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on 09-Sep-02 02:16 PM
Woke up 3:30 in the morning. Scrolled down the nepalnews webpage, 49 security personnel dead in an attack by the maoist in Sindhuli. I was about to leave when I refreshed the page and lo, an update on an assault going on between the government security forces and maos in Arghakhachi. I had to go to work but what the heck, lets see what this wretched morning has in store to ruin this lovely monday. After few hours, the update was that 59 personnel were killed by the attack of 4000+ maoist.
I was speechless. It took 4000+ ignoramus to kill 59 people whose only duty was to 'serve and protect' unlike them, whose motto seems to be 'seek and destroy'. I deplore you, your leadership and if you were to ever come to take hold of my beautiful little country, I would rather suicide jumping off a cliff than be under your repression. Then, again I am speechless. How long will this go on? How can I explain that this is wrong? It violates the basic principle of natural law, not to hurt others. Come on, your ideology maybe good but the means to your ends in totally unjustified. You're not fighting Taliban here, you're fighting to end the life of a prematurely born democracy, which is striving hard to survive itself. If you had a prematurely born child, would you kill it. My conscience tells me, you wouldn't but after hearing your atrocities, I dare not even listen to your answer.
While you have those hapless, illiterate sheeps that you call 'people's army' to kill people, you yourself live in the security of a palace, send away your kids to foreign lands, amass wealth that outweighs the wealth of a sizeable community. I am very sure, my utterance or protestations will go unanswered but you'd leave the impression on me before hand, how you'd run the country? Gandhi once said, if he were to achieve independence thru bloodshed, he'd reject it. And fortunately, he was able to achieve the independence in some terms of his own. Remember they were fighter against the British, the capistalists, the materialists, the expolitists, the screw everyone so that I can succeed-ists and henceforth. Still Gandhi and the freedom lovers won the seemingly insurmountable task. The means to their ends was very peaceful, too peaceful. Why can't you do that? I mean your so called adversaries are pathetic assinine losers, whom people would replace any day, given the motivation. But the path you've followed has alienated everybody and have turned yourself like a lose cannon on the innocent population. The never ending war, the stagnant war wont end. The only thing that you'll achieve to have is a count of dead bodies. You shame yourself as being the people's people. Nevermind your revolution. The point is, we hate you. We'd never want the swaraj you want us to have. Your revered leader is dead, his policies have failed and people condemn him everywhere. Personally, I hope he's rotting in hell. Hell, If I was your instructor in 'running a country 101', you'd get the lowest grade possible in the course.
Why?????
Save my Nepal.
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on 09-Sep-02 02:37 PM
Jai Nepal.
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| Bhenda |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 02:38 PM
Tehi ta I am very disgusted to hear that the terrorists have better guns then the police...
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Posted
on 09-Sep-02 03:19 PM
I would choose to die with hunger in a land of freedom rather than to
live in a society that BABURAM BHATTRAU dreams of.
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Posted
on 09-Sep-02 03:55 PM
Last evening, in a conversation at a park, an American who had visited Nepal last year declared "Yout got out of that hell hole in time." I was mortified, but lets face it, I did vote with my feet and left.
What we could do with, however, is more clout in the Dept. of State or other international bodies. That may get better results. How about a lobby group ? From the looks of it here, we have enough smart people to make a start.
Costs money too. Perhaps the time has come for all the disparate nepali organizations to have a tete-a-tete on it.
Yes, its going to be a brutal struggle to get the desired results. Yet, can we all afford to be concerened yet mute bystanders anymore?
What will it take I wonder, before that threshold is crossed for us to join the fray. A family member butchered, a house burned or a sister raped?
Just a thought is all. I am grappling with it too. Like each of you, I expect.
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| anepalikt |
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on 10-Sep-02 09:18 AM
I was waiting to see what folks would have to say after your response Czar. But I think the lack of response is more telling of what a majority of Nepalis feel about the situation... that they feel they are not ablle to do much or make much of a difference. I for one wonder what the solution is... how can we stop what is going on? The nature of civil wars are such that without popular support to stop the insurgents/rebels the situation malingers. What are the political alternaties? What will lobbying here in DC achieve? and what did you mean when you said "brutal struggle to get the desired results"?
We can not afford to be bystanders, but what do we need to do is the question?
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on 10-Sep-02 10:38 AM
Being vague wont help. I quote Mark Twain, 'Everyone's complaining about the weather but no one does anything about it'. I guess the situation is not that out of control that there is no solution to it but what's the solution? Start a forum and we'll follow but what 's the forum?
Any ideas.
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on 10-Sep-02 11:42 AM
yeah man! enough of talks..enough of save my country..that sounds derrogative..
lets act...lets actttttttttttttt.phu!
blac_
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Posted
on 10-Sep-02 02:48 PM
Anepalikt,
One specific example would be having the US lean on India to curb the movement of weapons to the Maoists. Possible benefits of this: reduced casualties.
How about increased American investment in Nepal be it in tourism, foresty/agriculture sectors. How about the power sector ?
Our chances increase if we had an effective lobby group in DC. Its worth pursuing. How one forms a pressure/lobby group, its modus operandi etc. aren't things I know, but its not rockets science either.
This is one effective way of being involved in the fight. Just a thought. :)
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on 10-Sep-02 03:58 PM
True, lobbying to get India to be more accountable is a great start. I have also heard of how Moaist are trained by many foreign nationals IN Nepal, including former IRAs and Tamil Tigers. Don't know how true this is, but I have observed some Nepalis abroad who raise fund for the maoists. That too might be a place to look into. That might be as simple as doing a bit of research and then drafting a letter that people can send to the ambassadors of the said countries asking their government to show solidarity to Nepal by cracking down on their own nationals and repatrioting these criminals instead of harboring them.
Also, what IS the Nepali government doing at this point to gain international support do you know? I have not heard much after Deuba's trip to the US and the one to UK which too was cut short.
I think the investment part will take much longer period of regaining trust from foreign investors.
If we want to do some lobbying in DC and visit some senators and the state department or whatever, there are a lot of Nepalis and Nepali well wishers in the DC metro area, so that is a great start.
What about other ideas, folks?
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on 10-Sep-02 04:50 PM
get it? IRAs!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1949484.stm
honest, sahibs, they is just eco-tourists, check they's passports. see? it says "tourist visa".
insane in the sinn fein
insane in the br(it)ain!
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| ghyal nepali |
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on 10-Sep-02 06:10 PM
One of the solutions:
Get India to stop helping the Maoists! If India prevents Maoists from using its territory, and hands over the Maoist leadership (after all that is what India is demanding of Pakistan regarding the Kashmiri terrorists; so it will not be a unfair request to make of on our 'special friendship'.
If Maoists can not use Indian territory and support, the 90 per cent of Maoist power will be gone within 6 months!
The Nepalis in US can try to do this in two ways:
a. Try to lobby the State Department, White House and prominent Americans to put pressure on India to stop the Maoists;
b. Nepalis can protest outside Indian embassy and consulates in all major cities. I am sure Indian government will not like the American public to find out about its shadowy dealings with the terrorists in the region!
Jai Nepal
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| czar |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 09:15 PM
Yes, the Indians are adept at practicing double standards. While they howl about Pakistan harbouring and supporting terrorists, the ruling clique in West Bengal have given succour and safe haven to the Maoists.
Anepalikt and Ghayal both have come up with viable plans of action. When do we start ?
Japan tried to spend their way out of deficits but they did it in dribbles and it didnt work. In the event of a double dip recession there are calls for the US to do the same thing. $100 billion over the next 2-3 years.
Why can't Nepal do the same? Large infrastructure projects may be just the thing, to cause a surge in employment. One way to undermine the grip of the Maos is to provide jobs. A fellow who can make some money is going to be a lot less likely to sympathise with an organization who wants to put him out of work.
Enron, several years ago, under the aegis of the shrewd Rebecca Mark, had come up with an interesting plan for the Karnali project. Convert the excess power to DC (to reduce power loss during transmission) and export it to China ! Thats one way to outsmart the Indians.
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Posted
on 10-Sep-02 09:29 PM
Indian know a stable Nepal is in its own interest, and yet, for various reasons, they seem unable to do the right thing. Hence my thoughts that we need to outsmart them any way we can.
Nepal has to go on the offensive internationally to track down financial support for the Maoists. After all, they are getting their money from somewhere to procure arms.
Any financial whizzes here ?
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 10:01 PM
I disagree that India believes a strong Nepal is good for them. I think India has certain interests in keeping the country destabilized. Especially looking at how Sikkim was annexed and the way they treat some of the northeastern states, I truely wonder. It is interesting though the relationship India has with Bhutan and the role India played in the exodus of Bhutnese Nepalies refugees into Nepal. It is unfortunate that our "democratic leaders" who are "legitamate" and have access to the powers that be in India still have been little more than lackeys to those Indian leaders/parties and have not negotiated support for the coutnry that has made much of a difference.
Also, there were a bunch of Nepalis in Germany who were rallying for the Maoists weren't there? I remember seeing a picture here on Sajha a while back! What about folks like that! It would be interesting to see what can be traced. There might be much to learn from what America has been doing int eh past year since September 11, tracking those haudas (or whatever they are called) who transfer illegal money back and forth between different countries, hidden from the tax man and almost invisibly. I am sure there is a similar system in place.
Adding to what IRAs has already said above, without being zenophobic, or trying to chase away the few tourists who ARE coming into the country, it would be good to track who is coming to Nepal, what they are doing and staying where and how long.
I agree with more jobs and economic opportunities people will be less likely to join. But as for large scale infrastructure project, I would say again, caution. Part of the problem we have in Nepal is that it in NOT the lack of money comign into the coutnry for good things, it is the absolute corruption, lack of accountabiliyt and transparency in how that money is spent! How would that be accounted for even if we get money for projects that create jobs.
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Posted
on 11-Sep-02 12:18 PM
yeah, we can start by protesting outside indian embassies and counsulates around the globe or wherever we can.
that will be huge step forward, instead of sitting infront of monitor and dream of another revolution done by outsiders for us.
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