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| Ritu |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 11:39 AM
Will Maoists win the War? They may win the war. If they won the war, what would be the future of Nepal?
Any thoughts are welcomed:
Ritu
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 12:08 PM
Ritu jee...
Yes, it may seem like they may win the war for now. At least, that's what it seems like after the recent successful attacks by the Maoists even after 9 months of emergency.
What will happen if they win the war is a totally different issue in which we would not be able to draw conclusions even after lengthy debates--too many souls, with too much emotions and various faltering ideas that are doomed to fail...
Even though I am sympathetic towards most of the original demands put forth by the Maoists (I am sure you can still find the 40-point demand made by the Maoists soemwhere if you are interested), I firmly believe that they have chosen the wrong path to achieve their goals. Their ends do not justify their means.
This I can assert with much certainly for now: The policy of the government has failed so far. If they cannot subdue the Maoist forces even after 9 months of emergency rule, something must have gone wrong somewhere, either militarily or otherwise. And the sad fact is that the government still refuses to realize that they have failed, much less admit it.
If this goes on for much longer, I am afraid the Maoists may win the war, and a dangerous precedence would be set in our society--it will prove to the people that violence can achieve their goals. This cannot be allowed to happen. What can be done? Frankly, I am at loss myself thinking of solutions; but all I know for now is that the government must rethink and possibly completely overhaul it's policy that has failed us in the past. Change directions, they must. And it must be done quickly...immediately!
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| Ritu |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 02:15 PM
Let's forget why Maoists are in front line ????
Are we all are going to fight against Maoist? Are we ready to die as they do? Can govt. kill all the villagers in Sindhuli? No. govt. can not kill all the villagers in any case. So, what is the possible solution of this conflict? Can all the parties in Nepal be against of Monarchy? Hopefully, yes. (except, RPP, but it will Jay Jay kar, while Prachand rule Nepal, no shame for them). Do we have to kill our brothers and sisters to bring Maoists in a Main Stream? No, we do not and there is a huge possibility. We do not have to kill anyone. Just let the Family of Gyanendra have one way ticket to one of the European country for rest of life. This may save our brothers and sisters. We can have parliamentary political system with a president as in India. This is my thought for resolving the problem in Nepal and saving lives of brothers and sisters in Nepal.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 02:58 PM
I beg to differ.
The solution to this complex problem, agravated by the government's decision to quell violence with added violence, cannot be as simple as removing the royal family from the arena. That would create additional mayheim to a situation already fledging into a full-blown war. Playing the blame game will not help us anymore--we have to rise above the "finger pointing" syndrome and look at the root causes of the conflict if we genuinely desire to solve the crisis at hand.
No matter whoever comes to power, be it the NC (either faction), the UML, or even the Narayanhiti rajdurbar, we need the government to address the key reasons why people choose to embrace violence, i.e. an overwhelming mass of frustration arising from poverty, inequality, deprivation from education and opportunity, injustice etc.
Once again, let me reiterate my earlier point that the violent path the Maoists have chosen not only destroys the physical well being of a nation, but also undermines their own legitimate goals. In this regard, I believe the use of limited military action by the government was completely justified--we cannot let the forces of violence overcome our society, and must try to quell violence by any means. However, the prospects of military power in a situation like this is limited only to short term suppression of the revolt.
When I think of the solution in longer, permanent terms, I cannot help but beg the government to win back the trust of the people via genuine desire to help exalt the latter's lives. The culture of massive corruption and neglect to the real issues the people are faced with has to be eliminated.
In a nutshell, there are two folds to the possible solution to the present crisis: the military in the short term, and addressing the social ills in the longer term. Thus far, the present government only chose to implement the first, without even trying to glance at the second. Huge blunder. They both need to be implemented side by side, so that the government can be trusted by the people enlarge and, in turn, the people can revolt against the violence of the Maoists. Believe me, if the right person with a genuine desire to end the crisis emerges from the crowd, it will not matter whether he's affiliated with any politcal parties, or the royal palace.
Poonte.
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| Gyan |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 05:48 PM
We need more takers on this...
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| Ritu + Poonte marry |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 07:31 PM
If maoist win, Ritu and poonte Run to Banaras to become sadu and saduni.
If maoist loose, Ritu and poonte will get marry and have lots of baby.
Good Luck Ritu.................
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| RITU+ POONTE_ko_JODI |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 09:57 PM
La...La.....RITU badhai chha..........
oho.. Poonte, ek din ma nai RITU lai kya pattai diyeko......
Hamro, HahooGuru ji le katti try garnu bhayo pattauna lai....
Guru ji lai tod parne bhayo.....:):)
Poonte, Hooneymoon hanna kata jane ni..?
la....la...Poonte, Bhagawan Dega to chhappar fat ke.....!!
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 08:16 AM
Whoever the two of you are...
It is indeed the contemptuos attitudes of idiots like you that smear the wonderful images of the rest of us Nepalis. If you found our discussion of no interest, you could have simply skipped the thread and moved on, like respectful gentlemen, rather than weighing in your "neech" and "dhurta" statements in here. If you could not level your intelligence to the discussion that was present in this thread, I am sure you could have also found some other thread that was more appropriate for your kind of lowly attitudes.
Case rested.
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| The Shrink |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 08:28 AM
The Maoists will NEVER win this WAR. They may win a few battles, but they won't win a war. Nepal's democracy is secure, despite the occasional massacre of security forces. What is certains is that this war will go on for a very long time, let's say up to 2 more decades.
Those who belive that the Maoists are going to win fall into three categories - (1) those who themselves are Maoists, (2) those who are sympathetic to the Maoists and (3) those who have a defeatist mentality.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 08:57 AM
Shrink,
I hope you are right.
But then again, on a second thought: If the war rages on for years, or decades, then the Maoists would have won the war. Remember, winning the war does not entail the physical victory over the enemy alone--it has a lot to do with inflicting damages that are not tangible, such as creating fear and terror. The unbearable costs that they have been inflicting upon the government to fight the war is another. Thus far, they have been successful in doing this. Furthermore, do you really think a country could possibly stand viably after a lengthy civil war? Especially in the case of Nepal, who cannot feed and educate it's citizens properly even in times of peace?
Thus, the question really is not who will win the war. The real question to ponder for everyone right is how to stop this madness ASAP. This is precisely where the government has been failing miserably...to win the hearts of it's citizens and stop the madness, so that they can focus better on development.
Bottomline: I blame the Maoists for the destruction of the country as much as I blame the government for failing to put an end to the revolt.
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