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| kirsten |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 07:57 PM
I have married a Nepali and I do not know if many people recognise this. I am getting
sick off the attitude of his family towards him. Like he has to solve all their
problems and even worse, like he 'living in a rich country' would never have any
problems, like never feel unhappy. And the family 'living in a poor country' would
always be not to blamed for the basket things they do because they are poor. This
while the poor kid has enough trouble adapting here, and is in no need off getting
all the mud over his from Cuba everytime he calls. Frankly I hate his family for
this....What should I do with those idiots...
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| HAMPHU |
Posted
on 30-Jul-02 08:11 PM
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| Bhenda |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 06:12 AM
Isn't hate a big word?? Nepalese people are very family oriented people and the sons are responsible for taking care of the family.
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| troll |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 07:33 AM
Divorce the "poor kid" and marry one of your own. That's how "those idiots" in the entire third world are - not just Nepal. Boy, what an attitude you have.
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| mother goose |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 07:35 AM
Kirsten,
You got that right sister! Right on the money!! If you don't put your foot down right now you are in for a rough ride. 5 years down the road you may not have this problem with your problem-solving Nepali husband. Will you be sad? Or not!
So the thing to do is talk to him NOT accuse him of trying to be messiah. As Bhenda, a Nepali male I presume, says sons are responsible for taking care of the family and this taking care can cover everything from sending a bag of rice from the USA to get their sisters married to take care of the neighbor's dogs. I don't think you have anything against being a "family man" [read: his parents] but you have gripe against the EXPECTATIONS these family members put on your husband. You have to have a clear idea how far you want to go "helping them" and when you should say STOP! And COMMUNICATE this with your Nepali husband who is a recent immigrant, who by the way may have been feeling guilty to live in this "luxurious" world.
Good Luck! You need this.
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 08:38 AM
Kirsten,
First of all, the heading " The attitude of the immigrants family" itself is INVALID. It's not their attitude Kirsten. It's our Nepali TRADITION that sons take care of their family and it's been like that for hundred of years. Just because your husband is in the US and married to an American girl doesn't mean that he is gonna change overnight for you over his family. Please don't think that I'm trying to discourage you but from my point of view, you have the following options in order:
- Let him know what do you think about this problem but don't PUSH him too hard.
- Have lots of kids with him so that he won't have time to listen to his family
problems in Nepal.
- Marriage Counseling might help ( I doubt it ).
- Get divorced.
One way or the other, if you really want to resolve this problem both of you have to make some sacrifices and it may hurt each other's pride and feelings along the way but it is worth it. Good Luck :-)
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| you married the family |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 08:53 AM
work it out amongst yourselves, please.
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| sangey |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 10:01 AM
I am afraid, on this one, I will have to disagree with Mother Goose. Probably not entirely with the content of her posting, but the tone in which she conveyed the message. MG is a good friend of mine, so I hope she will take this positively.
Now Kirsten, the fact is, when you marry a Nepali man, it is typically the case, you marry into a family. It is a cultural difference, so to speak. While Americans are very individualistic in nature, Nepalis are quite group/family oriented. So, usually, when you marry a Nepali man, you just don't marry him, but you marry his family, his background (which could be vastly different from yours), his values, his upbringings, etc.
Wealth IS a factor. While here in the US, you have Social Security that folks depend on when they get old, in Nepal, your son IS your retirement fund. Unless you have a lucrative business or you have significant inherited money or you were able to amass wealth by being corrupt at your job, the common working class people have no retirement funds to fall back on. As it is, the salary level is so low that it is barely, if at all, enough to subsist month by month.
Our religious upbringing enforces the ideal that off-springs look after their parents, and other elderly. Buddha preached a model in which one's income is to be divided into four parts. First quarter you spend on your day to day needs, second quarter you save for the future, third quarter you donate to charity, and the last quarter you give to your parents. I am not saying this model is to be followed to the T, but what I am trying to convey to you is that this is the philosophy we have been brought up with.
While it is unfair to you and your husband if his family back in Nepal demands his help on every minor matter, for the major issues, he(and you as a "buhari") HAS to be consulted and, if need be, required to help. Parents do feel, and they are right to a certain extent, that it is their god given right to ask their children for assistance. And it IS children's solemn duty to make sure that their parents are well taken care of. However, this is also up to a reasonable limit.
When that limit is crossed and unreasonable demands are made, then it best behooves you to work WITH your husband to resolve the situation by talking and with RESPECT to your in-laws. Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT put your foot down and adopt the "my way or the highway" attitude. Divorce should not be an option at all, if possible. Marriage is not a knot one should ever untie, unless in the extreme extenuating circumstances. I am of a firm belief that everything can be worked out towards the benefit of all parties if the husband and wife put their heads (and hearts) together to resolve any issues whatsoever in the holy communion of matrimony and in the sanctity of family.
Kirsten, I implore you, do NOT make your husband choose between you and his family. Because, he will loose either which way he chooses. And, trust me, you will also loose in the long run if your husband feels he has lost part of himself.
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| ignore nepali men on this |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 10:34 AM
yo nepal hoina. house rules, y'all!
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| LamjungKunchha |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 12:09 PM
Kristen,
I agree with sangey what he is saying. Divorce is not an option. I also agree that family play greater role in our lives in Nepal than in the US after the age of 18. Yes, I have also seen people who are very attached to their family even when they are old in the US. It also depends on the background you grow up with.
As a Nepali man married to a sweet US lady, I can probably provide some insight to your problem. I don't know what your exact situation is though.
Here are things that has helped us when it comes to our relationship with my family back in Nepal.
1. A very good explanation from your husband will make you somewhat understand why he is doing it.
2. Ask him what his family is expecting from him. Clear understanding helps you what to expect and avoids unknown surprizes which may become permanent strain to the relationship.
3. Realize any happy relationship is based on a mutual unselfish sacrifices. I know your husband need to sacrifice too. I am sure he can tell you how many ways he has sacrificed so he can be with you.
4. Never blame any miscommunication or problem to the cultural differences. Believe me even twins who grew up in the same house understand same thing differently. The problem of blaming the difference becomes a scapegoat, creating a pile of unresolved issues.
5. Realize you fell in love with this man who grew up in very different background than you did because you liked who he is, the difference and the uniqueness he has. Cherish those qualities which attracted you. With those qualities also come the nuances he grew up with. I am sure if both of you put your relationship above all every issue can be resolved.
Marriage is not a relation of convienience. It is a continuous work. But with that work comes the result of beautiful matrimonial happiness which both spouses can enjoy.
I hope I did not sound too preachy. I am writing this based on my own experience. Just my two cents.
Hope you can resolve your issue with your husband.
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| American |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 12:28 PM
To " kirsten "
Sound is Not Right. You should not start with any foreigner. Particularly, be careful with people those who come from Nepal. They just want to marry an American Girl to get " Green Card ". Green Card that provide them to get job here.
It is just for using people feeling, life and enjoy with it. I hate to say this but I saw with my Eyes. When a Nepali man get a "Green Card" then he as soon as possible made divorce an American wife and go home for another marriage. And people in his country don't know what he is doing in USA.
Maybe it is not happen to you but I saw that. This is very poor action and life.
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 01:29 PM
Kirsten,
American is absolutely right and I commend his/her honesty. LamjungKunchha is saying this and that ...blah..blah..blah just to make you feel better but there is no honesty. You need to watch out people like LamjungKunchha who act very sweet and caring outside but very shallow, fake and unrealistic in real nature. Sounds like he is more concerned about SAVING YOUR MARRIAGE than tackling on the real issue, which is , how to communicate better with your husband and his family. Where did this "SAVING YOUR MARRIAGE" thing come from ? These People are trying to make you feel vulnerable my starting " Saving Your Marriage" issue. They are just trying to dump all the guilt on you so that you'll agree on whatever your husband says. All I'm saying is, do whatever is right for you and DIVORCE is certainly an OPTION. Why not ? Just because
Divorce is not widely accepted in Nepali culture doesn't mean that you have to agree on all the things Nepali Culture tells you to do. That will make you even miserable than before. Don't let that happen !! If your husband really loves you then he'll have to set the priorites straight and agree on some of the things you don't like. If doesn't love you then what is point of staying with him ? Life is just a compromise but don't let anyone step on you. PEACE :-)
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| LamjungKunchha |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 02:20 PM
American,
You are making a blanket statement, here. There are people from different corners of world who married an American to get a green card. But there are also foreigners who married americans because they genuinely love and want to be with their counterpart.
By making a statement, you are lumping all good honest people who married their american spouse because they love and care their partner, into selfish and arrogant people.
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| sweety |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 02:40 PM
>I have married a Nepali and I do not know if
>many people recognise this. I am getting
>sick off the attitude of his family towards
>him.
Once you are married to a Nepali gut, the nepali tradition asks you to say "our" rather "his" family. You sound like one of those typical american who do not have sasu, sasura, buhari etc but have my husband's father, mother or my son's wife.
Like he has to solve all their
>problems and even worse, like he 'living in
>a rich country' would never have any
>problems, like never feel unhappy.
You are right,
monitarily rich: culturally, socially poor.
And the
>family 'living in a poor country' would
>always be not to blamed for the basket
>things they do because they are poor. This
>while the poor kid has enough trouble
>adapting here, and is in no need off getting
>all the mud over his from Cuba everytime he
>calls. Frankly I hate his family for
>this....What should I do with those idiots...
You need to change your attitude and learn to understand the family value of your nepali husband has. Try to be a part of that family tree. you will not loose any thing but gain a lot.
Actually your kind of attitude of seperating the family is what your husband's family hate.
Helping the family is your husbands culture as the old parents are dependent upon the him. Try to understand the social structure of your husbands origin. Primitive it may look for you but the ties are much more stronger than you may think.
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| LamjungKunchha |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 02:43 PM
Nattu,
You are entitled to your opinion. You can interpret what I said however you want to. But please don't judge me without knowing me. How do you know I am a shallow, fake and unrealistic person. How do you know there is no honesty in what I said. Just because you don't agree with me does not mean you can attack me personally without facts.
Well, Just because I am telling Kristen what I felt, that does not mean she has to listen to me. For me saving the marriage is very important. For you, it may not be.
Nattu, "Saving the Marriage" comes from the matrimonial tie Kristen tied with her Nepali husband. Yes, her husband has the equal responsibility to salvage their marriage. But we are not talking to her husband here, are we. Ask the people who have gone through divorce, most of them would tell you stay away from it.
Divorce is easy way out but the staying together is difficult. Mending a straining relationship takes a lot of energy and caourge and sometimes it is very painful but the happiness that comes through a succesful marriage is way more worthwhile than pains we go through to maintain it.
One more tips for you, Nattu, everybody who eulogizes marriage and family is not a superficial and shallow. You don't have to be cynical and critical to be deep and realistic.
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| Mike Binaju |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 04:32 PM
Kristen,
I am the Gringo in a large family of Nepali. Yes, I married a Nepalese Woman, more than one decade ago.
My view is that Family is the basis in Nepali culture. Family members go the distance to take care of their relatives, especially when they have an advantage.
My suggestion is similar to others who have already written. Do what you can, and let them know when you can't.
Wish you the best in your future with your husband, his extended family, and Nepali culture in general.
Mike
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 04:33 PM
LamjungKunchha,
Nice Try !!
You wrote ( Pheri tyo Purano style ), " You are entitled to your opinion. You can interpret what I said however you want to. But please don't judge me without knowing me. How do you know I am a shallow, fake and unrealistic person.
Well Let me ask you this, WHO THE HECK ARE YOU then ? Yes, you were right that I don't know you and WHO CARES ? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOEVER OR WHATEVER YOU ARE IN REAL LIFE. The only lamjungKanchha I know is through your posting and that matters to me. In a sense, whatever you post in a public forum becomes YOU. You may not be shallow or unrealistic in real life but if you represent yourself like that in public forum then it is not my fault. So, POST CAREFULLY. If don't like the criticism then STOP POSTING. It's simple as that. Don't be a CRY BABY !!
LamjungKanchha, I'm a young Single Nepali Guy myself. I may be not as good or expert like you in this RELATIONSHIP THING but I'm not totally unware of it though. It's really SAD when you said "Saving the Marriage" comes from the matrimonial tie Kristen tied with her Nepali husband. You made it sound like, MARRIAGE is nothing but an OBJECT and Kirstin is obligated to do whatever pleases her husband just to keep the relationship intact. How dare you disrespecting Kirstin like that ? You seem like an intellect person but WHAT HAPPEND ? I guess, you need suggestions more than Kirstin does. I PITY for you dude. This ain't your god damn LAMJUNG. Go back to LAMJUNG and WASHE DISHES
like real KAANCHA does.
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| LamjungKunchha |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 05:53 PM
You wrote "Well Let me ask you this, WHO THE HECK ARE YOU then ? Yes, you were right that I don't know you and WHO CARES ? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOEVER OR WHATEVER YOU ARE IN REAL LIFE. The only lamjungKanchha I know is through your posting and that matters to me. In a sense, whatever you post in a public forum becomes YOU. You may not be shallow or unrealistic in real life but if you represent yourself like that in public forum then it is not my fault. So, POST CAREFULLY. If don't like the criticism then STOP POSTING. It's simple as that. Don't be a CRY BABY !! "
I don't care if you say my arguments are shallow because they can stand on their own. But don't call me fake and shallow without knowing me. If you want to attack my views and postings, go ahead. But don't attack me. You need to be careful body. Don't personalize it. Make it argumentative. If you don't want to be argumentative, don't criticize then. We cannot be hot headed and personal if we want to carry an intellectual discussion.
Your wrote "LamjungKanchha, I'm a young Single Nepali Guy myself. I may be not as good or expert like you in this RELATIONSHIP THING but I'm not totally unware of it though. It's really SAD when you said "Saving the Marriage" comes from the matrimonial tie Kristen tied with her Nepali husband. You made it sound like, MARRIAGE is nothing but an OBJECT and Kirstin is obligated to do whatever pleases her husband just to keep the relationship intact. How dare you disrespecting Kirstin like that ? You seem like an intellect person but WHAT HAPPEND ? I guess, you need suggestions more than Kirstin does. I PITY for you dude. This ain't your god damn LAMJUNG. Go back to LAMJUNG and WASHE DISHES like real KAANCHA does."
Well, who is objectifying marriage here. I am the one who is saying marriage is not a mere object which can be abandoned the moment it does not suit our lives. It is one of the most important things we do in our lives. Every marriage has its own troubled times. But the succesful one always endure those times with mutual sacrifice and realization of those sacrifices by both parties.
Go back to my posting find one place where I said her husband can do whatever he wants to and kristen should let it go. I have always been clear saying that marriage is the work of two people and both of them need to work for its success.
Well, yes I am from Lamjung and proud of its heritage. I am also living in the US. If this gives you a headache, sorry dude you will have to suffer through this one:)
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 31-Jul-02 09:17 PM
Kirsten:
One of my fren once said: "When you marry a nepali, you don't just marry that person..... you marry the whole clan" ...... sure it has it's good sides and downsides ..... but then again so does education and freedom of speech. use it liberally but intelligently ......
Consider it like a big fraternity .... a sorority (sure you can realte to it) ..... just cuz one of your sister bugs you or pukes on your bed after a great friday, you don't abandon her ......
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 01-Aug-02 08:19 AM
Khuchinggggggg kristen ko poi,
gori lai biha gare pachi yestai huncha. didn't you know what american ppl aren't close to their family like we are??? why in hell did you have to marry a white girl? this is what you get by marrying a white gal. it will be either your wife or your family. you will have to choose.
good luck and try to have a happy marriage life,
dangggg
ps. kristen, if you didn't understand what I wrote, print it out and ask your hubby to explain it for you. And another thing I see a divorce in your marriage life 5 years down the road and the reason will be - too much involvement with family.
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 01-Aug-02 08:25 AM
Alright Dude !! As soon as long you are not objectifying marriage and agree on mutual understandings, it is fine with me. What do you say, Kirsten ? As far as my knowledge, there is no such thing called "PERSONAL" in Public forums. Everything becomes PUBLIC PROPERTY in Public forums whether you like it or not. So, why are you accusing me of
PERSONAL ATTACKS ?
Kirsten, we were supposed to give you helpful suggestions but somehow we lost track and it got personal ( according to him) between LamjungKunchha and me . Anyway,
I apologize for any additional emotional distress that might have caused by our postings.
Kirsten, I suggested what I think is appropriate and practical in today's world but you don't have to take my word for it. It's all up to you.
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 01-Aug-02 08:36 AM
Kristen, my child,
I see divorce or seperation in your future and the reason will be IRRCONCILABLE CULTURAL DIFFERENCE.
good luck,
Miss Cleo
kristen,
When you marry a guy from different culture you oughtta understand his culture and how things work in his society. you gotta understand the environment he grew up in. Girl, its totally different from here. In nepal we respect our parents and family. we take responsibility of our family even after we get married get old. we do not leave parents' house after we turn 18, we live with our parents even after we get married and get old. we believe in joint family.
Unlike here we feel proud of living with our parents even after turning 18.....
Kristen, you should have understood that before you tied knot with him. But its not too late. try to reason with him and also try to accept his closeness with his family. You should have thought about the fact that you have to change yourself a little when you marry a nepali man.
If you can't do that, then your marriage might be ruined. save your marriage,understand him and change yourself!!!!!
I understand you might be pissed off at me right now but think about it. It might help you save your marriage.
good luck,
Dr.dangggg ( self-proclaimed psychologist)
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| mother goose |
Posted
on 01-Aug-02 09:02 AM
some excerpts from postings on this thread:
"Our religious upbringing enforces the ideal that off-springs look after their parents, and other elderly. Buddha preached a model in which one's income is to be divided into four parts. First quarter you spend on your day to day needs, second quarter you save for the future, third quarter you donate to charity, and the last quarter you give to your parents. I am not saying this model is to be followed to the T, but what I am trying to convey to you is that this is the philosophy we have been brought up with."
"I also agree that family play greater role in our lives in Nepal than in the US after the age of 18."
"When you marry a guy from different culture you oughtta understand his culture and how things work in his society. you gotta understand the environment he grew up in. Girl, its totally different from here. In nepal we respect our parents and family. we take responsibility of our family even after we get married get old. we do not leave parents' house after we turn 18, we live with our parents even after we get married and get old. we believe in joint family.
Unlike here we feel proud of living with our parents even after turning 18..... "
These are just a few examples of people looking through their own culturally biased prism. I know we fowl do that too but it is more pronounced in humans and Nepali at that. You always here 'my culutre is this, my culture demands this, and my culture is much more.' I have a question for these people:
What about Kirsten's Culture? Does the burden of "understanding" reside only on her? A woman or a man (like Mike Bhinaju) who comes from the west always have to bow to the Nepali culture? What about her culture? Are you saying you people are the only thekedar of a "culture?" First answer these and we can proceed.
Since everybody brings in their own personal life to give more validity (not sure, but sure looks like it) as if that gives their posting more gravitas, let me say this much the: I am also cohabiting with a male goose from a differnet country and, I understand his culutre and he understands mine. Since there is no such thing as marriage in my species (culture) there is no divorce. But if push comes to shove I will fly away and he can look after all those ugly ducklings himself!!
Last: Divorce is an option and should be one! ~ Mother Goose
(disclaimer: I am not advocating divorce in your case at all. That is a general remark)
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| ? |
Posted
on 01-Aug-02 05:29 PM
Interesting thread even though I doubt it genuity.
To mothergoose, Can reconciliation be a solution? And Yes, divorce should be an option but not the way.
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| mother goose |
Posted
on 03-Aug-02 01:16 PM
?,
Yes, of course reconcilliation can be an option. Just be careful which one of the partner always SEES THE LIGHT and gives in. If it is the same partner time and time again, obviously something is at play here.
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| ? |
Posted
on 04-Aug-02 04:20 AM
*Reconciliation* should be the preference. I wonder how many people would fall back to the same kind of relationship over and over again. I guess, not many. Either the person has to have a severe lack of judgement or is in sheer bad luck.
Even though it takes a little more energy (the second law of thermodynamics) to keep everything in order, I think it would be the righteous way. Hasten critical decisions in life without much thought and actions and, it would affect adversely in the lives of both parties.
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| kirsten |
Posted
on 04-Aug-02 10:53 PM
Thanks to everyone who responded. I feel sad to see there are only a few( mother goose..etc) who see things from my side, my culture, my perspective.
We are not even considered to be human beings(by his family). We have money hence we have no trouble therefor no feelings, and no-one should be
bothered by our problems. I hardly call that a difference in culture, I call that
anti-social behaviour!
A good(?) suggestion (not from this thread) in this was: send them a amount off money a month you know that
is a good salary in those countries. Then if they still complain you can tell them
that they get a salary monthly off a good employee extra a month. And if they then
still cant keep budget, then it is their own fault.
Now that is money. The other thing is the emotional problems. The guy sometimes
panics if he hears these stories. Then later the story was 'heavily painted' a
little if you know what I mean. But he was worried about it for days, called for
hundreds off dollars to keep in touch, and could not set his mind to studying the
language himself, adapting himself to this society. he has strong emotional problems
anyway even apart from Nepal. And then comes this attitude: 'we have problems because
we are in Nepal, you live happy because you live there'. It makes me absolutely and
absolutely furious!
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| Suna |
Posted
on 05-Aug-02 06:55 AM
Well Kristen
Its time to let YOUR HUSBAND know that there are times when he has to put his foot down. At the same time, you have to remember that sons and nowadays daugters take care of their parents in our society and its a cultural aspect that you would have to admire as opposed to just dumping them in an old age home (some aspects of which I also admire). So, here is something a friend of mine suggested to me: why don't you guys work out a sum that the TWO of you can afford and lump that up every month. Send the collected amount every six months so that the people receiving it can do concrete things with that amount rather than getting a little here and there.
The two of you will have devised a budget for this and both of you won't have to fear the next call from home sweet home. :).
About your hubby panicking: point out to him that there is no use panicking, after all he is in the US and he didn't just get to the US on a free ride. His parents had to have money somewhere! Maybe you guys could stick to calling cards and budgetting that as well? How much does a person need to talk to someone?? $20 dollar cards twice a month would get him chatting with his family for 120 mins!!
Last comment, make sure he is not running you dry with his sob stories!
Yes, while people are poor back home, noone is starving in our country. Our extended families are there to help, our friends don't mind parting with a portion of their food. Just make sure he is not reaming you!
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 07-Aug-02 08:05 PM
Funny how ppl proclaim that one doesn't see their point of view ..... and yet turn a blind eye to understand others .......
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| Suna |
Posted
on 08-Aug-02 08:48 AM
was that directed at me?
Oh well, didn't get the gist of it.
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| say the word |
Posted
on 08-Aug-02 09:58 AM
kirsten-ji,
please let the rest of us know when you've had enough "advice", as some folks will just keep going on and on. pugyo? bhayo?
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 08-Aug-02 10:34 AM
I totally agree with junkie. Everyone here is making a notion of their own what Kirsten should understand, what she should do and should not, and blah blah blah. Give poor girl a chance, will ya folks? (I didn't mean she is poor financially, or is she?) She wrote what she felt and was seeking some help in honest way. However, her remarks might have sounded stark and provocative to some, being Nepalese. At the same time, we do not know how accurately was she depicting her problems, neither we know what her husband's idea is on this matter. We don't have both sides of the story.
Hence, she called for a help. I do not see it as a cultural issue, nor about the ubringing morals and ethics of the Nepalese virtues and values and the social customs. It's all about the money. Damn right! you heard me, it's a financial matter.
I would say, Kirsten, talk to you husband regarding this. Give him a clear picture of how you feel and what you want. Be submissive, not hostile. And listen to him what he has to say or feels about this. Bear in mind, reconcilation brings truce whereas divorce brings bitterness and heartbreaks. To get something you oughta lose something. That's the universal truth. If sacrificing a little brings happiness and joy, go for it. If you do not see that's your style and your way, you can show him the highway. The choice is yours.
p/s: I truly pray for the best of you both.
PEACE
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| takura |
Posted
on 08-Aug-02 04:35 PM
Hi all,
Having seen all these postings and threads, I think it would be fair for me to say that Sajha.com is our e-version of Jerry Springer.hahahahahaha
Peace!
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