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| ashu |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 07:44 PM
Hi all,
What follows was sent to me a by a journalist friend in Kathmandu.
I would advise our sajha friends to take this with a GRAIN OF SALT.
Still, since, whether we like it or not, Govinda Raj Joshi is one of our REPRESENTATIVEs, hence a public figure, we all have an interest in what he does or what he is spposed to have done with our public money.
Let us bring charges against GRJ, give him a fair hearing and if found guilty, send him to jail and basically destroy his polotical career. Let his place in in politics be taken by others in his district.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
***************
Immediate attention requested about Govinda Raj Joshi & his illegal wealth
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 17:07:21 +0000
To: akhtiyar@ntc.net.np
Hon. Surya Nath Upadhyay,
Chief Commissioner
Commission for the Investigation of Abuse of Authority (CIAA)
Babar Mahal, Kathmandu Nepal
Tel: 262442, 262515,263801, Fax: 262930
REGARDING: Immediate attention requested about Govinda Raj Joshi
(former Minister and leader of Nepali Congress Party) and his press release
on Satyagraha (Monday, August 26, 2002 or Bhadra 10th, 2059), in which
Mr. Joshi has claimed his eldest son from USA has been helping him
financially.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Mr. Govinda Raj Joshi has been trying to hide his illegal wealth.
His claim is completely false and can not be true for two reasons.
1) I came to USA as a student in 1996 as a student and I know the
USA Immigration protocols very well. Per US Immigration regulation, any
foreign student can not work. Mr. Deepak Joshi (Govinda Raj Joshi
Jr.) was in Student visa until last year. I believe only since last year
he is in a visa, which allows him to work. I do not think that he has
earned significant amount of money!
2) Mr. Govinda Raj Joshi may try to claim that his son earned the
money after school completion. Dear Sir/Madam, in such a tough economy
in USA, I cannot imagine how Joshi Jr. saved so much money to send his dad
in Nepal.
You may know that in USA every one has to pay about 30% tax to the
government and living in this county is very high.
Dear Sir, I have been working in USA since last three years and
have not been able to save enough money to go Nepal and get married with my
fiancé. That is the true reality in USA. And I am sure Mr. Deepak
Joshi (Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.) is in the same boat.
In gist, Govinda Raj Joshi has been using his son to convert his
illegal-money to legitimate-money. This is how it works. First,
Govinda Raj Joshi sends money to Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.’s account in USA and
Govinda Raj Joshi Jr. sends money back to Nepal in Govinda Raj
Joshi’s account. That way Govinda Raj Joshi can claim that the money he has
is a real earning from his son not illegal.
Kindly, look into these matters. Please write to USA Internal
Revenue Department for total earning of Mr. Deepak Joshi (Govinda Raj
Joshi Jr.) since he came to USA six years back. That will clarify where the
money is coming from, and who is earning how much.
We have been very excited by the actions your office has taken
against the corrupt people. Please go after these corrupt past/present
Ministers and other high profile officers. They are the one to blame for
present sad economic/political outcome.
Besides above mentioned two things please pay attention to
following issues or people’s account, which Govinda Raj Joshi has been using
to hide his illegal wealth.
1) His Daughter, who is presently in USA, and her in-laws. I
believe they are from Chitwan. When Joshi was home minister he
provided very expensive property to his daughter’s in-law family in Nawalparasi.
I believe, Mr. Joshi has also given a 85 Lack worth house as a
dowry to her.
2) His Daughter-in-law and her bank account.
3) His New house in Tanahun. He built a very expensive house in
Damauli in Late 90’s
4) His another house in Baneshwor, KTM. However, Mr. Joshi claims
that the house is not his and belong to his relatives. It is another
lie. It's valued is over 90 Lakh.
5) His jeep which cost 50 Lakh min.
6) He sent his eldest son to Philippine in Self finance for education. We
have heard him saying many times that the eldest son’s expenses
were over three hundred dollars a month.
7) He sent his youngest son to India, Kathmandu University, and now
Australia in self-finance.
8) He spent 15 lacks (min.) in his youngest son’s wedding.
This is just a small list, which any one can see.
Dear sir/Madam we do not have to a rocket sceientist to know how
much Mr.
Joshi has earned since he came to power. Kindly take my suggestions
positively. Finally, I am sorry for writing such a long letter.
Thank you very much!
CC:
Royal Nepalese Embassy in Washington DC, USA
Royal Nepal Permanent Mission to the UN
Embassy of United States of America
Jana Astha (News Paper)
Bimarsha (News Paper)
Deshantar (News Paper)
Dharana (News Paper)
Drishti (News Paper)
Nepali Times (News Paper)
Gatibidhi (News Paper)
Kantipur/KTM Post (News Paper)
Satyagraha (News Paper)
Spotlight (News Paper)
Nepali Congress (Political Party)
Transparency International
Anti-Corruption Network for Transition Economics
World Bank - Anti-Corruption
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 08:04 PM
The letter had following line:
"First, Govinda Raj Joshi sends money to Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.’s account in USA and
Govinda Raj Joshi Jr. sends money back to Nepal in Govinda Raj
Joshi’s account. "
--
I think transfer of money to GRJ's son's account from GRJ is not essential,
because there are 100s of Nepalis who send money via HUNDI, in Japan
and in USA. I am not sure about USA, but, in Japan , those who are in
overstay, can not send money to Nepal via Bank Transfer, because they
need to show address (registered or PAssport with valid visa) . Its legal
requirements. Thus, what they do? There are some groups who collect
money from overstay peoples and transfer it via Hundi. The biz. peoples
or politicians or corrupt govt. officers in Nepal pay money to the
relatives of those in overstay in Japan. And, the biz. peoples get
dollars or Japanese yen in Japan, thus there is no need of thinking
of transferring dollar via immigration or custom... which if not paid
well, has high risk of losing it if caught red hand. ... And, I suspect,
someone close aid of GRJ might be running HUNDI biz. where DRJ
collects money from similar (as in Japan) Nepalis and send money to
Nepal via Hundi and DRJ saves it as legal money in his bank account,
with the help of some lawyers and CA who knows how to use the
loopholes to make illegal money to legal money. One of them that
indian movie makers do in india is they make very cheap movie, and
distribute it to places where they have their chain of cinema halls.
they show in paper that all tickets were sold out, while 90% of the seats
were vacant. Thus, all illegal money is turned to legal money. Similarly,
there can be many tricks. Usually such tricks involve money from services
directly, where individual identity of buyers or service user is not essetial
to be logged in any books. e.g. cinema hall. have a bullshit concert,
with sky racketing ticket .... fund raising programs .... for NGOs ...
I wonder DRJ might show such lucartive tricks to prove his father's money
as legal withou making any to and fro money transfer. I am sure they
won't be doing bank to bank transfers, but, mouth to mouth and hand
to hand using telephone lines. .....
Hundi could be the most probable tric they used.
HG
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| arnico |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 08:51 PM
Without trying to downplay or otherwise impede the overdue crackdown on illegally acquired wealth in Nepal, and without trying to claim that anything written is not true, I would like to to elaborate on some of the GRAINS OF SALT that Ashu mentioned as he quoted the anonymous letter... points that weaken rather than strengthen the case against GRJ as made by the anonymous writer:
>2) Mr. Govinda Raj Joshi may try to claim
>that his son earned the
>money after school completion. Dear Sir/
>Madam, in such a tough economy
>in USA, I cannot imagine how Joshi Jr. saved
>so much money to send his dad
>in Nepal.
...
>
>Dear Sir, I have been working in USA since
>last three years and
>have not been able to save enough money to
>go Nepal and get married with my
>fiancé. That is the true reality in USA. And
>I am sure Mr. Deepak
>Joshi (Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.) is in the
>same boat.
>
I don't know what the amounts of money are that are involved (and that makes a difference), but I think it is a really weak argument to say "look, I can't earn that much so how could anyone else?" Hey, I know of some MIT alums who made $75 million within less than two years of graduation (starting a software firm and then selling it). Do we know what GRJ Jr. does for a living?
>
>I believe, Mr. Joshi has also given a 85
>Lack worth house as a
>dowry to her.
>
>2) His Daughter-in-law and her bank account.
>
>3) His New house in Tanahun. He built a very
>expensive house in
>Damauli in Late 90’s
>
>4) His another house in Baneshwor, KTM.
>However, Mr. Joshi claims
>that the house is not his and belong to his
>relatives. It is another
>lie. It's valued is over 90 Lakh.
>
The issue with property is not what it is valued at today. The issue is how much it cost when GRJ acquired it. If he invested wisely, he may have picked up a prime ropani of urban land in Kathmandu for 500 rupees four decades ago or for for 20,000 rupees two decades... and that might be worth multiple crores now. No other investment would have given him as high a return as land.
He might also have built an expensive house after selling a plot of land somewhere else.
OWNING is not a crime. What is a crime is acquiring wealth through illegal means. What matters is not WHETHER a politician owns a certain amount of property, but how he or she acquired it.
Let us not forget that in our enthusiasm for cracking down on politicians who we hold responsible for many of the plights of our country.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 09:31 PM
Arnico: Land in Kathmandu for 500 rupees four decades ago or for for 20,000 rupees two decades.
--
In 2036, the small 2 paisa (half of ana and 1/32part of 74feetx74 feet (1 ropani))
land just infront new road pipal ko bot (the house in corner at galli to Ranjana
and new road ) was Rs. 4 lakh. Why this statistics? In 2036, GRJ was head
master in Tanahu, wearing polyster ko pant udhrera haatle silayeko .... You
can imagine his income i.e. head master ko talab at that time was : 700rupees
including all bhatta. Dollar Price: Rs. 11 per dollar. (How I remember :
An european wanted a TEXWOOD washed jeans jacket that I was wearing
, and I sold him on 40 dollars, the middleman who took that 50dollar note from that
tourist, to pay me Nepali rupees equivalent to Rs. 40x11. right in indrachowk).
...
A piece of land purchased by a relative in 2032 (salary of headmaster about
Rs. 500, of ministry secretary about Rs. 800) after Pokhara Airport gave them
compensation, cost Rs. 32,000 in thahiti, now the montly rent they get is
Rs. 50,000 or more. In fact, a great investment. ... But, I wonder what
resource he had to buy any land in KTM if s/he was not well paid like
my relative whom Pokhara Internatoinal Airport site ...was lottery.
A piece of land in Baneswor area, bought by pilot known to me, was Rs. 50,000
for 16ana.
A piece of land I bought in 1995, was @Rs. 4,000,000 per ropani, The most
expensive season. It was in CDO Tole. Well, tamshuk price only @Rs. 400,000/r
only 1/10th of what I paid. Still very expensive for me. I was one of the few
Nepalis (until then) who got world most expensive scholarship for students.
I could not dare to buy not even 4 ana. Well, fellow Nepalis whose husband
and wife both worked from 10am to 12pm, without attending classes, earned
money just to buy double of mine, because they were on private funding.
Why this example? As a student, if you work in others biz., then, its hardly
easy to earn money to buy 1 ropani ... in 3 or 4 years of stay in Japan
one of the highly paid country for parttime students ....
Now, the land that I bought in 1995, cheaper that the price I paid. Forget about
my interest rate, even my original payments are not refundable at this time.
Thus, land purchasing in 1995 to till 1999 was worst game in money making
biz. So, GRJ can not claim that his land price gone sky racketing. ... Lets not
forget the trend in KTM.
Well, in I bought a piece of land (as you know that 3+ ana is hatti ko mukh ma
jira like land in KTM,... you can hardly turn left and right ... so I have to
buy anotehr piece, Willing to sell the old one if get price including interest,
which is never going to happen in my life. Lets hope grandson will be happy
if he gets 3+ ana in CDO Tole Baneswor). In 2001, the land outside ring road
was Rs. 2,600,000 per ropani. ....... Now, I am bankrupted. My 10s years
of saving in most developed country with best salaries scholarship/ fellowship
and salaries. ...
How can I get satisfied that GRJ'S son who looks to be dumb (in
professional knowledge to make millions of dollars from IDEA shoping), ...
Does he own any patents? Intellectual Properties, license like MS. P. Shah.
Probably, know? So, how are they going to prove that a normal Salary man whether
in Nepal or around the world, can make millions of dollars in just a few year?
What speacaility had DRJ ? thats very interesting to hear. .... Lets hear their
hue and cries.
"Since I could earn, how could he earn?" makes logic as long as s/he can not a show
proof that he is special IDEA SHOPPER, owns patents, intellectual properties, owns
copy rights in hot cakes .... Without this, GRJ Jr. has no way to prove that his
earnings are legal and fair. "Since I could earn, how could he earn?" statemetns
is very important witness to CIAA. We need witness, and such witness should be
noted and made publicly available.
HG
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| sucharya |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 09:59 PM
I think the anonymous letter makes much sense and is worth more than the save-the-corrupt cynical views.
After reading GRJ's clarification and claim that he received money from his sons (working in US and Australia), I was also confused that if it was true!
First, the anonymous letter, clarify that DRJ was a student until a year back and it should be a matter of common sense to guess how much a student can earn in US market. And if DRJ happened to own some software company or something elase for that matter, GRJ would not have been shy to boast such background of his son.
And second, the letter has most importantly (for a legal case) indicated that the income earn in US is can be varified through revenue department of US. This information should be very useful to most nepalese people who can be easily misled that Nepali in foreign land can make maoney like a note printing machine.
HahooGuru has also made good point as the hundi channel could be a handy tool to legitimize the illigal wealth.
As I read in some other threads that the present ruling structure of state makes is almost impossible to have a zero tolerance to corruption. That's true, the corruption net is like JILEBI connecting everyone in one or other way. One time opinion builders against the corruption, when the anti-corruption wave gains momentum, may suddenly find that anti-corruption wave is not sparing them too. And they then change the tone resorting to all semantics and hair-splitting legal, moral, ethical arguments.
Girija Koirala just did this. Just a day before CIAA nabbed 22 corrupt officials, he was busy in lecturing about the need of severe punishment for corrupt. But when it was his and his doughter's turn, he sensed a political conspiracy behind the CIAA motives.
Sucharya
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| arnico |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 10:42 PM
HG, the prices I quoted were once I am aware of from people I know... not New Road, but within the Ring Road yes.
Yes, the IRS would keep track of taxed income earned by GRJ Jr. But who does it reveal such information to? Would Nepal have to request interpol?
Sucharya... I hope you did not see my posting as hair-splitting semantics. I fully support the anti-corruption drive going on right now. It is long over-due, and there is a large number of people whom we entrusted our future who have betrayed us. However, I repeat my point that looking at assets is an incomplete way of assessing corruption. What is also needed is a look at spending patterns. From the PM right down to that peon at malpot who spends his evenings at the local bhatti, drinking twice as much beer in a month as he could buy with his total income.
The CIAA has just begun addressing the tip of the iceberg, and it is laudable that it is going after the big fish first. However, a lot more will be needed to uproot te culture of corruption and inefficiency that go hand-in-hand in Nepali government offices...
Perhaps this is a topic worth discussing: To what extent are most branches of the Nepali government so inefficient (in delivering services) because the employees there benefit from the existence and maintenance of inefficiencies and obstructions that need "greasing" to clear?
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| SMR |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 10:45 PM
Now this:
Anti-corruption drive, a conspiracy against democracy: Koirala
Post Report
KATHMANDU, Sept 9
Former prime minister Girija Prasad Koirala flayed the current probe into assets owned by politicians as something which reminds him of similar efforts in 1960 when the popularly elected government led by B. P. Koirala was dismissed amid claims of corruption.
Koirala made the statements while addressing party workers at a programme organised by B. P. Thought Academy in the capital Monday.
In the course of his defiant address, Koirala questioned the function and modus operandi of the Judicial Inquiry Commission on Property (JICP), calling its investigations a nefarious move to put an end to the existing system......................
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| Cyrus006 |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 10:46 PM
Although the letter was anonymous, I beleive it did bring up some very important point. I don't know GRJ Jr. personally, but beleive me, if he was such a prodigy people here would know about it. Nepalis have big mouth and like to brag.
I am currently a student here in the US, and as the original poster mentioned, it is impossible to save any money even without the burden of having to pay for tuition at the university. It maybe that GRJ Jr. might have a full tuition waiverand worked 20 hours a week (max allowed by US Immigration Law for foreign Student during school year), there is no way he would have accumulated millions of dollars. People here are struggling to make ends meet, let alone pay for such fancy things as 90lakh houses and 50lakh jeeps.
Of course, there is the slight possibility that the wealth may have been accumulated by legal means, that does not mean the CIAA should not investigate it further. I do beleive that you are innocent until proven guilty, so GRJ should have no problem with the CIAA investigating his wealth, had he acquired it legally. Why be afraid if you have nothing to hide?
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 11:05 PM
arnico:
Yes, the IRS would keep track of taxed income earned by GRJ Jr. But who does it reveal such information to? Would Nepal have to request interpol?
--
If it is correct what I heard recently on this new bill regarding CIAA, that you have
to prove that your income is legal. IF GRJ Jr. brings legal copies of his income,
what can we do? But, if GRJ Jr. can not reveal such income source, then,
he will be in trouble. The new law requires that you prove your income, not the
govt. prove that the money is illegal.If you have money in bank account,
now its your responsibility to prove that its legally earned, otherwise face
punishment. The coin was turned upside, and thats the reason CIAA is
powerful than before. Its GRJ Jr. who should request IRS or whatever is in
US or elsewhere to get the docs. If he fails, no one is going to rescue him.
I am wondering why Arnico ...... is recently portraying this issue full of pessimism....
that you can not prove that GRJ'S money is illegal. Sucharya is right in
saying that as time goes, then, some peoples face here and there feel insecurity,
then, they start semantics .... and finally, want whole drama be aborted
for their own sake. Are we heading towards this?
Yes, after hearing Girija's Bhasad, I feel some and when read some of us
portraying things otherway around. As usual, when something goes
against Koirala family, Koirala shouts democracy is in crisis. . ...
Are they feeling insecured? bcause of your wrong past? At least, Girija
and his daughter, seems so.
At least, I am not. I have valid income source, never sent a yen via Hundi,
sent everything by Bank to bank .... Lets not make propaganda that its not
impossible, its possible everything is possible, if you are dedicated. Just matter
of time and effort.
HG
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| DWI |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 11:34 PM
I discarded this thread thinking GRJ stands for Girija (or Girijey), and thus same old chatters.
The anonymous letter has important information and noticable points. Checking with IRS was a
commendable idea, and Akthiyar people/Nepal Govt. should atleast try if that route is possible.
But I totally agree with Arnico. I don't think he is trying to prove the writer wrong, but saying that what was written, cannot be considered a sufficient evidence or material proof to indict GRJ. First of all the tone of the letter is very unprofessional; I don't want to take it away from the writer but when you're writing to the authority, you shouldn't be telling the story like you're complaining them about your next door neighbours. The points made are interesting and are very powerful but not conclusive enough to arrest anybody. As Arnico brought up the point, this particular sentence:
>Dear Sir, I have been working in USA since
>last three years and
>have not been able to save enough money to
>go Nepal and get married with my
>fiancé. That is the true reality in USA. And
>I am sure Mr. Deepak
>Joshi (Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.) is in the
>same boat.
takes all the seriousness away from the letter.
The effort is commendable, I hope the writers comes with more on this subject.
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| sucharya |
Posted
on 09-Sep-02 11:59 PM
DWI,
>Dear Sir, I have been working in USA since
>last three years and
>have not been able to save enough money to
>go Nepal and get married with my
>fiancé. That is the true reality in USA. And
>I am sure Mr. Deepak
>Joshi (Govinda Raj Joshi Jr.) is in the
>same boat.
I do not think this information is useless by virtue of its informal tone or lack of hard evidence. A complain letter to CIAA need not to be in very official or legal format. What matters most is the evidence to back up the case, and for initial screening the circumstantial evidence is very important.
This kind of complain letters are first screened by subba or section officers. And this information helps the screening officials not to fall in the trap of "one-can-cultivate-dollars-in-US" notion. Most importantly, it helps to examine the argument of Mr. Joshi Sr putting it in right perspective.
Sucharya
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| sucharya |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 12:47 AM
HahooGuru ji,
Not all are so lucky like you and can command an unwavering confidence and moral authority over the issue of corruption. I can sense your “clean background” (financial) through your postings in sajha.com with “not-very-clean-English” :-)). Do not worry “bad English” is far more better than the “bad background”.
While talking about corruption, if you go little deeper, how many middle class people in Kathmandu can boast of not being part of corrupt practice? How many professionals working in Kathmandu duly pay their tax (like you do in Japan)? And how many parents in Kathmandu pay their children’s tuitions to expensive boarding schools or US universities out of tax-paid income? I wonder if people working even for Transparency international or other anti-corruption institutions are duly paying taxes (income tax or property tax). To be a part of a movement of anti-corruption writing, let alone a fighting, one needs to possess a legitimate moral authority.
My dear respected Guru ji, do not hope so high from this anti-corruption halla-khalla. Yes, the corruption society is netted like a JILEBI. Everyone is aware of “Laharo tanda Paharo jharne” risk. Do not you remember how our Ivy-league-graduate Upper-house MP did everything to make the anti-corruption bill tooth-less?
Sucharya
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| Ram Ram! |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 11:06 AM
Hey I know GRJ jr. (DRJ)
I know him since 6 years,i know his struggle,his graveyard work (he used to work in gas station until 6 months back at nights,not owned by him or his father).So,i am just wondering when and how did he earn so much money so that he could send back to nepal?I'm working as a software enginneer since last three yrs but not able to send so much money as i have to maintain my standard here too and life is quite expensive.
I've heard that he got a job a month back(that is also as HTML profesional.So,how could he send sooooo much money?
I'm cent percent sure every penny his father owned is illegal money if he claims his son DRJ sent them to him.He is a lier!He is a corrupt ,ghusya,chor!So,he should resign and go to jail or let me say kept in a jail!
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| Ram Ram! |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 11:25 AM
Guys it's not that DRJ is bad too,infact he is a nice guy but what to do?His father is a lyer,curropt and i can't stop dragging him in this topic since that ghusyaha is saying his son sent him money from US.It's sad and his unluck he has a father like that!
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| 2b |
Posted
on 10-Sep-02 11:32 AM
Hi HahooGuru ji,
You mentioned in your posting above that
"A piece of land I bought in 1995, was @Rs. 4,000,000 per ropani, The most
expensive season. It was in CDO Tole. Well, tamshuk price only @Rs. 400,000/r
only 1/10th of what I paid."
Why was the tamshuk price only Rs. 400,000? Is that to reduce the tax that you have to pay the governemnt? If so, then u were party to deceit. Though not in the scale of that commited by some, and even though such practice is rampant in our country it is still a crime.
I don't mean to damage your reputation or anything. Infact I appreciate some of your postings. I just had this doubt. Please clarify.
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| tc |
Posted
on 11-Sep-02 06:44 AM
please read.
http://gbnc.org/sajha/html/links.cfm?width=800&weburl=http://www.nepalnews.com
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| nepalipan |
Posted
on 12-Sep-02 11:32 AM
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clVtof/ b'?kof]u cg';Gwfg cfof]un] cfkm\gf] cg';Gwfg z'? u/]kl5 dGqLx?dfq xf]Og dGqLsf 5f]/fx? klg rrf{df cfpg yfn]sf 5g\ . clxn] dGqL lr/~hLjL jfUn]sf] 5f]/fsf] rrf{ 5 . o;eGbfcl3 e"tk"j{ dGqL uf]ljGb/fh hf]zLsf 5f]/fsf] rrf{ lyof] . To;f] t Pstfsf lul/hfk|;fbsL 5f]/Lsf] klg v'a} rrf{ x'g] ub{Yof] . To;kl5 Tof] lul/hfsL 5f]/Lsf] klg 5f]/Lsf] rrf{df uP/ 6'+luof] .
uf]ljGb/fh hf]zLsf 5f]/f clxn] cd]l/sf / ci6«]lnofdf sfd u5{g\ . klxnf ToxL+ k9\g] ub{y] . uf]ljGb/fh hf]zL w]/} ;do g]kfnsf] lzIffdGqL klg x'g'eof] . cfkm" lzIffdGqL ePs} a]nf pxf“n] cfkm\gf 5f]/fx?nfO{ ci6«]lnof k9\g k7fpg'ePsf] /x]5 . lzIffdGqL ePsf] gftfn] g]kfnL lzIffsf] cfGb|fe'"8L g} pxf“nfO{ yfxf 5 . o:tf] lzIffk|lt pxf“sf] ljZjf;} 5}g . ctM k9\g 5f]/fx?nfO{ ci6«]lnof k7fpg'eof] .
ca ci6«[lnofd} 5f]/fx? sfd u5{g\ . g]kfndf sfd} 5}g . eP klg s] ug]{ < h'g b]zdf cfkm"h:tf] dfG5] dGqL ePsf] 5 Tof] b]zsf] s] eljio xf]nf < b]zsf] eljiok|lt cljZjf; eP/ g} xf]nf pxf“n] 5f]/fx?nfO{ ljb]zdf sfd ug{ k7fpg'ePsf] . ;'G5', clxn] t pxf“sf] 3/vr{ klg ToxL 5f]/fx?n] k7fPsf] k};faf6 rN5 /] . g]kfnsf] s'g} e"k" dGqLsf] 3/vr{ ljb]zL k};faf6 rln/x]sf] 5 eGbf cgf}7f] nfUg;S5 x'g t o;df nfh dfGg'kg]{ s'/f klg s] 5 / < k"/f b]z t ljb]zL k};faf6 rln/x]sf] 5 eg] Pshgf e"k" dGqLsf] 3/ ljb]zL k};faf6 rn]/ s] g} lalu
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| nepalipan |
Posted
on 12-Sep-02 11:34 AM
Sorry for tha last posting. It was in Nepali. I could not make the Kantipur font work.
Nepalipan
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on 12-Sep-02 12:28 PM
dGqLsf 5f]/f
clVtof/ b'?kof]u cg';Gwfg cfof]un] cfkm\gf] cg';Gwfg z'? u/]kl5 dGqLx?dfq xf]Og dGqLsf 5f]/fx? klg rrf{df cfpg yfn]sf 5g\ . clxn] dGqL lr/~hLjL jfUn]sf] 5f]/fsf] rrf{ 5 . o;eGbfcl3 e"tk"j{ dGqL uf]ljGb/fh hf]zLsf 5f]/fsf] rrf{ lyof] . To;f] t Pstfsf lul/hfk|;fbsL 5f]/Lsf] klg v'a} rrf{ x'g] ub{Yof] . To;kl5 Tof] lul/hfsL 5f]/Lsf] klg 5f]/Lsf] rrf{df uP/ 6'+luof] .
uf]ljGb/fh hf]zLsf 5f]/f clxn] cd]l/sf / ci6´]lnofdf sfd u5{g\ . klxnf ToxL+ k9\g] ub{y] . uf]ljGb/fh hf]zL w]/} ;do g]kfnsf] lzIffdGqL klg x'g'eof] . cfkm" lzIffdGqL ePs} a]nf pxf"n] cfkm\gf 5f]/fx?nfO{ ci6´]lnof k9\g k7fpg'ePsf] /x]5 . lzIffdGqL ePsf] gftfn] g]kfnL lzIffsf] cfGb|fe'"8L g} pxf"nfO{ yfxf 5 . o:tf] lzIffk|lt pxf"sf] ljZjf;} 5}g . ctM k9\g 5f]/fx?nfO{ ci6´]lnof k7fpg'eof] .
ca ci6´[lnofd} 5f]/fx? sfd u5{g\ . g]kfndf sfd} 5}g . eP klg s] ug]{ < h'g b]zdf cfkm"h:tf] dfG5] dGqL ePsf] 5 Tof] b]zsf] s] eljio xf]nf < b]zsf] eljiok|lt cljZjf; eP/ g} xf]nf pxf"n] 5f]/fx?nfO{ ljb]zdf sfd ug{ k7fpg'ePsf] . ;'G5', clxn] t pxf"sf] 3/vr{ klg ToxL 5f]/fx?n] k7fPsf] k};faf6 rN5 /] . g]kfnsf] s'g} e"k" dGqLsf] 3/vr{ ljb]zL k};faf6 rln/x]sf] 5 eGbf cgf}7f] nfUg;S5 x'g t o;df nfh dfGg'kg]{ s'/f klg s] 5 / < k"/f b]z t ljb]zL k};faf6 rln/x]sf] 5 eg] Pshgf e"k" dGqLsf] 3/ ljb]zL k};faf6 rn]/ s] g} lalu
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 12-Sep-02 06:12 PM
Dot makes sense. You are real dot in this thread. Dot makes the differences.
HG
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