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| ruck |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 02:54 PM
Hi friends,
Today I feel like sharing this very beautiful poem by Louis C. Shimon. I personally love to recite this everyday.
Portean did you see this somewhere, remember????
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Wouldn't this old world be better
if the folks we meet would say
"I know something good about you"
and treat us just that way?
Wouldn't it be fine and dandy
if each handclasp, fond and true
carried with it this assurance;
"I know something good about you"
Wouldn't life be much more happy
if the good that's in us all
were the only thing about us
that folks bothered to recall?
Wouldn't life be lots more happy
if we praised the good we see?
For there's such a lot of goodness
in the worst of you and me.
Wouldn't it be nice to practice
that fine way of thinking, too?
You know something good about me,
I know something good about you.
God Bless Us All!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 02:56 PM
Ruck
Absolutely beautiful ni...!!!!!!!
And I know something good about you, too! :)
Ani how are "stuff" going on ?
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| ruck |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 02:59 PM
Zentara, "stuff" ???
Chaotic...
:-((
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| protean |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 03:03 PM
Ruck,
Nice going bahini! Great--the fountain of warmth, and creativity is back in action.
Well, I think I recall this poem :-)
[Coincidentally, this has some corelation with Krishna's posting on Beatuiful mind & the ensuing discussions in it.]
Yes, life would be good if we did strove for the positive!
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 03:11 PM
Need I add more? I'd rather say I ONLY know good things about you :)
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 03:33 PM
I know something good about me and poonte dai has something good for me ;) rest i am not sure bout ;)
eheh..
ruck didi/bahini.......very good indeed! i like reciting: solitary reaper though, don't know why!!
oys
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 15-Nov-02 03:41 PM
RUck
Very very very nice poem.
Sitara,
Hi and
Goodbye VA:)
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 09:55 AM
Ruck, nice indeed. Here's something that you dont' know about me:) Hope you would like it.
the selfish, they're all standing in line
faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
me, I figure, as each breath goes by
I only own my mind
the north is to south what the clock is to time
there's east and there's west and there's everywhere life
I know I was born and I know that I'll die
the in-between is mine
I am mine
Ruck, not my lines hai feri. I burrowed it:)
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:10 AM
Ruck jyu,
khatara khatara!! Ma ta "HIL" gaya!!
Do I know something good about you??? ;)
Would it be more than enough for you
if I say I just wanna be happy and free
Would it be too much to ask you
if you know something good about me
JPT # 512
"kyaa naam chaine distubb????"
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:21 AM
All this good will ! The "poem" is at best mediocre, otherwise simply camp,y if not vile. No offense to Ruck who posted it. The sentiment behind the poem is tolerable enough, but come on now... "beautiful" this "poem"? Kavita ko beijjat nagaridinus sathi haru...
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:32 AM
Shimon is a total tard. This utopia that stupid Shimon is delineating is just that, utopia. Goblins and trolls and orcs and elves are much more realistic than this good will bullshit. If this poem is beautiful, then so are Osama Bin Laden. Saddam Hussein and Richard Simmons.
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:36 AM
Ruckji,
The poem is indeed beautiful because the thoughts behind it are!
Anepalikt,
Poems are by nature beautiful. You just need the vision. But you are entitled to yours!
In peace.
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| ruck |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:41 AM
Yes, there is something good about each one of us....NepaliKT (do you disagree?)
God Bless!
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 12:10 PM
We have both good and bad within us. To be emotional is to be human. If we lose just one emotion --and for our purpose, let's say we don't get jealous -- we won't be complete anymore, for we have lost a valuable part of humanness that helps in molding our personality. If my girl is accosted by a stranger, and he starts flirting with her, then naturally I am going to get jealous, and due to me being a COMPLETE human, I naturally am going to whisk her away. Or am I supposed to say, "Oh, it's all for the good. They'll just have sex in the end"? Man, that reminds me of a book I read in high school: Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Come to think of it, the world that only has happy faces would be a dystopia, not utopia. Goes to show that altruism has its limits. Or are you thinking of one of those tribes in Africa (the name of the tribe escapes me for the moment) who corporate breeding? Also, without negative emotions, we can't have free will because -- and keep in mind the power I currently have to whisk away my girlfriend-- my brain will ONLY be registering positive feelings.
So, would the world really be better if all the negative aspects were thrown out the window? Naw, I don't think so. A feel-good poem, true, but it ain't no masterpiece.
And I'm not going to jump onto the band wagon and praise the poem without thinking of the ramifications. So there!
Ciao for now. Got to watch Casablanca.
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| dirk |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 06:23 PM
Bhedo say hi to Bogie and Bacall at Rick's Cafe for me. ;) It's been a while. Raymond Chandler's Sam Spade is quite a character...fast talking, cigarette smoking, womanizing gumshoe!!!
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 06:56 PM
Bhedo bhai,
You are making a simple thing--that we all have something good about us--into a complexity beyond comprehension. And rather than being frustrated, I find myself :)ing! Good points you bring up. Certainly, the world is not a utopia for the very reason that polarities are not only necessary but indespensable for the continuation and longevity of anything. In trying to convince with your wonderful articulation, however, that various emotions are the premise of human existence, you deny the very emotions their *existence*!! :) In your example, you say that you would be jealous, naturally, if a guy flirted with your girl. Your feelings are valid in this regard. BUT you go on to suspect that, to use your own words, "Oh, it's all for the good. They'll just have sex in the end"? which only reveals how little you *trust* your girlfriend in the first place. Yes, you do not know the guy's motives and in jealousy, you may deprive him of the benefit of the doubt. However, you judge your girlfriend, whom I assume you love and hence are jealous, through the same lense as you do the stranger. I see some dissonance there! You illustrate the dytopia well. Just a point for your ponderance! :) The good vs. bad is at your discretion!
In peace.
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| slipknot |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 08:52 PM
Ruck:
Vey nice poem. You have brought into limelight the very essence of human being that we adore appreciation, whether we admit it or not. No matter how we have evolved in life, we soften into a smile when someone strokes our ego beyond ecstacy. And, it is not necessairy a bad thing, it is human.
Bhedo, SimpleGal:
Seeing beauty in the poem you present is, however, an altogether different thing. Those who see its depth are the ones who have evolved similarly with us in life. Some just disagree to differ, but for those who genuinely find no meaning in the poem, it's just a manifestation of the fact that we all are different, some more different than others. To a bleating sheep, the vast strech of pasture has more meaning than anything else; to a jingoist, nationalism has more meaning than anything else. Can you really blame them for thinking along those lines? No. We have the right to be stupid. We have the right to be wise. So long as our actions do not molest others, we have the right to be what we are. Then again, if a sheep doesn't like green fodders, it doesn't make it any less of a sheep. If a person doesn't like appreciation it doesn't make him/her any less of a human. Talking about being a complete human, does it make us any less human if we are missing an arm? or a vice? or an esteemed quality? The fact that we were born from a human mother's womb makes us human. Good or bad, that we make of ourselves. SimpleGal, you argument, as always, is strong! :)
Peace!
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| slipknot |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 08:55 PM
I hope my ram-bling above makes some sense to at least some... :)
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 10:09 PM
One of my sentences got a bit jumbled up, but it was totally unnecessary anyways.
Missing an arm will still make you human. It's something physical. But you're only a vegetable if you got no emotions. Everybody has something good in him, yes, but everybody also has something bad within him. And without the bad, we don't have free will anymore. God has endowed us with the ability to choose.
And I probably would be letting the man flirt with my girl, if I focused only on the good. I probably wouldn't even mind her having sex with that man, since I'll be focusing only on the good. I might even PRAISE him because of the BIG thing that I SEE hanging between his legs :) [that was in reference to "Wouldn't life be lots more happy
if we praised the good we see" ]. But since I have free will, I can choose either. Hope you got my point now. Ahhh, utopia.
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 16-Nov-02 11:10 PM
SimpleGal,
"Poems are by nature beautiful." I guess, I disagree when the “poems” in question is written by Shimon ( I have to admit here I have never heard of this guy before, hai pheri. Just going by the poem quoted here). And that must now mean that I simply don’t have the vision. Well, I say, if having such a “vision” were to make me think “poems” of this caliber “beautiful,” thank GOD that I DON’T have the “vision.”
Some of the most powerful poetry I have read could never be called "beautiful." At least not this vision of beauty... which seems to be this easy campy, feel good crap ... hardly beyond a fifth grader’s response ... both in vision and execution. “Can't we just get along?!! Wouldn't it just be better?” And at anytime you can expect Mommy or Daddy to step in and say, "Of course darling. Of course. It’ll all go away. People are all good in the end… all the beheadings, all the blood, all the violence, they will all go away, if we just think good thoughts and send out good vibes and yes, believe.”
I think my point is that writings, verses, little truism and aphorisms to keep us hyped and feeling positive (I acknowledge we might need those pep talks every so often) is a good thing and they have their place in the world. But let us not get confused and call them poetry!
Anyhow, beauty and happiness is not the end all be all of human existence.
Bhedo,
"Goblins and trolls and orcs and elves are much more realistic than this good will bullshit." Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Now folks, if you want to read poetry read a simple paragraph of Tolkein's!! Though his writing is not necessarily what I like to read or aspire to write, he is an amazing writer with an amazing vision and equally amazing command of the language.
And thank you Ruck, for pointing out that I am entitled to my opinion. Otherwise, I would not have known : ) Much obliged.
I really don’t mean to be a spoil sport, but I have to say, for all the talk about art and literature, this recently back patting and good will shared over really trashy verse is getting to me. And I just have to wonder, is it simply that people have no judgement or are folks just going along to get along? Either way, both suck.
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| joie de vivre |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 02:50 AM
ahem to anepalikt!!!!
P.S. how's Nepal treating you?
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 03:52 AM
Ahem to you too, JDV!!! :)
Nepal is gloriously real, darling! As always.
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| joie de vivre |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 04:09 AM
"they" as in you-know-who!!
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| joie de vivre |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 04:09 AM
glad you're enjoying your stay in Nepal, anepalikt. was in KY this past weekend, met up with your cousins. had a blast until they took me to a gay after hours bar. am not homophobic but do have a problem when other females start grinding up against me!!! my only Q is - what they hell are they doing in a gay bar??????? :-)
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 04:40 AM
Haha! Beats me, JDV. [I'll leave my actual reaction for when we chat:)]
My question to you is, what are YOU doing at this time of night/day?
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 10:36 AM
Anepalikt,
You make a strong argument, very convincing. But come to think of it, aren't poems, powerful and beautiful ones as well or the ones You may appreciate, basically "pep-talks"? And regarding visions, then there is not "good" vision and "bad" vision. They're just differing visions. The rest of the world will not hesitate to call Hitler's vision a "bad" vision. But to him, boy was it powerful and hence "good"!! And the movement (Nazism) it created has impacted the World beyond the decade of its inception. yes, the repercussions were horrific and people to this day, not just Holocaust survivors, bear an indelible psychological "scar" because of it. But to the do-ers of Nazism, theirs was a philosophy, a vision of beauty, of "cleansing" the world of that particular group of people. Of course, genocide of any sort is not to be condoned. Notice that I do not use the words "must not" or "should not" or "ought not" because then judgments become value-laden, and so are "visions." That if actions or visions are value-laden, then change toward a positive outcome is a far cry from actually happening. The minute one imposes "oughts" of values onto actions, or visions, then the other party with a differing vision and values will become defensive and therefore often less resilient to change.
My point here is that no, I did not mean to say that you possess no vision for beauty in poetry. Notice that I ended my last posting with "But you are entitled to yours!" which attests to the fact that perhaps there is a lot of back-patting going on here, or in sajha at large. And I am not saying that this "should" or "should not" happen. Because then I'd be imposing my will onto people who beg to differ, and perhaps justifiably so. Because polarities and multiplicities of opinions are necessary for continuation and longevity of anything. And especially with philosophical/aesthetical constructs such as "visions" and "beauty." Thank you for being a staunch realist in pointing out that there are instances when good-will may not prevail. And regardless of the nature of our "vision" we see goodness prevailing more often than we give credit for. And with all the malice, hatred, killings, and so forth happening in the world, it is only "human" to be skeptical. But in the meantime, many of us in the world, sajha being a microcosm of those believers, happen to see good-will prevail, without denying the existence of the antithetical sentiments. It makes the atrocities of every happenings less unbearable. And certainly, you don't think that believing so in itself is trying to create an illusory utopia, do you? Because then we'd be dwelling in absurd idealism, which is, at least from what I gather, NOT the objective for the general appreciation that floats around sajha. But I am aware that I may stand corrected! :)
In peace.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 10:57 AM
anepalikt is right.Here's a "powerful" poetry. But can you call it beautiful? Why did it offend so many people???
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3596
However, I do realize that I'm going too far.
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 17-Nov-02 10:06 PM
Bhedo, I think we talked about that already. Rather a long time ago. Bichara Baraka. I was rather harsh. :) Do you know if the citizens of the Garden State strip him of his laureatship? Give it to Joisy people to do just such a thing. No offense to you who make Jersy ghar ni pheri.
http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=7366
SimpleGal: Thank you for your response. I was not really trying to convince [but thank you anyhow, though it did seem like I did not convince you entirely : ) ]... just simply passing judgement... unlike you I have no qualms in doing so.
I have always been skeptical of relativism and the idea that there are no “goods” and “bads” just “different.” I know even the slightest “judgement” is condemned and is considered terribly unfashionable in the left leaning circles of academia these days... but “just different” has its limits. For instance I don’t subscribe to Bush’s “Axis of Evil” rhetoric, though I do believe OBL and Saddam are “bad.” I don’t believe in “absolutes” in most cases… and of course it was their “absolutism,” of people like Hitler that led to the murder of 6 million Jews. But it is not our judgement, our ability to discern the "good" from the "bad," our “values” that differentiates us from the animals and the fiends and murderers like Hitler. Kaso?
You said, “Of course, Notice that I do not use the words "must not" or "should not" or "ought not" because then judgments become value-laden, and so are "visions." That if actions or visions are value-laden, then change toward a positive outcome is a far cry from actually happening. The minute one imposes "oughts" of values onto actions, or visions, then the other party with a differing vision and values will become defensive and therefore often less resilient to change.” Thikai bhanyau… tara as I said above, I am not trying to change anyone here though… and of course don’t mean to make people defensive either. : ) Regardless, I would always say, “Genocide should be condemned and stopped.”
Diversity and multiplicities of opinions … especially with regards to aesthetics. Yes, I guess. But personally, I would probably never call the verse on Hallmark cards poetry. Beautiful sentiments they might have and the rhymes exact. I am admittedly a bit of a snob I guess in this case : )
As for good will, great thing, yes, especially at times like these. Fine. Even Utopia is fine. Not my cup of tea, but whatever. I just wondered whether the goodwill is genuine.
Byeeeeeeeee gotta run.
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 06:55 AM
Hyatterika....hana! yo Sajhapur ka badadami mahanubhav haru lai ke bhako? Bush-syndrome le chhoko jasto chha ganthay! 12 barsa kukurko puchhar dhungra ma halyo bangya bangyai.
Ruck le feri dushkritya garyo. Kehi ramro kura saathi bhai sanga baandera, kavita ko maddhyam dwara. Tara saune jhari ma aankha phutya goru le sadhain hariyo dekchha bhanya jastai Sajha badadami mahanubhav haru le tesma pani ego nai dekhe.
Jasari bhaye pani ek arka ko khutto ta tannai paryo. Ek arkai lai nich, hocho dekhaunai paryo. Aafno mapain pushti garnai paryo. Natra Nepali bhako ke nai astitwa rahyo ra? Dhanya parmatma.
Om Shanti
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| NK |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 02:18 PM
khutta tanya jasto ta lagena kasai le pani. soliel le ke dekhnu bho testo?
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 18-Nov-02 11:34 PM
La tyassai khutta tanyo re... "yo man paryo, yo pan parena" bhanna ni nahune. Yaha "yes sir, yes mam" nabhanera "no" bhane ki ta khutta tanyo bhanne rahecha.. this is what keeps htings in check I guess. Tapain pani "Nepalipana" gajab le dhekaunu hudai cha ni ta yaha!
Arulai "akha phutya goru" re... takes one to know one, mero namesake -Soleil Saheb!! Hoina? Kaso?
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 09:31 AM
Chor ko khutta kaat bhanda khutta uchalya jastai bho ni. Hahaha..maile kasai ko naam ta aaunlyake ko thiyeena. Kina jhaskya tesai? Aaj kaal sajhapur ma dherai wrestling herna paaiyo WWF ko jastai po bhanera bhanya.
Dhanya parmatma! Aagra kura garda gagra bujhne, tesaile ta hami Nepali. Feri My Ox's 12 $. Lau lau 16 $ nai diyen. Aafu ta kalo akchhar bhainsi barabar. Yehan haru ko gahakilo chintan kasari bujhnu.
Om Shanti
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| watever |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 08:55 PM
I COMPLETELY agree with Soliel.... bichara le opinion dina paako chhaina guilty party bata jawab katti chhito aayee sakyo... aja feri nepali pana in quotes rakhera arko lai tapai pani ustai ta ho ni re......hahahaha ok ok agreed we are stupid, we have no judgement... we do back patting....we basically are fifth graders AGREED too totally... maybe thats what what is beautiful to us is "trashy"....:O oh me god! you have kid hai?? haha!! poor kid... all that fifth or whatever grade writing he/she does.....
"for all the talk about art and literature"....where do you see all the talk about art and literature in this thread? it was just a simple thread started by a simple girl just sharing what she thought was beautiful or rather made her feel good!! well if you have the right to choose I guess ( I dont think am allowed more than that in ur highness's opinion) so does she!!
reasons for all that.... one ta as pointed by Soliel ego.... Second.....mid-life crisis??? budheskaal?? maiyaaa gaayo aba jaane joban... young at heart bhaye pugena hajurlai? naam ma kt lagakai chha kyara!! Honey we all have our frustrations... people generally feel low about it... I guess(again) it makes you feel a lil too g00d about urself!! or yet another, excessive internet use?? maybe you should leave that for kid's like us!! hehe me ta if you tell me would never grow up(LOL I am sure you have 1000 comments on that too!!)
La malai ta pugyo bhaye bharko time chhaina ma sanga... I hope I have written all I have to say... na bhaye add urself ni... I am assuming you are good at that too... add it in the same tone hai feri I didn't say I know something good about you :P
P.S. jati pani reply if any to my comment....if I dont reply again please dont think I ran away hai pls....ma sanga teti time chhaina k...few more years left for mid-life crisis!! ;)
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 10:46 PM
Soleil...Chor ko kutta kat... tapaile kasaiko naam aulaunu bhayeko thiyena ra mahile pani aafu lai defend gareko ta bhanina ni... ani pheri... agra ko kura gagra ma nai and mero goru ko barai takka. I think we agreed on that a while ago... hoina ra?
Watever... whatever... lamo!
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 10:52 PM
a nepali kt,
Its so hard to believe in life that others can differ from you and YET be right re kya ;)
all in good faith ni :) oys
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 10:58 PM
No actually Oys... it is not that hard. But that does not mean that that one is wrong either, hoina? :)
of course, always in good faith!
anepalikt
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 19-Nov-02 11:11 PM
After reading watever's posting again.. I have to say I am really pissed!! Kasto mean spirited response chi... mero kid dekhi age dekhi drag garera layaune... man!! something I wrote must have dugged you big time. (was it the word "nepalipan" in quotes? I suggest you read Soleil's first post on this thread and read what he says about being Nepali and connect that to my response to him and why I have that particular word in quotes. Regardless... I am feeling ek dum neech and hocchieko :( thanks! so kind of you)
Ani you said you don't have time to write more... I suggest you make that time to say aru ke bhannu cha.. let it all out.... it can be a cathartic experience!! Easy as it is to bring in my kid and whatever else it is that you think you know about me...
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 09:58 AM
anepalikt jyu....hajur lai maile gali gareko jasto ta lagdaina. Kina bhukhna suru garnu bha feri? Ki hajur ko sano chitta futera pitta niklyo. Yeh hajur, hajur kai kuro feri dohoryaun...copy paste gardai chhu:).. hajur le lekhi baksya thiyo:
"La tyassai khutta tanyo re... "yo man paryo, yo pan parena" bhanna ni nahune. Yaha "yes sir, yes mam" nabhanera "no" bhane ki ta khutta tanyo bhanne rahecha.. this is what keeps htings in check I guess. Tapain pani "Nepalipana" gajab le dhekaunu hudai cha ni ta yaha!
Arulai "akha phutya goru" re... takes one to know one, mero namesake -Soleil Saheb!! Hoina? Kaso?"
anepalikt jyu...Hajur le bhani baksya jastai malai pani kehi manchhe haru ko mantabya man parena, tesaile I opinionated. Tetti matra ho, kasailai gali galauch, neech dekhako hoina. I agree it was a bit satirical, sochera heri baksyos, mero awalokan ma kehi satyata chha ki chhaina. Yedi chhaina bhane take it as a bad joke. Kina ugra chandi ko roop liya tesai tesai? Jumur jumur jumurkiyera? hahahahaha....
anepalikt jyu...hajur ek choti feri padhi baksyos, yo thread, suru dekhi. Ani aafai sochi baksyos, manan chintan gari baksyos. Ruck le kun hisaab le post garya thiyo, manchhe haru le kuro kata bangyayera lage. Hoina tetti kura dekhi baksena bhane ma nai aankha phutya goru, bhayo aba? Chitta bujyo hajurko? :)
No pun intended.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 10:01 AM
Whatever....
I think you have said ALL and More than Enough!...... Yes, your words, your spirit, your tone, your attitude, And above all your Nature Comes through!
And I am sure we are all quite impressed by your verbal display and your baring of your soul!
Congratulations hajur! You have NOTHING left to say!
Anepalikt
A hypothesis (which has come to pass in the past...): You and I can differ all we want to... You cannot impose your will and I cannot impose my will on you.... I think we have respected that in the past.
But I will NOT make a personal attack on you and I know you Won't either! So, don't even get into it with those who don't understand the meaning of an "educated" argument .....
YOU are Entitled to your opinions....leave it at that!
And guys....
I think Leonardo Da Vinci's Mona Lisa has been given too much importance! MY personal opinion!!!!!! Does anyone have a problem with my rejecting such a "beautiful" art????????
Well guess what.....accept it or shove it!!!!!!!!! if you can't digest it..... regurgitate!
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 10:02 AM
"Kina ugra chandi ko roop liya tesai tesai? Jumur jumur jumurkiyera?"
haa haa...kanthai parnu paryo yo line ta...khub upayogya hola jasto chha!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 10:29 AM
Hey Poonte,
Go back to your studies.....! I need to too :(
Ruck....
You have a wonderful spirit and it shines though! :)
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 10:31 AM
please dont remind me :(
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| watever |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 02:03 PM
Sitara
thankyou for the Nature analysis but I did know what I was writing and how it sounded therefore I dont have anything to explain or say to you... if you read this thread from the begining and call anepalikt's comments educated arguement... then I have one word for that ............BULLSHIT!!!
cmon Nepalikt you didn't have to take that kid thing so personally... I was just wondering if you call others stupid and fifth graders... what would you say when you see ur own kids writing... its natural I guess people take it personally when it comes to their own... agreeing with sitara that if she chooses to reject Mona Lisa as beautiful she is entitled to that but the fact is if Ruck decides to call Shimons poem beautiful she's entitled to it too... and when others agree with her they are entitled to that??
and one person tells you something(s) about urself you cant take it (which was expected ofcourse!! that was the whole point of it)........ The point is I did not say I know anything about you (neither do I want to)... just saying very plainly and rudely that this was not a who knows more about literature contest... just a simple feel good feeling someone shared!
AND no anepalikt I dont have nore to write more to you... my point was to get the point across to you any which way... if you still dont get it...oh well my time wasted on nothing!!
well after reading to sitara I reread to see what did I write... well I kinda agree with someone it was harsh...she might get the point but it was not harsh enough!!... DAMN I must be loosing my charm... but I thought it was written ok considering the fact that I cant write!!!ok enough of my time wasted in this... ciao wellwishers ;)
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 02:15 PM
Whatever,
I know something good about you too:
You are Expressive!!!! :)
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| Suna |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 02:57 PM
khoi aru kehi thaha chaina, tara Sitara ley bhaneyjhai...Mona Lisa HAS been given too much importance!! The painting I mean and nothing else hai pheri!!
Everybody crowds around this 8 feet high glass case, all for the sake of a glimpse!! A mere glimpse...well what can I say...Mr. Vinci has made heads turn and blames it on Mona!
I thought I was the only "freak" who didn't quite "get" the beauty of it!!
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 03:10 PM
Who said MonaLisa has been given too much importance??
Sitara jyu did?
I agree, I thought I was the only one.
"Artha na bartha ko jaisi gai, peon ko dushman lohani dai"
Tyo belama budha haru lutuputu bhayera behosh hunthe hola, monalisa lai dekhera.
Ahile Kasta kasta MONA ra LISA haru aai sake, tyo Leonardo baaje lai ke tha? Leo budha ahile janme bhane taruni dekherai behosh mathi behosh hunchan. Leo budha le aafno BF lai yaad gardai bana holan ni ta Monalisa, thats why dekhdai MARDANA cha.. hehe.
By the way, I respect the genius in Leonardo Da Vinci. That budha was pro in Medical to mathematics to painting to etc etc. And I am born Dumb.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 05:29 PM
Aja ke bhayechha Kalanki moro lai...jata herae pani "...I am a born dumb" lekhya chha. Ke bho, kaji? Pyakuli le ke bhanyo? Oyster dai jasto hou, natra poilo gaidinchhu bhanera dhamki diyin ki ke ho? Mori ko dhamki lai chamak dekhaideuna. Hamle pani janya chha ni testa nakkali haru lai thik parna...mori ko patuka le haat khutta bandhera tukucha ma faldim? Hera, mero bhai oyster ta sojho chha...asadhai bhaladmi...usle chahin poilo lanna kasailai...tara aru nai koi sanga gayechha bhane, kya bolle? Hum uska taang todke galae mudal denge! Samjha? Appun hai tere liye! (sano manchhe haat ko 1 inchi thick muscle fulaundai, buruk buruk ufrandai...fan-fanti ghumdai!) Ani tyo nakkali pyakuli lai nangai shahar ghumaina bhane ta ma pani marda ko chhora hoina...la ja!
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 05:33 PM
BTW, Kalanki...
Tyo nakachari Pyakuli timri lai ta maile hijo pani tyanki muni Sigdel jyu sanga haatae-malo garera basi rako dekhethen...
Tei ke tei, palla ghare Sigdel ;)
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 08:53 PM
Sitara:
Thank you... I appreciate your kind words.
Soleil:
Your facetious tone speaks volumes... and the "jues" only underline the contempt. Never did I say you galli garoed me... but since you had said you were not pointing fingers I was just saying neither was I defending myself. I thought my last response to was rather funny and light... but of course I was irked by watever's lame posting. The "ugra chandi" comment was rather funny, but "sano chitta ko pitta futera" ke re? Sorry I got into it with you. Man, did I read you wrong. La have a good one.
Watever,
Whatever... lamo!!
Ruck:
I apologize if I made you feel bad. That was really not the intention.
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 20-Nov-02 09:32 PM
Poo Jyu,
Hasaayo!!
La la ... SOS bolaula,
cell number paam ta hazur?
bho bho pardaina!! Minute ko 200 chanchun laagcha...
Hazur ko naam ma euta bageri khaide maile lau jaa!!
;)
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| watever |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 07:22 AM
aNepalikt:
LAME POSTING?? did you actually write that??? :O I am downright flattered!!!!! :D just wondering though if a lame posting can do that imagine what a not-so-lame one will do to you? hehe me flattered... well you like monalisa might get inflated sense of self importance so DONT mind if I refrain from answering you any further..... BY the way, what is lamo?? pahila ta I thought it was LMAO but then again why would you be Laughing right? LOL
SItaraaaaaaaa.....
thanks :)...I know something good about you too ;)
well about Leonardo and MonaLisa... as limited as my knowledge is, here goes nothing... Leonardo as we all know was what we call a man of many talents ... and MonaLisa was not "beautiful" it was just a masterpiece re(they say there is a diff. between the two) ...if you just plainly look at it you can call it khoi naramro maybe..I know I do...when I first heard about it I thought she must be a beautiful girl...imagine my disappointment on seeing the actual picture!!!! I literally said THATS Monalisa... ugh :S .... :D there are many stories on the issue of who she was... my favourite one is that it was a self-potrait of Leonardo, he perceived himself as a female (that must have been hard...just imagine how many men can actually do that??) Monalisa is a masterpiece because it shows his immense knowledge of human anatomy... or atleast thats what they say hai... well as I have not seen it I cannot give any judgement myself but do I hope to be one of those clamouring to get a glimpse if I get a chance... :D His most famous painting,however, is The Last Supper. Ok monalisa for anatomy agreed (maybe) but what was the supper thing all about?
Soliel.....
clever clever.. maybe I should take lessons from you on sataritical writing...but then again me happy with ma lame posting for the time being :D
OKies :S am not going to write no more in sajha...people please dont involve my name in ur discussions!!
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:42 PM
errr..i thought she meant "LAAAMO as in LONGG" posting..
what a massive propulsion :) eheh
whatever ;) don't worry, even though ur not good at satirical writing, u r princess in satirical editing :)
oys
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:41 PM
Last Supper? Boy, when you see these "big wig" paintings in real life it is mind blowing. Not because it is that astounding or astonishing but because of its simplicity, because of its surrounding, becuacuse of its mortality.
This Last Supper by the way is not painting in a strict sense. It is a Frescol. Meaning painted direrctly on the wall. In a very small church (refectory). Infront of Rome's towering and magnificent Dumo, it (the church ) is almost insignificant. And the state of that painting! Everything was peeling off. You could hardly find Judas. Jesus's hair was almost gone and so was his bread [the memory is fading now :)] 3 people were working on it to "restore." Of course that initself is controversial. You see these artists did not paint these to last this long - they were not THINKING of it. they just got some commission to do some painting and they gave their best shot. Over time people see the beauty or the work behind it and the rest is history as they say. So where was I??? Anyway, I h ear it is "restored" now but it is NOT the original anymore.
I like how Greeks did not restore Parthenon or how Germans left the bombed out church as it is. Authenticity. There is something to be said about it.
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| Logical Sense |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:49 PM
Baapre, Katro Laamo Kura.
Kura Ra Kulo Lai Jata Lagaye Pani Jancha Re.
Ruck is long gone from this thread, but, it keeps on going, nothing outlasts Energizer Battery.....
What I get out of her nice poem is it is always good to apprecieate someone for what they are.
Even management teaches that. If you start with something positive (though the managed knows that it is management trick), but still feels good and motivated. And, motivated person achieves a lot....
Recently one of Nepalese leaders blabbered "only if we had learnt how to appreciate others, we would have been different society"
- iti
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 09:58 AM
anepalikt jyu... aafo ta tripureswor ko tarkari line ko sarkari ishkool padhya. Kilaas chhodi chhodi guchha kehliyo. Kalo akchhar bhainsi barabar. Tyo gai khane bhasa aaundai aayena. Aba budhesh kaal lage pachhi yeso siki topaliyuun bhanera gai khana thalya ek jug naghi sakda pani yo gobray buddhi ma gai khane bhasa chhirna sakena. Hajur ta padhe lekheko maha-gyani bidwani stri, angreji ma ta hajur ko nikkai jod bhayeko payen, tara hajur ko Nepali ke bhako ni? Nepali bujhnu hunna ki kaso? Malai ta testai lagyo:).
Kuro nai garne ho bhane hajur kehi pani bujhi baksinu hunna. Tyo ta hajur ko nani dekhya lagi bani bhane pani hunchha. Kurai nabujhi hajur bich bich ma bhuki baksinchha ni, tyo pangray kukur bhukya jastai. Ani hajur lai jaba aru le bhukna thalchhan, ani hajur ko gyan aaunchha ki galti bhayechha bhanera. Hajur le pahila pahila pani yestai gari baksinthyo. Tara kehi chhaina, hajuur Nepali keti pari baksechha. Bihari keti pari baksya bhaye Raanchi pathai dinthe:) Kyarnu.
Aba feri bichara ho ki bichari Watever sanga ke ko jori khoji bakseko ni? Ugra chandi mata le ajhai chhodeki chhainan?
Lau na, parnu peer paryo. LAMO haansaun ki LMAO haansaun bhayo. Ummm....lau ta nepalikt jyu le bhanibaksya jastai Lamo haanschhu....... 12" inchi lamo hansai:)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 03:07 PM
Oys_Chill,
Just like my granddaughter, whateva, I am also kind of dumbo when I stumble upon the satirical writings. Anybody offering any SAT101 class (Satirical writing 101)?? Sitara Ji, do u offer that class;)
I know something about you too:p
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 03:10 PM
I am offering CHAT 101, if u r interested :P
also offering internships in it ;) ehehe
oys
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| najar |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 03:12 PM
oys sir, internship paid ho ki unpaid? :)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 03:15 PM
Oys babu,
K garnu babu...I have a Ph.D. degree in chitchat. K garnu. In 1985, I was offered Ph.D. from Stanford University, but I, for my won account, rejected the offer;)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 03:16 PM
won= own
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 04:38 PM
najar dizzu, its fully paid......including housing, and your health insurance(chat garda there are so many occupational hazards ni ;) )
only condition is you gotta make FOOOOD ! eheh
some salient features of my chat course:
* how to fish without a net!
* how to pet a shark!
* how to change pen pal into a heart pal!
* how to kill time without getting bored!
* how to refute to a mass confidently!
and above all, how to increase your typing speed ;)
najar dizzu.....pheri bijulipatra ko intejaar ma :(! tyo mugling ko bhogate sadhne fantasy pani tatochiti mai lekhe huncha ni boru :P
rusty dai, i forgot your rejection ni! that's why offering you again ;) its never too late......you are young, life is long, there's time to kill today ;) :)
oys
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 06:32 PM
Rusty ji.....
SAT 101 (Satire 101)
With pleasure hajur! I need to see your IQ...I think bhedo has the links to it!!!
:)
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| najar |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 11:09 PM
Mero pyaro bhai Oys, you make me so proud dear....timro intajaar sooooon fulfil hunechha :) and your suggestion pani duly consider garchhu.
p.s--malai internship ko laagi chahin register gardi haala hai babu for 3 credits--spring semester. I meet the prerequisite and the salient features are too good to say no
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