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   As the old adage goes: Good things come 03-Nov-02 SimpleGal
     Not to forget the phucchay wishes like l 03-Nov-02 Junkie
       Junkieji, Yes, you bring up a pertinent 03-Nov-02 SimpleGal
         hmmmm SimpleGal you aren't that simple a 03-Nov-02 Junkie
           Anyone who has traveled, lived and worke 03-Nov-02 SIWALIK
             Aspire for 'big things' to progress, enj 03-Nov-02 Nepe
               Siwalik,Though I have never visited rur 04-Nov-02 bideshi
                 Aah ...... think big, but smoke small :- 04-Nov-02 Junkie
                   Nepe ji The ever sensible "balancer" 04-Nov-02 SITARA
                     What is this life if, full of care, We 04-Nov-02 Logical Sense
                       To visualise the big picture The small 04-Nov-02 nayabato
                         Interesting posting Simplegal Ji. Sim 04-Nov-02 protean
                           LS-ji !!! Words aren't enough to say 04-Nov-02 SimpleGal
                             SimpleGal: Without a doubt, you have the 04-Nov-02 slipknot
                               SimpleGalji, I am glad to energize the m 04-Nov-02 Logical Sense
                                 Slipknot is the biggest suckup I have ev 04-Nov-02 bhedo
                                   Bhedo ji..... You are truly amazing h 04-Nov-02 SITARA
                                     Looking at all the postings makes me rem 04-Nov-02 cardinal
                                       Cardinal Ji, Fine observations and a ve 04-Nov-02 protean
Sitara , talk to the hand. I was just pr 04-Nov-02 bhedo
   Bhedo: I'd like to pause for a moment in 04-Nov-02 slipknot
     It's so damn obvious Slipknot and Svenga 04-Nov-02 bhedo
       Lau lau, ke bhaira chha yaha???? Let 04-Nov-02 SimpleGal
         " You can <b>suck <b> on some of them if 04-Nov-02 bhedo
           Cardinalji, Excellent point you make--a 04-Nov-02 SimpleGal
             As noted above by SimplegalJi and myself 05-Nov-02 protean
               Protean ji You have bestowed upon me th 05-Nov-02 SITARA
                 Atti garnu tara aatyachar na garnu Sitar 05-Nov-02 Junkie
                   Sitara , You steal the show....You are 05-Nov-02 Zero_creativity
                     Simplegal, nice thoughts....it is true t 05-Nov-02 Dilasha
                       aaaaaaaaai aaaaaaaaaaaai aaaaaaaaaaaaaai 05-Nov-02 SITARA
                         Dilasha Krishnamurti eh? O my god!... 05-Nov-02 SITARA
                           Now I understand this last part Sitara j 05-Nov-02 Junkie
                             Posted on 11-04-02 4:28 PM Reply l 06-Nov-02 starry night
                               Sitaraji, being able to appreciate when 06-Nov-02 protean
                                 Oops missed my train of thought here... 06-Nov-02 protean
                                   Another Deusire mood typo * uncalled fo 06-Nov-02 protean
                                     Lekhna Nepali ma sajilo ...... tara padh 06-Nov-02 Junkie
                                       Protean ji I have read Vivek Ananda. 07-Nov-02 SITARA
How about Osho Rajneesh? Has anyone read 07-Nov-02 AT
   AT ji But ofcourse, OSHO too. Very in 07-Nov-02 SITARA
     Slipknot, You gave me, in our conversa 13-Nov-02 SimpleGal
       Ahem! Ke ho yesto??? Poonte damai ta 13-Nov-02 Poonte
         SimpleGal: I had merely bounced off a 13-Nov-02 slipknot
           Kyaaaaaaa Poonte damai dai ho ki bhai: S 13-Nov-02 slipknot
             (Ankha pil pil, pil pil gardai)... Ma 13-Nov-02 Poonte
               Slipknot, Uta "Illustrators" thread ma 14-Nov-02 SimpleGal
                 Hey SimpleGal, poet ta ma latar patar ma 14-Nov-02 slipknot
                   Slipknot dai :), You are too kind to 14-Nov-02 SimpleGal
                     My simple thing of the day: I was tal 15-Nov-02 SimpleGal
                       small things that bring joy to me -- the 18-Nov-02 baadal


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SimpleGal Posted on 03-Nov-02 07:47 AM

As the old adage goes: Good things come in small packages.

Have you ever wondered how much we, as human beings, are so pre-occupied with the grand scheme of things, the gradiosity of life, the relentless rat-race and tug o' war for "big" things---big dreams, big achievements, big name, big pay check.....the list goes on. So much so that the "small" things in life become brutally sidelined, diminished to the point of utter obscurity and even non-existence. How many of us stop to think or hear or see or touch the little things that pass us by in the midst of all the hustle and bustle of our lives?
Come to think of it, even our senses have become exclusively and progressively more attuned to the gory and the grapevine. Most of us prick up our ears at the mention of the ravages of humanity---people being massacred, women being raped, countries in political upheaval, burglaries, psychopathic killings....But the little bundles of joy---the birth of a new baby, the triumph of a teenager in love, the silent acknowledgement by spouses of each other's "presence" in their lives at the end of a long day---that show and let us know of the immense human capability for good and love, are rarely given scope, either in writings that seek to disperse news of the happenings in human lives, or in conversations over coffee.
I thought we should, on some level, strive to acknowledge those Good things that come in Small packages in life. And I think Ruckji's initiative to collect a dime a day is an instance where such a gesture "moves" toward the creation of people, intentions, and actions which remind us of and empower us with the ability to in turn empower the small things in life that go a long way.
I hope that we will be able to share with each other here the happenings of human life.
Am reminded of a little nursery song:
Little drops of water, little grains of sand,
Make the mighty ocean,
And the pleasant land,
Little deeds of kindness,
Little words of love,
Make our earth an Eden,
Like the Heaven above!

In peace.
Junkie Posted on 03-Nov-02 08:20 AM

Not to forget the phucchay wishes like longing for directions and dependence ...... Got Amae? ......

Fortunately the baba-jee responded :-)

Ruck ji, good luck on your quest, hope the dime a day makes someone's day!!!!
SimpleGal Posted on 03-Nov-02 08:40 AM

Junkieji,
Yes, you bring up a pertinent notion---the Japanese concept of the Amae---or complete dependence. With all the hue and cry about being "independent" and thereby plunging people, esp. the young generation, (aba you could be "thrown" into it, as well!! ;)) into the rat-race of "big" and "independent" dreams, this need for dependence that we all have is de-emphasized, increasingly even in our Nepali culture. The rustic and simplicity of life whose memories we, as Nepalis in foreign lands, cherish and try to revive in variant ways (sajha being one such medium) seems to be fading in Nepal itself. Again, the small things are being swept off, with educators and scholars trying to implement "modernity" (whatever that means!!) into our culture. Which is fine, as our country needs to develop in many directions. However, and this is not just in Nepal, the potential for positivity in small things is what is jarringly being obliterated.

In peace.
Junkie Posted on 03-Nov-02 11:17 AM

hmmmm SimpleGal you aren't that simple afterall. Well said!
SIWALIK Posted on 03-Nov-02 08:46 PM

Anyone who has traveled, lived and worked in rural Nepal will have no problem in understanding that is how most Nepalese live their lives: joy in small things--little joy of dohari, a little "khyal thatta", a puff of cigarette, a sip of chang, a rest in the pipal shade during an uphill walk, a brief moment taking off the "namlo" from their head, a drink of water from the bamboo sprout... countless small things... See it to believe it.
Nepe Posted on 03-Nov-02 09:46 PM

Aspire for 'big things' to progress, enjoy 'small things' for peace. One is not enough. You need both progress and peace in life.
bideshi Posted on 04-Nov-02 10:38 AM

Siwalik,Though I have never visited rural parts of Nepal,i can figure it out!We don't have to see that to believe!We can feel those moments and understand!How much small small thing in life brings peace of mind and a lot of joy!We ,always dream of big things in life ,but that might never gives us peace and satisfaction in the end!But small ,unthinkable things make our everyday life full of surprises,and sometimes gives us a lot of relief and peace! ANd worth to live for!
Junkie Posted on 04-Nov-02 11:15 AM

Aah ...... think big, but smoke small :-0
SITARA Posted on 04-Nov-02 11:28 AM

Nepe ji

The ever sensible "balancer" of polarities! Bravo!

The big things in life: Compassion, Tolerance, Courage, Empathy, Forgiveness...........and Love, to achieve the state of mind which appreciates the small things in life!
Logical Sense Posted on 04-Nov-02 12:22 PM

What is this life if, full of care,
We have no time to stand and stare?

No time to stand beneath the boughs
And stare as long as sheep or cows.

No time to see, when woods we pass,
Where squirrels hide their nuts in grass.

No time to see, in broad daylight,
Streams full of stars, like skies at night.

No time to turn at Beauty’s glance,
And watch her feet, how they can dance.

No time to wait till her mouth can
Enrich that smile her eyes began.

A poor life this if, full of care,
We have no time to stand and stare.

W. H. Davies, from The Book of 1000 Poems
(HarperCollins, 1994)
nayabato Posted on 04-Nov-02 01:43 PM

To visualise the big picture
The small things in life cannot be forgotten
Then what is this small joys
When one cannot stabilise the social democratic system
Yes the drink by the shadows away from the suns ray
Does bring us that little satisfaction
Like the simple dal and bhat
After day that has drained your resources
What good does it to us
To have aspirations and dreams
When one has to look out for
The one you thought
Was a friend in the dark with the knife
What is good about these words
When it only complicates the simple life
What is love, compassion, empathy, courage
When all has been lost
In this world
Full of hate, greed, corruption, heartlessness
Who is right and who is not
What does it matter
All has been lost
But where has it all disappeared
In thin air?
Or is still in us
So deep inside that forgetfulness has set in?
Money money money money
The new and beautiful word
Money Money Money
It only brings out the worst in people
Money Money
Still the one and only word
This advanced society understands
Money
What good are those simple joys
When development, capitalism and communism
Comes round the corner
Surely the notion of that simple life
Will come to take us away to new elevated heights
Still have to work for it?
Then what was wrong with the ways of the old
At least we smiled, smiled and listened to the old
Enjoying that story by some grandfather
now consumed
By this education, prosperity
oh yes the development
how could it be forgotten....

4/11/2002
protean Posted on 04-Nov-02 02:38 PM

Interesting posting Simplegal Ji.

Simple living and high thinking has always been purported to be the way towards
happiness and success in life. As the great Buddha, Gandhiji (and othes have) showed us, it is by doing so, that one can finally attain the best in ourselves.

He was able to launch a movement with these simple steps that was able to reach the hearts and move the spirits of the nation. Just the intellectual or the "Quid Pro Quo," approach of fighting back with violence, might not have provided the people in India the zeal to get involved in such a pervasive movement. Bascially, taking the simple road, Gandhi, was able to able to reach the heart and soul of his country people.

We, human beings, sometimes get lost in the myriads of details, and complexities in this
life, and tend to forget the real purpose of living.
Let me give a Mango Tree anlogy: The fruit of it is the mango itself, and everyone knows that. It seems that we tend to look at Mango tree, study itsleaves, the workings of the grove, the way to increase the production, and increase the profits and all, but we simply fail to appreciate the mango and enjoy its taste.
The real bliss comes in using what is simply reachable and often ignored. I guess sometimes serendipity takes us to follow these routes, but we do enjoy it when we can.

Once, there was a point , when having got lost in a hiking route, we ended up in such a place, which offerend an amazing view. Of course, we were bemoaning the fact that we were late with our planned (and detailed) schedule, and how hungry we were. But, after getting to this place, everything was secondary. I suppose the joy of getting out from the rat race to the open is because of such reasons-- to share the delights of the intangible and unexplained benefits that nature offers.


But, that doesn't mean we simply abandon everything and head towards the forest. -:) (wish I could do that). It is simply being aware of existence and value of the simple things that life offers. Even Mastercard--which is a product of the rat race world acknowledges the fact that for eveythign there is mastercard, but for somethings there is not. It's like finding water after a tortorous hike all day--imagine how important the sight of water would be at that moment?

I think, we need to appreciate both the grandeur and the beauty of the ocean ,but at the same time value the drops of water that build it. Marvel at the composition of the stars in the Univerese, and try to unserstand how they got there in the first place. In science, it would be the atoms that comprise the elements, the compounds, and the mixtures that are the building blocks to life and everything about us and around us.

I think appreciating simple and small thing gives you the peace of mind, and is sublime in nature. A fine combination of the complexities and the simplicities of life is what makes
it so interesting and mysterious, and also makes us realize who and what we're.

Having said so, I'll start by appreciating this very relevant posting!
SimpleGal Posted on 04-Nov-02 02:39 PM

LS-ji !!!

Words aren't enough to say how HAPPY I feel right now to see the LOVELIEST poem I've ever read in my life, that you so APTLY quoted here!!! Muri Muri Dhanyabaad!!

I read this W.H. Davies' "Leisure" poem when I was 6 years old, and clearly remember how I absolutely LOVED it!!!! And fell deeply in love with----Poetry. To this day, it reverberates in my memory the way the sight of the "Solitary Reaper" did for Wordsworth----"The music in my heart I bore / Long after it was heard no more." This singular poem has been etched indelibly into my life.

Thanks once again!! For bringing old memories flooding back to me. Although this "[poem]in my heart I [bear] / [no matter what, when, or where]".....

In peace.
slipknot Posted on 04-Nov-02 03:22 PM

SimpleGal: Without a doubt, you have the capacity to swiftly reach out to myriad things with a grasp clearly of refined intellectual strength. From Lolita to Favorite Writer to this thread now (and many more that I am unaware of, I am sure), I have found the positive stimulation you have provided to people and that has really helped bring out interesting ideas to this Sajha Forum. A small deed, indeed, on your part but then its consequences are of giant proportions and far reaching. Thanks for your energizing of people's minds.

Peace :)
Logical Sense Posted on 04-Nov-02 04:22 PM

SimpleGalji, I am glad to energize the mind of a persion who energizes mind of many poeple including me!

Slipknot as you notice I agree with you!

Simply great original thread, as always!!!!!
bhedo Posted on 04-Nov-02 04:28 PM

Slipknot is the biggest suckup I have ever met in my life! Yeah, like sucking up in a website is gonna land you a woman in real life.
SITARA Posted on 04-Nov-02 04:41 PM

Bhedo ji.....

You are truly amazing hajur! You have somehow managed to visit this thread, about the simple things in life!!!! and yet.........

Sure being a SIMPLETON is also one of them!!!

Enjoy the simple state of possesing a simple mind! Hajur!

:)
cardinal Posted on 04-Nov-02 04:46 PM

Looking at all the postings makes me remember,
philosophers and dreamers die of hunger.
protean Posted on 04-Nov-02 04:59 PM

Cardinal Ji,
Fine observations and a very practical one.

But,I feel that dreaming and philosophising makes life vibrant. The zeal and vision that you can have is fueled by having a dream. Then, you simply follow you dreams with passion.

By the way, dreaming only adds excitement don't you think?

And you don't have to starve just because you dream? Marveling at the wonders of the sky and looking at the beautiful ocean only enriches your spririt. Actually, it makes you work harder and exporing other simplicites that exists. It doens't make you gow any hungrier. That's what I believe.

Protean
bhedo Posted on 04-Nov-02 05:01 PM

Sitara , talk to the hand. I was just protecting my didi from hooligans like Slipknot .
slipknot Posted on 04-Nov-02 05:10 PM

Bhedo: I'd like to pause for a moment in silence in memory of all the brain cells you have lost, I mean all three of them you started out with. May the rest of your being also RIP (rest in piss)!!!

And what do you know about sucking up? I can suck up like there's no tomorrow, until my lungs almost burst in pleasure, savoring every trickle that flows my way. And no, I am not talking about the brown nosing you do, digging filth from every gutter. You've gotta suck up at the right places, for that euphoric pleasure, with an ecstatic rythm at the "teats of ideas" [Svengali, Your Chosen Writer...]. But then, why am I even toturing you mind, you wouldn't know of any such pleasure. Since now your mind is dwelling in the abyss of gutter, forget it pal, send me your address, I will send you a few bucks you can use towards a purchase of a blow up doll.

Rest In Piss!
bhedo Posted on 04-Nov-02 05:27 PM

It's so damn obvious Slipknot and Svengali are one and the same. Keeps tooting his own horn. Hahah, it's so damn funny.
As for my brain, what do you know? Ever heard of neurogenesis????

Blow up doll (duplicate of a female pornstar, that I use) is better than that green dildo you like using up and down your fecal hole.

Yeah, of course we all know you like sucking - sucking old men walking on crutches, and as you so eloquently put it, you do get that "euphoric pleasure" by doing so.
SimpleGal Posted on 04-Nov-02 06:06 PM

Lau lau, ke bhaira chha yaha????

Let's not stoop down to the personal and the petty anyone!! Aja Laxmi puja....the beginning of an auspicious celebration not only of financial prosperity, but also and more so of mutual love for each other---brothers, sisters, families, communities.....Humanity.

Slipknotji & LS-ji, appreciate your comments.

Pyaro bhai Bhedo,
Timi le yo didi ko rakshya garne chivalrous deed ley tiharai jhill-mill banaidiyau....how sweet. Tara aba gyani bhai bhaera didi ko sano request pani mana la? Ahile sanai chhau timi...ali kati thulo bhaye pacchi Phaeet garnu la "hooligans" haru sanga. Ahile lai boru saathi haru sanga deusi khelna jau ....Halloween ko trick or treat ma gaun ghar ka baccha harulai diyera ubhriyeka thuprai Lollipops banki chhan. You can suck on some of them if you like, hunchha?

In peace.
bhedo Posted on 04-Nov-02 07:46 PM

" You can suck on some of them if you like, hunchha? "

Hahahhaah. Very clever SimpleGal didi. "Suck" ta sabai ko favorite word jasto cha ni.

Didi, mero mukh ma lollipop haldinu na.
SimpleGal Posted on 04-Nov-02 09:01 PM

Cardinalji,
Excellent point you make--and a very pragmatic one indeed.

In reference to the focus that I, along with several other writers here, have attempted to place on the "small" things in life, may I quote the man TIME magazine voted as Man of the Century: Albert Einstein---"Imagination is more important than Knowledge." Knowledge is like the blocks that children use to build things. But without imagination, those blocks do not take shape, however "amorphous" or incongruent it may turn out to be with respect to our schemas of perfect geometric shapes. I am talking on a more "surface" level here, merely standing on the shoulders of the giants in cognitive developmental psychology. I do not wish to delve too deeply at this point. Unless, of course, further interest in this area is kindled.

So, if with imagination we are able to "create" shapes, then by the same token we are able to generate in us, and I am now switching gears from the scientific to the philosophical plane, the ability to quench that thirst or fill that hunger through an extensive and intensive exploration, dreaming, or whatever else you may term it of the particular phenomenon, feeling, or fascination, etc. of your pursuit. Now this pursuit may be philosophical, biological, mythological, psychological, pathological, or simply Illogical :) Nevertheless, as long as that "hunger" or feeling of "void" in the pit of the stomach that dreamers, businessmen, academicians and other people in their own right and through their own paths seek to fulfill is in fact filled, then we are home free. This brings me to the issue that I broached on in the Psych. of Food thread. And Proteanji, you marvelously pointed out the need to differentiate between "foods" for various aspects/facets of life (let's say biological, for now) and living (spiritual, soul-related, etc for now). People hunger for different things. But Cardinalji, your point is well taken. Indeed, dreamers and philosophers die hungry----but on what aspect/facet of life and living do they die hungry---and what of the same do they live and die fulfilled? We come full circle to the remarkable remark of Einstein, to answer this question: Imagination is more important than Knowledge.
For imagination makes the monotony of life a transformation into small and simple appreciation of THAT (rather than why's and how's etc) we are here.

In peace.
protean Posted on 05-Nov-02 01:18 PM

As noted above by SimplegalJi and myself, CarindalJi's points of view are very pertinent
and brings us to reality.

Very well said Simplegalji. You've beautifully and articulately combined the mysteries of science, and all other fields, and broguth them to the context of living, to illustrate the need for imagination for creation.

The food analogies and the concepts of its various forms (biliogical, spiritual, knoweldge-based etc. ) was actually the creation of the ever so eloquent Sitaraji. I was only trying to add my twist to this matter.

But, I still feel that to have a dream is gives you the fervor and drive in life. I feel that the curiosity of [creating an opportunity] to find the sublime in the simple (yet probably the most important) things that life offers and that is existent in the world should drive us to harder to pursue such small (yet beautiful and grand) things in life.
Most of the discoveries in the world today are a result of this dream and being able to ponder at small things.

As Richard Feynman, one of the most productive,,respected, and brillant physicists of all times-- one of the icons in the sciencenfic feld in the US in the middle of the 20th century (the great advocter of science and curiosity)-- used to say, "I wonder why I wonder..,".


I think, to dream, is to bring forth the best in us. I would like to quote Tagore from his Gitanjali, " When the old words die out on the tongue ,new melodies come forth from the heart; when old tracks are lost, the country is revealed with new wonders,". So, I feel to get novel ways to life, dream could be a key.
Dreaming and imagining ,I think, is the way to create, and to add the extra "oomph" in life.
Knowledge without imagination actually fades away, but when added with passions and dreams, it can be enabled to take gargantuan strides.
SITARA Posted on 05-Nov-02 02:19 PM

Protean ji
You have bestowed upon me the title of "ever so eloquent, Sitara", which although undeserved, leaves me with a warm feeling. Oh! how human am I that the mere stroking of my ego goes a long way to make my day! But thank you hajur, as I decline such a lofty title; I am but a mere pawn seduced by the simple things of life....a product of my own ego, which (no matter how hard I attempt at discarding) rears its ugly head and soothes my hunger for appreciation! Again a simple desire in life...to be appreciated for who "I" (generic I) am, what "I" think and how "I" perceive life!

The simple things in life: The pure appreciation of simple existence; of being surrounded by unconditional friendship; of having shared a candid relationship; of being able to resume a friendship without having to justify the absence; of those moments of silence where words express less; of having walked in the pouring rain, drenched to the skin and reveling in the joys of nature; of basking in the warmth of the setting sun with eyes closed; of the soft orang-purple hue bathing your face in the tender light; of trekking through the treacherous trails of the mountains to glimpse a "jhalak" of play of light and shadow; of inhaling the clear, cold mountain air while keeping warm in the embrace of the one you love; of laying atop the mountain counting the flickering stars....reminiscing the past while secure in the present; of listening to the silence that echoes around the mountains and reverberates in your heart; of living in the present for the sheer joy of living!

The simple things in life for me is, reveling in the mystery of life itself!
Junkie Posted on 05-Nov-02 04:10 PM

Atti garnu tara aatyachar na garnu Sitara jyu ....... Satya dhateko hoina ...... kahilay tah have to read your postings twice, scratch my head .... ani balla bhujchha.

Tara yo tah atti bhayo, read it twice, even scratched my head. Tara bhujhena. Aba don't tell me it's cuz I haven't smoked enuff.

Hamro lagee (or the rare specimens like me ko lagee) bhaye pani .... one, two liner summary lekhnu hola .... et-de-end
Zero_creativity Posted on 05-Nov-02 04:45 PM

Sitara ,
You steal the show....You are the real STAR of this Sajhapur. Those metaphors you used to express the simple things in life same as Poet Javed Akther used to express a beauty of girl in " Ek Ladki Ko dekha to yesa laga........" Indeed you are a great writer. You have a great skills to express your feelings.

Keep on posting.....

Simply your fan

Zero creativity
Dilasha Posted on 05-Nov-02 05:54 PM

Simplegal, nice thoughts....it is true that in our attempts to chase our bigger dreams and aspirations, we tend to ignore the importance of smaller things in life thus taking them for granted. In a world where we're constantly busy pointing fingers at others we tend to forget that the three little fingers are pointing at ourselves thus neglecting to examine our inner selves. Like even to say a "thank you" or "i'm sorry" which are so important in our lives we sometimes forget how important those words are and of course those "little bundles of joy" as you mentioned are really what make our life worth living. This thread reminds me of my spiritual guru JK Krishnamurti.
SITARA Posted on 05-Nov-02 06:05 PM

aaaaaaaaai aaaaaaaaaaaai aaaaaaaaaaaaaai!!!!!!!!

Oh! my beating heart overflowing with such warm sentiments!!!!!!!! Do I really deserve such compliments?

I feel overwhelmed! But thank you.... :)

Zero_creativity ji and junky ji
SITARA Posted on 05-Nov-02 06:09 PM

Dilasha

Krishnamurti eh? O my god!... I adore his reason, logic and philosophy of life!

So logical and yet so difficult to follow!
Junkie Posted on 05-Nov-02 08:14 PM

Now I understand this last part Sitara jyu .....

It's so true though. The law is so simple (maybe logical too), but it's difficult not to, you know, smoke...... :-)
starry night Posted on 06-Nov-02 01:50 PM

Posted on 11-04-02 4:28 PM Reply
lipknot is the biggest suckup I have ever met in my life! Yeah, like sucking up in a website is gonna land you a woman in real life.

lol! you are soo funny. hehe.
protean Posted on 06-Nov-02 02:24 PM

Sitaraji, being able to appreciate when one is being appreciated ,is also one of the simplest (and also one of the greatest) things in life.
There are times, when whatever one does,one isn't simply given the due credit for--not that everyone wants credit, but being [truly] appreciated is sometimes positively reinforcing.
However, being ostentatious in nature, or crowing about accolades or titles that have been bestowed, is also uncalled for. This would then imply not taking the simple pleasures of life, but actually a display of snobbery.


I was just trying to give credit to you as it was due, and the fact that how and what I brought out, is really true. I wanted to bring to light the fact that you came up with the food analogies, and that too in a very mellifluous and coherent manner. So, you should accept this matter as it stands--gracefully.:-). What art thou to say?


It was good to know that what was said left you with a warm feeling. That's how it should be. Keep up the "ever so articulate" dharaprabhav from your end at Sajha.


As far your statements about pleasures of life is concerned, isn't that the ultimate pleasure one soughts for? Are we too occupied that life slips by wiht

Enjoyed the part on:

[living in the present for the sheer joy of living.The simple things in life for me is, reveling in the mystery of life itself!]


I might add that the Joy of living is simply being able to look at the simplest pleasures that life offers. For attempting to unfold the mysteries of the life itself, appreciating what one has, and appreciating the best in others. Looking at the grandeur of the ocean, while still accepting that it has been there and will always be there for generations to come and see its magnificence.


Krishnamurthy is on a league of its own, and his intellectual, spritual, and scientific mind always leaves us yearning for further truths about life.

To me, another sets of interesting thoughts are poured by VivekanandaJi. In India, January 12th--his birthday-- has been celebrated as a youth day. It was thought that , the way it influenced the thought process in Indian youths ciria 1950s, and enriched and refreshed their spirits then, this phenomenon would be applicable for generations of youth to come, thereafter. Nehru had used a similar praise for Vivekananda's work, for having added the quintessential element of fire in the spirit of his geneartion, and may the future generations read [Vivekananda's] work to realize the potential that we've ( to bring the best out in us), to appreciate life and its offerings.
protean Posted on 06-Nov-02 04:01 PM

Oops missed my train of thought here...

Meant to say:
Are we too occupied that life slips by without ever giving time and space to
enjoy these glories offered in life?

INSTEAD OF

As far your statements about pleasures of life is concerned, isn't that the ultimate pleasure one soughts for? Are we too occupied that life slips by wiht
protean Posted on 06-Nov-02 04:29 PM

Another Deusire mood typo * uncalled for*...

Should have been:

Nehru had used a similar praise for Vivekananda's work, for having added the quintessential element of fire in the spirit of his geneartion, and in the hope that the future generations would read [Vivekananda's] the work to realize the potential that we've ( to bring the best out in us), to appreciate life and its infinite possibilities.

Aba deusi khelne hoki halla garna jane ho ,bichar ma...
Junkie Posted on 06-Nov-02 10:54 PM

Lekhna Nepali ma sajilo ...... tara padhna Angrajee
Nepali bhujnah sajilo ......... tara Angrajee garho

Hey Bhagwaan, laga malai yo sansar batah ...... good bye confusin worl
SITARA Posted on 07-Nov-02 06:33 AM

Protean ji

I have read Vivek Ananda. "The Warrior Saint" is one of the best books I have read yet. And going back to Krishnamurty.... His incredible insight and methods of questioning the social, cultural, religious.... institutional "norms", leave the reader with a profound sense of "restlessness" (for lack of better words). Unfortunately, applying such methods of questioning to break institutional taboos is another matter entirely. The open mindedness required to nurture such "radical" thoughts emerge only from a mind that has transcended much in life, through experiences.

Thanks for your comments! Always a pleasure to discuss with you, hajur!
AT Posted on 07-Nov-02 08:14 AM

How about Osho Rajneesh? Has anyone read his books?
SITARA Posted on 07-Nov-02 11:57 AM

AT ji

But ofcourse, OSHO too. Very interesting line of thinking; some may consider it ultra radical and immoral.....
SimpleGal Posted on 13-Nov-02 04:42 PM

Slipknot,
You gave me, in our conversation, the most wonderfully beautiful words I have ever heard. And I am taking this time to bring to everyone's attention that yours were the words that inspired this thread on "small things." I meant to disclose this earlier, and I offer no defense for not doing so. I'll merely say that I'm saying it now!

In peace.
Poonte Posted on 13-Nov-02 05:19 PM

Ahem!

Ke ho yesto??? Poonte damai ta aba baja bajauna tayaar hai! Feereeee ma! Sanai fukne mouka paiyela jasto chha ni?

Cha na kuti cha na kuti...jhyain garne baja...

Mero sab toli lai bolaam?

Haina, birani bhaye maaf paam hai, feri maile matra anartha lai rako ho ki?
slipknot Posted on 13-Nov-02 08:25 PM

SimpleGal:

I had merely bounced off an idea, without giving it a proper context other than mine, but you had the ability to place it in a broader frame, without diluting its meaning. As the idea transpired here in your flawless writing, in a manner anyone can easily grasp its gravity, when you shift the focus away, I am left speechless; all I can say, in the spirit of Doc Holiday in Tombstone, is: "Your humility knows no bounds!"

My oh my, how can you?
In such a petite and slender self,
Hide a world of knowledge that
Shines in the halo of your modesty,
A profound wisdom, at ease
With your multiple faculties?
And how do the words, so simple
Paint the sky blue, and the grass green
As they leap ever so easily
From your thoughts into your writing?
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Your writing has been an inspiration, hope to see more of it coming!

Peace! :)
slipknot Posted on 13-Nov-02 09:33 PM

Kyaaaaaaa Poonte damai dai ho ki bhai: SimpleGal ta mero baini jasto ho, dhyat mora tyasto soncha paap lagdaina? Aile tyahi sanahi le tyo gaine ko chaak ma dam basne gari dinu paryo kyaho? :)

I appreciate her writing, anartha nasonchideu na sathi bhai ho!

Om Shanti!
Poonte Posted on 13-Nov-02 10:22 PM

(Ankha pil pil, pil pil gardai)...

Maile aghinai bhaneko hoina, birani bhaye maaf paun bhanera? Tettikai arkako naaaaaram chaak ma daam basaidinchha bhanya...aba kati din samma basna pani namilne ho... :( suk suk... tyo mero jiju baa ko pala dekhi ko sanahi pani bhanchiyeko bhaye?
SimpleGal Posted on 14-Nov-02 03:53 PM

Slipknot,
Uta "Illustrators" thread ma ta mailey anartha gerechhu ni, "my poet" bhanera timilai!! eta ta you have made me your sister already! LOL....as William Congrieve would've said such are the "Ways of the World."

Harey Shiva Shiva! Ganga gaera nuhaunu parla aba!! :)

In peace.
slipknot Posted on 14-Nov-02 06:53 PM

Hey SimpleGal, poet ta ma latar patar matrai...but you do have a way with it that is rare in many people.

Ani, timi jasto bhadra bhaladmi lai bahini nabhanera k tyo Niharika lai baini bhannu ta? Feri usle, "Dai, how do I look in my thong," bhandyo bhane? Sunne lai pani laaz... ram ram harey harey!

So, when are you gonna present your next dazzling piece of poetry?

Om Shanti!
SimpleGal Posted on 14-Nov-02 07:02 PM

Slipknot dai :),

You are too kind to this little sister of yours! I shall try to make you :) with yet another poem soon. At the moment, am BZ with what else ??? but academia.

In peace.
SimpleGal Posted on 15-Nov-02 06:36 PM

My simple thing of the day:

I was talking to a friend last night amidst the piles of papers and books that litter my room these days. I used to be painfully meticulous about keeping my room tidy, arranging and rearranging things if the balance was even slightly disturbed. Now the reality of grad life has closed in on me. I feel like one of the sloppy professors whose clumsy offices used to make me shake my head in disbelief. "I certainly will never end up like one of them," I used to say to myself, my "ego," not to be too psychoanalytical, inflating to preposterous proportions. But ah, the irony of life!

"I am so happy today," said my friend.
"Really, what happened?" I asked, poring over the latest assignments that needed grading.
"I just realized that I am pregnant," she said. It was 3 am in the morning.
My red and menacing pen stopped midway through grading.
"Oh my god!" I screamed, and muffled my voice lest I awake my housemates. "That's great news, dear! How many months has it been?"
"2 months," she replied. "I wanted you to be the first one to know."
"Oh sweetie, that's so nice of you!" I was becoming teary. "I'm so honored, really!"
"I'm sorry I awoke you in the middle of the night just for this," she said, apologetically.
"Are you kidding me? Sleep kun chara ko naam ho pani birsi sakein mailey. Bholi diunso sutnu parla."
"But still, this is not a proper hour to call anyone."
"Trust me, there ain't any proper hour to call me," I said, feeling rejuvenated just to think and know that a new life was growing inside her that very moment.
"I'll let you go. Katti kaam hola jagaram nai chhau bhane," she yawned into the phone.
"Well, honey. You go to sleep. Rest is best at these times, hoina ta? Congratulations to you and Dheeraj."

We bid farewell. I got up to make some tea for myself. That very afternoon, I had spoken to my mother in Europe. She had told me, affectionately teasing, that my father, who has been the usual over-protective kind about me, picked up a little infant's clothing the other day--stared long and with a reflective smile on his face that my mother perceptively deciphered.
"She is still studying. We have to wait for some more years," is what she told him.
He snapped out of his stupor, and quickly put the clothing back. He's always been skillfull at concealing his feelings. But aren't all men? I feel sad for them--they cannot vent their feelings as easily as women seem to do. And that misplaced emotion displays itself in violent acts, sometimes putting them behind bars. And labeled as prisoners. And prisoners they are--robbed of freedom to express. I do not mean to condone inhumane acts, but am only seeking to understand why we do what we do and why the divide whatever it may be exists where it does.....

But yes, the bundle of joy that is now on its way has already permeated the lives of those who shared that one moment over the telephone. The seemingly insurmountable queries of life stand still in moments like those, just as the ungodliness of the hour stood transformed.

In peace.
baadal Posted on 18-Nov-02 01:40 PM

small things that bring joy to me -- the way the light hits the leaves during fall, making "snow-angels" during winter, the first leaf and daffodils of the spring, and the crackling sound as water hits ice during the summer....