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VISA DENIED

   Isn’t It An Unfair Act? June 1st 2002 14-Aug-02 Poor Student
     Hey Poor student, Something similar hap 14-Aug-02 Another Student
       Dude, You need to write to State departm 14-Aug-02 DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS)
         Key suggestion- go visit your local offi 14-Aug-02 1234
           My brother was denied twice from america 14-Aug-02 CHITWAN
             This is an example of discrimination aga 14-Aug-02 Satya
               Dear Friends, Th 14-Aug-02 Reality Bites
                 Dear mitra haru,,, my sympathy to all 14-Aug-02 Sanjay
                   Hi Sanjay I agree with the counsulars t 14-Aug-02 Another Student
                     Another student mitra,, i totally agree 14-Aug-02 Sanjay
                       Sympathetic to all those whose loved one 14-Aug-02 Logical Sense


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Poor Student Posted on 14-Aug-02 08:12 AM

Isn’t It An Unfair Act?

June 1st 2002 Saturday would be the biggest day for several Nepalese students studying in Bellevue University-Nebraska, USA. It’s the Graduation Day of the students, the final ceremony which the students want to share with their family.

Students were busy inviting friends here and parents from home. Sending the invitation card the university provided, we too invited our parents-Govinda Neupane and Sarita Neupane, to attend the joyous ceremony.

They went to the American Embassy on 19th April to apply for the visa. Just for a single interview, the embassy charges US$ 50 that is nearly Rs. 4,000. When the Consular asked them the reason for their visit to America, they said it was for their son’s Graduation ceremony. But, instead of looking at the invitation or listening to them, the Consular told them "I’m sorry, I think you are going just to visit America, not to attend the Graduation Ceremony" and they were rejected without a second word. We, waiting sleeplessly for the result, were disappointed but did not lose hope, as it was a genuine case.

So, again on 29th April 2002, they went to the American Embassy to reapply for the visa, again paying Rs.4000 each and this time they were confident of getting the visa. So were we. But, at the time of interview, the official just looked at the papers, the invitation and told them I’m sorry I can’t give you the visa as there is no certainly that you will come back."

Isn’t it an unfair judgement on the part of the American Embassy? How can the embassy doubt my parents’ status and their sincerity who afforded for my education for five years in the US?

The date of Graduation is near. But we are so very hurt by the unfair act of American Consular.

Does the embassy have a satisfactory answer?
Another Student Posted on 14-Aug-02 08:46 AM

Hey Poor student,
Something similar happened to my sister. She had all her documents to come to study in the states but the counsulor told her that "Looking at her, she feels she'll stay in States". That was so weird. She tried again, paid all the money and again she was denied. I think the Embassy should REFUND the money if the visa is denied. Why should we pay each time and for what!
The embassy denied my sister an education that could have changed her whole life!! Now she's married and has babies. If she had the opportunity she would have been someone by now and would have had a nice career instead of depending on her husband. As we all know Nepalese education sucks! Too much politics and bands there.

I think it's very unfair that the American Embassy is so very biased and subjective. They should remember that all those who are in America right now are the immigrants or decendants of those immigrants too. Instead of giving free gc to all those terrorist countries give it to students from countries that want to study and make a difference in their life, community and Country. I think the Embassy should have a valid reason for not giving visas to students who are sincere and honest. Its's so very unfair.
DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) Posted on 14-Aug-02 08:51 AM

Dude, You need to write to State department, Consular division, Washinton DC. I am hundred percent sure thy will reply to you. On the other had , Belive that the consulars at the embassies are allowed to issue visas on their own descretion., whether the reason is genuine or not. No wonder lot of nepalese people tend to go the wrong direction which is GHUS.
I used to know someone at the embassy who was very nice to everyone and had no problem issuing visas to nepalese people. But that was long time ago and now lives in New york. Sorry to hear the story. I guess one has to keep on trying.
1234 Posted on 14-Aug-02 10:19 AM

Key suggestion- go visit your local office of congress or write them. Tell 'em your problem. They will help you if you have sensible points. You don't have to be a US Citizen or permanent residence to visit there.
CHITWAN Posted on 14-Aug-02 11:02 AM

My brother was denied twice from american embassey to get visa. He was the gold medalist of 2002 in MA and was applying visa for his PHD. Think about it,How painful was it for him and our family..............
Satya Posted on 14-Aug-02 11:17 AM

This is an example of discrimination against people of a poor country.
Reality Bites Posted on 14-Aug-02 01:09 PM

Dear Friends,
This is what I have to say,"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never gonna know what you gonna get".....May be this is something to do with what you did in your past life - I mean either Good Karma or Bad karma. So let's do good karma this time so that in our next birth, things will go well as we expect it to happen....

Bye
US visa rejected four times.....
Sanjay Posted on 14-Aug-02 01:39 PM

Dear mitra haru,,,

my sympathy to all who has suffered from the visa being denied. ya,, sometimes the genuine are denied the visa. But it is also true that some nepalese who came to the US,, even with the tourist visa are not back, Well they are the problem creaters and our genuine friends are suffering. But if we see on behalf of the consular,, how could he/she distinguish dudh ko dudh,, pani ko pani,, who are the genuine and who are proxy. I know a case of a first class govmt officer in Nepal denied the visa. But his intention was to get into the US and make money for some years. the person had all updated documents,, but the consular denied,, and i think the consular is true and justified. I know this statement of mine will hurt the friends who are suffering now,, but still this is the fact.

It would be gr8 is the visa be issued to the parents,, and they all join the graduation ceremony.Visa fees suld be reimbursed. I heard one reason for denying visa is to keep people applying for it,, and the application fees runs the embassy cost (khoi kee hoo kunnii)

Chitwan mitra,, it really pity to ur bro,, ur bro looks brilliant.. believe me,, one day (sooner or later) ur bro will hit the summit of achievement. And particularly for me,, i don agree that the best education is only in the US,, so ur bro could try schools outside the US and make his life.Many of us just say education is best the US,, guess it is becoz of job possibility in that country after studies.
Another Student Posted on 14-Aug-02 02:03 PM

Hi Sanjay
I agree with the counsulars trying to stop people who want to take extreme advantage but we are all opportunist, aren't we? There's nothing left back in Nepal except for the love of our country. Look at it economically, financially and politically-all you find is utter frustration each step of the way.

But the Consular should look at the student's records, files etc and then give a judgement. But they are just rejecting people looking at their faces or their appearance!!. That's so unfair. If a girl weras jeans and goes to get visa then she'll stay in the US forever!! what nonsense that's the mentality they have. That's wrong.

We all want the best in life and a good life too don't we? So, what's wrong with that?
Sanjay Posted on 14-Aug-02 04:03 PM

Another student mitra,,
i totally agree wd u.. well denying the visa without making a critical evaluation of the students records is really unfair,, and thats happening very often.And we all want best in life,, its human essence. on behalf of our nep mitras,, i wish they make way into the west,,, desh bhitra koo sthiti kastoo naajug chaa,, nothing except frustration.. I too am holding a B1/B2 visa now,,but i wont use it to enter the US.. I don think that visa status will really stand stead for my future. Some times ago i wished to live in west and make money,, tara paisa bhaneko tyestai rahechaa..Yoo bidesh ma basera nai khusi hunchaa bhanne kunai jaruri chainaa jastoo lagyoo malia taaaa..desh farkaa abhiyan jari chaa..Kasai lai visa koo stiker transfer garna milnee bhaye taa,, visa donation poo garnee thiyee..
Logical Sense Posted on 14-Aug-02 05:24 PM

Sympathetic to all those whose loved ones did not get visa.

Yes, friends I am one of you whose loved ones were denied US Visa many times. I completely understand your pain.

And I agree with Sanjay's comments and want to state further that US is sympahtic to Nepalese coming to US and we realize Nepalese are getting more Visa in proportional basis if you compare with countries in the region. In last 10 years our presence in US have swelled to 70 to 100K. Most of them came with legal Visa. Also, around 2300 Nepalese got Lottery visa for 2003, Nepal got advantage of few contries drop out from the list due to Terrorist threats.

So, what I mean is for few of the people who did not get Visa there are many of them who get it. But, I do understand if you are the victim then statistics does not matter.