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   Friends, This is Krishna's tribute to th 12-Nov-02 krishna
     Thank you, Krishna-ji, for your kind wor 12-Nov-02 ashu
       I can just see this thread becoming anot 12-Nov-02 paramendra
         Krishna-ji, How kind of you to create t 12-Nov-02 SimpleGal
           Corretion: do=to 12-Nov-02 SimpleGal
             Krishna, Keep up this good work. Yes, 12-Nov-02 protean
               Correction: Few that might have been 12-Nov-02 protean
                 Krishna ji Thank you hajur....! You, 12-Nov-02 SITARA
                   Philosophy of this message board : scrat 12-Nov-02 bhedo
                     genuinel=genuine 12-Nov-02 Dilasha
                       Krishna ji, i don't think i deserve such 12-Nov-02 Dilasha
                         Vame yasyasthita RADHE, SARADA yasi vakc 12-Nov-02 DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS)
                           bhedo.......bhedo ko buddhi ni kaile naa 12-Nov-02 oys_chill
                             ashu, paramendra, no problem...what i sa 13-Nov-02 krishna
                               Krishna, thanks for your kind words. Pol 13-Nov-02 Paschim
                                 Krishna-jee...ke bhanam khai...bharkhara 13-Nov-02 Poonte
                                   Krishna Jyu, U da man!! hehe 13-Nov-02 KaLaNkIsThAn
                                     Krishna: Those kind words are too tem 13-Nov-02 SMR
                                       Jumbo cabinet nai bhaye pani "board" maa 13-Nov-02 M.P.
M.P. Katabata Yesto Kura Aune Ho! Gaja 13-Nov-02 Logical Sense
   Krishna, Appreciate your spriting giv 13-Nov-02 protean
     Spriting =spirit of 13-Nov-02 protean
       Krishna ji good job. M.P. kasto idea 13-Nov-02 lonely
         balla po dekhey mailay ta yo. Mehmood na 13-Nov-02 jira
           Jira nahunda ni sajha ta sunya lagcha.. 13-Nov-02 DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS)
             Paschimjyu kaha birshinu hoo!! birshe bh 13-Nov-02 krishna
               Krishna, Came to the thread really la 13-Nov-02 NK
                 Very nice point NK. I donot disagree wit 13-Nov-02 krishna
                   KrishnaKanhiya..... Very creative thr 14-Nov-02 Trikal
                     Krishna jyu: You captured the essence 14-Nov-02 Junkie
                       Oys Chill I support you. We need some n 14-Nov-02 Rusty
                         Krishna ji!!!!! Positive is as Positi 14-Nov-02 SITARA
                           Trikaljyu!! pranam gurudev!! Gurudev k 14-Nov-02 krishna
                             Krishna, No, I do not feel "it was a mis 14-Nov-02 NK
                               Nk: Good points. But it is not as bl 14-Nov-02 wy
                                 Krishna, Giving sincere/insincere/ano 14-Nov-02 ashu
                                   That was a heck of a lecture ashu, I rea 14-Nov-02 DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS)
                                     Ashu, There is no doubt that you have 14-Nov-02 krishna
                                       Krishna and illterate ? Thats a contradi 14-Nov-02 czar
"We Nepalis dislike conflicts (that crit 15-Nov-02 wy
   Well for" from the gut" discussions sake 15-Nov-02 protean
     Krishna-ji, I was just thinking out l 15-Nov-02 ashu
       Protean! As always very diversified and 15-Nov-02 krishna
         Thanks Ashu for bringing out this intell 15-Nov-02 protean
           Protean, I understand that...Thanks for 15-Nov-02 krishna
             Krishna, ali dhilai gari yo thread padhi 18-Nov-02 chipledhunga


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krishna Posted on 12-Nov-02 06:08 PM

Friends, This is Krishna's tribute to the beautiful minds of sajha:

There are many of the sajhaites I admire and lots of others to be admired by not only me but lots of our friends.

san: sanjyu, nothing will be accomplished before I praise you for your hard work and dedication in making this place a warm and beautiful community. Thank you hajur.

deep: deepjyu tapain ko katha ko ta jawaab chaina. Its been a nasha. I have read your stories and they are vivid, descriptive, and to the point with a touch of nepali and english, a combination of relevant substance. I hope I will be reading those anecdote in the future to come.

sitara: "akash ko tara, aakha tari marla", thaha cha malai hajur. I would be blessed to have you. Mero bhagya kaha ra tetro. Anyways, I have settled down with a beautiful love of my own, tara intercaste hajur. Darr cha alikati.

ashu: Your presence on sajha is astonishingly welcome and your views and ideas are blossoming others. I have learned a lot of things from you and hope you keep on educating me and others through your mind blowing views.

paschim: I have read your postings in numbers and I have to say that your creations are a knowledge to me. Its absolutely astonishing. I admire your gist and you have educated a lot of illeterate me's.

paramendra: Though I have countered on many of your arguments, I have always been thrilled to read your postings. The defence by ashu on you justifies your potential and the genius inside you. Keep going brother.

Protean: I have read with excitement many of your arguments. Your matured and well grounded thoughts are respected well by me and lots of others in sajha.

dhumbasse: "re kya ajha last ma" mero ta mukh ma adkisakyo. Ahile ta yaha sathi harulai pani re kya ajha last ma bhanera hairan garchu ma ta. I wonder how you get those thet nepal sabda for a igonorant me to look up into brihad nepali sabdakosh.

jame bonds: I get often amazed about how to the point your arguments are. Your postings are allure and full of absolute cinception.

poonte: There is always a time of romance, love, humour and seriousness when required. I can see it right there in your creativeness.

Jira: Sentiments, arguments, sensitiveness, sweetness, emotions, nothing is genuine without a touch of humour in it. You have been blessed with that and your presence in sajha has always smiled many sajhabasis.

Hahooguru: A pertinent information and a logic behind it, you have explained it all. You were missed in sajha, but you showed up and pleased many hearts. Now its your turn to bless me and others with your hahoo ideas ((hey gurujyu, not that hahoo ok)).

Kalankisthan: Kalanki ma jatti keti ghumayepani sajha ma notions and opinions fanfani ghumaune tapain nai ho hajur, sarai ramro cha la.

Simplegal: Your name answers it all. I have read with interests your simple and solid poems and lots of your other postings and I say with true heart that is magnificent.

czar: You have one of those beautiful minds and a profound writings that can comprehend and grasp subjects matters with ease and at the same time impress many with your amazing vocabulary. Thank you for coming to sajha czar.

Dilasha: Your arguments are thought provoking, germane and not to mention detailed and specific. Good job hajur.

NK: You trying to bless others with how to go about being together, being one and always a true hearted nepali, is well intentioned and successful. Thank you NK.

smr: You are a talented and adequately versed in subject matters. I admire your writings. They have a sound basis and I have to say its very well-founded.

M.P.: You came to sajha with a bang and have already won the heart of many with your humourous yet so natural and talented journalism sire. I wonder if you were actually a journalist in some nepali patrikas, we could have had reliable and relevant informations.

Chipledhunga: chiplinu ta chiplinu bho chiplejyu, tara sajha ma chipleko ma dhanyabad. Your slip in sajha has blessed many with some beatiful creations from your mind, not to mention they are genuine and worthy or no matter how much sajhaites praise, not enough.

These are some of the sajhaites from the top of my head. There are many many more. Talents should always be admired. So here I was admiring some.

Best wishes to all,
Krishna....
ashu Posted on 12-Nov-02 06:52 PM

Thank you, Krishna-ji, for your kind words.
I appreciate them.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
paramendra Posted on 12-Nov-02 07:01 PM

I can just see this thread becoming another "bestseller!" Brother!
SimpleGal Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:13 PM

Krishna-ji,
How kind of you to create this thread! Truly, you speak my heart in your remarks about what sajha has come to mean in all our lives.

Here's something from me to you:

Krishna--Your comments have been genuine, thoughtful, and sprinkled with a generous dose of humor that seeks and serves to warm in turn your feedback. And above all, your forthcoming words reveal your authentic personality. You write unabashedly, candidly, with an aura of goodness all your own. The charisma of Krishna, at once innocent and gently flirtatious, you exude in your writing! I am glad to hear that you have found your Radhika :) and wish you luck! Fear not the intercaste situation, dear sir! Pyar kiya do darna kya? Parda nahin jab koi khuda se / Bandon se parda karna kya? Jab pyar kiya do darna kya?

In peace.
SimpleGal Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:17 PM

Corretion: do=to
protean Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:25 PM

Krishna,

Keep up this good work. Yes, each of these and several others deserve this appreciation

Thanks for putting in the nice words for me. I for one ,always thought that I thrived on childlike displays and mannerisms :-)

Actually, you are one of the beautiful minds that I've seen after my arrival at Sajha.

The initiator of humor, positive feelings, community sense, bright and creative expressions. I and others have enjoyed your witty presence in Sajha. :-)

Few that you might have been missed are Ruck,Arnico, Logical Sense,Siwalik,Nepe,Slipknot, Orion, amongst others.

Keep it rolling.
protean Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:33 PM

Correction:

Few that might have been
SITARA Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:39 PM

Krishna ji

Thank you hajur....! You, yourself are genteel, kind and posses a sophisticated humor beyond "barnan". I have been reading with absolute glee your impromptu poems and songs that have rocked the threads of Sajha with abundant mirth!

hoina ni! :(

It was all in jest about "Aakash ko phal aankha tari mar"! Really...please don't bring it out of context! :(
If you read my opinions in Krishnamurty thread, you might understand me as more of a "radica l" thinker and therefore come across as a sceptic!...even in jest!

As for having a love out of caste.... I wish you both all the best!

"You have nothing to fear but Fear itself!" And, if you both have made a commitment to see your relationship through...well, it will surely come to fruition! :)
bhedo Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:42 PM

Philosophy of this message board : scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours, or quid pro quo, if you prefer.
Dilasha Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:57 PM

genuinel=genuine
Dilasha Posted on 12-Nov-02 08:57 PM

Krishna ji, i don't think i deserve such a genuinel compliment but thank you anyway, that was sweet of you. I want to add you in this category for you do have a beautiful mind. for someone who can come up with such creative spontaneous tukkas in that "bhaili" thread, it's an incredible talent that you possess. I am going to organize a Sajha Dabali sometime next year and that is if only YOU promise tol participate in the Dohori geet. and all of us can cheer ya! Seriously! huncha?
DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) Posted on 12-Nov-02 09:11 PM

Vame yasyasthita RADHE, SARADA yasi vakchyaasi
Sajhapura viharam tam, Srikrisnaya namo nama:||


arthat jaska baya patti radhika(9 kaliyug ki), ra Saraswati ( sacchikai) chatima bass garchin, sajhapurma ghumna man paraune tyesta Krishnaji lai mero namskar cha bhanna khojeko ho...

Aba duiti budhi bhidai dya pani hoina ni pheri..danga naparnus ni..langauti duitira tanatan bhye pachi thaha huncha .. re kya ajha lastma :)

Excellent work. I have noted many who come here in Sajha and quickly make an impression on everyone's mind, like a foot print on the sand..you are one of them...:) Beach ma Taruni check garadai hindya jasto chap bhanya kya ...hehe

remember!! intercaste , interrace biha bata janimiyeka bachaaharu ghadi ko sui bhanda chalakh hunchan re. Kinabhane, there is always too much love involved. Mardako chora le matrai tyesto garna sakcha..Ani mero bhanda pani Simplegal, Sitara, ani aruharuko kura badhi sunnush..tapailai sab thik huncha.
Hats off to ya fella!!


I hope this makes you feel better re kya ajha lastma...hehe :)
oys_chill Posted on 12-Nov-02 09:12 PM

bhedo.......bhedo ko buddhi ni kaile naaune bhayo.......arko paali dasai ma bali ko boko bannu parla!!

lau lau krishna ji, maile ta harip mind garde hai ;) ....kyarnu....lau beautiful mind nabhaye ni..negative creep matrai bhanera rakhdya bhaye ni hunthyo ;)

lau krishna ji le radha haroo tannai paunu hunu bhayo :).....well the bottomline: these personas indeed deserve this tribute :) .......its so interesting to see so many people with so many varied interests, beliefs, and priorities :) ...and seriously, its not fun at all if u agree with everyone ki kaso? ;)l

lau krishna ji, ma ni bhandim hai? yesto tribute garne beautiful mind john nash chai hajur nai hai ta..........lau like someone else mentioned..i am up for dohori geet, dui deen basera dantya katha padya maile :)

my personal tribute to all these amazing entities as well as well: some for inspiring, some for consuming, some for abusing, some for hasaing, some for lobyaing, some for nachaing..........wowow my only complain: 7th sense pani badaunu paryo sathi haroo..rib tickle afai lai garera suru gare ni huncha (meant for some grave ppl)
thanx
oys
krishna Posted on 13-Nov-02 04:55 AM

ashu, paramendra, no problem...what i said is what you deserve..nothing more nothing less...

Simplegal, thanks for your warm comments, though I dont deserve them...

Protean, I know I have missed many talented sajhaites..they just came from the top of my head so I just wrote down my tributes..The names you mentioned are respected sajhaites and hope I could read lots of articles from them in the coming future like I always do....

Sitara, how nice of you to drop kind words for this nathe hajur.. thanks for wishing me luck on my love...

dilasha, dohori organize nai garnu hunchha bhane ta ma pani kassinchu hajur...khelaula milera madal bajaudai dohori....k cha ra...

bhedo, I don't think you got my point..that was not my intention to get good feedbacks..infact if I didn't get any, I wouldn't be disappointed...Coz I didn't wrote this for a tit for tat thing....Don't you really think that the people I tributed above deserve such appreciations????? Well you might not feel that, but I certainly do thats why I wrote that....Infact what I have said is less and my words aren't enough to describe what they are made of....tapain testai sochnu huncha bhane, I dont have anything to say...but please I request you to appreciate the beautiful minds of sajha, and anyatha nasochnu hola...........

dhumbasse, k bhanam, ek choti feri brihad sabdakosh paltaunu paryo...tapain ko sudhha ra sushojit nepali ma teti mitho comments tyo pani you nathe krishna lai..it is your good will that you decided to drop few lines of good things..thank you so much....

oys_chill, you have the name on the top of my list hajur...your humourous, interesting and precise illustrations have blessed sajha...need i say anything more??? Laughter is the best medicine....thats totally you..and i can't help but to admire you from underneath of my heart....keep going sire!!!!!!
Paschim Posted on 13-Nov-02 06:23 AM

Krishna, thanks for your kind words. Politely halla garne ta ho, by product jati bonus! Hamra Village Voice ra Biswo -- long time Sajha residents lai pani nabirsam.
Poonte Posted on 13-Nov-02 06:44 AM

Krishna-jee...ke bhanam khai...bharkharai dulahi side le herna aayeko (over chya pan) dulaha jastai raato bhayera mero ta boli nai futena. Laaj lagnu ko pani euta sima hunchha ni :)

Thank you, anyway, for your kind words. However, I must admit that the addiction to Sajha is killing me!!! Looks like I may have to resort to a self-imposed exile from Sajha too--at least for a month--until the semester's over...re kya ajha laast ma! Sakae ta ho ni ;)
KaLaNkIsThAn Posted on 13-Nov-02 08:39 AM

Krishna Jyu,

U da man!! hehe
SMR Posted on 13-Nov-02 09:54 AM

Krishna:

Those kind words are too tempting to make me retire.
M.P. Posted on 13-Nov-02 10:32 AM

Jumbo cabinet nai bhaye pani "board" maa pare ko maa khusi laagyo :) . More because it all happened without any "sosh-fosh"!

"Daat-doctor" [HG], "dictionary-doctor" [Paschim], "distillery-doctor" [Dilasha], "damaai-doctor" [Poonte, i did not give him this title], "delivery-doctors" [Junkie and Najar], "Diarrhoea-doctor" [Niharika--see another thread], "Diary-doctors" [Oys, Deep et al],"Teraibasi-doctor" [Paramendra],"harvard-doctor" [Oohi Ashu], Poem doctors [SimpleGirl], "Piercing-Doctor" [Sitara], "political doctors" [SMR, Siwalik, Arniko, Logical Sense et al]....ani aru haru "Doctor" haru ko aghadi aafu bachchaa nai ho. Teti hudaa hudai pani list maa raakhera "lust" banaaidiyeko maa Krishna laai chhai "Dayaalu-Doctor" bhanna parlaa...:)
Logical Sense Posted on 13-Nov-02 01:05 PM

M.P. Katabata Yesto Kura Aune Ho! Gajabcha Ba!

Krishnaji very nice thread.

I think Famous Sajhaites need these 'VITAMINS' time to time to boost their morals and chug along with their thoughts and doing community service, otherwise 'WEAR and TEAR' with so much of political fights, racism and now diarrhoea takes the toll in their postings!

Good work should never stop!

- iti
protean Posted on 13-Nov-02 02:19 PM

Krishna,

Appreciate your spriting giving due credit. You do need to have a very open
mind and generous heart to do that. I'm impressed by your magnanimity, alcarity, and wit.
Ke ho KrihsnaJi nai ho ki kya ho yo Prithvima? :-)

Keep up with your ways at Sajha.

BTW, I was just mentioning some other people in Sajha and that's all.:-)
protean Posted on 13-Nov-02 02:21 PM

Spriting =spirit of
lonely Posted on 13-Nov-02 02:24 PM

Krishna ji good job.

M.P. kasto idea furchha ho hajur ko dimag ma..mane baba..

Keep posting aafu ta padhai dherai and lekhne kaam garchhu..sanai dekhi lageko bani....
jira Posted on 13-Nov-02 02:26 PM

balla po dekhey mailay ta yo. Mehmood nabhanya bhe huni.........:-)
DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) Posted on 13-Nov-02 02:31 PM

Jira nahunda ni sajha ta sunya lagcha..
krishna Posted on 13-Nov-02 03:17 PM

Paschimjyu kaha birshinu hoo!! birshe bhane ta yo krishna lai paap lagi halcha ni...thanks for your kind words...

poontejyu lajaunu ta nepali haru ko tradition ho..baru tapainlai chahi dulahi man paryo ki parena ni?????

kalanki, smr, I am always here to appreciate your genius works!!!!

M.P. tapainlai ta mannai parne ho baba...!!! yo krishna lai dayalu doctor banaidiyeko ma dhanyabad M.P. jyu....euta kura bhanau M.P. jyu....huna ta laaz mardo hola...tara tapainlai matra khusukka hai ta.....maile tyo tapainko paramendra appointed as interim pm bhanne thread cha ni, I think last night 12 choti hola....purai padheko.....

Thanks logical sensejyu, ma chadai chu ni appreciate garne sajha ka hasti harulai....i will be always there till time and space permits..

protean, i understand, thanks once again!

lonely ma pani testai ho!!....ali kahile kahi lekhna man lagcha..tehi bhayera yeso lekhinchha....btw I have read many of your interesting and thought-provoking lekhai...

dhumbasse, thik kura garyo....jira nahuda ta sunya nai lagchha..jirajyu kata ho??????
NK Posted on 13-Nov-02 08:13 PM

Krishna,
Came to the thread really late. I thank you. Please don't get me wrong but all these adulation makes me uneasy to say the least. I know we *are* appreciative of each other. But, there are hundreds of silent Sajha readers who don't post but are interested enough to come to this "chiya pasal." They might be aghast to see so many threads devoted to ourselves. I can almost see them red in their face and foaming... ok not foaming but stil red... What I am saying or requesting to the contributors of this board is to be mindful of those silent readers also. We might be seen as bunch of narcistic yakkers who have nothing better to do than shower each other with praise after praise... Maybe bhedo has a point, ok maybe not quite a point but 'puenktchen' (dimunitive of a point, just in case some of you are wondering).
krishna Posted on 13-Nov-02 10:35 PM

Very nice point NK. I donot disagree with you as I was one of the silent readers of this sajha bulletin myself. Believe it or not, I was actively involved in sajha more of a reader then a participant for about 4-5 months and then I started dropping few lines of my own on threads that interest me and have been actively involved since then. So you can say that I do understand the minds of silent readers of sajha.
To be honest with you, seeing all these talents flowing and reading those admirable and excellent lines by so many sajhaites, I didn't know what to write. I used to wonder, if I write something, and what if nobody likes it?? What if I get criticized for my postings?? But now I know that more you get involved the more you start to appreciate people about their thoughts, drop few good lines of your own and write less but write well. Now I am not of a kind who bandwagons excessive and often insincere compliments to people. I have disagreed lots of people and have admired many. There were few whom I did admire and that was totally my tribute.
If you still feel that it was a mistake then I sincerely and whole heartedly apologize to you and to all other silent readers of sajha.
Kind Regards,
Krishna!
Trikal Posted on 14-Nov-02 11:40 AM

KrishnaKanhiya.....

Very creative thread....as permendra said "bestseller"......I didn't realize until now!!!!

Oysbhai....

I like your comments too.....nice !!!
Junkie Posted on 14-Nov-02 11:50 AM

Krishna jyu:

You captured the essence of 'em all! Good Work ......

PS: Ani Gopini haru lai aaramai chha hola? key bhagin sabai ;)
Rusty Posted on 14-Nov-02 12:06 PM

Oys Chill
I support you. We need some negative creeps, ugly mind in sajha.
SITARA Posted on 14-Nov-02 12:52 PM

Krishna ji!!!!!

Positive is as Positive does,
Positive is as Positive sees
Positive is..................... A STATE OF MIND!!!!


Rusty, Oys, Bhedo....... Postive attracts Negative and vice versa!!!

Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! :P
krishna Posted on 14-Nov-02 02:19 PM

Trikaljyu!!
pranam gurudev!!
Gurudev ko yo thread ma paila paryo, ma ta dhanya bhaye hajur!!

Junkiejyu, Rustyjyu, Thank you very much!! Junkie..ahile Krishna lai khaderi lagi rachha..gopini haru sab gai charauna gachan k...

Sitarajyu, I have always considered you a positive sitara....somebody said in other thread you are a CONNECTOR...exactly correct hajur!!!!
NK Posted on 14-Nov-02 03:48 PM

Krishna, No, I do not feel "it was a mistake." Not at all. I was kind of thinking aloud. Thank you for listening and understanding what I was trying to say.
wy Posted on 14-Nov-02 06:28 PM

Nk:

Good points. But it is not as blatant as some of the other chest thumpings and self promoting links and threads.
ashu Posted on 14-Nov-02 07:40 PM

Krishna,

Giving sincere/insincere/anonymous/known compliments is always a SAFE option in a crowd like this than dishing out thought-out criticisms, no matter how hard you try to distinguish between criticisms of ideas and criticisms of personalities per se.

When criticized, we Nepalis, by and large, are very quick to take offence, become emotionally agitated, hold grudges for the longest time, and start bad-mouthing/ridiculing our critics.

I have seen this so many times -- here on sajha and in real life -- that, for my own 'research' these days I am actually now fascinated to find out who reacts in what manner to what kind of statements, and what that tells me about their state of emotional maturity. :-)

When working with others, I have also learnt to put my trust NOT in people's
intellectual maturity (which is over-rated!) but in their emotional maturity (which is under-rated).

Emotional maturity as in how they handle setbacks/failures/criticisms/obstacles is a better predictor of their eventual professional/personal success than their momentary charm-school elegance that can fizz out when the going gets tough and rough.

[This is one reason why I said I was wary of charismatic CEOs, in that thread sarted by SM Sainju.]

I think one reason we are so ready with praises is that for that is that in Nepal we have grown up or are surrounded by too much of these FALSE/EASY praises.

You write a book, even a lousy book, and everyone, without readng it, praises your efforts. You write an article or a kabita, and everyone praises it too, at least in front
of you.

There's really no honest-to-God sort of sincere criticsm that actully CARES about your work and offers you ideas as to how to do what you are doing better. Our artists resist peer criticisms; so do our scholars, so do our netas, so do our film-makers . . . and on and on.

In the absence of criticisms that cut through the bullshit and try to offer an uncomfortable or a different viewpoint, we end up with mediocrity in everything,
wowing only the converted.

Sometimes, I think that we Nepalis are so eager to live in some la-la land of peace and so desperate to "get-along" with one another in some sort of make-believe amityville that we praise one another -- at least in front of one another -- even for keeping our noses clean. You know what I mean.

On a larger note, what I find intellectually puzzling these days is this:

a) We Nepalis dislike conflicts (that criticisms, for one, can inevitably bring).
b) Yet our country is mired in conflicts after conflicts, wven though our netas buried their head in the sand for the longest time.

Is it time that we started LIKING conflicts enough so that we start to care about concretely looking for ways to diffuse these conflicts?

I sometimes feel that BECAUSE we do not much have experience in difussing conflicts (putting out emotional fires), we are stymied when we are confronted by real conflicts. And when that happns, we just don't know what to do, and we tend to drag our feet on and on.

Perhaps we should practice -- on an experimental basis -- how to start "mini-conflicts" here and there, and then activelly try to LEARN how to end them so that, over time,
our collective conflict-resolution skills get fortified all the more, and could be put use in
real world all the more.

Just a thought.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) Posted on 14-Nov-02 08:10 PM

That was a heck of a lecture ashu, I really like that. very much self- opinionated, practical yet cunning, and, above all, truely honest, nicely put .

Hey! the more i read your postings ,the more i am becoming your fan ( ? i don't know if that's the right word). In the begining I used to think " what the heck, i do not wanna read these lousy long lectures, somone's own feelings, his perception" . But these days I like to read them all, and it started mostly by those posting of yours and parmendra's.

No !! chakadi garya hoina ni pheri, being as sincere and honest as you are above!!

Keep the ball rolling, hats off to ya!! re kya ajha lastma :)
krishna Posted on 14-Nov-02 09:25 PM

Ashu,

There is no doubt that you have an absolutely amazing insights into seeing things with a different perspective. Today I also read you being frank, elaborate, sincere and striking the very point I had in my heart. Please donot consider this as flattering you, because it is not.

Forgive my ignorance, but I cannot figure out the purpose of why you wrote the above pointing out to me?? but I also assure you that I will definitely take this as you granting an illeterate Krishna a knowledgeable thoughts and I will always keep that in my heart with anything I write.

Isn't it a sad thing though?? I always wanted to go out full-fledged and basically write just about anything I had in my head provided they are stimulate and have enough evidence to justify that there was some sense on what I said not that I have to be ashamed and back up on things I said.

I didn't tribute you and the others because I wanted to get attention and praises. Like I said to NK, even if I didn't get any, I woudln't definitely be disappointed because I didn't wrote that to be archaic and get enough extol.

When I write something, I am going to defend that if I feel that is right. But if somebody explains to me with sound judgement and not based on specialized knowledge that I am actually wrong, I am going to accept that frankly and truthfully with no biased heart.

I think I have been in Sajha enough to know people better. I was actually a silent reader for 4-5 months like I said above to NK and I have read enough articles, maybe not quite enough with my mind to judge people, but definitely well enough, atleast that is what I feel. I donot beg to differ on myself, not having enough common sense to actually understand people's mind. I do understand that and maybe I accept that I have skipped through lots of long articles due to time and space but once I read articles, I donot leave it in the middle. Even if I do, I will come back and read them. Because I have always felt that once you start, you always gotta finish them. Skipping the whole article is I think the right thing to do than skipping article in the middle.

You have brought up a very good questions on the mentality of Nepalese people. That without reading enough, they are ready to praise. I totally agree with you on that, mind you I am not excluding myself from that class you explained. I am right there and thats why I said, your excellent analysis striked my heart.

Conflicts are bound to occur because not every people are with the same thoughts. They are different thats why they are there.

Like dhumbasse said, you speech was genuine, pure and adulterated.

To all, I urge to atleast respite for a moment and give thoughts to what Ashu wrote. For me its been a precise and honest lesson.

Thank you very much Ashu!

Krishna!
czar Posted on 14-Nov-02 10:14 PM

Krishna and illterate ? Thats a contradiction, to put it mildly ! Was it not he that fired off the Bhagwadgita, with no commercial breaks we are told on good authority, to convince Arjun to fill his cousin's behinds chock full of arrows on the hallowed ground of Kurushettra ?

Say, you aint him you claim ? For a namesake, you are doing a marvellous job as far as I can tell. Just my cents mind you, from me who is a no-account no-goodink who makes a living from avoiding hard work ! And shoots back rot gut time to time in the same disreputable joint that a certain water distribution agent frequents as he eyes the sauni ki chori.

If you insist, however, then I must give in to your arguments. Still, I dare say, even at the risk of being accused of being one of those people with zero conflict management skills, that you do make sense. Do I leave you with the feeling of being cross-eyed ? Me too !

Kaching !
wy Posted on 15-Nov-02 12:41 AM

"We Nepalis dislike conflicts (that criticisms, for one, can inevitably bring."

Not in politics given the experience of the last 12 years, and I am not talking about the Maoists insurgency. As for the common people? I call it ambivalence.
protean Posted on 15-Nov-02 02:14 AM

Well for" from the gut" discussions sake.

What Krishna brought out appears to be his genuine interpretation of what he observed after perusing and ruminating through some of the postings. If he admired some of the writers, then that is for him and him alone.
I don't think there was any tangible gain sought by clearly spelliing out what the heart felt and what the mind was impressed by. To me, that is also an attribute of an emotionally intelligent human being.

I think to provide positive inputs is better than being jealous and exhibiting the Khutta Tanne Mentality. But, mind you, apprecation has to be heartfelt, and shouldn't be just a means to display sentiments that are not valid.


Ashu, very relevant matter you brought up.

As far as the degree of critical thinking is concerend, Nepalis society is greatly lacking. in this arena. Notwithstanding is the lack of inspiration and constructive criticism in Nepali society.

Ok, why did it happen in the first place? Culture, or lack of leadership? I would think both.

Given the dearth of opportunites in Nepal especially during the Rana regime, and the Pre 1990 era, the servile and subservient behavior that had to be developed by most, in order to survive, go more pronounced over the years, and might have got embedded in the minds of Nepalis .


To challenge the status quo or authority was not popular, and it was only recently, that there has been soem instances where authority ahs been challenged or criticized.

Our leadership in various fields has also not really led us to beleive that challenging, and going against norms is healthy.

This could be a reason why a significant portion of the population don't feel they want to be singled out and be disassociated from the crowd.

So, what if this was found to be healthy and not so unpopular? I think more people would practice it.


As far the leaders are concerend, I think their dismal performance is both due to their
lack of emotional and rational intelligence.

An emotionally intelligent person might as well be a rational person. For example, all this while, the actions of Deoba, Girija proved that they are not rational either. Otherwise , why would they split, dissolve the parliament, and get the country in this imbroglio? They were both irrational and significantly lacked emotion management skills to the point that this ended uo hurting the country.

What about being positive and working as a team? No chance. With Makune and lot, it
was a same thing. They had to impede any progressive moves the Congress might have wanted to initiate.

Where is the true inspirational leadership quality? Why couldn't they work as a team?
Emotionally and Inellectually incapable? Or intoxicated by their own egos.

So, emotional managment coupled with rational thoughts is needed. What provides it?
More of such platforms.

What can sustain it?
Being able to take it without offence and learn from it.
ashu Posted on 15-Nov-02 05:30 AM

Krishna-ji,

I was just thinking out loud -- sharing thoughts with you and others in this PUBLIC forum.
Tetti ho.

My comments were general enough to provide some food for thought.
Tetti nai ho.

That said, I do remain appreciative of your kind words earlier.

More later; gotta go now.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
krishna Posted on 15-Nov-02 01:40 PM

Protean! As always very diversified and thorough explanation of the emotional as well as sensitive mentality of Nepalese people. I guess you explained it all. Thanks bro! Keep going....

Czar!,"White Tsar" O! Monsier, thanks for your warm and gentle comments sire. How about Knighting you???? Sir Czar!

Ashu! I understand that and you shared it very nicely...Thanks once again!!
protean Posted on 15-Nov-02 02:17 PM

Thanks Ashu for bringing out this intellectual inquiry into our behavior patterns. Being self ciritical and reflective always is a more progressive approach.

That said, I am happy that I get to share my point of view at Sajha, and get to learn from those of others.

Yesto (social networking) Platform ko Lagi chahi San lai dhanyabaad.

Krishna,
I was just presenting my view points, and that's all.

Keep up with your positive attitude!
krishna Posted on 15-Nov-02 09:24 PM

Protean, I understand that...Thanks for your thoughts...

Regards,
Krishna
chipledhunga Posted on 18-Nov-02 12:12 AM

Krishna, ali dhilai gari yo thread padhiyo. Thank you very much for kindly including me on your list. Just wanted to let you know that I have also been enjoying reading your postings.