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| Biswo |
Posted
on 26-Jul-02 09:14 PM
Udit did it again. He is awarded as the best playback singer in
49th National Film Awards in India. With it, there is a growing
sense of recognition among Indians around the world that Udit
may be the person best fit to join the illustrious list of the
two other mega playbacks of India: Mohammad Ali and Kishore Kumar.
Udit Narayan, unlike Manisha, struggled his way to the top all alone.
(Manisha's first break, I've heard, was due to the friendship of
Subhash Ghai to Madhu Dandawate, a family friend of Koiralas.)
His success story can be a lesson to all of us. In Kathmandu, the
humble and talent Udit charmed his friends while struggling in
poverty and sometimes ethnic slights. Udit succeeded in the cutthroat
competition of Bombay, against the likes of Mohammad Aziz and Kumar
Sanu. Udit is a classic success story, and his story should inspire
us, our kids.
Wouldn't it be nice if he comes to Denver Summit, 2003? He is
one of us. We should not be influenced by propaganda of Kaman
groups, and likes of Ashok Sharma and Krishna Malla, and be rabid
anti-Udit. I will readily shell out 50+ bucks as a registration fee,
if I have a chance to listen to those old hits, "Balla balla bhet
bhaako dina, bolaauda ni boldinau kina? Maayaa Baiguni, nabhai nahuni"
Since he is a very busy person, I think it is time the organizers
try to contact him if they think this advice is worthy.
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This is a real story about a polio stricken boy in Belsi, Chitwan.
I heard about his death today. He suffered from Polio, and couldn't
walk, so all the time, he used to crawl along the gritty roads of
village. He couldn't speak too.(Sometimes polio attacks respiratory
track and vocal chords).He used to speak in indistinct grating
voice. But he was smart. He knew what was going on. He used to revel
in my success, he knew me, though we never really exchanged a word.
Worse, he didn't even have a name. Who cared about naming him, anyway?
It hurt a lot to hear about his death. It was sad that he sufferred
because of his parents who didn't take him to nearby hospital to
administer polio shots. But what makes me happy is that Nepal's Polio
immunization is one of the strongest drives in South East Asia, sort
of example to others. We have just concluded four steps of polio
immunization and the next is due this Mangsir. Nepal didn't have a
single polio case last year, I've heard. Thanks to the World Bank,
the WHO, the Rotary clubs and thanks to the activity of the government,
we are going to conquer this disease.Polio shot is given free in Nepal.
Whole sets of immunization given to children costs around 15 dollars,
but it is administered for free in Nepal. Please, if you come from
remote district, spread the words around. Help poor people to understand
this. I've seen a boy needlessly crawling all his life, never standing
up in his feet, and dying in his 20s in Belsi. It is so sad. Nepal
is sorrounded by Bihar and UP, which together have 45% of world's Polio case,
and since it is caused by infectious virus, we are very likely to acquire it if
we don't take enough precaution. I also hope that our political parties
who have big grass root organizations will mobilize their cadres for
this cause also.
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| naresh_karki |
Posted
on 26-Jul-02 11:36 PM
Cont. Udit. We all Nepali are proud of you. You still have a long way to go.
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| Dilasha |
Posted
on 27-Jul-02 10:10 AM
That's great news about Udit Narayan and it sure would be awesome if the organizers would invite him for next year's convention. I've heard that he's been here for many shows organized by the Indians but wouldn't it be much more special if his fellow nepalese could invite him and honor him with an award here in the US?
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| rajaa |
Posted
on 27-Jul-02 11:29 PM
Yep we have to invite him.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 27-Jul-02 11:49 PM
Hi all,
I hope organizers won't tell us 'chhoti muha badi baat":-)
Ani Naresh Karkiji, welcome back. Tapaai ta nikai sober mudraa maa farkanu
bhayo. I never thought you read my postings too:-) Thank you very much for
your comment.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 28-Jul-02 09:23 AM
I will probably go to Denver should Udit Narayan be invited for ANA convention. I am proud of his singing success.
He is not an anti-Nepal guy. I am firmly beleive so. Whether he can commit or not but the organizers should atleast invite him in good faith.
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| naresh_karki |
Posted
on 28-Jul-02 12:20 PM
Biswo ji,
I never thought that you guys remember me, thanks for that. I dont understand why did you write.
"I never thought you read my postings too".
Eventhough I dont post messages these days, I never miss to read any of your postings. It is true that sometime I dont understand your posting 100% .
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 28-Jul-02 08:37 PM
>I never thought that you guys remember me, thanks for that.
Oh, how can I forget the bold way in which you banged the door, posted the pics
and left your address for all to read? It was a classic Amitabh style:-)
>I dont understand why did you write. "I never thought you read my postings too".
Nareshji, I didn't mean anything. I just think my postings are just too long sometimes
and they test patience of a lot of people. I have rarely found you replying my
postings in the past either.
>Eventhough I dont post messages these days, I never miss to read any of your
>postings.
Thank you Nareshji.
> It is true that sometime I dont understand your posting 100% .
I once bullied the site administrator to include this dictionary.com option here. So,
if you don't understand any word, please just double click the word, and lo, you
will get the meaning right in front of you.
Have a good day.
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 06:16 AM
Somber jottings, Biswo, but Udit, Belsi and Polio are all good topics. Udit rocks. End of story. I never believed the malicious reports on him. I remember defending him at school as a teenager some 15 years ago when Kamana ran the headlines "Udit Bharatiya Bhaye". I remember reading a recent interview of his in Kantipur. It was very graceful and gentlemanly. It would be great if he can be felicitated in Colorado next year by Amrika's dhan ra mann dubai le sampanna (?) Nepalis. In addition to "maya baiguni", his nepali song "timilai dekhera aankha tyehi chhadi hinde ma" is also nice. Belsi brings back memories - cycling from Tandi Bazaar to the Campus, then on to the Kair Khola bridge. Cycling back was harder. There's a deceptive, indiscernible incline. Sorry to hear about the polio case. I too heard about a young girl, a distant relative of mine, swept away by a minor flood in Ghyalchowk village, Gorkha. Made me really angry this weekend that so many innocent lives are just lost senselessly - Maoist brutality, army's mis-informed shootings, and now the havoc wreaked by the 'rain god' in unsuspecting terrain. But yes, in health, there are silent achievements to be appreciated. In the past 50 years, average life expectancy has shot up from 37 to around 60, child mortality reduced from 200 to around 75 for every 1000 live births, basic campaigns like Vitamin A supplementation have dramatically reduced nutritional deficiencies in rural Nepali children after prajatantra in 1990...but of course catalogue of things that remain to be done in the health sector is frighteningly long.
p.s. delighted to see an improved Mr. Karki all polite, soft and mellow :)
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 06:32 AM
sorry i think the kamana witch-hunt of udit began around 1988-89, some 13-14 years ago after his debut hindi hit "papa kahte hain"...can't recall the exact date, but still remember that damaging title "udit bharatuiya bhaye" (with udit wearing a palpali dhaka topi and labeda suruwal).
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| Mitra 2 |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 10:48 AM
Biswo ji,
You meant Mohammad Rafi, not Ali-- right? I thought Mukesh was also up there with Rafi and Kishore. I love Mukesh's dardanak songs, but his numbers are far less (13/14K?) than those of Rafi and Kishore (25+K?). And it's great to see Udit heading their way. Udit Narayan and Deepa along with Alka Yagnik were in Denver sometime in Nov./Dec. of '99. I was in Nepal and unfortunately I missed their concert, but my friends told me that they had a great time. He greeted Nepalese saying 'Ke chha gaunle ho?' and they sang a couple of their hit Nepali songs. I can't wait to see him back.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 12:03 PM
Hi Paschim and Mitraji,
Let's hope the organizers will give a serious thought about this. Of
course, we don't want to set ANA's agenda from Sajha.com, nor do we have
any intention to encroach upon the authority of elected executives of ANA.
This is just a suggestion to the esteemed senior members out there. Hope
someone is listening.
Re Polio, I remember the pro-Polio shots posters. A grown up man holding
a baby girl with deformed leg. I discovered it later that Polio does more than
that. It completely destroys a person. He can't stand up, he can't even speak
in some cases, and he dies earlier. We should help, whatever we can, the
government to make this Polio shot drive successful. Having said that, people
in Health ministry seems to have done really remarkable job in this regard.
Paschim, there is an indiscernible slope from Shantichouk to Tandi. The name Tandi
(a place in height) should suggest that.I biked there millions of times. Was on my
way to my highschool! Oh,it is so sad to hear that this flood inundated so many
places around. Even normally dormant Budhikulo (of Tandi-Sauraha chok junction)
surged atop and entered the city,I've heard. No casualty is known yet in Tandi
which is a good news. Sad to hear about the untimely death in Gorkha.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 12:05 PM
Mitraji,
Thanks for pointing out that Ali mistake. It is Rafi.
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| jira |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 12:12 PM
Yes! The idea of inviting 1974 AD obviously was a wonderful idea in convention. It attracted a lot of people indeed. As we have another convention coming up, it will be definietly fruitful to bring Udit andf if possible,.... great music husthees like Om bikram, Bacchu kailash so the mixed choices can get filled in too. I was in Denver when Udit gave the concert and sang few nepali songs. It is of no doubt that he still has a great passion for Nepali music.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 01:01 PM
Biswo, i thank you for highlighting udit's success.
All the more for his humble background. Yes, he certainly had a rough ride unlike Mainsha Bebe, an excellent actress (anyone who's so bewitchingly beautiful is bound to have it easy!!).
But here's the biggest irony. While Nepalis have been quick to acknowledge Koriala Manisha's success, Udit, a madise from Siraha (?), didn't have it so easy.
We still think that all the rastrabadis wear labeda-surwal, speak fluent Nepali, and come from the hills, or are at least descendants of the hill people. I still find some kathmandu-born Nepalis using the word "Indian" to refer to madises. Now that's sad.
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| su.............gar |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 04:41 PM
Evolution doesn't take place in day. It is really nice to see people like you voice your concerns. Ten years back there was nothing like that.
su..gar
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 04:54 PM
VillageVoiceji,
I remember this speech of Martin Luther King, not verbatim, "It is not the diabolic
vitriolic action of evil people that is contemptible, it is the silence and nonaction of
good people that is appaling." We all have been that 'silent and nonchalant' few.
I still remember people were so sad in sajha.com when Rhitik Roshan Kanda
happened and few Teraibasi were beaten in the street of Kathmandu. What kind
of nationalism will we be furthering when we can't even recognize our own people?
No wonder people in Kamana group felt comfortable to play up Udit's citizenship
issue over and over. They thought there were buyer of their hate propaganda.
It will be great if we , Nepali in USA, can show that we are above this petty
interpretation of nationalism.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 11:19 PM
Nepali media is dominated by the hill people, esp. the hill brahmins, and hence the stock response.
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| deep |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 07:52 AM
Village Voice,
*Nepali media is dominated by the hill people, esp. the hill brahmins, and hence the stock response.*
Stop using blanket comments, please.
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| su.............gar |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 08:14 AM
VVji,
You really have a great observation and it is a correct observation. But I don't think rest of the mass has done anything to shift that dominance.
su...gar
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| well-wisher |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 08:55 PM
>>I still remember people were so sad in sajha.com when Rhitik Roshan Kanda
happened and few Teraibasi were beaten in the street of Kathmandu. What kind
of nationalism will we be furthering when we can't even recognize our own people?
>>It will be great if we , Nepali in USA, can show that we are above this petty
interpretation of nationalism.
couldnt agree more. A fine piece of thought, Biswo.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 10:16 PM
Tks, Su....gar. How many dots, by the way, betn su and gar? Hope you keep it consistent :)
Well, Deep, blanket statements do get off the mark once in a while, but one still uses them to explain certain theses. I still maintain, Nepal's journalism is dominated by the hill people, esp. by hill Brahmins. Just loook around. Gorkhapatra, Kantipur, Bimarsha, NTV, etc. Hil Brahmins are the dominant group.
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| deep |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 09:16 AM
Village Voice,
I am not questioning who controls or is controlling Nepal's journalism (This could be a good topic to discuss). But my question is how do you know all those who are these so called controllers of Nepali media (*Hill Brahmins*, your words) are against Udit or Madhises?
How do you know that only pahade Bahuns and nobody else are anti-Madhises? How do you establish this fact? Are you talking about how you feel or what it is?
Yes, Blanket statements do get off the mark not just once in a while but most of the time.
Village Voice, please note that I am not against you. I just couldn't digest a blanket comment from a responsible poster like you. Yes, I couldn't digest.
Should I take a hajmola?...
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| su.............gar |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 10:18 AM
Deepji has a point over here.
No formal investigation has ever been launched to ascertain the degree of biasing among “Hill Brahmin”(In Vvji’s word) for modhise or marsyas(commonly called in KTM) ( At least I am not aware of it).
With this lack of the deterministic data I guess Vvji can’t provide you any figure all, he can do is provide you some kind of heuristics. I believe heuristics are subjective some time and confined by individual perception.
However, It is point to ponder why premier Nepali entertainment magazines never investigated Menasha’s “Nepaliness” but Udit was constantly under surveillance. Does it tell something?
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| deep |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 10:41 AM
su.........gar,
I know there are (in our Nepal) tons and tons of pahades who feel superior than madhises, regardless of their casts. These pahades or parbates or kathmandu *natives* (even Newar people in Kathmandu refer Bahuns, Chhetries with this word *Parbate*) often consider more Nepali than thier Madise counter parts. Am I saying there is no discrimination? NO. Absolutely not. BUT not all pahades think the same way.
To me Udit is no less Nepali than myself. Here I am using Udit as a symbol for the Madhise Nepali.
"However, It is point to ponder why premier Nepali entertainment magazines never investigated Menasha’s “Nepaliness” but Udit was constantly under surveillance. Does it tell something? "
We have ask those who differentiate Udit and Manisha on this. We seriously do need to ask them..."Why?"
Thanks for realizing my point.
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