatan dharma and then be able to live it. It requires years of careful study and devotion. Even more dedication is needed to be able to advise others on the path they should choose.
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| Lucifer |
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on 12-Jul-02 09:31 AM
No religion is flawless and we should not condemn a whole religion for some of its flaws. This debate started off on a rather stupid note, based on a stupid posting by someone who appears to suffer from a severe lack of common sense and general knowledge. As the events of Sept 11th have shown ( ahem ahem ... I am sounding an Amrican Senator, eh?) there should be no room for religous zealots in the world if we are to strive for global harmony and peace. Those who condemn an entire religion and all its followers are no different from Bin Laden and should be "hunted down" ( now its like Bush) the same way and "brought to justice". Dont "misunderestimate" the power of common sense and religious tolerance in the world - make no mistake fanatics like those we see on this forum will get nowhere with thier utter-gutter nonsense. The world has had enough of the likes of Bin Laden and "Christian" and its time for them to learn to live and let live or else seek therapy.
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| Suna |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 09:45 AM
Chandrasurya
the debate is not about names/nicks so let sally be sally and be chandrasurya if you want to. This scenario is a bit different, sally could be he a he/she and a bahun/kami/newar. Therefore, with no lastname (surname) there is not debate about that. Did you consider that sally may/may not be a nepali (which is also not of importance to this thread)
Why can't one be a little of everything?? I don't believe in any religion created in order to have control over society. For example, catholic churches used to do that years ago. Now, catholics - that was just an example. Hindu religion does that too - the more money you have, the more puja aja you can do and prepare yourself for your next janma. Wonder what the poor people do! Islam promotes male domination or so the US media says.
One can always support a little of everything.
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| sally |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 09:47 AM
I didn't say that I "believe in all the concepts there are" or that I personally am "a little bit Muslim thinker, little bit christian thinker etc." I said that every religion has some defensible, worthy aspects and (as Lucifer said) can't be condemned wholesale.
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| sally |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 10:24 AM
Hi Suna (the reply above was to Chandrasurya):
The thing about Islam being about male domination is pretty funny if you think about Islamic history. Mohammed's wife was a rich businesswoman who was something like 20 years his senior. So Muslim women, if they really are able to read the Koran and interpret for themselves, might come up with pretty different conclusions about whether they should live in purdah!
I don't actually think religions were created to have control over people, since their founders (when they have founders) tend to be people who were opposing the status quo of their own times. But I agree that all religions (and all political philosophies) have been manipulated by those in powers to create and maintain control. Any religion is a new philosophy; hence, it's automatically radical. But it gets co-opted and controlled pretty soon.
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| MOMO |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 10:52 AM
Guys and Gals,
Wake up, smell the coffee and chill. Enjoy life while it last and if possible make it last forever.
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| Koko |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 11:06 AM
"I am confused by your christian sounding name. As you know first impression is the last impression. ofcourse you must have have some far advanced concept and explanation to quell our misunderstanding, the un-knowing."
Man you have way too much time in your hands to make such a great deal about a simple thing A NAME.
"You cannot claim to believe in all the concepts there are. You cannot be little bit muslim thinker and little bit christian thinker etc.. As it is, even to understand any one belief is an immense task in itself. We must select our way and then move on that path. You must already know what happens to A person trying to ride two boats at the same time."
You can do what ever you want in life, believe anything, say anything its ONE's choice. And who are you to question others belief ?Are you the gatekeeper to heaven to make all these judgement on others ... She can take a ride ONE AT A TIME and keep continueing the ride she is most comfortable with.
It is not a simple task to know the sanatan dharma and then be able to live it. It requires years of careful study and devotion. Even more dedication is needed to be able to advise others on the path they should choose.
I don't think she trying to reach NIRVANA from every religoius perspective. You do not have to put yourself through pain and agony to understand and practice anything. If you are dedicated enough you won't be approaching the subject matter through pain dedication and suffering...it would come automatically. Its your brain that needs the digest the material. Putting youself though pain(fasting) and suffering(crawling around temple) is not going to help if your brain does not accept and understand.
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 11:40 AM
haina yo Riva bhannay manchhe ko nakh mai kina rish huh
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| Suna |
Posted
on 12-Jul-02 12:27 PM
Sally
kaamchor bhayera lekheyko so there are some inaccuracies in my posting:
I also don't think religions were created to have control over societies but the people who "manage" these religious institutions/groups have managed to exert some kind of control.
Its funny what you say about the koran (of which I have little/no knowledge) because if we were to translate what we see what our own goddess' achieved, thats women lib all the way. (In all senses)!. Kali, Durga..etc
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