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| namita |
Posted
on 18-Apr-01 09:24 PM
"Ce n'est pas une poem"
My unsurmountable ego, it is so big
you'll be surprised it is bigger than my feet
Let it be known every argument has to go my way
Making a fool of myself? No way!
Socrates said and unexamined life is not worth living
I wonder what would he say to my yaketiyaking?
I argue for argument sake
you see i have some personal score to set(tle)
I argue therefore I am I say
that is why I go nay nay nay nayneh
I assume different guises
sometimes i am Void and I hear voices
Sometimes I am Sangita
and other times I just see Ramita
Sangita, Ramita, Shunyata
Hey, at the end I am plain old Namita
This is just a showcase for my 'Bidwata'
Thank you San, for your 'Yogyata'
I sit around often around ma san ma
meditating gravely about Shunyata
Often enough I hide behind my 'parada'
I steam and chew my own flesh in paranoia
Sangita, Ramita, Shunyata ...
At the end, I am just a plain ol' Namita
namita kiran-thuene
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| namita kiran-thuene |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 09:40 AM
sorry, i forgot to give credit where credit was due. the title of my posting was from the post modernist artist Rene Magritte. it was "Ces n'est pas une pipe" from the famous painting of a pipe, as many of you may know. for those of who don't understand french it means "that is not a pipe." (somebody asked me what it meant)
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| sally |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 12:50 PM
Hi Namita,
A quick note from someone whose undergrad major was art history: Rene Magritte is surrealist, not post modernist.
A postmodernist artist might appropriate the Magritte image and use it in another context, pairing it with a bunch of other appropriated images. Or maybe a postmodernist would reproduce the Magritte with the text reading, "this is not a Magritte." Something like that. The point would be to get us to think about the way imagery, imagination, and so on in the "postmodern" world is not unique to ourselves but borrowed from elsewhere--particularly the media or somewhere else in the public, mediated domain.
For instance, looking at photojournalistic images of a massacre and instantly having ideas about movies sparked by them could be called a "postmodernist" reaction, since it conflates reality and media. (The other way around--movies reminding us of the real world--would not be "postmodernist" as I understand it).
Surrealism, on the other hand, has more to do with conflating dream imagery and the everyday world.
It's been a while since I studied this stuff, but anyway, it was fun to get a chance to give this little mini-lecture and pretend to be an academic!
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| sally again |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 12:56 PM
PS: However, to say,
I assume different guises
sometimes i am Void and I hear voices
Sometimes I am Sangita
and other times I just see Ramita
Sangita, Ramita, Shunyata
Hey, at the end I am plain old Namita
COULD be called postmodern because of the endless reference to mediated "selves" ... except that to say "at the end I am plain old Namita" would probably not be postmodern because there's a reference to some actual person, a core, which is not a postmodern concept. The photographs of Cindy Sherman get into that whole idea of whether or not we have a self behind our parade of mediated disguises.
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| namita kiran-thuene |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 01:23 PM
Dear Sally,
Thank you for making note of the error. (Ha! You caught me!) In my haste I got all muddled up with post-modernist or is it poststructuralist, or is it deconstructivitist(??) Focault and surrealist Magritte. I was thinking of focault’s book “I am not lying this is not a pipe.” Anyways in my poem I is not really I, if you must know and to say at the end I say “I am … Namita.” Which could mean I became Namita at the time. Saying this, this is just a reaction, I don’t even consider it a poem (not in my dictionary, anyway). I see distortion, here in this page :the ingrained notion about art, representation and logic get destroyed . therefore, can I say this whole GBNC site is a postmodernist? Please enlighten me since I am not an art history major neither am I THE authority in literature. : )
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| sally |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 01:39 PM
I think the GBNC site is poster modernist.
Or maybe surreal constructionist.
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| namita |
Posted
on 19-Apr-01 01:44 PM
: )
i like it!
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