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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 04:07 PM
The season will start this week. My Favorite Team is DALLAS MAVS. and Favorite Player is KOBE form LAKERS.
WHAT IS YOURS SAJHATIES ??
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 04:11 PM
Oh yeah, Dallas MAVS
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 05:19 PM
The Mavs and Noitzki will keep scoring and scoring with no defense and finally get swept away by the Kings again:p
Yeah, I ain't the Lakers fan, but they will repeat the title coz big Shaq is with 'em.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 07:17 PM
Avid, loyal Knicks Fan!!!
I know, I know, they are not gonna be in the championships, but atleast I can support 'em. One story after another, plaguing the team..yet its the only team from NY, so u gotta support 'em. I hate NETS!
Ke chha Rusty? They have Knicks vs Celtics tomorrow at 9 pm est on MSG. What do you think the future of Sprewell will be as far as the Knicks organization is concerned?
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 07:43 PM
DWI
Sprewell fined a quarter million just for not lettiing them know he was injured!!!!! Well, he will be out for another six weeks, but there's a hope that he will come back with his strong confidence and strong shooting ability. As a hardcore knicks fan, I ought to be optimistic, but I can see the future of the Knicks this year. It takes about two seasons for the kicks to rebuild the team, I think.
I reside within the celts territory, but I won't wish for their win tomorrow.
I am more curious to see how the McDyess and Baker will make difference in their teams tomorrow.
Rusty
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 07:44 PM
was fined*
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| DWI |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 09:12 PM
That's what I was pertaining to Rusty. The fine imposed upon Sprewell can have a very costly consequence.
Sprewell was reportedly "Unhappy" about the decision. Sprewell is a guy who needs constant motivation to play up-to-his-level. The fine, which is I think one of the highest fine imposed by a team (not even the league), means Knicks can live without Spree and they don't want to see his tantrums. I am sure they didn't fine him because Cablevision is going broke, :)
Sprewell deserved it, even though he is my best player. I hope he puts his acts together. I can't imagine what would happen if Sprewell, Allen Iverson and Anthony Mason were put in the same team. (Oakley has good work ethics even though he has bad reputation.)
Anyways, lets hope the best for the Knicks, they need it oh-so very badly. Go Knicks!
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| AX |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 10:47 PM
It will be really good to see NY Knicks in the bottom of the their division. I think they should have fires Scott Layden and Don Chaney after the last season.
They should have traded Sprewell for Glen 'Big Dog' Robinson. I really think Sprewell is one of the overrated (my fav word) in his position. If you look at his nos. for last can prove that. They should have got Mutombo for Kurt Thomas and Travis Knight. It would have look liked following 10 men roster for Knicks:
PG: Howard Eisley/Charlie Ward 13.0 (projecting for year 02/03)
SG: Allan Houston 20.0
SF: Glen Robinson 18.0
PF: Antonio McDeyes 14.0
C: Dikembe Mutumbo 9.0
off the bench: C Weatherspoon(SF/PF), S. Anderson(SG/SF), O. Harrington(PF/C), F Spencer(C)
I still do think though NY can land premier player like Payton/Van Axel for PG position.
anybody there who agrees with me?
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| AX |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 10:51 PM
About winning the championship, I still think Lakers are the team to beat. I hate lakers though. I think Magics are the team to beat(if G. Hill is healthy). Already excited about the 03 season Free Agency. It will be great to see Jkidd and TD in one team and beat the hell out of Shaq and the Lakers.
Peace
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 07-Oct-02 11:34 PM
hehehe DREAM ON AX BRO :) with white tiger :)
yup, heart still with KNICKS, but HEAD WITH LAKERS!!! mmmm we'll seeeeee!!!
can u get me a ticket for knicks..this season perhaps :P
same ol oys
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 08:24 AM
>>Sprewell is a guy who needs constant motivation to play up-to-his-level.
I agree with DWI. Sprewell must stay in the Knicks.
>>They should have got Mutombo for Kurt Thomas and Travis Knight.
I don't think so. KT is a big back up PF for the Knicks. He can score and he can grab rebounds if he gets enough time to get on the floor. Mutombo's getting too old now. Eastern teams still think he can be a big center for eastern conference and western as well (specially to guard big Shaq!!). He's been getting traded every season to every champ prospect teams in the east. But, I think he can't help any team to win the title.
The Knicks don't need Mutombo!!!
Yeah, they should have tried to get Van Axel......
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 08:48 AM
Mavs Defense is Improving as well as Offense. They can beat Kings easily this time, and I hope they will to Lakers as well.
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| AX |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 09:13 AM
People have been calling his age concern last 4-5 years. He is till the All star calibar Center who can ate least go head to head with Shaq.
About the Kurt, he is still the backup PF. There is only one team that he can be starter and that being KNICKS. He is a good player for 20 mins per game. No question he had a great nos last year with Camby being injured. His no. will decline this year with the presence of Antonio M. I won't be surprised to see him traded this year.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 10:06 AM
News about KNICKS' Sprewell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Sprewell fined $250,000, banished by Knicks for not reporting injury
By CHRIS SHERIDAN
AP Basketball Writer
October 8, 2002
GREENBURGH, N.Y. (AP) -- Sending a costly message that his misdeeds will no longer go unpunished, the New York Knicks fined Latrell Sprewell a staggering $250,000 for failing to report an injury.
Sprewell also was banished indefinitely from the team for failing to notify the Knicks that he broke his shooting hand two weeks before training camp. Vowing an appeal, Sprewell said his relationship with the team had been harmed but that he still wanted to play in New York.
``They talk about being a family but they're not sticking with me,'' Sprewell told the Daily News.
The fine was believed to be the largest ever imposed by an NBA team on a player. The most expensive penalty ever imposed by the NBA was a $500,000 fine against Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban last season for his repeated criticism of officiating.
``The biggest thing to me is that I'm hurt ... so don't kick me when I'm down,'' Sprewell told The New York Times. ``It's not going to affect the way I play. What it's going to do is affect my relationship with the front office. ... But as bad as I think their decisions are, I still love New York.''
Because Sprewell was not suspended, he will continue to be paid his full salary of $12.6 million. The players' union will appeal the fine on various grounds, said executive director Billy Hunter, who called the amount unreasonably excessive.
Sprewell told The Times he was ``absolutely certain'' he would not have to pay the fine.
``I understand their position that I should have told them,' he said. ``I'll give them that. But I really didn't think it was that serious of an injury. And I definitely don't understand how they can fine me a quarter of a million dollars and tell me not to be around the team for something like that. That's excessive.
``If somebody just deserves a spanking, don't bring that whip down on them. That's just petty. ... The whole thing is a farce.''
NBA spokesman Tim Frank said the Knicks were within their rights to fine Sprewell such a large amount. League and union officials said they could not recall a larger team fine.
The collective bargaining agreement allows a team to fine or suspend a player for failing to report an injury, although it does not specify a maximum penalty.
``It's a gray area,'' Hunter said.
Sprewell had surgery last week to repair a broken bone in his hand and will be sidelined at least five more weeks. The Knicks open the season Oct. 30.
``We'll decide when it's appropriate for him to rejoin the team,'' Knicks president Scott Layden said.
Sprewell has a history of run-ins, both major and minor, with his employers. His most infamous episode came when he attacked Golden State coach P.J. Carlesimo during a practice, leading to a suspension that cost him $6.4 million in salary.
After being traded to New York, Sprewell skipped all of training camp in 1999 without explanation. He also was routinely late, often by a half-hour for home games.
He was suspended for one game late last season after he missed a pre-game shootaround in Miami. But after Sprewell met with chairman James Dolan of Cablevision, the team's corporate owner, the fine was cut from $125,000 to $2,500.
The events Monday showed that the Knicks have had enough.
``Frankly, we've tried other things and we're going to try something different this time,'' Layden said, trembling as he delivered the news. ``He's a member of this organization and we want to get it right, OK? We have not been able to get it right so far.''
Sprewell contends he did not know the severity of the injury until he reported to the team last Monday and had his hand X-rayed. The Knicks initially supported Sprewell's reasoning, citing his high threshold for pain. But the team reversed course during training camp last week and told Sprewell to stay home pending a meeting Monday.
The sit-down with Layden, coach Don Chaney and Madison Square Garden executive Steve Mills lasted about 20 minutes.
``I don't understand why they are alienating me from the team,'' Sprewell told the Daily News. ``I know one thing, they don't want me talking to (the media) and getting out my side of the story.''
Sprewell's agent, Robert Gist said the Knicks were diminishing the value of a player they are seeking to trade, although he expects Sprewell to play for the Knicks again.
``I'm concerned about the relationship and healing it,'' Gist said. ``This is a terrible way to start the preseason, telling the public he has to stay away, suggesting that he is a cancer to the other players. How do you amend that?''
Sprewell told the team he hurt the hand when he slipped and fell aboard his yacht. In justifying the team's punishment, Mills pointed out that Sprewell immediately told the trainer about the injury when he reported to practice.
Layden and Chaney insisted Sprewell will remain an important part of the team, which missed the playoffs last season for the first time in 15 years. Sprewell was the Knicks' second-leading scorer, averaging 19.4 points.
``Even with all this ... that they're putting me through I still want to be here,'' Sprewell told the Daily News. ``That will never change.''
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 10:11 AM
Shiva Ji,
We have already discussed about this issue:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 10:35 AM
Rusty, Thanks.
What is the favorite teams of SAJHA CABINET MINISTERS including PRIME MINISTER?? Just curious to know.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 01:46 PM
Shiva Ji,
If I had magic wand, I would turn all cabinet ministers into the Knickerbocker, including PM Sitara ji:p
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 01:58 PM
Hehehee.
Rusty, I wish you gain that magic.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 02:02 PM
Whoops , O Magic... U can't write the whole name...;)
what's going on with Magic? Is Grant Hill healthy?
I am watching the presentation game today
Celts Vs Knicks
Go Knicks!!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 05:06 PM
Rusty ji
Pray keep your magic off my knickerbockkers!!!
Or I might just slam dunk you with a verbal 3 pointer!!!!!!!!!!
For I am Magic Johnson without the "magical aids"!!!! ;)
Yes...I love basket ball!!!!!!! But I stay under the basket (outside the D area)...dhukera....ke....save my energy and stamina!!! :)
The only aid I have now is longer nails! :)
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 05:49 PM
basketball khelna lai ta...tyo basket ta mero lagi aakash ko fal jastai ho...slam dunk garna pani Challenger Space Shuttle ma udera janu parchha...
Hareee bhagwan, kun juni ko paap le ho malai yetro sano banai deko??? Sab jana basketball ko kura garda afu chahin kuna ma basera sapana dekhnu parne...(thachakka basera basketball lai angalo mardai)...
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| DWI |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 06:17 PM
It sure feels good to see more posting on Sports on Sajha..Why do we have so less sports fan in Sajha?
About Mutombo trade with Kurt, I heard that the price tag did played the factor this time. The Cablevision stock has plummeted down and thus when GM Scott Layden tried to make a trade for costly Mutombo (Thomas is one of the most economically sound player in the team), the ownership turned him down.
Would that trade have been good? Yes and NO (a big NO). I agree with AX, in that the trade would have been more fruitful for the Knicks this season than having Kurty here. But everybody knows Knicks are not going to the Conference Final, even with Mutombo this year. Besides, Knicks do have the caliber to goto Playoffs with Kurt (w/o Mutombo).
I agree with Rusty primarily. Mutombo is getting older and has far less years than Kurt. He is not a good player to build a team around, because of his age. Kurt gives more for the bucks that he takes and he is a dirty player (Mutombo plays a little, well, sissy). Knicks, under Cheney, are supposed to be offensive team in years to come; unlike under Van Gundy. Mutombo is good for a defense oriented team.
Mutombo was best suited for Nets, who could face Lakers on Finals..even though they still might loose it as Sixers had him on 2001 finals and still lost. Magic, will probably go to the Eastern Conference finals. It won't be an easy battle for Lakers, they have Mavericks, Spurs and Blazers to fear. I think any one of those can win the West. But again I predicted Yankees vs Cardinals in MLB. So you know how bad my observation is.
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| AX |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 07:27 PM
It will be good to see who will be starting All Star Game at the Center position from the East. Mutumbo will have a huge year this year playing beside JKIDD. Mutombo is the only legitimate center in the East as ZO have to sitout this season. He had good nos than Kurt Thomas last year while playing with the one of the most selfish player Allen Iverson.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 09:20 PM
I liked what I saw tonight..even though we lost.
McDyess COMETH.
He is sure to make a 'D'ifference. He is jumping more than he used to. Hope he doesn't land anywhere akwardly.
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| Madhav |
Posted
on 08-Oct-02 11:38 PM
Here you go Rusty Ji,
As I told earlier Mavs Kick out the kings in the opening game.
Dirk Nowitzki had 26 points and Raef LaFrentz added 19 points and 16 rebounds Tuesday night, sending the Dallas Mavericks to a 105-94 win over the Sacramento Kings in an exhibition opener. Michael Finley had nine points and LaFrentz scored eight during a 22-8 run to begin the fourth quarter as the Mavericks turned a 78-77 deficit into a 99-86 advantage.
What an exciting opening!!!
Go Mavs GO......................
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 11:48 AM
Sitara Ji,
You just slapped a slam dunk on my face with your Erving Magical aids;) Hajur ko verbal 3 pointer ko ta kura nai nagarau...
When you step on the floor next time, would u please shorten your nails:p
Then, I can guard you;)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 12:03 PM
DWI,
Yeah, I am watching the review of the last night night's match. I can see that McDyess COMETH can make a big impact in the knicks. Well, this is just presentation game.... game for the rookies...
Our Knicks' best players still have to step on the floor....
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 12:04 PM
Madav,
that's what Mavs do in presentation/ regular season:p
Rust
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 12:36 PM
Rusty ji
Next time I step on the floor, I will keep my nails and hair loooong and we'll just do the magical dance around the D area, without missing a score yet without committing a foul play (hands off policy) :)
You can lead and I will follow without stepping on your toes and tripping you. :)
I like Lakers for the moment!!!! And no your magic has not worked yet on my knicks!!! :P
And for college basket ball, Go TERPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 08:11 PM
Sitara ji,
hehehehe!! You're legendary LL. I confess now that my magic wand can't turn you into the Knickerbocker:p
Ummm... you're a complete player;)
Also remember that the lakers are not unbeatable team.
and I can't follow college basketball coz there're too many teams, plus I hate my college basketball team:(
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Oct-02 11:40 PM
Rusty ji,
There are players and there are players...the differentiating qualifier is in the terms "dirty" or "clean". I pride myself in being a clean player. I try to score without committing any fouls....:)
You, yourself are not a bad sport. In fact I have never disliked a multilingual player I have ever met! You are one of the few of those rare breeds.... oui monsieur! C'est vrai!!!
As for college BB, University of MD is my school!
And yes, Lakers might be slain if not maimed until then my knicks mybe immune to your fatal magical charms!
:)
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| dirk |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 07:28 AM
Poonts,
May be you meant Discovery, Atlantis or Endeavour. Challenger blew to smithereens shortly after take-off in 1986. There was a cruel interpretation of the acronyn NASA coined by some fellow ( Need Another Seven Astronuts) shortly after the disaster.
Sitara, your intelligent and humorous postings are always a delight but I think you did go a little overboard with this AIDS and Magic Johnson thing. So, I call it a technical foul not a flagrant one.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 11:06 AM
Dirk ji
My favourite referee!
Sorry what foul?????????????
I meant Magic Johnson has the "Magical aid" that I don't ; IT IS MY NEPALI FEMALE HEIGHT!!!!
:(
You do misunderstand me. BAD CALL!!!!!!
Referee out, referee out!!!!
:)
Thanks for your compliment!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 12:54 PM
Sitara Ji,
You proved us that you’re phenomenal athlete with a unique combination of grace, artistry, and improvisational ability. You got agility and ability to shoot the ball without committing any fouls:p Of course, you’re endowed magical aid from Magic Johnson.
You’re just unstoppable on the floor, especially around the painted perimeter. Every magical move (dance) you carry out mesmerizes me:) I just keep watching you, instead of guarding you;)
Et Knicks sont le plus mauvais, et les lakers sont les meilleurs. Juste vous donnant la conversation francaise parce que je suis multilingue :)
College basketball, I watch college football and college hockey. But, no college basketball:(
So, you go to University of MD? I know they’re the champs from last year. My sister also goes to UMD:)
Rust
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 07:34 PM
Wow! your sister goes to UMD? nice!
Thank you for your compliments; although I do not deserve them!
However I do confess:
"I have a feeling that someone is watching me.......and it's blowing my vanity!!"
:)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 08:42 PM
Sitara Ji
I always admire neat and clean players like you in topsy-turvy tournaments:)
Someone is watching you!! Looks like I need to start another lyrics marathon here.
You're just too good to be true.
Can't take my EYES OFF FROM YOU.
You'd be like heaven to touch.
At long last love has
arrived. And I thank God I'm alive.
You're just too good to be true.
Can't take my eyes off of you.
Pardon the way that I stare.
There's nothing
else to compare.
The sight of you leaves me
weak.
There are no words left to speak ;) LOL
By the way, my sister is freshman student at UMD:)
Rust
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 10-Oct-02 09:08 PM
Rusti ji...
Kya ho BB khelda kheldai lop parya jasto cha ni? :)
What poetry, what charm,
but will it suffice to disarm
without harm?????????????
For she is a player,
will play to the end,
she holds no magic
save for her tragic,
melodies of the heart
which melts souls apart
Pray don't stare,
you put her to shame,
she feels her blood rise,
and tis you she will blame!!!
:)
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 09:39 AM
MAVS will show a magic this time. This is the team of the present and future. Go MAVS---Go. Cuban just got fresh from honeymoon. You all will see his magic too.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 11:14 AM
Sitara Manche pani 'Chuwak', Lyrics pani 'Chuwak'. Kati ramro ho!!!!!
Rusty ko Reply herna banki nai cha,................
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 12:08 PM
hehehe!!!!!
Shiva Shiva Ji!!!
I wish you magic too ;)
Can you tell Rusty ji, he's been "called to action" in "Paramendra appointed....." thread. He has been touted as being a superb player, multilingual and possibly a double agent!!! :P
In jest and spirit of Dashain!!!
:)
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 12:27 PM
GODDDDDDDDDDD!!!
IF LIFE IS NOT A GAME, why are there SOOO MANY PLAYERS :O
jus a oys thought.
but for now lakers still reign :) ....any sacramento QUEENS' Fans outta here ;)
OYS:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 01:05 PM
Sitara Ji,
I conveyed your message to Rusy. He will come soon to see you(?)r message. HEHE
Oys Ji,
King are no more king. They became Queen of MAVS in last Match. hehe
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 02:34 PM
Sitara Ji,
And, I can still reminisce your magical move. It was lithe and quicker than the ball itself. You're spinning in the air through the blocking forearms within painted area (D Area).
Your hands were spreading like stars, stretching to suspend on the rim. The ball was grasped from five, and only five magic fingerprints!! You lifted up in the air soothingly, slapped a slam-dunk in the rim, and agilely landed on the floor. All I could do was watch your: grimaces, smiles, concentration, movement, and the calculation.
And no time was wasted to enjoy it. You grasped that globe and keep it dribbling. You worked it up higher than hands and lifted it up higher than the grab of gravity.
Sitara Ji, very nice poem. I hope I didn’t commit any flagrant fouls in this game;)
Let me get to your “called to action” thread ;)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 02:52 PM
Oys Ji
I also heard that big Shaq is not worried about the threat posed by the Sacramento "Queens." hehehe!!
Shiva Ji,
some high lights from last night:
1. Knickerbockers' first victory of presentation games over the Spurs:)
- A Mcdyess with 7 rebound, and 13 points. The other night he had 17/17:)
- Kurt Thomos had 17 boards the other night and 10 last night:)
- Eiesly can be better point guard if he gets enough time. Last night he had 14 points, but not impressive assist.
2. Watch for this team Washington wizards. New formation of team with Jerry S., B Russells, Juan Dixon ( champ from UMD), and Kwame Brown.
- K Brown had 20 points, 5 rebounds. Kwame Brown will perform why he was number one overall pick last year.
- Juan Dixon will try to hold the rookie of the year "title"
yes, the mav are slamming all their opponents in presentation series, but they can't be the champs from the west:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 02:54 PM
Rusty,
You Sketch the very clear picture of SITARAS MOVEMENT and CONTROL. SITARAS' ways of playing basket'BALL' is very touching and ARTFUL as your Writings.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 03:04 PM
Rusti ji
oui, oui monsieur...t'is ALL in the mind.....and zee imagination!
And how zee imaginations soar ......higher and higher; way higher than the basket, the board and clean above the magical arena!
:)
Shiva Shiva Ji...
Isn't he just the verbal player; bouncing and trouncing around the cyber arena; whipping up poetry at the drop of a ball and dribbling without a travelling fault?
His eloquance past compare!!!!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 11-Oct-02 09:42 PM
yeah!! wouldn't it be cool to play basketball in the rain and not get wet!!!
(the beasty boys)
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| DWI |
Posted
on 12-Oct-02 05:00 PM
Any of you guys are able to see Knicks pre-season game on TV? The first one was televised on MSG, I haven't seen schedules for any other. Do you know if we can see it? Rusty, Sitara et all.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 12-Oct-02 05:24 PM
DWI Ji,
I think none of the presentation games will be televised on any national TV. As I live in NE region, I can watch the Celts on fox sports local channel. Notice one major change this year... ESPN will also televise NBA games this season:)
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| sporty |
Posted
on 12-Oct-02 06:55 PM
HMM!!! dats a good news if espn gonna televise nba ths season!!! BY DA WAY< >>>> LAKERS R STLL THE TEAM TO BEAT!!! COUNT ME ON THIS ONE!!!! How bout some football!!!! TEXAS GOT THIER ASS WHIPPED BY SOONERS AGAIN!!!
GGOOOOO MIAMI HURRICANES!!!!
nfl fan out here????
BRONCOS Vs DOLPHINS>>>>>SUPERBOWL!!!!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 12-Oct-02 07:48 PM
Thanks Rusty Ji.
Sporty, I will never support any other teams than Giants or Jets..and Jets are down. So I guess I have to go with Giants. I heard Jeremy Shocky is not playing tomorrow??
Hey how about Hockey? I know I know.... not too many fans. Rangers might go 1-2 in the first week (they are currently loosing to Mario Lemiux 3-0) but they are going to the playoffs for sure.
Speaking of Rangers..aren't they a good example of a team that has all the cash and no real achievement lately? Take that Yankees Haters!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 12-Oct-02 10:01 PM
Knickerbocker fans,
The Knicks lost:(
McDyess left with just under two minutes left after suffering a hyperextended left knee. Very bad news!!! He scored 15 of his 23 points and 15 rebounds in the first half for New York. He might be out for several weeks.
However, I can see some overall improvements in the team by looking at the last three presentation games. Eisely is playing well as a point guard.
Sporty Ji, we have a separate thread for NFL:) Dig it up!!!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 12:01 AM
I hope the injury is not serious..otherwise we're gone for good.
Eisley should focus more on assists than scoring. I like Cheney making Charlie Ward the starting point guard for now. He may not lead in the assists, but he does control the game as he has the experience as a Quarterback too. But he may not be a point guard for a championship team. Eisley does have the quality for it. The best case scenario would be Eisley developing his skills as a backup man and finally 'earning' the spot. He performs better when challenged, remember last year he had a brilliant game when he was awarded the starting position for a small span.
If McDyess Knees need another surgery, Knicks season is gone and they might as well go to the operation theatre.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 02:05 PM
DWI
Yeah, you are right about the places for Eisley and Ward.
Hope McDyess's injury is not for long span. Hope for the best:)
Go Knicks go!!!!!!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 06:11 PM
Bad news ....everywhere!!!!!!
NEW YORK -- Could the New York Knicks' preseason take a worse turn than it reportedly has Sunday?
McDyess Power forward Antonio McDyess is expected to miss "most, if not the entire season" with a knee injury he suffered in a preseason loss Saturday night, the New York Daily News reports on its Web site.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 06:14 PM
Rusty ji...
So sorry!
You might want to use your own magic on your own Knicks or McDyess' .... !!!
:P
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| DWI |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 09:02 PM
Its like Knicks are playing against 'Bad-Luck' and the latter one is throwing strikes in every pitch.
I am awestruck, don't know what to say. Heat and Knicks, done?
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 10:19 PM
MAVS IS THE ONLY LUCKY TEAM IN NBA. THE ONLY BAD LUCK OF THIS TEAM IS LA LAKERS. THIS TIME THEY ARE NOT THE CHALLENGE.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 10:24 PM
LOOKS LIKES RUSTY AND SITARA ARE THE PLAYERS SHIVA SHIVA IS REFREE.....
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| do |
Posted
on 13-Oct-02 10:34 PM
Kings man
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 08:47 AM
DWI,
I am totally speechless now. The season has already ended for me before it arrieved:(
Thakkar Sharma,
If I am not mistaken, the Mavs first need to slip past the Sacramento "Queens" from their division. To compete with the Lakers is totally different story:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 11:01 AM
GROUP LEADERS: Up to now stnadings for this season.
EASTERN: CELTICS
CENTRAL: PISTONS
MIDWEST:TIMBERWOLF
WESTERN:BLAZERS
SAJHAPUR: RUSTY
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 03:02 PM
Shiva Shiva Ji
Rusty ji still dribbling???? The last I heard he was drooling as well as floored...:)
Sorry about the knicks Rusti ji.
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| do |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 03:19 PM
I hope lakers fail miserably this time =). They are bringing the excitement of the game down, totally.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 07:12 PM
Rustiji,
Sacremento is no more the king. they are king only in the name. About the Lakers, we will see when regular season starts.
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| fairfaxed |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 08:53 PM
Tried and True. Jordan, Ewing (he'll play, just you watch) and Kwame. Da WIZZARS!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 14-Oct-02 09:57 PM
Ewing might play, but there is only 10% of chance. You can't just jump into the game, you need to prepare yourself physically.
Kwame is finally making his presence felt. I heard he had 22 points and double digit rebounds today. I think he will start flourishing after half of the season is over, under a good supervision of Ewing, Jordan and Oakley.
Rusty, start liking Rangers now. I will still watch Knicks but just to see some miracles.
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| KooL_Dude |
Posted
on 15-Oct-02 09:33 PM
NBA Team to watch
1) WasWizzard
2) Hous-Rocket
3) Olrd-Magic
Team to beat
1) LA - Lakers
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 15-Oct-02 10:06 PM
Hey Kool,
You forgot about the Dallas MAVs. This is going to be the only team to watch and beat this season. They look better difensively this time. Offensively there is no match.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 15-Oct-02 10:18 PM
Knicks vs Utah
4th Quarter, 5:44 left
Score: Knicks 78: Utah 71
Can they show this resiliency in the regular season? Houston, keep it up. If they can hang on to 0.500 avg till February, we will have some hopes.
If McDyess is out for the entire season, Knicks can exercise their $4 million relief to get a center, bad thing is no good center available ...and money is so low.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 16-Oct-02 10:20 PM
McDyess is done for the season.
Knicks will try to get somebody for $4.5 or less within 40 more days.
Hate to see the season slip right under the nose, before it even started.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 07:11 AM
DWI and other KNICKERBOCKER...
KNICKS ARE NOT DONE YET!!!!!
Even after the Knicks received the worst possible news about McDyess, they picked up two victories in a row in big west. McDyess remained sidelined with a hyperextended knee, but the Knicks will continue its effort to make the play-offs:)
Jai Knicks:)
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| DWI |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 07:39 AM
I was very happy to know that they beat Suns and am delighted to know they beat Kings also last night. I think we have won all the games against powerful west teams (including Spurs).
But it is just the preseason game and we shouldn't get too much excited. I hope they will repeat the success in the regular season.
I share your feeling Rusty. I am particularly unhappy with the media right now. They are treating Knicks like trash. Daily News, ESPN channels and even MSG channels are hardly showing anything about Knicks (except for the Sprewell controversy and McDyess misfortune, ofcourse). Now after winning the difficult game, they should be praising the Knicks. Knicks, even in the preseason game, are doing something impossible. They should be encouraged, nobody is encouraging them right now.
I like the attitude, Rusty. Lets keep it going, lets keep the ball rolling. Pick and Roll!
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 11:07 AM
Game To Watch Tonight:
1)DALLAS & DETROIT: Reunion Arena
2)RUSTY & SITARA: Sajhapur
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 11:41 AM
Shiva Ji
Don't get excited. This is just a preseason game:)
Sitara already eliminated Rusty from the play-offs. So, no more dancing within D.....:(
Jai Knicks!!!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 10:11 PM
Who is the Refree in Shajapur game? Does anyone have idea? I know who is he.......
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| Madhav |
Posted
on 17-Oct-02 10:40 PM
14 Times All Star, two times MVP Karl Malone to retire from Basketball. For details click the link
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 12:18 PM
madav Ji,
It's good news that KM is retiring from his career:)
At least he had two MVP awards:)
Ewing
Bichara le auta pani award payena throughout his career:(
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 02:15 PM
Rusti Ji,
Is Sitara also retiring from this Thread like Karl Malone?? or she is waiting for Play Offs??
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 02:30 PM
I guess there's no match for Sitara;)
Who knows Sitara might make her first come back!!! MJ did that twice...so why not Sitara;)
She's gone to hall of fame, and I am gone to Hell of fame:p
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| DWI |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 06:44 PM
Sitara is a girl? Didn't know.
Sorry, I am not a chauvenist, but was happy to see a girl participating in Sports Discussion.
We have so less contributors in Sports talk, girls participation should be really encouraged.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 10:11 PM
My 6 points to improvize the Knicks:
*****************************
Oct 18, NY Knicks vs San Antonio Spurs
score Knicks wins 84-74
This is a preseason game and Knicks are probably within top 4 of Eastern Conference. Reason to celebrate? Hardly...didn't Jets won all 4 games of Preseason only to fall head over heels now. But there are lots of things to learn from the unexpected and pleasant results:
1. Allan Houstan is performing consistently well. In every victories, one other member
has stepped up and played well; be it Shandon Anderson, Harrington, Thomas or Weatherspoon.
Moral: Knicks should constantly feed to Houstan and if he is well guarded then should feed
to the person who is playing hot.
2. Out of 4 quarters, Knicks perform best in 1st and 3rd quarters, almost always.
Moral: 1st and 3rd quarter are followed by detailed motivational breaks (start and half time).
Don Chaney should realize it and devise a more efficient motivational speech and gestures.
3. Knicks should know how to integrate Sprewell to this part of winning formula. For now, Houstan
should be the leading guy and Spree shouldn't be trying too many tough shots. He should be given
the ball only when Houstan is not free to shoot.
4. The scores are almost always well under 90 and still Knicks are leading? It reminds us of
Van Gundy's defense era. Knicks are forcing the opposition to take tough shots. May be we should
look more into defense, although this could be very controversal idea. We don't have any good
rebounder and shot blocker, but we do have people who can play dirty like Thomas and Harrington.
They should be assigned exclusively for defensive game. With the fall of McDyess, we shouldn't
count on being offensive force now.
5. This is a jump shooting team, Houstan and Sprewell will be shooting jumper from outside the 'key.'
There should be atleast one tall guy always crossing the paint area. Doleac and Pope should do that
part well. May be we can use $4.5 million exception for that.
6. More shots are gonna come from outside the paint. That means we should be practicing more jump
shots than shots from free throw lines as less penalties will be awarded.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 18-Oct-02 10:51 PM
Forget about the pre-season. Lets talk about the regular season. Looks like everybody is forgeting about MAVs one of the hottest teams of last season. They are going show the magic. GO Cuban Go....................
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 19-Oct-02 12:25 AM
DWI Bro,
Excellent analysis of our team and the players :)
How nice!! our team’s been pounding over all western teams throughout the preseason series. Hope the knicks will play with the same potency in regular season, and zip up their critics' mouth. I am very conceited that our team still retains the basic
*modus operandi* of defense, instigated by Van Gundy/Pat Riley.
Obviously, we don’t have big guys (with the ability and agility) to dominate the game within the painted perimeter, so, as you said, we must depend upon the outside jump shoots. Houston must be consistent with his sharp shooting ability, and Sprewell must carry on his versatility to defend and enhance his jump shooting ability. About Kurt Thomos, I always admire this guy for his instinct. He always plays with his best whenever he’s on the floor.
Go Knicks Go!!!!!
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| AX |
Posted
on 19-Oct-02 08:34 AM
can't wait to start the season.
Just checked the NY Kincks schedules, they may very well go 0-6 to start the sesaon and 11-3 till end of the nov. Will like to see what Mr. Dolan and Co. will do about the Cheney and Layden at that time.
any idea? who is the main play by play for this year in ABC?
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| DWI |
Posted
on 19-Oct-02 01:31 PM
Thanks Rusty
I've sent the analysis to few sports websites too.
AX, you probably are right. Lets just hope you're wrong.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 21-Oct-02 06:42 PM
I fully supported management's decision to punish Sprewell, but this thing is going a little too much out-of-way.
Spreewell was again suspended and fined by Knicks for not following the team's instructions for rehabilitating his broken right hand.
It now looks to me like Knicks want to paint a bad image for Spree so that no other team would even want him. I still haven't digested the fact that Spree has to leave NY. May be I will start to.
There is some level of justice to it, but over all I think they are both acting like child.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Oct-02 12:14 PM
DWI,
As Knickerbocker fan, I want to see Sprewell clouting slam dunks in the basketball court, not slapping millions dollar law suit in justice court. This is undoubtedly revealing bad sign for the Knicks before the beginning of season. Looks like Knicks management will hit their own head till they plummet.
Yeah, I agree with you DWI…. Both of them are playing kids’ game right now. However, I think Sprewell can get traded even though his career is painted with bad images.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 22-Oct-02 07:18 PM
That's true Rusty. A lot of team will still shop for Sprewell, no matter how bad the Knicks paint him.
Knicks management should have the ability to handle these kind of situation better, for the fat check they earn. A.I. has problems with Sixers, but he is still cool there. Giants had similar problem but the mgmt overcame it with grace. Knicks action might be justified, but certainly not the best decision to make.
I think Spree will win the first suit and won't have to pay that record amount. However, the recent fine sanctioned by the Knicks cannot be well challenged. If Knicks remove the latter fine(for suspension), that could well mend the relationship as Spree won't have to pay a dime after that (the first one being taken care of by the counter suit).
Hey Rusty, we have a game tonight.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Oct-02 07:28 PM
DWI,
I am keeping track of live score board from my class room;) hehehe!!!
Just a reminder that two preseason games will be televised on national TV on Thursday.
TNT or ESPN (!!!) :)
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| DWI |
Posted
on 22-Oct-02 07:42 PM
Bad Boy! Should study man!
Anyways, I am following it on MSG TV and boy they are playing bad..or should I say normal?
We might loose this one, but who cares. We will do something on regular season right?
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Oct-02 09:52 PM
Yeah...who cares about win/lose in preseason games!! Looks like Kurt guy didn't play well tonight...that's ok:)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 24-Oct-02 10:36 PM
Shiva Ji,
Kailash parbat bata dhyan bhanga garnu paryo!
Your Mavs ruling:)
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| Maobadi Pidit |
Posted
on 24-Oct-02 10:47 PM
Shivaji is busy with Parbati. Better don't disturb him. He will show up when Mavs win their first game of the season.
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| shiva shiva!! |
Posted
on 24-Oct-02 11:18 PM
RUSTY JI,
Mavs is rocking agains 'CELTICS' & 'MAGICS'. I am still waiting more magics to come in favor of MAVS.
MP JI, I am not busy, I think RUSTY's PARBATI IS BUSY. We missed her appearance here in this thread. Ki kaso ho RUSTY JI???
PEACE: IN MIDDLE EAST
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 25-Oct-02 12:10 AM
Shiva Ji
Congrats!! open your third eye now! Mav's are on the move.....upside down!!!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 25-Oct-02 10:54 PM
Ummm...continuation!!
Ummm...NBA on ESPN!! Isn't that weird?? Did you see that ‘preseason’ fight between D. cristie and R. Fox??
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| Maobadi Pidit |
Posted
on 27-Oct-02 09:07 AM
They faught only for 2 minutes though. I thought they will fight for whole game.....hahhahaha.
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| shiva shiva!! |
Posted
on 28-Oct-02 09:53 PM
Rick Fox is the man of the MATCH!! I love the way he dunk the punch over the Christie. HEHEEEEE
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 28-Oct-02 09:55 PM
Rick fox is fighter of the match. Christie is the looser of the match. ahahhahaha.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 28-Oct-02 09:56 PM
Warm welcome to NBA season 02-03:)
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 28-Oct-02 09:58 PM
Welcome to you too Rusty................Have fun.
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| Maobadi pidit |
Posted
on 28-Oct-02 10:47 PM
The guy who is suspended for 6 games is the man of the match?.... Another history in NBA .................... hahahhahahahah
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 08:53 AM
Dear NBA fans,
With Grant Hill healthy, how far will the Magic go this season?
- I think Magic can go to first round of play-offs with or without Grant Hill.
He looked sharp in his return last night. He flashed some of the explosiveness he had prior to his injury and finished with 18 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists in 30 minutes.
Any reactions from you guys about Hill and opening night?
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| DWI |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 09:43 AM
Magic looks like the team to beat in the East, along with Nets.
Rusty is right, even if Hill goes down, Magic can goto the playoffs. Miller will nicely replace Hill in scoring descipline.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 10:58 AM
NAILON DEAL OPENS DOOR FOR SPREE TRADE
Will there be any big impact on the team?? I don't think so.
For more:
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/24455.htm
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 11:08 AM
Lets see how far Mr. HILL can climb in the NBA 'HILL'
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| AX |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 11:56 AM
Glad to see all the frens jumping in MAgic's bandwagon. I thought these were the fans of lowly Knicks.
Peace
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 01:27 PM
AX....
I know you're Magic's fan. So, read this for Grant:)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-sptbianchi30103002oct30,0,4501410.column?coll=orl%2Dsports%2Dheadlin
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| AX |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 09:38 PM
Another good nite for Grant Hill. 17 points 5 rebounds 6 assists. Hope to see more like this stats.
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| Maobadi Pidit |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 10:30 PM
Common guys talk about MAVs too. they are the highest scorer of today's game. Man 119 points................. Go MAVs go....
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 30-Oct-02 11:14 PM
Glad to see another MaVs Fan here in the thread. GO MAVS GO...............
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 08:20 AM
The Pistons rallied for an 86-77 victory over the Knicks:(
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| DWI |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 09:48 AM
I liked the game. As Walt Clyde said during the commentary, Knicks were just tired and didn't use their legs after 3rd quarter.
Nailon's addition is gonna be helpful and when Doleac comes we will get more second chances in rebounds. Spree is gonna make us better.
Bravo Houston.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 12:07 PM
DWI
What will be the significance of Nailon within the Knicks?
I don't see anything so far...maybe I am blurred by the hypes of other teams like Mavs;)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 01:22 PM
you are coming to the points now RUSTY. There is only team one team of action not hype and that team is MAVS. GO MAVS GO
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 09:30 PM
Finally, Michael Jordan played like Michael Jordan, Kwame Brown played like a No. 1 pick and the Washington Wizards handed the Boston Celtics a scary trick and trick both on the day of halloween.
Notice that Kwame had 12 points and a career-high 18 rb in the season opener...AND
20+ points tonight, 7 rb, and 6 block shots tonight. Good for the Wizards!!!
This guy might be the most improved player of this season. But, one can't judge at this momemt of the season.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 31-Oct-02 10:00 PM
Jordan played good Rusty? Good news.
Yeah, Nailon's addition is not gonna alter anything; but for 800,000 dollars he is a bargain. He can give another 10 points coming off the bench. Remember, Detroit had strong bench and their bench outscored ours by 31-9 or something like that.
I think he is better than anybody except Houston, Spree or Thomas in the current roster...as far as scoring is concerned. But you're right, not much impact.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 01-Nov-02 12:00 PM
DWI,
I got your point. I am just amazed to see NBA games will be televised on Friday night, double header :)
ESPN....jindabaad!!!!
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:25 AM
Game to watch this saturday:
1) PHOENIX vs DALLAS
2)MINNESOTA vs INDIANA
3)ORLANDO vs MILWAUKEE
4)TORONTO vs HOUSTON.
I am predicting dallas will secure 3 digit point and will win with double digit. Go mavs Go
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| shiva shiva!! |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 10:14 PM
My prediction went wrong, but dallas won with double digit margin 97-83 !!.
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| Maobadi Pidit |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:04 PM
Better stop predicting. But don't worry Nepaliko Bhabisya bani always goes wrong. Remember mousamko bhabisyabani from department of materiologist in Nepal.........
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:33 PM
Hello Nba fans!!!
No matter what we all say....but i have to agree that magic is the real deal this year!! they look good!!! real good!! i think Magic and Nets will play in eastern conf. final.
And As we all know<<<<<<< LAKERS WILL BEAT KINGS AGAIN!!! HELL YA!!! THEY WILL!!!!!!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:34 PM
I like Dallas a lot but they need to accelerate one more step to match up with kings or lakers!!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:35 PM
I like Dallas a lot but they need to accelerate one more step to match up with kings or lakers!!!
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 02-Nov-02 11:38 PM
MP The prediction goes wrong even here in USA. Today they were predicting that there is 40% chance of rain in dallas while raining. Can you believe that. That's why it happen to dallas Mavaricks too.
Believe me this season for Dallas and the team is MAVS.
Go MAVS GO.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 04-Nov-02 10:35 AM
BigTime Ji,
The Magic is a good team, but they won't be in conference final for sure! Also, they can't trust on Grant Hill, who is experiencing soreness in his ankle from the game they played against the Bucks. He might be out for the whole season any moment of his games. I think that will be the end of his career afer being out 3 seasons in a row… The only trustable player the Magic team has is TMac…
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 04-Nov-02 09:57 PM
Mavs won again over Golden State. 107 to 100..
Go Mavs Go
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| Tranquiller |
Posted
on 05-Nov-02 08:57 AM
Shiva Ji
Up side down!!! LOL
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| Tranquiller |
Posted
on 05-Nov-02 08:58 AM
The Lakers are the best team in NBA. They will win no matter what.
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| Tranquiller |
Posted
on 05-Nov-02 09:00 AM
I am totally surprised that these people also talk about sports. I thought nepali people are totally dumb when they talk about sports.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 05-Nov-02 01:43 PM
Tranquiller !!
I Agree!!! Lakers R the Best!!! I m very positive about that team. sac kings has a good team but they can not beat lakers in seven game series.it will be very tough.
Dallas Mavricks...what can i say..i simply like dat team! but they arent goin anywhere unless lakers quit.
guys!!! even w/0 grant hill...magics showed thier magic last year and they will continue to do that...TMac is da man to watch on east coast!!!! he is da man!!!!!
Dont even think about Celtics...na ah...they aint goin anywhere this year....Nets r still da team to beat !!!!
I will post about jordon n wizards when i go watch them next month playin wid 76ers....but i really think jordon is better as a bench player now!!! he is 40 for god sake!!!!
AIite people!! later!!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 05-Nov-02 01:45 PM
wait up!! i think....my home team Wizards....they playin pretty good lately...havent they????? haha..GO WIZARDS GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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| AX |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 10:15 AM
Yeah yeah, Jordan and the Wizards are playing great and the record is 1-3.
Wizards won't be in Playoff this year as well and Jordan even won't 6th man award this year. You go figure out how bad are they.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 04:15 PM
Ax>>> cmon dude...dont rush!!! it is just the beggining of the season>>>> they got long way to go.....Lakers r also 2-3 , that doesnt mean they aint gonna make it to playoffs!!!....Wizards r much better team than last 2 yrs..and i wont be surprised if they make it to playoffs even though it is a hard task..but i m sure they will have better winning percentage this year....
Guys!! how bout ORlando maGIC 4-0....they beat da KINGS....dat was a good game...
Any comments on Yao ming AND " dat dude from argentina"" i dunno his name....
SHAQ WILL BE BACKKKKKK SOOOONNNNN>>>>>>SO WAIT FOR DA SHOWTIME IN L.A!!!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 04:17 PM
change of topics.....HOW bout SOME FOOTBALL>>>>>> PACKERSSSSSSSSSSSSS N broncossssssssssss ...both playin great!!!
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| AX |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 07:13 PM
about the NFL following is the link:
http://sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=7388
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 09:10 PM
Hmmmm...Knickerbockers!!!!!!:)
First win of the season against the big team: Sacramento "Queens" :)
Lee Nailon playing great:)
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| Junkie |
Posted
on 06-Nov-02 10:28 PM
About time Kings got crowned ....... see ya in playoffs (....selling badam I mean)
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 09:42 AM
........Nov 12 is near!
Shaq's almost sure to be there
He is sure to distroy, once again.
Remember what Bryon Scott told......"Memphis would have made it to the NBA finals, had this guy been there"..
So watch the real game....
This guy plays the ball as it is meant to be.
So enjoy....
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| AX |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 12:15 PM
Knicks proved me wrong. I said they will start the season 0-6. Congrat Knicks for the win. Knicks fans enjoy the win as much you can, it will be long time for another win.
Peace
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 12:26 PM
K_loaded!!!
I agree to this statement -......"Memphis would have made it to the NBA finals, had this guy been there"..
Shaq just needs a point guard LIKE Kobe, who can score 22-25 ppg, as second man to score in the team. That can be Paul Pierce, Vince Carter… Shaq really doesn't need Kobe to win the championship, despite the fact that Kobe has been playing outstandingly since the beginning of this season.
Yes, Memphis has been the high-flying team formed by several talented rookies. Last year, two good rookies: Paul Gausol and Shane B…. , and this year, there are two outstanding rookies in the team. I don’t know their names….
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 12:27 PM
AX,
YOu will always be wrong about the Knicks:)
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| AX |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 12:30 PM
Memphis is the team of the future.
Gasol is great. He is all star caliber player. Dwight Gooden is playing great. Wish Battier can get some minutes. Lorenzo is play great too. ANd guess what JWILL is team oriented player now. I see the future of the team.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 12:36 PM
Yes, I was talking about Dwight Gooden!! He's gonna be the rookie of the year....
Gasol is a great player. He can play better than Dirk Noinzki(!!) by next year, if we compare foreign young stars within NBA. he grabs rebounds, scores points, and blocks the shots... very versatile player!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 03:34 PM
k loaded..i agree...shaq is ready to hack.....i cant wait to see shaq vs yao ming...it will be interesting....kobe is playing awesome....he is just keep gettin better day by day....
OH YES!! Gooden is too good....whats wrong wid knicks...i felt sorry for dat team...used to be so good...damn!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 06:54 PM
Yao Ming would be little better than 7'6" Shawn Bradley....
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Nov-02 08:46 PM
Celts Vs Lakers...very interesting game....goin on!!!
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 08-Nov-02 12:18 AM
No, no no........
Shaq Vs yao was a wrong statement!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 08-Nov-02 07:54 AM
Throughout his career, Yao Ming will average 14 points a game and nearly 10 rebounds a game. This is my prediction. This year, his input would be nearly countless.
Rust
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 08-Nov-02 09:11 AM
I agree with Rusty. Yao Ming is not better than Shawn Bradly. We can see Bradly improving. He is securing more than 14 points each game now a days.
Lets watch through out the season.
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| AX |
Posted
on 08-Nov-02 09:41 AM
Rusty is starting ot predict as well. Rusty, I think you are taking Yao lightly. He will better player than what you are saying. Give him 2-3 years to develop his skills and NBA environment.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 08-Nov-02 01:58 PM
Rusty is right.
Yao has to get more physical and has to gain more weight, if he wants to prove otherwise. He might be a premier shot blocker and rebounder, but not a scoring threat...much like Mutombo.
Knicks vs Pacers...I sense 2nd victory for Knicks already. Hey, that means we are as good as the world (errr NBA) champions Lakers. That is the reason I will give my friends when they're gonna ask me why I am still watching every Knicks game.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 09-Nov-02 09:29 AM
DWI ! i respect ur feelings...i would also support my fav. team in good n bad times! haha....AX..u right! give yao ming few years to get used to NBA envoirnment and develop his game...he will be a complete player....he will be better than what Rusty thinks..( mY prediction ;-)) ......WHAT A DUNK BY STACKHOUSE>>>>WHOOO>.. MJ n team Beat Lakers!!!! oops ..guys..its saturday..college football time!!! peace N out!!!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 09-Nov-02 11:29 AM
Good to see another loyal Knickerbroker, after Rusty, BigTime!
I would support them till the end of the season and in the draft day, when we will get LeBron James, the new Highschool kid who should be as good as MJ (well theoretically).
Yao has good jump shots and is a better scorer than Mutombo, but he cannot 'slice-and-dice' as Walt Clyde would say. I think the best he can average over his career is 19 ppg, which is good..as good as Spree or close to Houston.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 10-Nov-02 12:04 PM
Can you believe this??
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news/ap/20021109/ap-pistons-mavericks.html
The only unbeatable team in the league. Go mavs Go.................
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| AX |
Posted
on 10-Nov-02 01:11 PM
Knicks fans, what do you say about swap Latrell Spreweel for Jalen Rose???
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 10-Nov-02 02:22 PM
AX,
I can't say anything right now. Where did you get this swap news? Rose is better scorer than Sprewell. That's all I wanna say for now.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 10-Nov-02 03:46 PM
Ax,
Sprewell is my favourite player in all NY Sports. Having said that, I think the deal sounds good for the team.
I've heard the deal involving Spree and the exception ($4.5 million) for Jalen and on Marcus Fizer(6-8, 10.8 career points). This deal can soothe the recent turmoil and besides Jalen is better than Spree in every points according to the box score. H owever, is he a better player than Spree? That's a debatable question. Spree is a big catalyst and he doesn't need to be 'ball-fed', he creates most of his shots. Jalen needs plays design for himself, even if he is very good at steals.
But I don't mind the trade, either way it would be good for the future. For present, the deal might be what Knicks need right now.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 10-Nov-02 11:53 PM
Well !! bad news for lakers fan...i just turned on sportcenter and heard them saying that SHAQ wont be back tuesday.. his toes still troubling him....Phil said," shaq, get back when u r ready, not because we r 2-5."
Stackhouse was a real deal for Wizards ....i dont wanna see sprewell leaving knicks...but jalen rose is a better shooter...myan! i miss that old knicks team of 97-98!
oh well!! keep it up guys! GOOOOOOOOOO Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 11:46 AM
Guys,
How you guys are percieving the Defense of MAVS?? Aren't they improving than last year? I think Shawan Bradly playing real good this time.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 04:01 PM
Lakers are too dependent on Shaq....No Shaq no win for lakers. Lakers are not well balanced. Poor Kobe, trying to salvage the team by himself. No help around. In contrast see the Mavs. No Lafrentz, no problem. I mean the team is quite balanced and every body is contributing to the game. See the game with Detroit..the #1 in defense....
MAVS have a good chance this year.......Go MAVS Go...........
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 09:07 PM
....'no shaq no win for laker'-NEGATIVE!........its true championship ring heavily revolved around this big guy, but LAKERS are still a playoff team even without him. Its just that it will take some time to adjust without him. And talking about kobe, leave duncan aside, he is the best allrounder in the league. Just watch him get better and better.
And with shaq?
.........nowhere is championship goin!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 10:20 PM
I am not questioning about the Kobe's performance. He is one of the best players in NBA. But One man is know way can take the team towards its goal. We have seen in the recent past. Kobe's more than 40 points didn't help to win the game. Lakers needs Shaq to win the game and championship. Otherwise play off also might be a dream for them...
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| DWI |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 10:45 PM
Agree with Thakkar. I even go as far as saying that Lakers won't repeat the championship, even with a healthy Shaq. Heck, they won't reach the NBA Finals (coz if they reach the finals, they will win it, no team in East can gun 'em down).
I have no complains so far for Knicks, except may be a small unsatisfaction of game closure, or lack thereof. They look far better than what they were a year ago, even if their record doesn't show it. I think they will give the 8th team in Eastern Conference, the run for their money for making playoffs.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 11-Nov-02 10:53 PM
I agree with you Thakker. Ther is no chance for Lakers this time. This season is for Mavs and Cuban.
GO MAVS GO.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 12-Nov-02 12:37 PM
hahha...i see some LAKERS HATERS in here!!! cmon' guys dont have the champions!! not only once champions for last three years in a row!! cmon' now! if they dont have talents they wont be winning 3 championship in a row....Lakers arent worried about 2-5 , they will be back and they r still the threat to the KINGS n MAVRICKS.
I like MAVRICS too...they r playing far more better than last year....but hey...this is just the beggining...NBA is a long series..about 8 damn months..anything is possible...
I just love the way mavricks handle the ball...STEVE NASH..he is da man.. But MAVS really has to play their A game to go and compete with lakers in the playoffs....it is a tough task..but they certainly have chance this year..
BUT HEY U LAKERS HATERS>>> DONT UNDERESTIMATE" THE 3PEAT CHAMPIONS"
They will be backkkkkkkkkkk
By da way, no offense saathi ho.....hahahah
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| AX |
Posted
on 12-Nov-02 01:00 PM
BTP seems to be confused. How the hell you gonn alike MAVS if you are Lakers fan. May be he can elaborate.
About he Lakers w/o shaq, they are average team. Far about chamionship game, they won't even be in playoff. I like Kings chances with the addition of Plastic man and his energy off the bench.
And knicks fan, wait for till next year. They are playing for Lebron James Lottery pick. Too bad, there is no taker for the malcontect Spree and his big tiem contract.
any guys, any though about resignation of Sidney Lowe from Memphis Grizzlies?? I think with that team has a potential to be good team at least playoff calibar.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 12-Nov-02 09:47 PM
I don't hate lakers neither I am a fan of Lakers. I am just trying to point the reality. Here is what CNN saying;
Kobe Bryant hopes to have Shaquille O'Neal back soon.
For the last three years, the Lakers have been NBA champions. Tonight, they're just trying to stay out of last place. Stumbling in Shaquille O'Neal's absence, they'll try to end their 3-game losing streak as they take on the Hawks tonight.
Hope they will achieve at least this goal. Good luck for them.......
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 05:19 AM
ANd lakers lost again!! so what!!!! whats so big deal about it??? u guys think lakers gonna have a loosing season?? well...if anyone is thiking so, u r out of your mind...SHAQ is not out for a season...he will be back n Hacq again!!!
Ax...I tihnk u r da one who is confused....i m not here only i m a lakers fan...i Love the game of basketball...i say what i see....I ve been a lakers fan for a long time and will be....even when they win or loose..doesnt matter!!! if i ma lakers fan that doesnt mean i cant like any other teams..i think u dont luv this game!! if u do, try to appreciate good teams.....MAVS r the most improved team since 2000 as far as i know..they been playing great with great talents ...i really am looking forward ....i dont mind if lakers lost in da confrence final or even in playoffs...better team should win playoffs....so..whoever play better, they win!!!
BUT GUYS DONT THINK LAKERS R DONE>>>>IT IS JUST THE BEGINNG>>>> OFCOURSE LAKERS R COUNTING OF SHAQ AND HE WILL BE BACK>>>NNNNN >>>ITS A SHOWTIME!!!! ONE MORE TIME>>>>SHAQ N KOBE WITH the company of horry n fox. WATCH OUT!!!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 07:20 AM
Lakers will be different when Shaq comes back. It's like 'Oralo Lageko Mrigalai Bachhale pani khedchha' bhane jasto ho. Lakers are without Shaq so everyone is taking a chance to beat Lakers. It will be a fun Lakers loosing when Shaq is playing.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 10:46 AM
Exactly thakkar !! everyone is havin fun beatin da world champions...let them be..SHAQ WILL BE BACK ON FRIDAY!!!! I CANT WAIT TO SEE Lakers n MAvs game..it will be a terrific game...Mavs r really good..i m so impressed...they move da ball so quick up n down the court ..no other teams r faster than mavs....but if lakers play their Defense, they got chance to beat mavs..
i honestly think, MAVS is the only team who can challenge Lakers!
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| AX |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 12:14 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm
now i know BTP is no big fan of Lakers but the fan of Basketball. and can we stop calling NBA champion as the world champion. BTP i am sure you followed world championship. US basketball team was not even qualified for the 2nd round in world championship.
I know how lakers players and their fans feel about the Kings. I really think Kings can compete with lakers in west. Kings are better team than last year with the addition of Plastic man. Lakers got same players may be weak on the backup PG position. Let's not forget the kings-lakers series went to 7 last year.
I don't think MAVS are that good as ppl are saying here. They don't have quality center and are undersized to beat the lakers. They beat Suns, Warriors, Grizzlies, Raptors, Bulls, Pistons and Blazers. All of those teams are non playoff teams beside Pistons. Let them play the high power west teams like spurs, lakers and kings. Let's wait and see........
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 01:13 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Now AX is talking the talk. Eventually Mavs will win Lakers this friday.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 02:54 PM
Guys...do more arguments/fights.. we need to keep this thread alive till the end of the season.
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| AX |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 02:56 PM
LOL@Rusty
don't got nice thing to say about Knick ;)
too bad, Spree and Rose trade did not work.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 09:41 PM
Can't be beat MAVs are now 8-0. However it looks like Mavs' stamina is going down...But they are becoming more of a 4th quarter team. That's a good sign
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 13-Nov-02 09:46 PM
You are damn right Thakkar. Mavs edge Cavs, move to 8-0
Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki combined to shoot 8-of-29, but Dallas survived a second straight lackluster start to remain the NBA's last unbeaten team. Nowitzki scored 13 of his 17 in the fourth quarter, and the Mavericks won 103-99 at Cleveland to open a three-game lead in the Midwest. Zydrunas Ilgauskas scored a career-high 34 for the Cavs.
Rusty, AX and BTP what do you have to say?
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 08:01 AM
AX,
K leknu Knicks ko barema...they will end up with less than 20 wins this season...
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 08:02 AM
Mavs fans...
Dirk N will be injured in couple of weeks, then your team will go to hell....
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 10:20 AM
Rusty, Are you jealous of Mavs?? Fine,
Lets see who will get injured? hehehe
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 12:00 PM
Shiava Ji and other Mavs fans....
Confessing the fact that my Knickerbockers goin down to hell, I wanna make following comments to offend you Mav fans. U can strike back with corny dialogues:) C'on people, we need some fights here.
If I am not mistaken, Mavs haven't played with big teams in the west: the Kings, the lakers (after Shaq), and Spurs. I know they will again be eliminated by the Kings - hopefully sweep like last year - and stay calm. It will be inteteresting if the same teams make to the NBA finals. The Kings n the Lakers. Very good rival:)
I hate Dirk N, S. Nash, Coach Nelson, and I really hate Mark Cuban....
YOur Mavs ...upside down.....bu hu hu hu!!!
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| AX |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 12:28 PM
well said Rusty. These so called MAVS fans are excited when they beat lowly CAVS. I really do think MAVS have not played playoff caliber teams this year beside Pistons. Let them play the Duancans and the Spurs, Shaq and the Lakers and CWebb and the kings and we will get to know how good are the MAVS.
Peace.......
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 01:59 PM
AX,
These chicken fans (no offence hai, we need to move this thread with BIG fights;)) of chicken team - the Mavs!!!! They haven't faced versatile players and teams yet:)
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 04:48 PM
duncin hasnt played his game so far and shaq still not no the floor.....
....so this is half a talking as far as NBA goes.
....talk about new speculations.....kidd and ducan together next season!
they can be of bryant o'neal pottential.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 14-Nov-02 07:33 PM
Guys,
Mavs is Lion of the season. You know an unbeaten team. Even your gut says that Mavs gonna win this season. Lakers lost with Hawks, Can you believe that?? Think about the margin point, by how many point they gonna loose. Yes pali ko season ma all the bheda, bakhra, chicken(knicks) haru lai Lion le sakhap parne bho!!!
No offends, hehee
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 05:53 AM
YO YO YO!!! people!!!! like rusty said, We have to keep this thread alive!!! cmn' now!!
Guys!! dont worry about lakers..they will be back...N rusty..dont worry about KNICKS either,i m sure they will win more than 20 games.....And I still think MAVS is a better team this year...we will see!!! but u know what guys...f***kings..haha...if they coulndt beat lakers last year( they were supposed to win series in 5ht game) , how da F*** they gonna win this year....i dont thnk so..not in 7 game series....they need to be tough mentally....CWEBB cant face SHA@ n Lakers!!!!!!!!! thats da bottom point!!!!
GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
hey..what about MJ and WIZARDS...damn..my hometeam r playing great lately...waht da....they beat JAZZ last night!!@! what a game by MJ in 4th quarter.GO wizs~!@! to the playoffs..hahha..aiite guys..later....hey mavs fan...keep ur head up..they r good..i m wid u guys...
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 07:36 AM
You are right BTP.
Lakers, knicks are come back team. But not this year. May be in the years to come. This is the years of MAVS. Go mavs GO..........................
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 10:24 AM
Probably next week. That's the latest prognosis after Shaq met with his foot specialist Wednesday, who proclaimed his progress as normal. It could be delayed another week, however, if the Lakers' behemoth continues to experience soreness in his surgically-repaired big toe.
Shaq's injury is becoming a bit of a worry for the Lakers, who are off to their worst start in 12 years. Last week he was at practice and everything seemed to be coming along OK. Now he's complaining about pain again and admitting that the toe is restricting his mobility and flexibility. Coach Phil Jackson said Monday he doubted Shaq would be able to play more than three-minute stretches right now.
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak says for now the team is optimistic that Shaq eventually will be 100 percent. He also says the organization won't try to rush him back, even if the losses keep piling up and the Kings build on their Pacific Division lead. "Whenever he says he's ready that's when it will be," Kupchak says. "We don't want to have him come back for one or two games only to have him [re-injure it]. We're going to be patient."
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 10:25 AM
On Monday, Bulls GM Jerry Krause vehemently denied rumors of a Rose-for-Sprewell swap, saying there was "totally no truth" to them. He also said he talked to Rose and informed him there was no deal in the works. Krause is certainly capable of lying to the media, but it is doubtful he would go through the trouble of misleading Rose as well.
Still, there are valid reasons why Chicago might want to make this trade. Some Bulls insiders believe Rose and rookie Jay Williams will never be comfortable sharing the primary playmaking duties, and that Chicago needs to find playing time for forwards Eddie Robinson, Tyson Chandler and Marcus Fizer. Meanwhile, Sprewell would give the Bulls a true shooting guard and a defensive presence in the backcourt, where the 6-foot-1 Williams is going to be overmatched many nights.
Also, Rose has four years and $60.3 million left on his contract after this season. Sprewell has two and $28.1 million. By taking Sprewell, not only would the Bulls have more financial leeway in 2005 to re-sign some of their young pups, but Sprewell next year could become a valuable trade commodity to another team looking to add a high-scoring player in the final year of his deal.
As for the Knicks, it's clear they would like to get rid of Sprewell right away. He has worn out his welcome in Gotham by showing up late for games and failing to tell management about an offseason accident that left him with a broken hand. Rose, a playmaking small forward with more size than Sprewell, would be a better fit. Plus, as one league exec points out, his contract expires at the same time as Allan Houston's (2007), meaning New York could clear massive cap space at that time.
Despite these reasons, however, it's hard to envision Krause giving up on Rose after he traded away so much (Brad Miller, Ron Artest and Ron Mercer) to acquire him. Besides, the volatile Sprewell can be a dangerous ingredient in any rebuilding mix. Just ask P.J. Carlesimo.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 09:37 PM
Best in the land
From the West Coast to the East Coast, the Dallas Mavericks are putting a hurting on the rest of the NBA. Dirk Nowitzki's bunch disposed of Boston 97-86 Friday to improve its season-opening win streak to nine games, something SI's Marty Burns says wouldn't be possible without gritty defense.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 10:11 PM
Guys
You know by now who would be the NBA champ for this season. There is no alternate for MAVS. From now on lets talk about second position. Ki kaso ho Thakkar ji??
No offense Rusty.
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 11:11 PM
GO MAVS GO!!!!
GO MAVS GO!!!!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 11:27 PM
MAVS dream run will come to an end. But I think they have what it takes to be a NBA champions. I see potential in Kings too. Both of them have big time playmakers and solid perimeter help.
Waiting for Knicks vs Sixers tomorrow.
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 12:27 AM
Hey DWI..Kings lost to Sonics today did u know that????
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 12:42 AM
Mavs fans,
Chicken Mavs haven't faced foremost teams yet :)
This is just the beginning of the season. Mark Cuban's Mavs always had the big ' hype' till the end of the season. Play-offs???
Few wins don't divulge..Mavs are the best:)
Rust
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 09:50 AM
Rustyji,
Looks like you are frustrated with Knicks performance. Who do you want the MAVs to face? Boston celtics? already gone, Detroit #1 defense in NBA, already gone. Now what... Watch tonight with NJN ... Hopefully you will have an answer... I don't expect MAVS 82-0 by the end of the regular season. They will have some defeats and that is I believe needed to energize the team time and again. Watch the way the team is playing compared to last year specially in Defence.....
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:58 AM
You are the man Thakkar. You speak my heart. Rusty is really frustrating. Did you see the Bradly's Block yesterday? What a performance! what a defence! . Today mutumbo will have the very tough time with Bradly and Nahera.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 03:54 PM
I agree with u guys!! Like i said earlier, MAVS r the team to beat this year!!! they r such a fine team! but i also think that they r their worst enemy...while facing with lakers or kings, MAVS has to keep continue scoring points....doesnt matter if they playi against SHAQ or DIVAC...if they could score points , it doenst matter how many points shaq dunks...EVEn though LAKERS IS MY TEAM, I M looking forward for mavs this year~!~~
GO MAVS....and ofcourseeeeee goooooooooo lakerssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
what about 45 points from KOBEEEEE..he is the one man army in lakers right now~~~!keep ur heads up lakers fan!!! they wi ll be back!!!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 03:54 PM
RUSTY, dont worry about KNicks..they will be back soon!!!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 04:24 PM
Good BTP. I wish Lakers and Mavs in the Western Final and Mavs beat Lakers in 7 games series. God blesh Mavs...............
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 05:39 PM
yeh sharma ji.......MAVS definitely need some god blessing to win lakers in seven game series. And you have realized it earlier....good sign.
Definitely mavs' got he best offense in the league rt now and they have improved a lot in there defense. Chances are they MIGHT end up the regular season with the best record. But the playoff is a different story........
lets talk just about the regular season rt now.
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 07:16 PM
I agree with K loaded! MAVS definitely need "33 koti devata ko bless" to beat lakers if they ever play in 7 game series....but i do think it is possible...if shaq is out!!! hahahaa..
But we all should agree that MAVS gonna make playoffs N they have a potential to beat KINGS in game series!!! however...i really like mavs...they r really good ..such a balanced team....all they need is somebody to match up with shaq or divac...that would be enough..anyways.....GOOD LUCK to mavsssssss....AND LAKERS FAN!! KEEp ur heads up!!! they r on a run....1-0 winning streak...hahha.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 08:50 PM
Friends MAVS are now 10-0. They beat Kidd's NJN. You are right K_loaded, lets not talk about play off now. Season has just begun and there is a long way to go. It's just the starting. I would like to request you all to understand, every team needs some blessing to win the championship. No question on that. But this time blessing will go to MAVS. Who know Lakers might not be in play off at all. Just the speculation.....Haahahahah..
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:20 PM
One again MAVS emerge as the winner.....
They have defeated the eastern conference champions...now who else??? Bring 'em on!!
May the force be with MAVS!!!!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 07:58 AM
SANUNANI ....did u just watch STAR WARS...ahahha..may the force be with mavs re...
haha..jk..
MAVS R playing really good..i wanna see their streak going...they r the best team right now in nba, well balanced....
KNICKS fan....aww..it was a close game..wasnt it?? ..phili almost lost....
LAKers fan....keep ur heads up...
what about my home-team..WIZS...they beat miami by 30 points... haha..
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 08:16 AM
YO people!!! Awesome game on tuesday night...19th of nov....
Unbeaten MAVS vs NBA CHAMPS LAKERS....what a match up.....i hope shaq will be back!!!!!!!! kasto bore....i like both of this team...koslai support garu..hmm..i guess..i m gonna support lakers since they been loosing latley..
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 11:01 AM
BTP, This season is in favour of MAVS. Lets just don't waste your time supporting LAKERS. This is the time for change in NBA, and that is what MAVS are offering to Basketball fans. Why don't we all support MAVS and energize them for the Change.
Rysty is alredy switch the camp to favour MAVS. Ki kaso ho rusty?
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| AX |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 11:33 AM
Kudos to MAVS. watched them playing Celts and Nets. They played really good game. Even w/o Van Axel and LaFrentz they were able to beat two top from the east. Bradely is playing great. Najera has improved his jumper. Nash, Nowitzki and Finely will be always there.
But i still do think Lakers and Kings are the team to beat this year. Let Bibby and Shaq come back. West coast standing will change in a hurry.
Rusty & DWI, i hope you guys watched the knicks game yesterday. You guys can be proud they give their out in the court. But I still they think they will go 1-16 :D
Peace
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 01:59 PM
shiva ! if everybody started supporting the same team, there wont be any excitement!! like i said earlier..i do like MAVS..but i m a Lakers fan ...doesnt matter if they r playin well or not....
AX is right...i also think LAkers n da kings is gonna be tough team to beat...mavs can do it ..but it will be a tough serious ..and they dont have enough experience in playing tough series like lakers n the kings...i really think, experience counts!!!.but good luck to mavs!!!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 06:39 PM
You are right BTP. No opponent no fun. We need you to stay behind Lakers. We need atleast some one to point a finger when Dallas looses the game. Hopefully this situation may not come but who knows. They are the players and we can't say anything. Right BTP!!!! what do you have to say..............
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 12:11 AM
lakers lost again!
and people are saying they no good at all without shaq.
but not all true!
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 12:57 AM
yeah...lakers lost again....kobe played such a good game but no support from his team-mates....Lakers r a perfect team if shaq is there......Other players has to step up in this situation but so far ...doenst seems like anybody has stepped up for lakers except kobe.....These players r never been in this situation b4..that is the real problem for lakeres...i still think they will be back and will roll once again!!! GO LAKERSSSSSS
Mavs...doing great!! happy for that team!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 09:07 AM
Mavs fans (Chickens),
Why are so guys so much excited about the Mavs' winning streak as if the Mavs are the first team to do so??? There's nothing to get excited about? Last season, the Kings were #1 in regular season with less than 20 losses throughout the season. You know what the Lakers did even though the Kings showed their potency. In the previous season (01-02), the 76ers had 17 wins in a row. Did they win championship?
After all, experience counts on the floor when it comes to play-offs and also ‘metal’ preparation. Even though the Mavs have The Lakers and ‘THE’ Shaq have learned very well what it takes to be the champions. Last season, the kings were close to win, but they were still lack of mental toughness and experience to win the title.
The Mavs, a team formed with bunch of JOKERS, won’t win the title regardless of their winning streak. No other teams will win the title until ‘the’ Shaq is there.
About my Knicks, I am still their hardcore fan, and I will support them till the end of time. I ain’t like you guys, who tend to decline towards winning teams. They won’t make the play-offs this season, but there’s always hope for next season.
Rust
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 09:22 AM
Few things to notice from last night’s game:
1. T Mac scored more than 30 points in last 10 games. Can he win scoring title this season? I think he might!!! One thing I like about him- he is very confident player.
2. Yao Ming scored 20 points on 9-of-9 shooting in a 93-89 win against the Lakers.
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My prediction for this season:
Rookie of the year: Drew Gooden
Defensive player of the year: Ben Wallace
Season MVP: J Kidd, or Dirk N (!!!)
Scoring leader: Tmac/Iverson
Rebounding: Ben Wallace
Assist: Gary Payton
Blocks: Theo Ratiliff
Steals: Iverson
Free throws: Tmac
3-points: Paul Pierce
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 11:33 AM
I Agree RUsty!! when it comes to playoffs, experience is the big factor!!!!
KINGS would have won last year but they were not tough enough mentally to beat lakers....I think, MAVS will make it to the playoffs easily..but then..they gotta bring their game to the next step...if they can do it, they will win..if not..they r gone!!
I THINK TMAC has a big chance of bieng a scoring leader...
YAO ming played pretty good last night..eh?
PAUL PIERCE..i like the way he play..but he is not consistent...same with IVERSON....
I Go with Tmac..he is da best player right now in nba....AND MR>KOBE BRYANT is not too far behind him..he is right along with him...KOBE PLAYIN A GREAT BB >>>>
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 08:20 PM
hey guys....missin something!!!
leader in feild goal attempted and missed????
I-3
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| AX |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 08:29 PM
cheer up Rusty. Knicks is winning the game.
Knicks keep proving me wrong :( I thought they would go 1-16 till end of the Nov.
I ain't saying anything bad about MAVS. They are good. Let's wait till they play Kings, Spurs, Sonics and the Lakers. I really do think they will need couple more playoffs experience to win the championship.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 09:01 PM
AX....
hahah!!
Cheer up guys!!
Knicks won!!
Knicks won!!
Second win of the season:) See...good things happens when Sprewell is on the floor.
Victory over #1 defensive team:)
#1 field goal missed leader - Iverson:)
Rust
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 11:02 PM
I am happy for Rusty for Knicks win..... God bless Knicks..... MAVs and Lakers tommorrow night....Hopefully Mavs will win..............
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| BigTimePlaya |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 05:58 AM
CONGRATS!! knicks fan!! they played their hearts out!!! good one!!!
AX...u r right..MAVS need more experience to win the championship..but hey..who knows may be they r good enough for that!!!
I GUess, MAVS gonna beat tommorow night simply because LAKERS isnt a complete team right now.....lakers is loosing all close games, so wait till shaq comes back!!!! they will roll then!!!
anyways.. keep on watchin guys!!! later!!!
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| NP |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 07:06 AM
As Charles barkley said, "The lakers are Jackson 5 without Michael Jackson right now."
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| shiva shiva!! |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 01:33 PM
All-Time Best Starts
The Dallas Mavericks' 10-0 start ties them for the fifth-best start in NBA history. The record is 15 consecutive victories to start a season, achieved by the 1948-49 Washington Capitols and the 1993-94 Houston Rockets. Dallas will look to set the all-time record when they play at home against the Lakers (Nov. 19), Houston (Nov. 21), Seattle (Nov. 23), on the road at Detroit (Nov. 27) and Indiana (Nov. 28), and back at home against Chicago (Nov. 30).
MOST WINS WITHOUT A LOSS TO START SEASON
SEASON TEAM RECORD
1948-49 Washington Capitols 15-0
1993-94 Houston Rockets 15-0
1957-58 Boston Celtics 14-0
1982-83 Seattle SuperSonics 12-0
1996-97 Chicago Bulls 12-0
1964-65 Boston Celtics 11-0
1990-91 Portland Trail Blazers 11-0
1997-98 Atlanta Hawks 11-0
1997-98 Los Angeles Lakers 11-0
2002-03 Dallas Mavericks 10-0
1972-73 Boston Celtics 10-0
1993-94 Seattle SuperSonics 10-0
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers 10-0
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 10:20 PM
98-72. What a win!! Shawan Bradly played really good with double double. His defense and rebound tactics seems really working. Wining with such a large margin with 3 times NBA star is not somthing like Chicken. And Rusty, Mavs doesn't deserve that title. Please give that to Knicks.
Rest Later.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 10:59 PM
Forget about the MAVS, any better team can beat the Lakers at this time. Lakers are not Lakers without Shaq. It will be a true victory for MAVs when they beat Lakers with Shaq. It's not surprise that MAVs beat Shaqless Lakers with this much margin. Go MAVs Go..........................BTW Mavs are not like Chicken. Find some other better name Rusty....
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 08:18 AM
What's wrong with TMAC??? Is he gonna be second MJ in scoring? He has been scoring over 30 points in past games, except for one game.
Thakkar Sharma..
your mavs were always better team. See what I wrote up there. When it comes the time to show the games, they are always down. I ain't surprise by the victory over the lakers last night. Not a big deal.. Shaq was not there! Also, I won't summon the Mavs with any name from now:p I was just tryin to get into your nerves...:)
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| DWI |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 12:46 PM
Based on the discussion so far and my own assessment of the teams, the way they have played, here is my evaluation of the teams discussed in this message board.
Dallas Mavs
Arguably the best team right now. When they got Raef LaFrenz and Van Excel last year, beating Knicks, without loosing valuable players, it was crystal clear that they were a team made for championship. There 11-0 record is just a simple product of having too many talents in a team which can afford to calm one talent while another one 'steps-up.'
They are surely claim NBA West division.
Million dollar question: Can they win the title? Yes
Support from Sajhaites: 7(Shiva Shiva, jackass, Madhav, Thakkar sharma, Maobadi Pidit, Big Time Playa, Sanu nani)
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LA Lakers
Every great things must come down. All other teams are working on beating the Big Daddy. Whereas, Lakers have done nothing significant. Not Progressing means going down, you cannot remain still.
Million Dollar Question: Can Shaq repeat it? No
Support from Sajhaites: 3 (Sporty, Tranquiller, K_loaded)
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Wizards
Had to mention this team coz few members did. This looks like rebuilding team, with Kwame on the center of everything. Stackhouse addition was a big gain. May be next year, they will be Eastern Conference champ.
Thousand Dollar Question: Can they make the playoff? Yes
Support from Sajhaites:2 (Farifaxed, Kool Dude)
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Knicks
How can I live my best team? They aren't as bad as they look. If the effort steps up in 4th quarter they can be good. Chaney should use the tandem of Spree, Houston and Nailon on 2nd and 3rd quarter. 4th quarter should be given to defensive players (assuming they have the lead). Houston should be given ample time to rest and should be insterted 4 minutes after the 4th quarter.
Hundred dollar question: How many games can they win? At least 24, At most 40(I know , its too much).
Support form Sajhaites: 3 (Rusty, Ax, DWI)
I am very partial as far as Knicks is concerned, but I do think they can win at least 24 games. 40 is too much, but I can atleast hope.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 12:56 PM
DWI, Impressive research and collection of data. I love Mavs. They are my hometown team. If you were in Dallas wouldn't you support MAVS?
Thanks any way.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 01:01 PM
Sorry for all the errors (They are sure to claim NBA division, How can I leave my best team etc).
Thanks Shiva. You are lucky your hometeam is winning. Ofcourse I'd have supported MAVS if I were Dallas resident.
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 01:34 PM
well.....Impressive collection but not necessarily correct(DWI).
MAVS are certainly playing superb this season-both offense and defense. Dirk -future MVP. But this is what this game is all about. Every team goes through this period.
I remember portland had 13-0 run sometime in last season, spurs had impressive run during the end of the season. its all in the game. To me it looks like mavs gonna end this season with the best record or close. Other than that nothing can be predicted about mavs. They are young playoff team. Here's what don nelson told after mavs-lakers game yesterday-"we tend to look better than we are without shaq on the floor"-there wasnt this confident like 'bring shaq!'. NO doubt they will compete hard-everyone does!-and i agree that every great thing must come down. But not this time, not now.
In shaq words-"...... i remember jordan sayin 'everyteam has to go through bulls to win the championship' and now i say every team has to go through the city of LA be a champion. ' + shaq and phill.
And about million dollor questions,it was worth penny.
No where in the earth can i hear people predecting about team winning championship this soon except for here.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 01:45 PM
K_loaded.
My observations were meant to be criticized, thanks.
If Mavs were 5-6, I still would have said good things 'bout them. Kings, Spurs, Blazers don't have a solid record..but they are the teams enough to challenge Lakers.
As far as predicting the win this early goes, C'mon that's what prediction is about. Do you want me to predict it before the 4th quarter of the Final championship game?
Predicting this early just makes the fun rekindle itself. If u haven't seen it anywhere else, Sports Illustrated, ESPN (the two biggest name in the media) do it before the start of the season. But thanks for the criticism anways.
Okay, I haven't given enough credentials to Lakers.
But that was my prediction, which is as good as a guess (line inspired from Yogi Berra).
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 10:38 PM
Didnt mean to criticize by any means. I said it was impressive. But the million dollor question you answered(that wasnt a prediction-it was more a certainty, i guess) about the lakers and the shaq was off the line. As far as predictions before the start of the season goes it was predicted by one of these that we gonna have rematch of last year finals and lakers eventually winning the tiltle for the fourth straight time. So your so called prediction was offline. Still not a criticism. Its just that....well in webber's word ' they are the champion and they wil remain the champion unless someone takes it away from them.'
By the way, lakers lost again to spurs.
Man!...Phill jackson is the man. Much more than we or anybody else in the world he knew how lakers gonna perform without shaq. I am happy he said we gonna start the season 0-7.
I take my word back.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 11:01 PM
K_Loaded, He said that? Phil has really become a wiz after going through that zen stuff. He knows how to place a super star in a team and win games. He might not be an apex, but certainly a corner of the Shaq-Kobe-Phil triangle because of which Lakers have kissed the trophy so many times.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 11:14 PM
It seems like it is all Shaq when it comes to Lakers. No Shaq no Lakers period.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 10:14 AM
Guys,
I don't think lakers gonna have the same time like before. Lets see until shaq comes and plays some games.
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| NP |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 10:17 AM
DWI and Thakkar Sharma!!
Shaq is the Lakers and the Lakers are all about Shaq. "With the constant efforts of Kobe alone, the Lakers can't go to the play-offs." I can make the assertion here by looking at the current win-lose streaks. Kobe is NOTHING but a above the average skillful point guard, and Phill Jackson is nothing without Shaq. If Shaq is NOT there, none of Phill's championship winning principle works. [I would greatly appreciate Phill Jackson if he went to younger teams like Magic, at that moment, and fetch them to the championship finals. He is a great opportunist, in my view, despite the fact that he has great modus operandi of winning championship.]
The biggest mistake the Lakers did in off-season was that they didn't think it was necessary to get a couple of good back-up point guards. For example, see Sac Kings and Mavs. They have all prominent starting and back up point guards. I didn’t mean to say that back-up point guards should be star players. Mike Bibby is not there, but Bobby Jackson can effectively replace his position.
More later!!
NP
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| NP |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 10:31 AM
Also, are you noticing Indiana pacers this season? They just have one loss. 10 - 1
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:01 PM
Did Indiana loose with Mav NP? Heeee
Just asking
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:43 PM
ESPN- We're talking about every NBA center not named Shaquille O'Neal. After Shaq, who's the second-best center? Vlade Divac? Dikembe Mutombo?
Tim Duncan would be the second-best center in the NBA, except that he prefers to be the finest power forward instead. Call him a center and he'll bank you off the glass.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas could be the second-best center in the NBA, and very well might be at the minute. Trouble is, not even Big Z himself dares to promise you that his blasted feet will hold up.
Shaquille O'Neal may be right -- he might be the only real center left in the NBA.
Alonzo Mourning should be the second-best center in the NBA, of course, and you know the sad story why he isn't. All we want from Zo now is good health.
Everyone's asking that question lately," Indiana president Donnie Walsh said. "Shaq has been first and last for a while."---
My opinion--
Walsh is right! But I would say... there won't be another "Shaq" after this Shaq. He is the most dominant center NBA history. Wilt Chamberlein & Bill Rusells... I don't think they would be taking 20 rebounds per game and scoring 30 points per game if they were playing in this decade.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 09:38 PM
NP ,
We didn't want to lower Shaq's value for Lakers at all. Shaq is the reason why their ring goldsmith has found a regular job. But I think Phil Jackson is definately super-star coach. Not that he is a superstar(although publicity wise he is); but he is a coach that can manage superstars.
Many times Lakers were in the verge of loosing crucial games (remember Blazers last year) and ofcourse Shaq saved it almost always, but it takes a decent coach to win that many games. If he were a great coach, Lakers wouldn't have been the last place team in Pacific Division. But he knows how to put a winning formula when he is given right ingredients.
Changing the subject, Every team (specially Knicks, Heat, Nuggets) should learn from Indiana that you don't need to go through rebuilding process (like Bulls) to transform itself from one generation of players to another. Pacers has done excellent job on doing so, and they actually have gotten a lot better. May be that is coz they weren't in as bad position as Knicks or Heat (with Ewing and Mourning going down) they still have Miller and replacements for Jalen Rose. But my point is, remember how Pacers, Heat and Knicks used to identify themselves as Eastern Conference Leaders. The latter two have failed currently, Pacers are still the best even in this long stretch.
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 10:43 PM
Thats true DWI.....Phill is definetely the mastermind behind the ball game. To add to his legacy, just compare the lakers before and with him. Just two years after phill jackson took over the lakers BANG!!!...lakers go on to win the championship and shaquille o'neal grabs his first MVP title(both regular season and the finals). shaq says'.....thank you phill jackson, the greatest coach of the year.'
And then nobody can forget the significant impact of phill in making the bulls and the jordan.
For me to make two superstars, infact megastars(shaq and kobe) work together in tandom is the greatest challenge for any coach. And look at phill jackson, he is kool.
And Paccers ....just unlucky. They are probably the most underrated team in the league.
Damn! look at young o'neal. furure star
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| AX |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 09:20 AM
I really do think K_Loaded is over stating about Phil Jack Ass. He can only win when has 2 superstars in his team. Let that jack ass coach the knicks (where he played for) and win it. Then i will refer to him what you are saying.
DWI, I could not agree with you anymore. No doubt he can manage the team with superstars. Without best players in the game, you can never win the championship. As he has proved with the lakers record being 3-9 as of 11/22/02 for the season 02-03.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 10:56 AM
AX, u mean you couldn't agree with me 'more'. Yeah, Phil has proved that he is a superstar coach, but I think he also knows that that is his niche. He can win by assembling a winning team (that still is a hard thing to do), but he has never had success with a mediocre team to begin with. I don't know if we should give him the benefit of doubt; as K_loaded says, he is a mastermind and I do agree with him. But AX is also right on challenging on his competiveness.
Another question, are coaches as valueable in Basketball as in Football? I can think of the following ways a coach contributes to a team:
1. Influences on who should be traded in or out.
2. Puts a mix of players in the floor, giving special thought to the chemistry.
3. Motivates players during the game and breaks.
4. Challenges referees, asks for more calls for the team.
5. Devices plays which have the biggest impact specially during the last minutes of the game.
6. Assigns responsibility on the court and off the court to the players.
Is that enough to give a coach credit for win or loss of a team? If not why do they get fired so fast when team is not performing well. If yes, why is Cheney still in Knicks roster with a renewed contract (money could be a reason here, Cheney is cheap and Cablevision are close to broke).
Thoughts about coache's contributions?
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 23-Nov-02 04:47 AM
well AX.....who do you think is the great coach in the league rt now then?
And yeah, as you said, no team can win the championship without great players in the game. But the great coaches make sure that these great player perform upto their pottential, play as a team and bring the ring home. Well Phill jackson has done it all, not once but many time.
Hey great coaches doesnt mean that they make team like nuggets(at this point) go to the playoff and win the championship. Great coaching is all about making your player work upto the higher level and get their appreciation. And which coach now rather than phill jackson has mastered in it better?
Jordan appreciates him a lot, so does O'neal.
And records do speak.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 23-Nov-02 09:45 AM
I agree with you K. Right now one of the best coaches in the NBA is Don Nelson.....Haahahahah Go MAVs Go.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 23-Nov-02 10:05 PM
Let's extend the debate as to whether Jackson is a great coach or just loaded with two superstars on the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers.
The question becomes can you be a great coach if you always have great players or do taking teams with less talent and reaching the playoffs define a great coach?
A guy like Doc Rivers with Orlando gets a lot of credit for being a great coach because he gets the Magic to the playoffs every year. Larry Brown has won a total of 1,200 games wherever he has coached and basketball has rewarded him with induction to the hall of fame. Brown is considered the ultimate teacher in the game, but does that make him better than Phil Jackson?
Let me say the reason I’ve changed my mind on Jackson from being a good coach to a great coach is for a couple of reasons. Chicago had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, but couldn’t climb the hill until Pippen stopped being intimidated by Dennis Rodman when Rodman was in Detroit. The point is that Chicago doesn’t have any NBA titles except for the ones they have with Jackson as the coach. Same thing is true with the Lakers. The Lakers have two of the best players in the NBA with Shaq and Kobe Bryant the marquee players in the NBA now. The Lakers couldn’t win in the playoffs before Jackson got there. Utah used to pick and roll that Lakers team into the ground with the experience of John Stockton and Karl Malone. Shaq had come to a point in his career where people said he’ll get his statistics but the team will never win. Kobe was a young buck that knew he was good but had no control over his game at all.
I have to say that Jackson prepares his team well coming into the games, which makes it easier to stay calm on the sidelines during the games. A coach doesn’t have to prowl the sidelines like a lion on the hunt if they are ready to play when the game starts. I think this is where Larry Brown has his frustrations with Allen Iverson because Iverson doesn’t take practice seriously. If the stars don’t take practice seriously then the coach has to work harder during the games since his players have no clue what he is talking about in the games.
One other point is what kind of job would Jackson do with a team like Portland that has underachieved for years now? Just because you have talent doesn’t automatically mean you will win. Would fans say it’s Phil Jackson if he went to another team that’s underachieved and won a title. Three different teams would be absolute proof for me and should be for anyone else because I don’t believe in just always being in the right place at the right time. Some of it has to be due to the man that pulls the strings on what goes on for the team. Talent can be mismanaged on a sports team as well as improved.
I shouted out, now you shout back and tell me is Phil Jackson a great coach or is it just great talent? Could he win with less talent or does it matter? If you could pick one coach to lead your team who would it be?
Rust
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 23-Nov-02 10:10 PM
Mavs,
I think the Mavs are more about Mark Cuban and his ability to purchase the star players. Don Nelson is also a good coach though.
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 23-Nov-02 11:18 PM
MAVs are now 4th quarter team. This is the one of the advantages they have compared to last year. They outscored Seatle 39-20 in 4th quarter to beat Seatle by 115-105. Mavs were down by as many as 16 until 3rd quarter. Oh man what play by MAVS. Now they have 2 more games to go to match the best NBA record. However the road seems tougher than expected. They are facing two of the challenging teams of the EAST. Good Luck MAVS.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 25-Nov-02 09:13 PM
Are you all dead? Where did the Mav fans go??? Bring your boys here; let's do a tupsy-turvy sajha basketball tournament against these Mav fans. Where're my Knickerbocker pals?? I will play from point guard position:)
Girls also allowed here. Sitara...where're you???:) And DWI??
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| DWI |
Posted
on 25-Nov-02 10:44 PM
Huh...What!!!
Rusty I am all support for you and Knickerbrokers. Will play shooting guard. But about Jackson, may be you gave him too much of credit. He still has to prove himself as an all-rounder coach. Remember, even NBA gives coach of the year award mostly to a coach who assembles a winning team with mediocre players(eg Don Chaney, Hubie brown etc).
But your analysis was praise worthy, especially about Larry Brown and even about how Jackson has made the 'good' look better and achieved the best. Remember sugar present in a cup of tea won't make the tea sweet until you stir it accordingly.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 12:30 PM
DWI,
I didn't wholeheartedly proclaim that Phill Jackson was the best coach. Notice in the third paragraph, I said I had changed my mind on Jackson from being a ‘good’ coach to a “great” coach. Certainly, after winning 9/10 NBA titles, his place doesn’t dwell under and below average coaches in NBA. I didn’t say he was the greatest/best of NBA. However, I thought I must praise him for crafting winning techniques and managing star players.
So, where’re all the players? Mavs haro lai chllenge:)
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 12:32 PM
Rusty ji
My, my, aren't we getting vocal? ;)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 12:54 PM
Welcome back Sitara, Without your presense all fans are like 'Nun khayaka Kukura'.
Well talking about the coach, Don Nelson is the coach who is turning around the teams and stirring all the players to make Mavs World Class Team. Talk about points guard Mavs has, Nash, Exel and Avery Johnson. All of them has the unique style of throwing ball around. Who plyas with mavs they will have to be prepared to face a variety of alignments.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 01:02 PM
shiva shiva ji
Ke garne hajur... Rusty ji seems to be stuck in his knicks.... even best coaches can't pry him out of them!!! :P
Sitara ta gone down with the lakers!!!!!! :(
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 01:07 PM
Shiva Ji
forget about NBA, talk about SBA (sajhapur basketball Asso):)
Bring your boys to compete with us. We're so far 3 people in our team. I am point guard, DWI power forward...how tall are you myaan?;)
and Sitara is shooting guard? how does that sound. We need a coach desperately. We can ask DUMBASS to coach us.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 01:13 PM
Seems like interesting, I am ready; let me gather my boys. Is there any new rules? If there is any femal players, I can be more offensive ni. Hahahaa
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 26-Nov-02 01:24 PM
Sitara Just left our team for good:(
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 12:51 PM
Guys,
Don't forget to watch the game tonight. Dallas vs Indiana.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 09:29 PM
Mavs lost with Pacers 98-110. Now the dream of Rusty came true.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 10:51 PM
Shiva shiva
this is their first meeting with tough team. They haven't faced tough teams yet:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 11:35 PM
Rusty, I am not agree with you. They have met and they will meet. I think they are just tired. Dirk and Finley couldn't score as they were expected and the result went to the other side. We have long way to go and we will see the outcome anyway!!
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 08:41 AM
I agree with Shiva Shiva....the team looked fatigued in last night's match. Well...it's just a first loss in the whole season......
May the force be with MAVS!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 07:07 PM
Anyway loss is needed time again to energize the team. MAVS need to forget their lose to Pacers and move on. There is a long way to go....
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 01-Dec-02 09:45 PM
Mavs fan
This is the beginning of slump
:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 01-Dec-02 10:10 PM
How about the just started next series of high time of mavs with the win of BULLS Rusty ji?
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 02-Dec-02 02:51 PM
Shiva Ji
mavs will lose the game tonight:)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 02-Dec-02 03:29 PM
Can you believe 76ers are #1 in Atalantic division?
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 02-Dec-02 04:30 PM
>>mavs will lose the game tonight:)
Rusty-ji
We'll see about that hai!!!!!
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 02-Dec-02 10:13 PM
Mavs won the game with 113-102 over Toronto. They are now 16-1. Damn Pacers spoil the game. Otherwise there would have been a new history written in NBA...
BTW Mark Cuban is looking for ideas to get fined. Throw some suggestion so that NBA can fine him.
Good luck Shajatis.......
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 03-Dec-02 09:21 AM
The lakers are going down, but I ain't worry about them NOT going into the play-offs. I am not the Lakers fan......but, I think they will somehow clinch the play-offs as #8 seed and destroy all other best teams, especially the Mavs. The kings are likely to be defeated by the Mavs this year, but the Mavs really really have to work hard to defeat them. They still have to deal with Bobby Jackson's marvelous play, defese of Christie, offense of Webber.....second best center...Divac....etc. Remember, the Mavs were one of the best teams in last play-offs. However they got swept away:)
Then, after the Kings, then worry about juggling up with the Lakers.
I agree that the mavs will have the best season record with more wins than losses.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 04-Dec-02 03:22 PM
The mavs will face second loss tonight in Portland. I can bet if you want:)
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 04-Dec-02 04:46 PM
Rusty -ji !
Your prediction failed last time.....(and will fail tonite too!)!!!!!!
Happy Watching!!!
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| ? |
Posted
on 04-Dec-02 04:51 PM
New Joisey Nets
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 04-Dec-02 08:56 PM
Let's see:)
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 05-Dec-02 08:20 AM
>>The mavs will face second loss tonight in Portland. I can bet if you want:)
Rusty ji, Really? hehehe. yo ta alli hawa ma ful pareko jasto bhayo yar!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 05-Dec-02 09:08 AM
Finally Rusty confesses that the Mavs are the best until now:p
LOL...............
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| DWI |
Posted
on 05-Dec-02 12:44 PM
Rusty just missed the second three pointer.
Rusty dribble the ball less, I am waiting in the left wing; pass it on Mr Point Guard. I was hoping the shot would go to the basket this time (hoped Mavs loose), but may be next time. The shot was not uncontested and tough.
Knicks played bad yesterday. The final 3 seconds play was horrible, why couldn't coach Chaney come up with a better play. Why didn't he take time out in the play when Kurt Thomas made a 'fumble?'
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 05-Dec-02 03:38 PM
yeah...my 3 pointer's always baddddddddh:(
I need better coach unlike Chaney..
Go Mavs Go....
to Hell:)
I don't wanna talk about Knicks:(
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 05-Dec-02 04:43 PM
Finally! Rusty -ji is assured that MAVS is the best HO???
Yup, MAVs were awesome last night.....I stayed up late and watched the whole match (sometimes dozing off...) but it was WORTH it!!!
;)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 10:50 AM
Sanunani,
where u from? what you do? what's your business? age/sex/location....LOL....I wanna know all? ;)
Nope, Mavs are being the best right now... They won't be ...in couple of months:)
See, tonight..they will lose the game coz Shaq is very mad by the loss with the Twolves the other night... He will show his versatity to make mavs realize "the lakers are still #1" :)
This time, my verbal 3-pointers won't miss:)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 10:53 AM
correction- versatility
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| DWI |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 11:09 AM
I would support Mavs over Lakers any given day. But since now they are the underdog here, I will also bet for Lakers tonight. Rusty, I am doing the Pick, don't miss the shot now!
Let the game begin!!!! Where are Mavs fans?
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 12:11 PM
Mavs will tonight, there is no question about that.
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 02:44 PM
DWI,
When you pick, I won't miss....:)
Mavs Fans....
you guys ain't their fan. You guys are just a bunch of bendble jokers. Next year, if the Kings win, then you guys run after them!! Shame on you...clowns:p
Become fan like Me and DWI...no matter what...the Knickerbockers are sealed into the hearts. It just that they're not being worthy to talk this year.
I also bet that the Mavs will be sunk by at least 10 points. :)
Problem with Mavs?? Who's gonna guard 'The' Shaq??
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 03:35 PM
Keep yapping, and swallow it all after the Lakers get their ass kicked tonight.
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 04:56 PM
Ah, ah......Even Don Nelson is not pretty sure about kicking the lakers' asssss. I sense him getting a technical in the second half, if not in the first.
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 05:23 PM
Rusty-ji,
Kina chasso where I am from bhanera??? I am a HUGE MAVS fan so..where am I from?? You do the math !
Anyways, I am sure your prediction will fail miserably AGAIN tonight ;)
Lakers will be frustrated again.....bichara haru....
May the force be with MAVS!
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 05:49 PM
Rusty ji,
predictions are alll fine!!!
what bout the bet?? according to my calculation u owe an essay, comprising of "1400" words so far and counting ;)
tyasto ni garne ho bet harera?? common..where's yor spirit? or is it still in the trikal's house ;)
MAVS gonna win tonite? haha.. funny joke.......mavs fans, fluke doesn't last long!! les see!
oys
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| Thakkar Sharma |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 06:30 PM
Knick fans, I would like to assure you all that we are MAVs fan same as you are for Kincks. If you have doubt on our side than we do have the same in your side too. Lets not question who is the fan of which team. One more thing MAVS is our home town team and there is no way we go away from supporting MAVS.
Lakers has not done much after Shaq's return as well. Before Shaq's return, they were above Golden State Warriors now they are in the buttom of pacific division. It's not who is going to win tonight. It's important who is going to create a rythem of the game. I would like you all to remember the game of MAVs and Portland Blazers the other night. 10 three pointers (Number may not be accurate) in one quarter. If the same thing repeated tonight forget about the Shaq, nobody will be able to guard MAVS.
It's only few hours away. We all will see the facts.
Go MAVs Go.....
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 07:36 PM
There you go THK Sharma ji you said it right!
Hey, Oys- a team can win one or two match by fluke not 14 matches in a row...ki kaso ??? MAVS have worked hard to reach where there are todya as a team.
MAVS le jitnai parcha........oh god!! it would be so awesome!!!
Can't wait to watch teh game!!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 06-Dec-02 11:16 PM
Mavs fan
I confess....the Mavs are the best:)
This is just 3rd quarter...I confess my loss...happily and gleefully:)
I won't be the Mav's fan, but I had always admired 'em as a good team till they got swept away by the Kings in last play-offs:)
:) :)
Beat the lakerssssssssss
Beat the Shaqqqqqqqqqqqqq
My knickerbocker, again ...lost with the Celts:(
Rust the Frost:)
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| DWI |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 12:11 AM
What the #$&& Rusty!!!
What happened to our tandem?
See you gave up, but I hung on tight. We beat 'em, Man we beat 'em.
I was telling all the way, Kobe is gonna make it happen. Man he could penetrate any defensive layer!
Where are Mavs fans! Bring 'em out. Feels like my Knicks won (they lost, for the record).
I don't think it proves that Lakers are better than Mavs, but I bet on Lakers and We've won. C'mon Rusty! Celebration!!
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 12:20 AM
Yes, it DOES NOT prove that Lakers are better than MAVS.
MAVS will come back again ....and BEAT the Lakers ......(and I will be around to wait and celebrate that day!)
As for tonight, it was a superb game....worth staying up late and watching!!
What a game!!
May the force eb with MAVS!
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 12:30 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA SANUNANIIIIIIIII!!!
the one who laughs the last, laughs the loudest!!! a lesson to be learnt for the mav hicks! :P but it was sure one of the classic games! told you before, FLUKE is temporary, CLASS is permanent ;)
rusty, u give up too easily ;) u r no sports fan :) eheh better write the essay...its 1500 words now.....
we see again, what a heart of a champion means re kya ajha last ma ;)
oys
g'nite broken hearts ;)
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| k_loaded |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 01:24 AM
well....the lakers won and mr.don nelson got technical in the first quater.
What a game! Damn this lakers got all that what it takes to be a champion.
when it comes to real game, its takes lots of energy to beat the lakers. History tells.
Yeah, mavs fan.....mavs may win the lakers next given day, but chances are less. Just pray mavs dont meet the lakers in the first round of the playoffs.
LAKERS DYNASTY.
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| Shiva Shiva!! |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 09:57 AM
I admit that it was a history making game. I used to think Mavs are 4th quarter team, now my imagination vanished. It looks mavs still need to work toward defensive ends. I hope they will beat Lakers pretty soon in their home court.
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| sanunani |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 10:12 AM
Oye Oyschill - ji
Don't laugh too early hai......things are yet to happen....
Failures are the stepping stones to success .....hoina ra????
Laker are nothing w/o Shaq....and of course for last night I will give credit to the Staples Center crowd too. But yes..the game was aweeesooome!!!!
Rusty-ji
Bichara knicks --tsk tsk
Shiva!Shiva -ji
MAVS are still good don't give up on 'em so soon...
I think now MAVS will face Lakers only in April of next year and I bet MAVS will beat the Lakers.
May the force be with MAVS!!!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 11:24 AM
Well...miracle happened... Kobe, not Shaq, and Lakers did what NBA history couldn't do... I think there's only one history before. I saw that kind of games only couple of time.. Once when the Kings were down by 34 against the Suns before the half time, and ended up with the win. Another, last play-offs when Celtics were down with the Nets....
Anyway, let me tell you this. The Lakers are still not prepared, but if they clinch the play-offs, they will mess up all other teams or whoever they confront:)
Am I the Mavs fan-- NO
Am I the Lakers fan -- Hell NO
Let's not chat about the Knicks...:(
I can see the fate of this thread. Only 300 postings allowed here. DO you guys want to continue??
Rust
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 04:40 PM
Shit happens...I couldn't sleep all night...what a shame....I don't think I'm gonna watch any game until the playoffs....
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 07-Dec-02 09:14 PM
That's it:)
The thread will be continued......
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