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| M.P. |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 04:42 AM
Congree might opt for a republican state!!!
http://kantipuronline.com/kol_news.html#Koirala%20says%20NC%20might%20opt%20for%20republican%20state
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| taha cha |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 04:47 PM
oh.. please... he is a loser..
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| acharya |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 06:19 PM
I am so confused. I don't know whom to support. Both King and Girija are losers!
(M.P.), Help me out.
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 28-Nov-02 11:38 PM
Hare, acharya bandhu,
Girija babu 'Koirala' bhayi kana testo
Gyanendra 'maranchyaase' bhayi kana testo
Hajur 'Acharya' bhayi kana yesto?? :)
I am glad that you are at least 'confused'. It is good to take time and decide whom to chose than to worship the Winner right away!
How about forming an "Acharya-Coalition"? May be our ever-a-dissident Miss Chatter-box, aka Shailaja Acharya, and Mr Lajaalu, aka Mahesh Acharya, can help! :) Then, there is one out-of-status MP Dilliraam Acharya from my district, a doctor [he said he had a PhD (by the way, this is the "word of the month" in Sajha) in Economics; family sources say he also has a PhD in "Nepotism"], who might help us out :)
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Following the HahooGuru tradition of including an aatma-britaanta in almost every posting, and on the auspicious occasion of having to discover that there is atleast one political leader who can speak up openly against the Monarch, I would like to share a part of the phone conversation that I had with an unknown person [now a known person] recently:
Him: ....."Ani bhaai ko naam k?"
[I tell first name]
Him: ....."[first name] k? Thar k ho?"
Me: --Manmanai: "J bhaye ni talai k matlab?"
--Loudly: "Acharya"
Him: "Oho, la gajab. Mero maawali pani Acharya ho. Kathmandu maa ghar kahaa?"
Me: --Manmanai: "Hare shiva! Kasto thees raichha!"
--Loudly: "Kathmandu maa ghar hoina; dera! Mero ghar Arghakhanchi ho."
Him: "Oho, Arghakhanchi baata America aako? Buwaa k garnu hunchha?"
Me: --Manmanai: "Tero taauko"
--Loudly: "Kehi garnu hunna."
Him:..."Ani bhaai le Kathmandu maa padheko ho, kun school maa?"
Me: --Manmanai: "Lau yelle chhai mero baaremaa phD nai garni bhayo. Deepak Gyawali
bhanyaa yehi ta hoina? :)"
--Loudly: "[the name of my high school]"
Him:..."Ani aile kahaa padhdai chhou? Kun College ho?"
Me: --"[Name of my college] College. Pennsylvania maa ho."
Him:..."Pennsylvania maa garnu garnu, Slippery Rock maa kina apply nagryaa?"
Me: --Manmanai: "US News le rank garera bhayena, Princeton Review le analysis garera
bhayena, aba yo jantu le "college-ranking" garera k naapne ho."
--Loudly:" Maile chineko dherai saathi haru Slippery Rock University maa jaanchha.
Tehaa teti scholarship didaina."
[He says he had been cooking and tells me to hold for a minute. Comes back after 4 minutes]
Him: ...."Herana tarkaari nai dadhechha."
Me: --Manmanai: "Khuching!! Talaai mero unnecessary interview lina parni."
--Loudly: "Ay"
Him: ...."Srimati farkina dhilaa garchha ki bhanera pakaauna thaaleko"
Me --Manmanai: "Eutaa logne- maanchhe le chhai America aayera kehi sikechha."
--Loudly: "Ay"
Him: ...."Aghi haami k kuraa gardai thiyo re?"
Me: --"Manmanai: Hare Shiva. Feri tehi kuraa"
--Loudly: "Birsen"
Him: .... "Ani, bhaai ko 'major' k ho?"
Me: --Manmanai: "Aba chhai yo gadhaa laai pelnai paryo."
--Loudly: "Arthasaastra ra Raajnitysaastra."
Him: ...."Oho, bhaai ta 'pure' Nepali bolchha ni"
--Manmanai: "Tyo typical Gorkhe-English/ Jabarjasti-English sunne bhaye ANA convention maa jaa na. Pakh talaai, arko question sodhish bhane 15 wotaa Nepali SAT-words use garera reply dinchhu."
--Loudly: "testai ho."
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| KALANKISTHAN |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 08:09 AM
MP, haha.. that was cool... your writing. oops its M. P. .. whattaa confusion
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 09:49 AM
Kalanki enjoys MP's observation and AtmaBritanta, who claimed to have learned from the great Guru of Sajha.com i.e. Mapai HahooGuru:
Following the HahooGuru tradition of including an aatma-britaanta in almost every posting,....
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Thank you MP for your greatness to appreciate me .... Hahoo haru ko pani TSN walla le kura sunne dina ayechha haina ta.... I am the great bhanera hide bho maile... naak fulayera ...... lou hera hai mitra ho, mero style man paryo re hamro great TSN chief lai....
HG
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| bipin |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 10:35 AM
Not that I am in support of KG usurping power, but about Girija babu, pleeeease... The only reason he is doing it is to create a "Grand Design" flavor to protect himself and his daughter in case if the CIAA decided to go after them. Don't give him too much credit. He had a great opportunity to change the history of Nepal by being one of the most powerful PMs, yet he chose to f*** it up, and trust me, this is from his own Kangressi friends. Further, how can he talk about democratic values when he himself has never practiced it himself within his own party? Girija needs to move over to make room for the younger generation of Kangressi leaders. Else the country is doomed.
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| Garibjanata |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 01:09 PM
Hey BIPIN, WHY ARE YOU ALL SO PAROCHIAL IN YOUR SOCHAI? NEAPLI KANGRESS BAHIRA TA SOCHNAI NASAKNE! TYAHI PARTY KO BADMASHI LE GARERA 17 SAL AYO, ANI TYAHI PARTY LE GARERA PHERI AHILE 17 sal parkyo.TAI PANI NEPALI HARU KO BUDDHI KHULEKO CHAINA.
why can't u all start thinking of starting a new party with new people, rather than waiting and waiting and waiting for Girija "to move over to make room for the younger generation ....."? NEPALI KANGRESS BAHIRA PANI TA LEADER PAIDA HUNA SAKCHAN NI, HOINA TA?????????
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| bipin |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 01:46 PM
GaribjantaJi:
Obviously you need to focus on other parites too, but the NC party is still very powewrful and because of their internal fights the country has landed here. So we must put them to a higher test, and Girija is the guy to do it. That's all. Whether you like it or not, Girija is a force within the NC. But, lately his self-serving conflicting statements are confusing the heck out of someone like me. He is losing it. His "threat" to go for a republican state is so unstatemanlike. He is the same guy who opposes the CIAA, is against the constituent assembly, and now it sounds like he is looking for a deal. Either you believe in it or you don't. I cannot tolerate an attitude like as-long- as-I-am-PM-everything-is-cool-else-everything-doomed. Why not instead put some effort in looking for some reforms to give some stable and long-run directions for the country, Girijababu. Start with losing the family grip on the NC party. You will be a hero.
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| garibjanata |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 02:56 PM
Bipinji,
I beg to agree to disagree with you regarding yr views on NC and its "stalwarts "like GIRIJA.First of all,Nepal has not landed in this mess b/c of "their internal fights " as u have stated above. What relation has" their internal fights"to do with the current predicament of the country? ARE LADUN, MARUN, WHO REALLY CARES.of course, if they were not so venal; not so morally bankrupt;they had not tolerated favoritism, nepotism,then Nepal would have been a better place to live in today.
And your other statement"His "threat" to go for a republican state is so unstatemanlike" IS SO ...... Bipinji, when was Girija regarded as a statesman that u are saying that his blabbering is "so unstatemanlike".This century ma we have had great Statesmen like GANDHi, NEHRU,CHURCHILL, THEODERE ROOSEVELT,MANDELA etc etc, now puhleese don't say that Girija belongs to the same level.......
Lastly, GIRIJA CAN NEVER BE A "HERO", SHOULD NEVER BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO BECOME A "HERO". Sau chuhe khake billi haj karne jaegi to kya wo pavitra ho jaegi?
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 02:59 PM
Kalankisthan,
Thanks for readig the out-of-context aatmakathaa.
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HG,
Feel free to interpret my words the way feel like. But to tell you the truth, when I said, "Following the HahooGuru tradition of including an aatma-britaanta in almost every posting", I meant to imply 49% satire and 51% credit [Sajha maa ek arko laai appreciate garne chalanle ali limit exceed garyo ki bhanera aba credit sangai ali ali satire pani haane bichaar gareko:)]. You did not see the satire part but that's fine.
So, you might want to change that "greatness" in your last paragraph to something else :). HahooGuru ko kuraa "haami le jamaanaa dekhi nai sundai aayi baksekaa chhau" [Gyanendra, 2002. You might want to read this part in his tone. Don't forget to "khumchhaos" your naak a little so that you look more like him when you say it :)]. Tehi bhayera, if Paschim is going for the President of FOSLA, may be I can take his chair as the President of HG Fan Club :)
Now, back to Raajnity....
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Bipin, You wrote:
"The only reason he is doing it is to create a "Grand Design" flavor to protect himself and his daughter in case if the CIAA decided to go after them."
I am glad to see a person, besides Trakal, who could get into the minds of public figures and tell the world what they have in mind. You might as well get into the mind of Gyanendra and say--"He will make Nepal a Singapore in 2 months." But here are my concerns regarding these prophecies:
First, I will believe you ONLY if you provide evidence. I agree he sees a grand design almost everywhere. I agree he, in a way, HAS been a dictator in his party. But isn't that a problem with his party members? What does a call for a republican state [actually, he said the congress MIGHT opt for a republican state; may be "Call" is not the right word here) have to do with CIAA action? How certain is it that if Girija's family members are involved in corruption, CIAA will not take action if there is a march for a republic? Do you think people, including the UML leadeship, are that dumb to get manipulated by Girija so easily--to forget about the corruption done by Girija's family members if there is a movement for a republic?
Second, we base our arguments on the past; not in the future. True, Girija's past is as corrupt as that of Gyanendra. If we can accept Gyanendra as someone who WILL do good without his past showing exactly the opposite ["Raastra Bachaau Abhiyaan???"], we might as well believe at least one thing Girija says. And for your information, this is the first time I am lauding Girija's action.
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| Taha Cha |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 05:29 PM
Here you go... Girija is testing waters when he sees he is turning tide against himself there comes clarification.
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KOL
NC clarification
Twenty-four hours after Nepali Congress president Girija Prasad Koirala reportedly threatened to push for a republic in the kingdom, party spokesman Arjun Narsingh K.C. said Friday there was a "conspiracy" and deliberate attempt to malign the party.
The party said Koirala's remarks were misrepresented. K.C., in a hurriedly issued statement, said the kingdom's oldest party was still committed to constitutional monarchy and multi-party democracy. The party statement said the party's attention has been drawn to the printed remarks of Koirala in Friday's newspaper editions.
All the newspapers reported Friday Koirala threatened his party could push for a republic as it said King Gyanendra acted unconstitutionally in dismissing prime minister Sher Bahadur Deuba on October 4 by assuming executive powers.
Maoists have called for elections for a constituent assembly to draft a new constitution as they push for a republic in the world's only Hindu state. nepalnews.com br Nov.29
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| bipin |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 08:03 PM
M.P. wrote:
" I agree he sees a grand design almost everywhere. I agree he, in a way, HAS been a dictator in his party."
You have answered your own question about Girija.
M.P. wrote:
"Bipin, You wrote:
"The only reason he is doing it is to create a "Grand Design" flavor to protect himself and his daughter in case if the CIAA decided to go after them."
I am glad to see a person, besides Trakal, who could get into the minds of public figures and tell the world what they have in mind. You might as well get into the mind of Gyanendra and say--"He will make Nepal a Singapore in 2 months." But here are my concerns regarding these prophecies: "
Well Mr. M.P., you have been doing a lot of mind reading yourself telling us what is right and what is wrong with Nepal, Gyanendra, Mao and everyone else all the time. So, why don't you spare me here, OK? After a lot of hard work, we all come to this Sjaha.com for some fun. Cut me some slack here.
M.P. wrote:
"How certain is it that if Girija's family members are involved in corruption."
Hmmm...
M.P. wrote:
"If we can accept Gyanendra as someone who WILL do good without his past showing exactly the opposite ["Raastra Bachaau Abhiyaan???"], we might as well believe at least one thing Girija says.
First, no one is saying Gyanendra is doing great. Actually, (reading his mind) he is trying to derail the achievement of the 1990 movement. He is the reason that there is no movement in the negotiation front. (But thene Girija was not doing much either. He was busy doing his Lauda kand.)
M.P. wrote:
"And for your information, this is the first time I am lauding Girija's action."
Let's not take ourselves so seriously!
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 08:54 PM
Bipin,
My apologizies if my posting spoilt your break. I DO take some things seriously and this could be one of them. One thing I would like to make it clear, however, is that I am not supporting Girija [as a whole]. But I do praise him for having guts to come forward and speak up against the King at a time when all the politicians are behaving like a rujeko biraalo.
You wrote: "You have answered your own question about Girija"
--No, I have not. Girjia sees grand design everywhere but one does not have to see a grand design to appeal for a republic state. I am supporting him for stating republic state as a possibility; not for seeing grand design everywhere.
You wrote: "Well Mr. M.P., you have been doing a lot of mind reading yourself telling us what is right and what is wrong with Nepal, Gyanendra, Mao and everyone else all the time. So, why don't you spare me here, OK? After a lot of hard work, we all come to this Sjaha.com for some fun. Cut me some slack here."
--What I write is MY opinion. If telling what I think is wrong is what you call "mind reading", I am helpless. My definition of "mind reading" is when you predict one's intentions. We do not know what intentions Girija has behind making this threat to the King. You can base your argument on Girija's history. I needed evidence. I was not claiming you were wrong.
You wrote: "How certain is it that if Girija's family members are involved in corruption."
Hmmm...
--Please do not pick random phrases and interpret them. There is a "then" part also. If I say, "If I die, please take me home", you can not pick up the first phrase--"If I die.." and say, "you are not dead." It is obvious. And I wanted to give Girija a benefit of the doubt. "Innocent until proven guilty"!
You wrote: "(But thene Girija was not doing much either. He was busy doing his Lauda kand.)"
--I repeat, I am praising Girjia for his guts. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. I never said Girija has done good for Nepal in the past. If I have, please let me know. I would like to take my words back.
You wrote: Let's not take ourselves so seriously!
--Surely, discussions should not deteriorate relationships. But this is not a fun-topic. So, a little harsh words every now and then are inevitable. If I have done too much, I apologize.
M.P.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 10:10 PM
MP:I meant to imply 49% satire and 51% credit [Sajha maa ek arko laai appreciate garne chalanle ali limit exceed garyo ki bhanera aba credit sangai ali ali satire pani haane bichaar gareko:)]. You did not see the satire part but that's fine.
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Maile ta aajkal kehi bolyo ki seriously liyo bhanchan. Ma jati Hahoo!ligan hundai gako chhu uti manche harule malai serious bhanthanchan yaar. Yo ta bhayena. Ma jhan frankly ohhh, kya ramailo bhanera maja naak furayeko ta bandhu haru ta kyaa serious hunchan ni. yo ta bhayena ni. Maile negatively / sarcastically sochnai chhodiye jab dekhi mero naam Hahoo!Guru rakhe ......... Maile ta 100% fun in 100% credit samjheko ho. Ho bhanya mero dila dekhi ramayeko chhu... Bholi k huncha kasalai k thaha, aaj yasto ramailo sanga badha chadha gareko belama (satirically nai bhe pani)... ramailo garne ho ni ta.... Asti, pani Kalanki sir le bhasad diyera kyaa bore: "No friend no foe " bhanera ..... Yo Sajhapur ma malai kina yasari serious manche bhanthanchan bhanya .... I think that there is at least one person who really understand me as real Hahoo!ligan and the person is NK ... because she knows me very well since I joined Sajhapur. .......
OK, I will tell you taht I am going to listen RICKEY MARTIN and his VCD......and dedicate that time positively to MP for his honesty ( 49% satire and 51% credit ). Have a beer and enjoy the part of his posting "49% satire and 51% credit" its just a proof of degree of my Hahoo!ism.
16barshe umerai mai pani Serious hundo hun ahile po Hahoo! bhayo ra. ha hai ahile po Hahoo! bhayo ra.....x 3 times swor kramasa sanopardai....
HG
http://www.geocities.com/hahooguru/
Hypotheses non fingo (I frame no hypotheses) -- Isaac Newton
[Quoted in the book: Statistics and Truth, CRR, p31]
Page 33 cites, Einstein:
Pure logical thinking can not yield us knowledge of the empirical world. All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends with it. Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty of reality.
(This last thread is explanation on why I put my Atma Britanta in my each postings).
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| bipin |
Posted
on 29-Nov-02 11:43 PM
M.P.:
Just because Girija talks about a Republican State does not erase the items on his rap sheet, which by the way you yourself took notice of, and suddenly make him a man of honor and guts. It's the opposite. It just shows how opportunist he is. He will say anything and everything to get back to the limelight. He did not hesitate to get rid of Deuba, and split the party. The Maoists (not that I support them) are demanding Republican State too, and I believe they are more sincere about it than Girijababu. That was my point. Girija reprimanded Narahari (I believe) when the latter became somewhat critical of KG. He yelled at these fellas for demanding the constituenty assembly. Now, he wants a republican state. Give me a break. He reminds me of Al Gore who changed his suit a few times to convince people for their votes. I want to know how big the crowd was when he spoke of this Grand Design part II.
Not that it matters what I think, but I do want to see a new thinking in the NC party and
a new crop of leaders. I am sick and tired of these grand design talks. Give something new, exciting, and fresh.
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