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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:32 PM
I found myself amused at the following observations brought to my attention by an undergrad student of mine this morning:
1. Girls are gals, boys are guys. But girls are also guys, although boys are never gals.
2. Girls wear skirts, boys wear pants. But girls also wear pants, although guys (except the Scottish and some Native American tribes perhaps!) never wear skirts.
3. Girls are emotional, boys are task oriented. But girls are also task oriented, although boys (ahem!) are never emotional.
(Recent masculinity studies refute the generalizability of the latter, however). But was intrigued by the prevailing stereotype.
These are the ones that come to mind. Found them worth pondering.
Please bring in your "points to ponder" if you please! :)
In peace.
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:43 PM
hERE IS MY TWO MILLION WORTH :)
Guys like to debate inconconsquential stuff in the pretense of debating/national importance
Their egos are bigger than size of Boulder Colorado (trying to rhyme)
They cannot wait to flaunt their woman like she is an object! Look at my woman the Cindy Crawfoot alike! (haven't they done some women studies???? or what???????? Which era are they in?????????????/)
They like to flaunt anthing big, either their own or their partners'. Look at my big house, look at my big boat,their big salary, their "big" job, ----hey folks, look at my girl friend's big........... hair do! [;)]
They are incredibly insecure. They are ready to jump at anything or anybody who even remotely threaten their masculanity. Their supposed intelligence, their pride (vanity rather)
They are incredibly shallow and vengeful. They have an elephantine memory when it comes to remembering who wouned them when and who said how many million years ago.
more later....
[my observation is solely based on Sajha b asi]
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| slipknot |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:49 PM
Until the day girls, like men, can walk down the streets donning bald heads and flatulent beer bellies without any shame and full of pride, boys will be boys, girls will be girls. :)
Peace!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:52 PM
honestly, i was with a cindy crawford look alike last night.. she was so hot that i had to take off my jacket...flamingly hot :=)..
drank campari...when the time to pay the bill came.. i figured out, i didn't have any cash on me.. so i just put the bill on my dollar-account credit card..kya ramailo bhayo..
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:55 PM
wanna hear what happened after that???
I wok up from my dream....it was already 7 AM.....kya jhyau bhayo
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| Suna |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 12:55 PM
slipknot: Okay
what if I told you I HAVE donned a bald head and flaunted my beer belly..can you boast of wearing a bra and a skirt - WITHOUT ANY SHAME?
:)
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:06 PM
Have you ever seen a cock-fight? have you seen them all bloody and crippled in the midst cheering of onlookers???
Do you know what I mean???????
And yes slipknot i agree with you. boys will be boys and girls will be boys.
For a moment let's look at the women of Sajha.
Let's look at our SimpleGal. Does anyone have a doubt she is an intelligent woman? How about Sally and Sitara and what about Suna?
Sure there were some instances of little "cat fight" but it lasts so briefly, we all forget what that was about or even if it ever happend?
But nooooooooooooooooo .Wwhen male species are involved, it is entirely different matter. They remember and remember and remember. They guide you (the readers in this instance)very methodically to revisit the past. I wonder where they store these kind of memories? Do they build a house just to house their grievances? I mean you need a pretty freaking big house for that kind of storage.
I find women a bit melo dramatic in all fairness, but it is not as dangerous to others as well as to themselves as men in adreln. rush to "right" the "wrong." Just look at those alpha males,I mean those fighting 'Bhale.'
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:13 PM
good memory is essentiatl to survive.. you should be able to trace things to pre-historic ages and prove your point....(or win a debate)
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:26 PM
Do you know why we forget IF? Forgetting HAS a beeeeeeeeeeg importance in our evolution. If we remember each and every bad things that happeneded to us then it would be too painful to live. WE MUST forget in order to live a fruitiful life. The science says that and scripture says that.
Also, our brain is not bottom less barrel where you can put everything and it still never fills up. It *does* fill up eventually. That is why the "memory loss" in old age. There is no place to put things in. It is like a file cabinet.
I read in Scientific America or something like that. just click on some science journal and you will find out that I am not joking this time.
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| Lucky_Strike |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:31 PM
which just goes on to prove NKs point....just see...kya example chha.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:34 PM
scintif american.. iwm ould ratehr read sports illsutrated....!!
see, when you forget bad things in life, then.. good things don't make you excited.. you need to remember all the bad that has happened to you... so that you can enjoy all the good things that happens to you..
okay.. a freak remains a freak.. don't even knjow what i am typing...
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:47 PM
Here we go again!! Another Gender issue,
Simple Jyu,
I know all the vulgar answer to this, which I don't think is appropriate here!!
Anyway,
Girls who are also guys, are dykes on the bikes!!
baaki aayena!:P
Aaaja din nai kharab cha ni ooooo!!
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| Dilasha |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:48 PM
heh heh Simplegal, simple points to ponder there.... :)
ha ha NK pretty good observation there! :)
following the bandwagon, lemme see if i can add more:
they also say that "girls" are heavily into "gossip" while guys are NOT but my o my, i've met guys who ARE into gossip the "back biting" arena and some do so with a vehement passion.
but I've also found out contrary to what I thought before, that men, no matter how strong and unaffected by emotional situations they think they are, can be very vulnerable and they think that it is not good to show their emotional sides thinking it's a sign of "weakness" thus failing to understand that it isn't. Women do love to observe and comprehend that aspect of men which very few men share with them. And no it is not a sign of weakness!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:53 PM
la mahila -ekkta huna thalyo..
mahila bhaneko=women but if you remove h from mahila, it become maila(dirty);=)
no disrespect intended.. just for fun.. kalratri, bhawni.. bhagwaati, saraswati, chamunda, sabai jana don't come after me with your weapons.. i am just a freakingly freaky freak..make sense? no..
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| Suna |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:54 PM
kalanki:
now in all fairness and gender equality - how about one for the guys who are also girls??
am waiting - breathlessly!
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:57 PM
One thing women do not practice is "puret", have heard puret baajes but not puret bajais for pooja, bihe, bratabandha..
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:59 PM
Suna, aayena!!
kyarne?
:P
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 01:59 PM
That's true and I think it is because of gender biases. Not that they are not cabable of doing it.
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| Suna |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:02 PM
NK: It could also because when we are menstruating, we are supposed to be "dirty" or wara sareyko. Can you imagine a temple being closed for 8 days?
I can! :)
Kalanki: kaan molney!
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| jira |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:07 PM
" Wwhen male species are involved, it is entirely different matter. They remember and remember and remember. They guide you (the readers in this instance)very methodically to revisit the past. "
NK! ho ho la, astina naya naya hunda malai ni gali garya thyo 3/4 jana lay, thread ra manchey ko naam samjhi ra chu, ek deen jammayera deenu parcha bhanthanya chu...rey kya ajha last ma...No fun intended rey kya ajha serious bha jasto garera....hehe. Ma ekkai cheen hya padhan ako ..ke recha bhanera, jawun hai. Narisawu la...
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:09 PM
Suna Timi le molideu na!! aafai ke molai bho!! :P
"afna ta maadev ka uttana jara, kolle dela bara"
hehe............
By the way,
Guys cannot be emotional re. Ma emotional bhai dim? Mero emotional love story tragedy parya katha sunaam?? Simplejyu, NKJyu, Sunajyu, DilashaJYU lai dhuru dhuru naruhai de mero naam ni "kalanki austin" hoina.. lau jaa ta!!
(i am emotional right now)
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| jira |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:12 PM
Sawuni ki chori lai maita lina ga belako bhandewu na... astiko kya ta..tyai..kya senti cha ni tyo ke austi ko
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:16 PM
And there is no melmilap/bonding among sajha men--jhagada matrai garchhan. Look at the bonding among/betn sally, suna, NK, jdv, simplegal, dilasha, sitara et. al are..Milera, khushi bhayera basya chhan despite occasional disagreement, which as NK pointed out, does not last too long.
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:19 PM
Is there any virtual about this "virtual sajhaland?" me think not. it is a microcosm of a society as Sally pointed out a long time ago.
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:20 PM
Najar Jyu,
Jatti mile ra basae ni kyaarnu,
china ma sun cha mero kaan buchchai!!
aaanch?
U pani feri "janana" matrai aaucha... Mardana ukhan chaina kehi?
"aakash ko fall ankha tari mar"
kyaarnu..
afno ta badluck nai kharab cha!!
Jira, ho ra bhanya... re kyaa ajha last ma!!
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:23 PM
ani jira, timi chai tyo rish rag birsideu. natra ulcer hola ulcer! nappataya hamro "alpha male" (s) lai sodha.
teita bhanya najar. milna ta janekai chainan. Excercise in democracy rey! haha. like talking about somebody's phateko kattu is talking about economic state of the land where that phaya kattu walla resides. of course it could be. But you see something streeeeeeeeeeeeching here?
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:24 PM
Kalanki, tapain china ko chhimeki hoina ra, teti najikai pani gayera liyera aaunus na ta soon, kaan bhari jhammakka lagauna...ani soon chahin aafailai ho ki sauni ko chhori lai? :)
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| jira |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:28 PM
NK! "alpha male" ? dhila cha ke mero....
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:28 PM
Jira lai Ulcer??
hehehe!!
Ulcer pani talai hune, cancer pani talai hune, Jundice pani talai hune!!
Saade le ni talaii haane, kukhura le ni talai lakhatne!!
kyaa ho? Paad rogi ho ki kya ho, paad rogi?
Jaad kum gari churot kum gar ani bhaat kha re kya ajha last ma!!!!
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:29 PM
I absolutely do NK!!! your analogy of phateko kattu is superb!! :))
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:31 PM
Najar jyu, Huna ta Sunar gau pani kalanki nirai ta cha ni. Gayera "bhote talcha" forna jaanu bhayena -- sun chorna lai. Hazur le baru parcel garidum na, Amrica ma ta khoob suna nai suna cha bhanchan? hehe... Sauni lai lagera bujaune bittikai sauni ki chori merai...!!
Suna, can i borrow some Soon from you? hehe
re kyaa ajha last ma
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:36 PM
"alpha male" bhanya ni tha chaina Jira jyu? kastoo twankss...!!
Justo Theta huncha ni, greek letter, angle ma use garcha ni.......
theta = male
alpha is greek letter so is theta
that mean alpha is approximately close to theta
that means
theta is alpha
so alpha male.
(aba mathematically prove garera dekhaam ki kya ho?? predicator laayera)
re kya ajha laast ma!!
Maine kaalimati ki thiti ko dil diya
uski baap ne mujhe pita
maine kaalimaati ki thiti ko dil diya
uski baap ne mujhe pita
sin theta upon cos theta
equals to tan theta .... re kya jhan ta last ma!!
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:42 PM
NK--nice observations there! My fav part: Boys will be boys, and girls will be boys. :)))
Suna--Ahem, I've noticed that Sknot dai hasn't yet responded to your dare! That was witty on your part!! hehehe
Kalankiji--Gals who are guys are dykes on bikes re? Naaah....not alway....Does the word TOMBOY ring a bell???? :)
Dilasha--on the emotional bit, yes I think it's a HUGE stereotype that women alone are emotional. Melodramatic, yes perhaps to a greater Degree than men. But emotional, well, men are MUCH MORE EMOTIONAL than women. For instance, if a woman is rejected by a man, she, with her social and interactional support, can and do recover from the shock MUCH faster than men. The latter, with their gigantic egos will writhe internally, their grudges and wounds housed, as NK said, in the houses they seem to have built to house them in! And consequently, take much longer to recover. On the surface, they seem to have recovered, but the slightest touch on the raw nerve (if you are gifted enough to find it because they conceal it most of the time) sends them on a rampage of defensiveness!! Women's egos are like a feather--here now, gone next. Men's egos are like thorns, not stones--pricking them and others now and next. :) If they were stones, they'd break against something and that would be the end of it. They're more like thorns because that pricking pain is a nagging one and men are not, to be honest, happy under the heaviness of their egos.
But of course, going by the argument Boys will be boys, girls will be boys (I just love it, NK!!), there are girls with inflated egos, too! And then of course, we'd also have to say that boys will also be girls----they just don't know it!!! :)
In peace.
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| kalankisthan |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:45 PM
Simple Jyu,
Tom boy ko yaad nadilai bakshiyosh na!! "kuch kuch hota hai" yaad aucha. Kuch kuch hota hai yaad aayo pachi, Kajol yaad aucha.. kaajol yaad aayeshi.. .kajol le bihe garisakya kura yaad aaucha, kajol le bihe garya kura sunyo ki bhakkano chutera aaucha... Please!! Malai Tomboy yaad nadilaunus!!
i am emotional again!!
booo hoo hoo hooooo!!! (mummy)
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| jira |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 02:49 PM
pheri kajol lay bya garya yaad ayesi tyo Ajay devgan yaad awuncha, tyo yaad ayesi tesko anuhaar yaad awuncha, tesko anuhaar yaad ayesi mero thotro jutta yaad awuncha....sarki ka lanu paurney cha silawuna....tyaslai ni
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| Suna |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:01 PM
Simplegal
Slipknots silence could mean two things :- he's just too busy to be dared OR he is thinking of something witty to put me budhi down. Well whatever the outcome of that dare, it will be a worthwhile spectacle!! :)
Eyes wide shut took on a different meaning today :).
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| slipknot |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:09 PM
Okay, work had kept me away, but now that I am here, Suna, my god, do you have that- big belly and a bald head? How about this: this thanksgiving, you meet me at DuPont Circle, bald head and your beer belly breathing through the navel, and I'll clad myself in a woman's undergarments; don't have any myself, can I borrow yours? btw, your being preggers is not the same as having a beer belly!
:)
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:11 PM
big belly and bald head...katai mero kura kati ra ta hoinana yini haru????????
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| Deep |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:13 PM
"Does the word TOMBOY ring a bell???? :)"
Ho la ho......tyo biratnagar ko tin tolia uta patti ko khai ke ko ho mandir ma Rameshe sanga ek choti janda tyaha kera khara basirako Thom Prasad lai aarati garne belama "Thom Bhai (TomBoy)" ghanta bajauta bhanera arhako thyo.....ho la ho..."tomboy" does indeed ring the bell. Puraano kuro yaad aayo. Ajha saanj ni Tomboy le bajauchha hola ghanta! "Tomboy ring the bell" bhane holan aaja ni! kathai!
sambho!
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| dhumbasse (dumbass) |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:13 PM
Amazing ...how quickly this thread increased and elongated...by the courtesy of our dear Mahila barga
taI do not know if the nepalese women just need some excuse or some place to vend all their anger, frustration, sorrow, pir, marka ...aba hund hunda ta Mahila -yekata...huh!!
So, methinks, all these women were around all day today, loitering around sajha ko galli , , waiting for some occasion, any occasion as a matter of fact, to lash out on the Alpha male..and Voila !! SImplegal started something she is proud of,and rightfully so..:) and again my dear ladies are showing off their, only theirs', talent, vending off their brain out here at this moment which they think is making them proud..so much so they do not even mind getting dirty ( gati chadne) like they are preparing for ( Rattyaullii) ...at the same time they don't mind pointing at the Alpha male ..the atmosphere seems to be filled with the gossip " if they can do it why can't we."
If they can fight, so can we..If they can be puret, so can we. ..I they can talk big shi* , so can we........ similarly if they can talk trash , so can we...
when is the culture of comparision...women comparing to men ..is going to disappear and men comparing themselves to women appear..
kahile aaula tyo din..jaba maile mero soocer khelne choro lai Pele sanga dajna nakhojera Mia hamm sanga dajaula...kinahola manel mandaina ..
Mero dui paise buddhi le bhancha..tyo din tadha chaina ..if women stop talking but actually doing it ...
ma ta Jira lai khojdai aayeko..Jira lai dekhina...lage ma ta..
DIdi bahini ko jay hos !! :)
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| slipknot |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:13 PM
And Suna, if we do meet, we'll call it even, we're both equal. Until then, I am sooooooo different. :)
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| jira |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:25 PM
Dhumba! ma ta yaso hallindai pashupati ako, ke tha? aja teej raicha yata.......yattai ramailo cha malai....
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| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:40 PM
Jira teej ma dherai hallera nabasha hai ...bhagai laglan ni..ki side handai basheko ...dohori gaunda
la hera !! amamamamaa!! yo jira pani Rato luga lagayera aako rahicha ..la hera!! tyo ke ni tyo kakhima chyapeko ..
kahai khai !! ye la kun chahiko phariya po parecha ...ke ho jira bao!! malai ta dar lagcha yesto aaimai aaimai bha thamama .. yeklai duklai hinda kheri. tyes mathi timro yo rato lugako cahlale ta timi dekhi nai dar lagna thali sakyo ...pheri tyo hulma yeutale aathyao bhane ..hosh gara hai Jira !!..aajkal ka chulliyeka aaimaiharuko bhar hudaina ke..tehi bhayera ..
tyo timile gaunaai janeko chaina rahicha ..kohi pani aaudain timisanga..ke aasha garea bashi ra ko ...
ye! didi bahini lai kurera bashi ra re..Guff dincha jira !! la ma ta lage.. yeta dherai bashna hundaina ..sajha pani parna aatyo..
Tij ko upalxyma didi bahinilai shubha kamana tadahi bata .aafulai ta thaha pani thiyena aaja teej bhanera.....
jay shambhoooooo!! hamro yesto din khaile aaune ho..hami pani ta nangai aaidinthayu ni timro darbarma.....Kharani dhasera...sarko tandai....HARA!!HARA!! MAHADEV!!
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 03:50 PM
Hey simps, did not you like that phateko kattu analogy like our najar did? But thanks for making not of others things.
now you know right jira? Thank your stars we have Kalankisthan in our midst. :)
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 04:05 PM
darn......najar dizzu ko quote ta chutyo ni......natra mero comment ko samarthya nai rahena ni :( lemme repost!
here it goes again!!
"........nd there is no melmilap/bonding among sajha men--jhagada matrai garchhan. Look at the bonding among/betn sally, suna, NK, jdv, simplegal, dilasha, sitara et. al are..Milera, khushi bhayera basya chhan despite occasional disagreement, which as NK pointed out, does not last too long. "
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HAHAHAH!! najar dizzu, ekdam ghaaut paryo..........u should have told me when it was hasne time ni! yesto joke ni garne hami sanga? lau....mare ma ta!! kasto 20 carot sacho kura gardya ni ;) DESPITE OCCASIONAL DISAGREEMENT must be the missed punchline ;)
NK ji, on second thoughts about gender bias, have you ever wondered, who are more prone on creating such biases :) ? I am sure you will reinforce the answer in a few mins :)
jus a oys thought!!
chill chill! milera basna parcha hai? eheh
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 04:31 PM
:]]]]
yo series of broad grins chahin mero sakkhai bhai Oys lai :-)
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 04:44 PM
i DON'T BELIEVE NI BLOOD RELATIONS HAI ;)
NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER BIAS ;)
EHEH
OYS
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| najar |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 04:47 PM
oys, ke re? Is that a rejection to this sista???!!!
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| protean |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 04:48 PM
Hmmm,
Isn't this a gross generalization?????
Anway, this statement just popped out in stark CONTRAST while I went through this thread:
"Boys will be boys, and girls will be Boys."
So, although this generalization about men being this and that is floating about, why are girls to be BOYS?
Isn't it to be like them???? :-)
I wonder :-)
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 21-Nov-02 05:10 PM
GENDER ROLES are placed by society's expectations...... and each individual society has different criterias for the gender roles within their own society!
One salient point, the roles are affected depending on whether you come from a Matriarchial or Patriachial society! The day, society stops imposing the values on gender roles, current and prevalent male and female stereotying will change!
Aba rayo biological make which can be changeable :P.....But again it needs external intervention! :)
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| Suna |
Posted
on 22-Nov-02 10:27 AM
This thread is NOT about gender bias nor the lack of biases of any kind. It is about comparing/analyzing the "stigmas" that exist on either genders.
It is also about MAKING FUN of the alpha males who are going AT IT (decently! may i add) but also to mention that REGARDLESS of the stigmas that exist regarding females, MALES HERE ON SAJHA seem to be no less!!
LA JA!
hyaaaaaaa kattttttttti kura ghumaunu, katti satirical comments lekhnu!
Lets call a kadai a kadai shall we??
WE WOMEN ARE GLEEFUL THAT YOU MEN OUTDO US!!
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| Suna |
Posted
on 25-Nov-02 07:40 AM
okay!!
enough is enough!
I had enough of fun with the clash of egos - aba ta laaj lagna thalisakyo!!!
WHAT IS UP WITH OUR MALES??? (some that is!)
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| NK |
Posted
on 25-Nov-02 08:13 AM
Suna, what it all means is they (some) are worser than any other worstests!
It means losing sights.
It means Icarus's job is to come down!
It means (for these people)do what I say not what I do.
It means "I am stupidd! Don't you get it fools?" (these people seem to be saying).
It means "I am so blinded by my desire to get the whole goddamn thing straight, I don't realize I am making myself a fool's fool!!"
I will think of something later. Now, I must go food shopping. :))
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