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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:17 AM
Last night, I was online at 10. I was checking this site out .. and all of a sudden I get this security alert that says " Your computer is showing some IP address, Someone might be attacking you computer" IT scared the shit out of me. If I was in nepal it would have been no big deal, but I am in America. Getting you computer hacked is no small shit out here. SO i was scared that i shut down my computer. Later I took the risk of login in and updated my antivirus software , but it didn't detect any virus in my PC. Now I am no genius in the field of computers, however I know in order for someone to be inside my computer and to take over the root , that person has to implant a virus in my computer.. and as far as i can remember i haven't downloaded anything that might contain any viruses except for the picture that i posted in my other thread. ANd i haven't visited any unsecure sites.. I don't know how safe sajha.com is. ? To the SIte Admin- Can someone get hold of my IP address from this site.? If that is the case noones safe. NOw if this shyalu or whoever person it is. IF that picture did contain any virus.. I swear that i will get back to you. To all the computer geniuses and engineers who login to sajha.com. DO you have any idea what happened to my computer? Do you think that somebody was in my computer when i got that security alert. Help me out.
Peace
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| another worried user |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:31 AM
I bet that it has to be one of the ppl from sajha.com . I have heard that too many times that they track of your IP address, it has not happened to me yet. I request to the admin that what is the reason behind tracking the IPs.
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| IT Guy |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:44 AM
It seems like you guys might need a lesson in IP-101
IP means internet protocol. IP is required to use the internet. When you visit any website, the website knows your IP since that's how the internet works. All websites track your IP since in order to run statistical reports they need to turn webserver logs on.
Now, if this fact bothers you, you might as well un install your browser and never visit another site again.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:45 AM
The best way to protect your computer is to install a personal firewall. They have different firewalls for personal computers and are quite cheap(may be even free).
It's possible to hack your computer without installing a complicated virus. A simple Ftp pinging programs could also have alerted your IP security. Anything could've happened, just go with the suggestion and install simple firewall. U don't have Morphues or similar music downloading program do u?
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:57 AM
hey IT guy, I do know waht IP means. alright. i do have knowledge on general terms of computers. but there are stuffs which i don't know.. i know if we wanna be safe then the best thing we can do is never be online.. but u know that is not possible.. I just want to make sure that Sajha.com. is safe enough, cuz i don't want my identity stolen and nor do i want the information on my computer stolen. And for the past two weeks, weird things have been going on in my computer, My history folder is always empty, All the temporary internet files instead of being in the TEmp. INt. files folders are always outside in c:\windows. and the most weirdest of all is. that the file c:\windows\cookies\index.dat which cannot be deleted can be deleted in my computer anytime i want. I so dont like it. Similarly, my computer has become really slow while 90% of the system resource is free. Moreover my internet connection has been slow for a week now. it takes me like 2 and half minutes just to load any usual website. I so don't like this.
Peace
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 09:59 AM
thanx dwi I was thinking of firewalls , but i don't know where to get them. I will look it up in the net. but i am too scared to log in from my PC.
and i don't have any music downloading software. I installed Real Jukebox two weeks ago .but it is safe cuz i installed it from a Cd. andmy cousin who used the same Cd doesn't have any problems.
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:03 AM
More things, including above posted by others, you can do is keep your machine updated with all the recent updates available from the Microsoft site ( depending upon your operating system). These also include security updates that include IE security patches.
Another thing , if you have NAV , short for Norton Anti Virus, installed on your machine, check the one that says ' Enable file system real time protection".What this does is it will notify immediatley if you have any virus that just got to your machine.
I love the Firewall idea because that is what I have also. If you connect to the internet through DSL or Cable line, it is a must. If you just dial in than ' Internet security' from Symantec is another good option. Either way you have to protect your machine.Do nto use some crap like ' Black ice' . That is just an annoyance.
Also vistit Microsoft.com as frequently as you visit SAJHA.
I hope this helps.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:10 AM
thanx dhumbasse
I use Trend Pc-cillin. I don'tknow how good it is. But i had NAV before and it wasn't any good. I just use my computer to log in to sajha. hotmail. nepalnews. msn messenger and probably a few other sites. do you think i should buy one of those firewalls or one of those free firewalls should suffice. I found a list of free firewalls in the net. DO you think any of these should be of help. 1) Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF). 2)ZoneAlarm (new ver 3.0) . 3) Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (new). 4)Tiny Personal Firewall . DO you think any of these are good enough. If so which one would be the best.
peace
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| suna |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:19 AM
CALM DOWN
those are paid ads. pop ups. You can see those messages on Yahoo.com as well. So don't panic.
FYI: Sajha is run by only one person and there are NO SAJHA PEOPLE.
Kasto paranoid yaar.
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:20 AM
ZOne alarm is good enough in your case. But remember , when you implement this and try to access some LAN ,there might be some issues before you can successfully logon due to the security applied by the LANs. In that case you gonna have to disable the ZOnealarm thing. I do not know if you need to access such a network, which most people do when they are working from home.
The anti- virus software you have is good enough, I am used to with NAV so I like it and do not trust the other ones. I used to use Maccafee before. Different people, different choices. if I were you I would go, spend about 40 dollars and get NAV 2002 version. Again it is your choice.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:23 AM
you gotta be paranoid sajha. what if something really happens. you know this is america. i just don't wanna take anything lightly. alright. may be they are pop ups.. but i just want to make sure.. prevention is better than cure. thanx for letting me know aneeways.
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| Santosh |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:29 AM
Seems like u got virus on ur PC, coz that really slows ur PC n screws ur files.
You might have to scan ur PC, download patches/upgrades frm microsoft site.
If it doesn't work, then format ur hard drive. good luck
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:33 AM
i did scan my pc last night. but the antivirus software says there are no viruses. there is nothing i can do about it. but then my computer freezes and then it says my system is busy. and my screen goes all blurry and shakes .. i just don't like it alright. yea May you are right. i should format my hard drive .. i did consider that too , but you know how that works.. all my work and my files. .well if nothing works then i will eventually format my hard drive
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:36 AM
Santosh,
Formatting hard drive, partitioning, and reinstalling the operationg system would be quite burdensome for someone who knows less about the viruses . Let us not go that far unless the situation demands, as frank said he ran his anti virus software and nothing was found.
I think the best bet at this time juncture for frank would be what we have discussed above.
PEACE ................................
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:03 AM
Frank.
I am telling you a story of my friend who lives in phoenix. He has a nice machine, Hp built, new one. Not too long ago, he got a virus through email. So his machine started being slow, and gave all kinda error messages. Then he got another email which was sent from his machine to me , which got bounced back to him. He did not send that email to me as he recalled. The email read said ' Unable to deliver .............and an .exe file'. Not knowing what was going on he had called me. I told him if he had that bounced email . he said yes and he read it over the phone. It sounded like one of the virus files( do not remember the exact name at this time) and I did a search on the Symantec.com site and found the matching name which was a virus that went into his pc, and started sending emails to all people that were listed on his address book.
On the same site I found the removal tool of that particualr virus and told him to goto Symantec.com and to download the removal tool. he did and ran the tool and his pc came back to normalcy.
One thing to note, he had anti virus software called PC-cillin, updated one, and when he scanned his hard drives for viruses it reported ' No virus found' But there was virus, indeed. This is why I do not trust the pc cillin things. I hope this clears my point of needing a good anti virus software.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:09 AM
DHumbasse
I basically understand how viruses work. And as far as I can recall I havne't opened or downloaded any .Exe files. ANd i don't think any members of my family has done it either. The only thing i suspect is the picture that i copied from this site. Do you think it is a trojan horse. I hate trojans. I had trouble with them when I was in Nepal too. well thanx about the Pc-cillin .. it helps.. yea i think i should get another anti-virus software. I have used NAV before I don't like it much. I have used Mcafee too it's ok but it is slow. Well i have decided to download a firewall. but since the virus is already in my computer do you think installing a firewall be of any help
Peace
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| Nepali Boka |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:13 AM
hmm interesting.. u said u got an alert that said "Your computer is showing some IP address, Someone might be attacking you computer". what program gave u that warning cause as far as i know, windows itself doesn't do that. and as far as protecting ur comp goes, i suggest u download or buy zone alarm pro. its the one i use. i think its the best firewall for home users. well some ppl might disagree cause they have their own choices but i find zone alarm really good. and also get norton antivirus. its the best virus scanner. but u said ur comp is really screwed up and stuff. so i strongly suggest u format and reinstall windows. then install firewall and anti virus software. that way, u can be sure that ur computer isn't already compromised. oh by the way, MAKE SURE that u have the latest version of Internet Explorer with LATEST security patches. goto microsoft's site and download the latest patch for Internet Explorer. cause it contains some serious bugs and it can even let someone do stuff with ur computer that u dont want them to do. la ta good luck
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| DWI |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:14 AM
fRank,
Most probably you have nothing to be afraid of at this moment as other people said.
But installing a firewall is not a bad idea, as long as it doesn't become a cause for crashing your computer. I don't think it should have any problem with your computer, you almost certainly are not in LAN.
As Dhumbasse endorsed it, I too would recommend Zone Alarm.
As far as your slow and crashing computer is concerned, there are few things we can check it up for. Let me know you are concerned about its slowness and if it crashes frequently, I will then post some remedies up.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:17 AM
thanx nepali boka. I would do that if nothing else works as i said b4 cuz i dont ' like formatting my hard drive . I have F***** up my computer a lot of times trying to format. Well i was using AMerica''s no 1 ISP .you know what it is.. it is supposed to be pretty safe.. but u know there are some geniuses with a really wicked brain. thanx for the suggestions. and i will be logging off now. cuz i have to go to work and i probably won't be back until late at night .so i will check new messages. till then thanx a lot to everybody.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:18 AM
Thanx DWI i willl do that as soon as my computer crashes again.
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| lovaboy |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:27 AM
Clean out your temp folders to delete cookies so that it improves your down load time.
I think you are getting too paranoid. America has nothing to do with computer crashing or being hacked. What I suggest you do is bring a guy that is savvy enough to figure out what's going on.
Unless you have some priceless data no-one is going to hack your computer. However, do not open any attachments. That's the only thing you could do to!!
good luck!
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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:38 AM
Hi fRank,
Viruses require executable files to embed itself. Even though a recent case of JPEG virus was reported, viruses till now are not capable of transfering themselves though picture files.
Viruses are written to avoid anti-virus software. Anti-viruses generally recognize virues though their signatures. So generally anti-viruses cannot catch new virues and even some of the mutated old ones. Updating an anti-virus software is only part of the solution.
Also virus can hide in the boot area which are not checked by the anti-virus. It is only when those virus attempt to run do the anti-virus have a fairly good chance of catching them.
Installing fire-wall is one of the solutions. However there is really no protection against a new good virus or a worm.
Also you said you 'think' that your family didn't download anything suspicious. Now we all know how BIG the difference between 'thinking' and being the fact is specially when it comes to the cause of computer problems.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 01:28 PM
Biruwa. well incase youdin't know there are viruses that can get into your computer thru pictures i.e wallpapers.. which is usually in bmp format. well i am pretty sure my family members didn't download anything.
I am home again. and I have downloaded a firewall and it's working ok.
But the thing that amazes me is how in the hell did my computer connection become so fast. for a week now or even more .. my internet connection was slower than a snail. it usually took me like 3 or 4 min to open sajha.com. and now after talking to you guys my connection suddenly goes whooosh.. and I am able to open sajha.com in less than 20 seconds... now i just don't get it. don't tell me it could have been co-incidence. .NO i dont' think so. I just don't like the way things are going around. God bless me.
Peace
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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 01:59 PM
Please read:
http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020624jpegvirus/
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 02:22 PM
Frank,
Mero bicharma tyo ketiko sarap ta lagena tapaiko computerlai. Sabaile jathabhabi bhane tyo bicharalai, Bhalu, 2cent whore. Katai tyo keti ramro, battis laccyanle yukta bhayeki, Battisputalima nai ghar pani bhayeki hola, ani tyesko sarap lageko jasto cha. Just kidding.
I like to know exactly what message did you see on your screen when you were alerted by the problem. That problem just cannot be a virus but maybe something more. Like Biruwa said, the virus is an .exe file that sits on your hard rive, MBR and does all the trick. May be this time it was a virus; and actually was assisting someone to run applications or programs, which took your CPU time and made your computer slow as you and the other person who had the virus inflicted on your machine were tying up the pc resources. Perhaps, since you have the firewall running, the other user is not being able to get to your machine and , thus , it is fast. Just speculating the problem.
hami sabai dekhi tyo Virus darayeko pani hunasakcha...lol
By the way what do you use to get to internet . Broadband or Dial-up?
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| well-wisher |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 06:19 PM
hey..who is America's no 1 ISP again ?
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 10:40 PM
Lol dhumbasse you can be really funny at times. .haha. may be it was tyo gal in the pic ko sarap.. k thaha haina.. well i ain't the one who called her a whore but whoeva she is sure doesn't deserve it. I don't even konw what in the hell I was thinking when i Posted it. .i posted it at late night. iwas damn sleepy .. ani as soon as i posted it I was like what the- what in the hell did i do.. ? well but it was too late.. tara who eva she is she is nice i mean she is beautiful.. aight.. tara she kinda looks hispanic.. nepali and hispanic ppl sometimes do look alike. there is this gal that lives next door and she is hispanic. .tara she looks like a Nepali gal k. .when i first saw her I was like wow.. a nepali gal in this part of town.. cool.. tara then i heard her speak in spanish and i was like ma bad luck..
aneeways my computer is runnig aight. i hope my firewall is working and noone is in my computer right now. .cuz i sure would be damned if someone is inside my computer and smiling n reading this.. May b the guy got scared cuz i asked you guys for help.. lol. .
aneeways thanx for helping me out. cuz last night it scared the shit out of me. WHen i hit some button at the end of that security alert I got directed to an anonymous site and that is when I shut down the computer. I checked it out today cuz i remembered that i had been directed to a website. I checked it out and instead of a webaddress or IP address , it was blank. and i mean blank.. I had been directed to not only one website but two of them. well i guess i will never be able to figure it out. I really don't remember the entire message but as far as i can recall it said " YOur computer is showing some IP address , someone might be attacking (or some other word) your computer.." As soon as i got it went ballistic.. and I use dial up.
To well wisher- it's not who is America's NO. 1.. it is what is AMerica's No. 1. .go to google.com. or yahoo.com. and search for it. .
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| DWI |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:22 PM
Strange coincidence.
I was waching TechTV today and one caller asked about possible hacking on his computer. The experts in the show advised him to first get an Anti Virus and then get FireWall protection. Strangely enough, they also recommended Zone Alarm.
Coincidence? I think so. Goto techtv.com, them still might have that info there.
America's no 1 isp? AOL still. Oh how I hated it.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 30-Aug-02 11:39 PM
I still hate AOl dwi.. .. haha .well that was indeed a coincidence.. ... lol. i hope that guy wasn't me.. haha.. well now my computer is running ok. .that to my surprise and amazement and any other word that might suit..
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| SOULFREE |
Posted
on 31-Aug-02 09:14 AM
Americas #1 ISP is AOL but everyone loves ROADRUNNER. RoadRunner is the best.
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| fRank |
Posted
on 31-Aug-02 09:21 AM
But I don't get roadrunner where I live.My cousin uses it. she says it's really cool..
Alright I got one more question now. Is it possible for a hacker to get into my computer even if I have a firewall and change the contents or any other parts of the firewall or even delete a few files.. Cuz i turned my computer on and I found out that 2 of the files of my firewall were missing. SO I just downloaded another firewall.
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| well-wisher |
Posted
on 31-Aug-02 01:30 PM
damn..you ARE paranoid, frank !
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