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| ashu |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 12:09 AM
An analytical, well-argued article, detailing how McKinsey contributed to Enron-itis.
http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/020722fa_fact
Enjoy,
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Suna |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 07:37 AM
Interesting article!!
Always thinking outside of the box makes one a lunatic, a non-conformist gone haywire!
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| NK |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 08:26 AM
yes, they definitely are! just look at us!
hahaha!
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| NK |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 08:39 AM
Just thought of something that has been vexing me.
Are stupid people underrated?
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| Suna |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 10:30 AM
Can you tell I have a personal vendetta against MC??
just somewhat ;)
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| well-wisher |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 11:02 AM
hmm....only *smart* people replyin to this thread..?
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 12:35 PM
Guess it essentially boils down to the difference between "wisdom" and "intelligence"? I think, intelligent, and articulate (a narcisstic combination indeed !!), people get far more celebrated in their companies than they deserve.
Experience, on the other hand, is a far less sexy commodity. In a star-starved company, coupled with a poor accounting system, it may not even get noticed, either by the managers or colleagues.
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 29-Jul-02 08:51 PM
I agree, stupid people are underrated .... I mean come on .... I might look stupid, but I am dead serious when I order a chicken hamburger from Nanglo ..... Thyank you very much ......
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| AP |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 10:25 AM
Stupid and Smart, these two words make many people cofuse often. Let us take the example of Bill Clinton whether he is smart or stupid. I know one of the RPP representative in Nepal Ramesh Nath Pande, when he sworn as a Minister in Panchyat era first time , the very day his mother was begging for food and shelter( because he cicked her out from the house the earlier day)
Let us not forget that corruption in Nepal is being done by educated people than their
average educated colleagues. Should we establish the norms to verify the criterias for it?
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| stupid! |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 12:34 PM
Hhmmmm maybe they are...but here is one for the "extra" smart ones like you!
"Narcissists typically make judgments with greater confidence than other people . . . and, because their judgments are rendered with such conviction, other people tend to believe them and the narcissists become disproportionately more influential in group situations. Finally, because of their self-confidence and strong need for recognition, narcissists tend to "self-nominate"; consequently, when a leadership gap appears in a group or organization, the narcissists rush to fill it." http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/020722fa_fact
;)
>Are stupid people underrated?
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| stupid! |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 12:39 PM
And I totally agree with junkie and AP... well said!
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| AP |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 12:49 PM
There is no need to consider any one stupid or smart and in the same token there is no need to underestimate any one with the stupid name. So all stupids are advised to changed their names with the real names as after all stupid must have attended the basic school education.
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| mg |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 12:51 PM
haha AP!
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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 01:36 PM
nice article. But will seeking non-talented people do the job? Fresh Graduates should be given chance to prove themselves.
These ploys of thinking that Fresh Graduates r not good enough is just cooked up by some lazy ol' white american fellas.
Just having experienced hands will take u only so far. Then what?
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| _BP |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 01:39 PM
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
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| chiso hawa |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 01:51 PM
www.managementfirst.com/practical_management/leadership_and_motivation.htm
hi, bp! it was starting to get stuffy in here. thanks for the refreshment.
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| Suna |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 01:55 PM
Biruwa,
you mean a white boy's club?? Even wiith all it's crazy ways, Mckinsey can hardly be blamed for that after all they have an Indian as their top-dog!
And Mckinsey does hire fresh under grads - as summer interns. (at least they used to as far as I am aware of) Its up to the interns to make an impression after which they are employed full time with the option of going to MBA school and Mckinsey paying for it with the understanding that the grads come back to work for them.
The biggest problem for a person who would like to work for such companies from a country like ours is that most of us had never even heard of such high profile companies and therefore have no way of even knowing how to go about getting jobs there. Experience does count but so does the name of the schools. Sad but true.
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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 02:03 PM
Suna,
no, I was not talking about Mckinsey. Infact in the article itself it says that enron followed Mckinsey's footsteps and that Mckinsey was a contributor to enron's eventual collapse.
What I am saying is that putting the blame on fresh graduate is what shouln'd be done. :)
peace.
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| Koko |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 02:03 PM
As Krishnamurti would say....
There are no stupid people. Its all relative. Everybody makes mistakes..some are more obtuse than others. But at times people with higest iq's say the dumbest things. It also depends upon which part of your brian is more active(left or right).
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| stupid! |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 02:53 PM
REALLY? Are you SURE?
>There is no need to consider any one stupid
>or smart and in the same token there is no
>need to underestimate any one with the
>stupid name. So all stupids are advised to
>changed their names with the real names as
>after all stupid must have attended the
>basic school education.
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