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   Most of us are familiar about poverty an 14-Nov-02 gbncorg
     Okay, this is my take on it. For social 14-Nov-02 SIWALIK
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gbncorg Posted on 14-Nov-02 10:19 AM

Most of us are familiar about poverty and its consequence since we (not all, but higher percentage of youths) have gone thorough. Needless to say that Maoist have taken advantage of mass poverty in our country and at the same time, none of regime have ever taken care of poor. The result of ignorance of poverty brings up Class Struggle, which is another worsening scenario in most of society where economic disparity is unexpectedly wider, like in Nepal.

Don’t you think that we need a revolution in Nepal in every fields, such as Educational, Social, Political, Economical and Industrial? How can we achieve a revolution in Nepal?
SIWALIK Posted on 14-Nov-02 11:59 AM

Okay, this is my take on it. For social justice, we need social revolution. That is the only way to sweep away past malpractices and social injustice. But can the spirit of that revolution be sustained? That is hard to do, but still such a change will rid many inequalities.

You hint at class based revolution. What are the likelihood that such a revoltion can succeed? Here is an insight from some research. Class based revolution are influenced by the scarcity and the fight for resources. Scarcity can be acute or moderate. But that alone will not give us the outcome. What we need to take into account is the nature of the state or the regime, which can be instrumental, autonomous institutional or autonomous sultanistic. For a revolution to SUCCEED, these are the conditions:

So if classes = lower, middle and upper; and
state = instrumentalist, institutionalist, and personalist (sultanist)

Moderate scarcity + sultanistic regime = broad-based revolution (successful)
Moderate scarcity + instrumentalist state = lower + middle (possibly successful political)
High scarcity + instrumentalist state = class based (not likely to be successful)

Overall, if the state domination is based on class and clique, revolution can be successful (social) when there is a broad-based alliance, otherwise, there is a moderate chance of success. But under high inequality, middle class is less likely to join the lower class so there is less chance of any change. So it seems the middle class holds the key to the success of class-based revolution.

In Nepal's context, there is high inequality, but the regime is sultanistic at the moment, so the chances are even, I would say. Political revolution is likely, social revolution is unlikely.
oys_chill Posted on 14-Nov-02 12:46 PM

"Maoist have taken advantage of mass poverty in our country and at the same time, none of regime have ever taken care of poor. "

mmm......i wouldn't really agree on maoists taking advantage of mass poverty but poverty has forced maoists to sprout up.......maybe you should do more research and watch more documentaries on this one!

and yah..we are all trying to take care of the poor aren't we? how? sending money from here? haha....

now what kinda revolution we need? like gaun farka karyakram, i think we need nepal farka karyakram.......then only we can think of doing some revolution on first hand basis....
jus my negative thoughts prolonging! eheh all in good faith!
oys