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| ashu |
Posted
on 24-Apr-01 12:35 AM
Biswo wrote:
>A good news is the Discussion was live this
>time [while Biswo was away].It is probably
>because of the stability gained by the
>Discussion(kurakani) after
>more than a year.
I think Biswo raises an important point implicitly.
One of my obsessions is how to get any
Nepal-related institution going strong by
CONTINUALLY attracting fresh talents long
after the founders have left. Having succeeded
in getting The Kathmandu Post Review of Books
WITHOUT myself, I am trying to replicate
it for The Kathmandu Film Archive.
One lessons I have learnt is that for the
institution to go on, it needs to invest -- overtly
or subtly -- on the young and the new ALL THE
TIME.
The point is: people come and go any time, but
the institution must remain, and get better
and better. Only then, we have something of
value.
Many Nepal-related institutions that do well
are usually -- sadly -- one-person shows,
depending on one charismatic leader for everything.
And no sooner does that person leave the institution
than the institution starts to collapse. I have
seen this sort of thing happen again and again
in many Nepal-related institutions.
Little wonder, then, when it comes to institutionalization,
most of us Nepalis are hopelessly weak. I think
we can do better than that, and it's time
our social, political leaders are judged by how
strong an institution they leave behind (by CREATING
"new sets of leaders" who better their work" than what they do there.
Likewise, this kura-kani section too should
NOT be dependent on a few people. People
like Biswo Poudel, Ashutosh Tiwari and others
can come and go all the time -- but the "kurakani"
section itself must go on, attracting fresh talents
and continually replenishing its supply of
discussion topics. [Most of us are aware of
the fate of SCN: which was too wide, and
too centered-around certain posters only! Let that
not happen here.]
And so, as we keep on log into the kurakani section
for entertainment, amusement, information and guff-suff,
let one thing be percolating in our minds: How to institutionalize this Kurakani section so that even when
regular posters come and go, this section
continually attracts fresh talents and makes
them 'stick' to the site?
oohi
ashu
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 24-Apr-01 01:39 AM
Dear Ashu:
I don't know whether I really meant what ,I agree, is evidently implied..I guess my reaction was probably due to a few of my
past excursions when I used to very few new postings(of course,
often by you ).It was not very welcoming to find a site becoming a
one-man show or a two-man show.However, this time the site was
obviously bustling, with a lot of new postings, which is a very
good news.
I think things are going well for Kurakani, something all of us
can be proud of.
Have a good day!
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| ashu |
Posted
on 24-Apr-01 02:26 AM
Hi Biswo,
Yes, it is good to see so many other posters coming
to this site too. And more and more are using their
real names too :-) This is all great.
After all, the last thing any of us would want is
this kurakani section's sort of dying down because of
the departure of one or two people! Hence, my worry
about how to institutionalize VOLUNTARY stuff like
this, even when the idea of institutionalization
sounds like an oxymoron in this case.
A few years ago, while I was posting stuff on SCN,
I used to have those pangs of gnawing self-doubts as
to whether I was wasting time (i.e. being unproductive)
posting stuff.
Then, once, I decided to put my economics training to use.
I actually sat down and did a cost-benefit analysis :-), and concluded that, all things being equal, I actually got a lot
more -- both personally and professionally -- out of
posting stuff than just doing my things quietly.
And so, in Kathmandu and elsewhere, even today, I am often
amazed to meet Nepalis and even non-Nepalis who had followed
my various postings, and remember the contents better than
I did or do!! Of course, having a name recognition, to
some extent, makes my life and work easier in Nepal and
elsewhere :-)
I could go on :-), but let me say that: in this age, when
competence,
knowledge and
networks
are crucial for
professional success in any field, posting CREDIBLE
stuff that gets widely read on the net (or writing for
the public) is one way of maintaining the edge and
ultimately casting an influence on a large segment
of fellow Nepalis.
Of course, if the whole process is also ENJOYABLE and
FUN, so much the better.
I just wish that many other Nepalis too, time-permitting,
would take advantage of all this for their own gradual, yet unplanned, PROFESSIONAL success.
oohi
ashu
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 24-Apr-01 03:14 AM
Dear Ashu:
Glad to learn about your past experiences. (Hey, what is this
scn?)
Since I live in a city where Nepalese population is very low, this
site served me as an interface to interact with other fellow
Nepalese in USA and other places. I think several other Nepalese
can also benefit in the same way or in some other ways.
Oh,may be I should say one thing. I am not a great web surfer
and I still prefer movies(gosh!) and books to internet because of
its addictive side effect.However, I went to gbnc website first
looking for some active Linux User Group of Nepalese students,
even though I didn't have any inkling whether such group existed
or not.(I still don't know actually and I started using
linuxdoc.org for my purpose later) Is there active Unix User Group
in Kathmandu? (Its name is likely to be KLUG for Kathmandu Linux
User Group if convention is followed) I guess I can benefit from
such group. I am often very frustrated in this thing.
Wish you all the best in your KFA things. I recommend 2 movies
"The grapes of wrath" and "The treasure of Sierra Madre" , if you
haven't seen them yet. They are two of the best movies I've ever
seen.People will probably enjoy them very much.
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 24-Apr-01 12:24 PM
Namaste Biswoji and Ashu dai,
Thanks for the info on Chinese PMs visit, and ashu dai for reccomending Kissinger's biography.
Now, Biswoji
SCN was a usenet group on Nepal. It was a good discussion board and people from all over would come there to discuss/fight. The issues we discussed were mainly political. I remember having good discussions on nationalism, nepal-india relations etc with ashu dai and other bidwan nepalis from Japan, Australia and America (looking back I think I made the biggest mistake of my life by not posting messages there using my NAME. It was like not taking responsibilities for my views/postings, and no one would take my postings seriously) That's why I am using my real NAME here. Let's be REAL when dealing with REAL issues, hoina ta?
SCN had many posters, half of them used their real names, the otehr half would come in weird nicks and bash everyone. Then we had an Indian guy named Sid-harth bombarding our newsgropu with his nonsense. And it seemed liked our newsgroup was a cyber-fighting ground for Indians and Pakistanis.
Then , one by one nepali posters disappeared. Some came to this board, some just disapperead, ending what could be the first nepali cyber institution to share tita-mitha kura.
Trailokya
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