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Sanskrit 625 - Graduate level course

   Sanskrit 625 is designed for graduate le 28-Oct-02 jira
     Jira, I think I got the gist of it....Ka 28-Oct-02 dirk
       Glossary of Sanskrit Terms: SANSKRIT 626 28-Oct-02 shiva shiva!!
         Italian language has the feel of song in 28-Oct-02 DWI
           jira pitamaha, aham pathsala na gach 28-Oct-02 oys_chill
             Aham Sharanam Gachhami!!! 28-Oct-02 shiva shiva!!
               JiraJi, I am glad somebody is talking 28-Oct-02 Trikal
                 Trikal ji, what bout mero jokhana!! 29-Oct-02 oys_chill
                   Here go mine: From Gorkhapatra Daily: 29-Oct-02 M.P.
                     Here is one from me: PATRAM PATANI K 29-Oct-02 Shiva Shiva!!
                       Here are some pertinent sholkas: http:/ 29-Oct-02 dirk
                         Here is more from me(?): B baddha - 29-Oct-02 Shiva Shiva!!
                           Hi guys !!! ----- the divine langu 29-Oct-02 Trikal
                             Philosophy, Theology and Sanskrit Sa 29-Oct-02 Trikal
                               There is indeed a lot to learn from sans 30-Oct-02 Biruwa
                                 correction - bachaspati 30-Oct-02 Biruwa
                                   Hamra parm pujya guru dev Trikal maharaj 30-Oct-02 DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS)
                                     Sanskrit ma I give up bhanna ke bhanne n 30-Oct-02 lonely
                                       appui Trikal ka chautha kaal, bhuchaal j 30-Oct-02 KaLaNkIsThAn


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jira Posted on 28-Oct-02 11:40 AM

Sanskrit 625 is designed for graduate level students who are assumed to have basic
understanding and preliminary backgrounds in simple dialouges consisting of basic sanskrit words. This course is only offered from awunsi to parewa from 10.20 PM to 03.00 AM. Due to sporadic use of hallow words in course materials, student below 18 years of age are not recommended to join even though age restriction is not of high imporatance. Students are required to buy geru bastra from nearest campus bookstore before attending the lecture.

syllabus1 from previous class:

prasna-utaar kala - paath eka

Sisyam - Sastanga Dandawat pranam gurudev!
Gurudev - Awyusman bhawa sisya.
Gurudev - Ratri prahar aho pathum kama icchya nirbikaulpey
Sisyam - kama icchya nirbikaulpey..kintu.. aham gyana nirachyara
Gurudev - Mana bansey santaana prapti kama sicchya jarurata
Sisyam (ekkai swore ma) - Aham gyana nirachyara..Aham gyana nirachyara
Gurudev - Pratham prahar pabitra chitram dhenu lamaba dhasadhasum
Sisyam - kintu gurudev! itram chitram utram chitram..kicchu chitram pabitram
Gurudev - Moorkham! goala koondam mahapapum, trivhujakara dhasadhasum.
Sisyam - dhanya gurudev! Kama sicchya dibya chacchu, aham "became" sicchitum.
Gurudev - paschatya sabdo asambhaba, sanskrita sabdo yougey yougey...

ieti.

Class is suspended until further notice due to the sudden use of "Became", an unexpected use of english word which is considered profane for this kind of holy material taught in this class.
dirk Posted on 28-Oct-02 01:26 PM

Jira, I think I got the gist of it....Kama Sutra...cannot be taught by Gurudev..gotta go out on a limb here and just improvise, I suppose!!! That's the true Sisksha!
shiva shiva!! Posted on 28-Oct-02 02:29 PM

Glossary of Sanskrit Terms: SANSKRIT 626

A

a - non
abhaya - freedom from fear
abhinivesa - possessiveness
abhyasa - steady effort
acharya - a religious teacher
adhah - down
adhara - a support
adharma - breach of duty
adhibhuta - the principle of objective existence
adhidaiva - the principle of subjective existence
adhikari - competent candidate
adhimatra - superior
adhimatratama - the highest, the supreme one
adhisthana - seat, abode
adhiyajna - the principle of sacrifice, incarnation
adho-mukha - face downwards
adho mukha svanasana - the dog stretch posture
adhyasa - a case of mistaken identity
adhyatma - the principle of self
adrishta - the unseen (e.g. actions of invisible entities)
adisvara - the primeval lord, a name of Shiva
aditi - the mother of the gods
aditya - son of aditi
advaita - non-duality of the universal spirit
advasana - the prone posture
agama - proof of the trustworthiness of a source of knowledge
aham - I
ahamkara - tendency to identify oneself with external phenomena, 'the I-maker'
ahimsa - non-violence
aishvarya - desire for power
ajapa - involuntary repetition (as with a mantra)
ajna - command
akarna - towards the ear
akarna dhanurasana - the shooting bow posture
akasha - ether
akrodha - freedom from anger
alabhdha-bhumikatva - the feeling that it is impossible to see reality
alamba - support
alasya - idleness
amanaska - the mind free from desire
amrita - the elixir of immortality
anahata - unbeaten
ananda - bliss
Ananta - infinite, a name of Vishnu
anantasana - Ananta's posture
anga - a limb, or body part
angamejayatva - unsteadiness of the body
angula - a finger
angushtha - the big toe
Anjana - the name of the mother of Hanuman
anjaneyasana - the splits
antahkarana - the mind
antara - within
antaranga - the practices of pranayama and pratyahara
antaratma - the inner self, residing in the heart
anuloma - with the grain, naturally
anumana - an inference
apana - one of the vital airs, controls the elimination of bodily wastes
apara - lower
aparigraha - abstention from greed, non-possessiveness
apunya - vice
arama - pleasure garden
ardha - half
ardha-baddha padmottanasana - the half-lotus forward bend posture
ardha-chandrasana - the half-moon posture
ardha-matsyendrasana - the half spinal-twist posture
ardhanarishvara - Shiva and his Shakti united as one
ardha-navasana - the half-boat posture
ardha-padmasana - the half-lotus posture
ardha-salabhasana - the half-locust posture
ardha-sarvangasana - the half-shoulderstand posture
ardha-sirsasana - the half headstand posture
Arjuna - a disciple of Krishna, hero of the Mahabharata
asamprajnata - unconscious samadhi
asana - seat, posture
ashcharyavat - wonderful
ashram - a yoga centre or school
ashta - eight
Ashtavakra - name of a deformed sage
ashva - a horse
ashvini - a mudra: contraction of the anal sphincter muscles
asmita - egotism
asteya - non-stealing
atman - the self, supreme soul
atmiyata - the feeling of oneness
aum - all, the absolute
avarana - a veil
avastha - a state of the mind
avatara - a divine incarnation, e.g. Buddha. The ten avataras of Vishnu are: Matsya(the fish), Kurma(the tortoise), Varaha(the boar), Narasimha(the man- lion), Vamana(the dwarf), Parashurama, Rama, Krishna, Balarama, and Kalki. avidya - metaphysical ignorance
avirati - sensuality
ayama - length, extension, restraint

PEACE............
DWI Posted on 28-Oct-02 06:54 PM

Italian language has the feel of song into it. Latino sounds like 'salsa' with most of the words ending in 'o'.
Our own Sanskrit sounds like poetic rhymes, so serene and yet strong. Love it, even though the only thing I remember from my old class is Lavatam, Lavatey, Lavatani (one leaf, two leaves, many leaves).
Not to offend the language, coz I do respect it, but just in a lighter note:
Twam kim khanti? (what are u eating)
Mama Momo khanti.
oys_chill Posted on 28-Oct-02 06:59 PM

jira pitamaha,

aham pathsala na gachami, tatra pathayeta ithas maram dinam!
aham dhawami "ahile"(?)!

oys
shiva shiva!! Posted on 28-Oct-02 09:46 PM

Aham Sharanam Gachhami!!!
Trikal Posted on 28-Oct-02 10:01 PM

JiraJi,

I am glad somebody is talking about sanskrit....... I would like to add a small quote.......

Puranamityeva na sadhu sarvam
na capi kabyam navamityavadyam
santah pariksyanyatarad bhajante
mudhah parapratyataneyabuddhih

(Neither all old epics are good nor all new epics are bad. Wise man adopt one of them (good) by examination. Foolish follows deception..)
oys_chill Posted on 29-Oct-02 12:06 AM

Trikal ji,
what bout mero jokhana!!

tu me ba mata cha pita tumeba (in us hai ;))
tu me ba sarbam, mama deva deva!!!

oys;)
M.P. Posted on 29-Oct-02 01:02 AM

Here go mine:

From Gorkhapatra Daily:

Darbe bhawantu Sukhina
Sarbhe santu niraamayaa
Sarbhe bhadaani kaschyantu ma
Kaschid dukha bhaagjana

From 6 ho ki 7-class ko Sanskrit:

Karpura gauram Karunaa bataaram
Sansaar saaram Bhjagendra haaram
Sadaa basanta Hridayaara binde
Bhawam bhawaami Sahitam nawaami

[Artha lagaaing is left to the readers as an exercise].
Shiva Shiva!! Posted on 29-Oct-02 08:20 AM

Here is one from me:

PATRAM PATANI
KE CHA NANI JINDAGANI.
dirk Posted on 29-Oct-02 08:54 AM

Here are some pertinent sholkas:
http://www.geocities.com/dipalsarvesh/indexLanguage.html


Karaagre vasate lakshmii karamadhye sarasvatii
Karamuule tu govindah prabhaate karadarshanam ||

Meaning: Lakshmi, the Goddess of wealth, resides(vasate) in the fore-most(agre) part of the hands(kara), Saraswati, the Goddess of learning, resides in the palm (kara madhye=middle part of hand) Govinda, the Lord Narayana resides at the root (moola=root) i.e (near wrist). Therefore, every morning, one should have a respectful look at one's hand.

This shloka signifies that one should seek the blessings of Goddess Lakshmi and make honest effort to earn wealth to meet the necessities of life, seek the blessings of Goddess Saraswati and make honest effort to gain knowledge in the day and seek the blessings of Lord Narayana and dedicate the entire day's activities to Him.
Shiva Shiva!! Posted on 29-Oct-02 09:03 AM

Here is more from me(?):

B
baddha - caught
baddhahasta sirsasana - the bound hands headstand posture
bandha - binding, a muscular lock
bandha padmasana - the bound lotus posture
baka - a wading bird, the crane
Bali - a demon king
basti - method for cleaning the intestines
bhadrasana - the auspicious posture
bhagavad gita - the dialogues between Krishna and Arjuna
bhagavan - holy
Bhairava - terrible, one of the forms of Shiva
bhajana - a hymn
bhakti - devotion, worship
bhastrika - the bellows breath
bhati - light
bhavana - concentration
bhaya - fear
bheda - a division
bhedana - breaking through, piercing
bheka - a frog
bherunda - terrible
bherundasana - the formidable posture
bhoga - enjoyment
bhoktir - one who enjoys
bhramara - a large bee
bhramari - the bee breath
bhranti-darshana - a delusion
bhu - land
bhudana - the donation of land
bhuja - arm or shoulder
bhujanga - snake
bhujangasana - the cobra posture
bhujasana - the arm posture
bhumi - the object of meditation
bhumikatva - firm ground
bhuta - a ghost, an element
bija - seed
bindu - drop or point
bodhi - supreme knowledge
Brahma - the creator
Brahmins - the highest, priestly caste
brahmacharya - control of sexual impulses
brahmacharyasana - the posterior stretch posture
brahmadvara - the door where kundalini enters the spine
brahmanda-prana - cosmic breath
Buddha - Buddha
buddhi - wisdom, reason
Trikal Posted on 29-Oct-02 10:51 AM

Hi guys !!!

----- the divine language, the perfect language
the magical language, the musical language -------


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Why Study Sanskrit?
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Introduction

The study of languages is always fascinating. For this reason alone, one can study or learn Sanskrit. The members of the Samskritapriyah group are more than fascinated by this language. They come from different disciplines and have had a long lasting association with Sanskrit. This group, comprising scientists, linguistic scholars, computer scientists, Indologists and above all, well respected Sanskrit scholars, feels convinced that there are aspects to Sanskrit not yet seen or observed in other languages.
While the lessons are the primary means to learning the language, the information presented alongside will more than arouse the curiosity of the reader. It must be emphasized that the views expressed here are not intended to start a big debate on the language itself. The group has carefully studied the information presented here, for validity, correctness and authenticity. As a consequence, the information should appeal to the scientific mind.

DISCLAIMER: The Views expressed here are specific to the Samskritapriyah group and the Samskrit Education Society, Chennai. IIT Madras, has only made available the web pages as a courtesy to the group.
Sanskrit, earliest of the ancient languages.
There is sufficient evidence available today to say that Sanskrit is the oldest language of the world.
Among the current languages which possess a hoary antiquity like Latin or Greek, Sanskrit is the only language which has retained its pristine purity. It has maintained its structure and vocabulary even today as it was in the past.

The oldest literature of the world, the Vedas, the Puranas and the Ithihasas which relate to the Indian subcontinent, are still available in the same form as they were known from the very beginning. There are many many scholars in India who can interpret them today, much the same way great scholars of India did years ago. Such interpretation comes not by merely studying earlier known interpretations but through a steady process of assimilation of knowledge linking a variety of disciplines via Sanskrit.

Sanskrit is as modern as any language can be
Sanskrit is very much a spoken language today. Even now, as we enter the twenty first century, Sanskrit is spoken by an increasing number of people, thankfully many of them young. Among the learned in India, it continues to be a bridge across different states where people, in spite of their own mother tongue, use it to exchange scholarly and even general information relating to the traditions of the country. The News service offered by the Government of India through television and radio continues to feature daily Sanskrit program catering to local as well as international news.
The grammar of Sanskrit has attracted scholars world over. It is very precise and upto date and remains well defined even today. Of late, several persons have expressed the opinion that Sanskrit is the best language for use with computers. The Samskritapriyah group does not subscribe to this view however.

Sanskrit is a Scientist's paradise

Sanskrit, the vocabulary of which is derived from root syllables, is ideal for coining new scientific and technological terms. The need to borrow words or special scientific terms does not arise.
From the very beginning, scientific principles have been hidden in the verses found in the Vedas, Upanishads and the great epics of India. Concepts and principles seen in present day mathematics and astronomy, are all hidden in the compositions and treatises of many early scholars of the country. Some of these principles and concepts will be shown in the information section that will accompany the lessons.

Linguistics

The precise and extremely well defined structure of Sanskrit, coupled with its antiquity offers a number of areas in linguistics research including Computational Linguistics. Also, Sanskrit distinguishes itself in that it is the only known language which has a built-in scheme for pronunciation, word formation and grammar.
Sanskrit, a language for Humanity
Sanskrit is a language for humanity and not merely a means for communication within a society. The oldest surviving literature of the world, viz. the Vedas, encompass knowledge in virtually every sphere of human activity. The fact that many profound principles relating to human existence were given expression through Sanskrit, continue to amaze those who study Sanskrit. A Sanskrit Scholar understands the world better than most others.
Sanskrit perfectly depicted (and continues to depict) the social order of the day and offers clues to historical developments within the Society. The language has been used effectively describe the virtuous and the not so virtuous qualities of great men, women, kings and queens, the philosophers and Saints of the country.
Trikal Posted on 29-Oct-02 10:51 AM

Philosophy, Theology and Sanskrit

Sanskrit abounds in Philosophy and Theology related issues. There are so many words one encounters within Sanskrit that convey subtly differing meanings of a concept that admits of only one interpretation when studied with other languages. The language thus has the ability to offer links between concepts using just the words.
Sanskrit for your emotions
The connoisseurs of the Sanskrit language know that it is the language of the heart. Whatever be the emotion one wishes to display, be it devotion, love, affection, fear, threat, anger, compassion, benevolence, admiration, surprise and the like, the most appropriate words of Sanskrit can flow like a gushing stream.
Some Unique Characteristics of the language
Sanskrit is co-original with the Vedas.. The vedas cannot be studied without the Vedangas, which are six in number. The first three deal with the spoken aspects of the language. The first of these three, namely Siksha, tells us how to pronounce the letters of the aksharas. Siksha divides the letters into three classes- Swaras, Vyanjanas and Oushmanas. Depending on the effort (Prayatna), place of origin in the body (Sthana), the force used (bala) and the duration of time (Kala), the letters differ from each other in their auditory quality and meaning.
Vyakarna, known as the grammar of Sanskrit, is the second Vedanga which describes meaningful word formations. This is usually referred to as Sphota or meaningful sound.

The third Vedanga, Niruktam, describes certain fundamental root words used in the Vedas. Classification of words into groups of synonyms is an example. For instance, approximately a hundred and twenty synonyms for water are given in Nirukta.

The fourth Vedanga, Chandas, describes the formation of sentences in metrical form. Unlike English which used a very limited number of metres (basically four), Sanskrit offers about two dozen Vedic metres and innumerable conventional metres.

The remaining two Vedangas, Kalpa and Jyothisha deal with space and time.

The letters of Sanskrit


Sanskrit comprises fifty one letters or aksharas. In other languages, we refer to the letters of the alphabet of the language. We know that the word alphabet is derived from the names of the first two letters of Greek. The term alphabet has no other meaning except to denote the set of letters in the language.

In contrast, the word "akshara" in Sanskrit denotes something fundamental and significant. One of the direct meanings of the word is that it denotes the set of letters of Sanskrit from the first to the last. The word also means that the sound of the letter does not ever get destroyed and thus signifies the eternal quality of the sound of the letters. The consequence of this meaning is that the sound of a word is essentially the sounds of the aksharas in the word, a concept which will help simplify text to speech applications with computers.

There are two aspects of non destruction in the above explanation. The first one refers to the phonetic characteristics of the language, i.e., in any word, the aksharas retain their sound. The second aspect of non destruction, amazingly, is that the aksharas retain their individual meanings as well! To give an example, the word "guru" consisting of the aksharas "gu" and "ru" stands for a teacher- one who dispels darkness (ignorance) of the the mind (person). "gu" means darkness and "ru" means the act of removal.

Now, aren't we beginning to see something very interesting?

The popular Sanskrit language is based on root syllables and words. Unlike the other languages of the world, every word in Sanskrit is derived from a root. It is a well accepted fact that all Indo-European languages have a common origin. On the basis of the above mentioned fact that all the words of Sanskrit are traceable to specific roots, a feature not seen in other languages, one can presume that Sanskrit is most certainly the origin.

Massive, yet precise

One can learn Sanskrit purely for the sake of the great epics of India. The Ramayana has 24,000 verses fully in metre and the Mahabharata qualifies as the world's largest epic with 100,000 verses. The Mahabharata says, "what is here may be elsewhere, what is not here is nowhere." The precision with which the verses convey information on so many different aspects of life in a society, is a factor one must reckon as the ultimate in composition.
Biruwa Posted on 30-Oct-02 04:06 PM

There is indeed a lot to learn from sanskrit and the accompanying philosophy. The manu smiriti to bachanpati's discourse on "yog" and other matters can be learned only by a reasonable (working) knowledge of sanskrit.

I am definitely impressed by Trikal guru's post and the definition (true meaning) of guru and "akshar". The Nepali language has its "udgam" in Sanskrit and it is only from Sanskrit that we can truely understand the world.

Om Shanti!Om Shanti!Om Shanti! :-)
Biruwa Posted on 30-Oct-02 04:10 PM

correction - bachaspati
DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) Posted on 30-Oct-02 04:42 PM

Hamra parm pujya guru dev Trikal maharajka sumadhur bani haru sunera jo sukai ko pani man harshonbit huncha. Baje rupi adwitiya ganaalaya dekhera ma kritaktya chu. Trikal jasta aru dui bidwan haru hune ho bhane aaj sanskrit bhasama lekhiyeka granthaharuko samaya sapecchya rupantar gari purbi ra pashmi darshan ko sangam garauna kunai kathinai hune thiyena. Mero sano mantabya aba yehi tungincha.

Ghar jane bela bhayo kya.................
lonely Posted on 30-Oct-02 06:34 PM

Sanskrit ma I give up bhanna ke bhanne ni..tya pani sikaidinu paryo ni..suruma..

I quit bhanna paryo bhane ke bhanne..

Maile pani padheko thiye sanskrit 4-7 samma tara sabai birsisakeko rahechhu..yo here ra balla thaha bhayo..

It was long time back ahile samma ka samjhana sakinchha ra...last semester ko cooooourse ta birse sakyo..teti bela guchha khelda kheri ko ka yaaad hunchha ra...tara this moght be applicable to me only...

Are there any way you could take a crash course in sanskrit?

Gurudev sujhav dinu hunchha ki?
KaLaNkIsThAn Posted on 30-Oct-02 07:11 PM

appui Trikal ka chautha kaal, bhuchaal jyu chamkyaa!!
Ke bho baaje? Mero Idea apna jasto cha ni. Single mole on the rocks?
Baaje ta gazal gaa ko gai cha... ?
Ke ho yesto?

Jira jyu, Its all GREEK to me yaar.
Ke TNB greek bolya hola, sanskrit bhanera

hamlai ni aaucha little little sanskrit
Kassam!!
sunam?
:yam bramha barunerudra maruta satuwanti dibyai sataberdai
sangpaad karomi pani sardai garyayenti yem syamaga dhyana
besteta ta dagtena mansa pasayenti yem yogino yesyanta na bidu
sursura gana devaaye tasme nama....."

Madev le guleli le hanlaan ni.
pugyo