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   The following is a "thinking out loud" p 12-Dec-02 Nepali Kanchi
     Nepali Kanchi...let me guess...you're a 12-Dec-02 Vision
       Nepali Republican of India? 13-Dec-02 PREMpujari
         Hey Vision: NepaliKanchi just passed the 13-Dec-02 HariyoNepal
           HAHAHAHA ..Hariyo...that's hysterical... 13-Dec-02 Vision
             Nakalikanchi, very, very interesting poi 13-Dec-02 VillageVoice
               Nakalikanchi, very, very interesting poi 13-Dec-02 VillageVoice
                 Nepali Kanchi, sorry for getting your na 13-Dec-02 VillageVoice
                   VV.... "Whether we like GPK, Mkune, O 13-Dec-02 dirk
                     12 yrs back we walked the roads for demo 13-Dec-02 kreep
                       The question still stands In the mind 13-Dec-02 Jhilke Kyailan
                         Kreep, well said..all we need now is pea 13-Dec-02 Vision
                           “Whether we like GPK, Mkune, Oli, 13-Dec-02 czar
                             Between the occupants of Narayanhity and 14-Dec-02 VillageVoice


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Nepali Kanchi Posted on 12-Dec-02 10:13 PM

The following is a "thinking out loud" piece, of a Nepali obsessed with finding an outcome to restore peace and democracy in her country:

I think we many of us agree that the problem of our country rests in the location of its authority. Or more specifically, that the authority is in one person.

The fundamental dilemma of Nepal is that the King has arbitrary and capricious power. He has regressed the evolution of democracy in Nepal and violates the spirit of our constitution. The time is now for our people in Nepal and abroad and the international community to end the supreme and unchecked authority of the King.

Admitidly, the people of our country donthave the political mobilization as citizens of the Western democracies. However, I guess, even if they did, it is doubtful that they would have collective strenght to remove the Royal system.

10 years ago, Nepalis were able to reform the political system into a contituitinal monarchy. But the envioronment during that time wa remarkably different.The most important being , the open mindedness of King Birendra.

It is doubtful to say the least that Gyanendra would ever relinquish the power that he is now upsurping. And more, importantly, we cannot give him that opportunity.

If our King will voluntarily not listen to us, we must force him to. The Nepali people of our country must force him to!!

Convincing our Kingto reprovide the democratic characteristics in our country is no easy matter.

A few things that may work are:

--- Try General Strike - but he may still hold power by the fists of the milatary.

--- Must then have backing of international community.

---How to get international community's attention?

---Make our problem thier problem.

---Make our instability problamatic to thier security.

---Cross the border into India in large numbers, therefore , create havoc on thier immigration services.

---Say we cannot return to our country until we feel safe and our demands are met.

---Try to cross over to China if you can bear with the Himalayas.

---India has political weight in UN's General Assembly. China is a permanent member of the security council!

---General Assembly has power and can reccomend this to the UN Security Council and start the mission in Nepal!

---In due time, we are going to be the peaceful and stable Nepal once again!!
Vision Posted on 12-Dec-02 11:49 PM

Nepali Kanchi...let me guess...you're a 6th grader...right?

Get real please!
PREMpujari Posted on 13-Dec-02 12:28 AM

Nepali Republican of India?
HariyoNepal Posted on 13-Dec-02 08:46 AM

Hey Vision: NepaliKanchi just passed the final exam last week. She is in 7th now.
Vision Posted on 13-Dec-02 09:11 AM

HAHAHAHA ..Hariyo...that's hysterical...
VillageVoice Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:06 AM

Nakalikanchi, very, very interesting points.

And let me add so long as political parties keep away from the new government, the Maoists are likely to keep away from peace talks. Again, the question of the legitimacy of the outcome of the talks. As of the current governance.

The King's Cabinet has not quite been able to give political momentum expected of it. And I see the recent turn of events inexorably moving toward the Maoist demand for the constituent assembly.

One of King's most trusted friends--Prabhakar SJB Rana, former CEO of Soaltee Group--has recently go on record to say, "The possibility to change the PM is there...if political parties decide to come aboard the cabinet (for his exact words see Nepal magazine)." A desperate salvo? A belated mea culpa that if Oct. 4 was perhaps a mistake, the failure to include political parties in the subsquent expansion was a catastrophe?

Whether we like GPK, Mkune, Oli, (mind you, I am no fan of theirs) they are the best we have, and they were elected by the people, and hence the legitimate rulers. And their support will be of vital importance, if the proposed talks against the Maoists are to succeed--even to bring to keep to the negotiating table, and to keep them there.

With all their shortcomings, the parties are the ones who are capable of speaking the people's language, their parties are the ones that have the capacity to mobilize the mass--far, far beyond Kathmandu, Internet and newspapers. They have the capacity to make the people see the goods that can be delivered by peace.

Bhesh Bahadur Thapa, Chiran Samsher, and the likes are very, very qualified arm-chair experts, but they don't have the language of the mass--and can't mobilize the popular opinion.

While I can see a benevolent king looking good for a while, in the long run who will take his message of benevolence to the people?
VillageVoice Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:09 AM

Nakalikanchi, very, very interesting points.

And let me add so long as political parties keep away from the new government, the Maoists are likely to keep away from peace talks. Again, the question of the legitimacy of the outcome of the talks. As of the current governance.

The King's Cabinet has not quite been able to give political momentum expected of it. And I see the recent turn of events inexorably moving toward the Maoist demand for the constituent assembly.

One of King's most trusted friends--Prabhakar SJB Rana, former CEO of Soaltee Group--has recently go on record to say, "The possibility to change the PM is there...if political parties decide to come aboard the cabinet (for his exact words see Nepal magazine)." A desperate salvo? A belated mea culpa that if Oct. 4 was perhaps a mistake, the failure to include political parties in the subsquent expansion was a catastrophe?

Whether we like GPK, Mkune, Oli, (mind you, I am no fan of theirs) they are the best we have, and they were elected by the people, and hence the legitimate rulers. And their support will be of vital importance, if the proposed talks against the Maoists are to succeed--even to bring to keep to the negotiating table, and to keep them there.

With all their shortcomings, the parties are the ones who are capable of speaking the people's language, their parties are the ones that have the capacity to mobilize the mass--far, far beyond Kathmandu, Internet and newspapers. They have the capacity to make the people see the goods that can be delivered by peace.

Bhesh Bahadur Thapa, Chiran Samsher, and the likes are very, very qualified arm-chair experts, but they don't have the language of the mass--and can't mobilize the popular opinion.

While I can see a benevolent king looking good for a while, in the long run who will take his message of benevolence to the people?
VillageVoice Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:13 AM

Nepali Kanchi, sorry for getting your name wrong. To all, sorry about the double postings.
dirk Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:21 AM

VV....

"Whether we like GPK, Mkune, Oli, (mind you, I am no fan of theirs) they are the best we have...."

really?....then, we are damned! Like they say.. Sati le sarape ko desh!!!

I guess the parties were speaking people's language thus far...ke kya ho?
kreep Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:27 AM

12 yrs back we walked the roads for democracy

Now we just want peace and stability. Care less for other things.
Jhilke Kyailan Posted on 13-Dec-02 10:51 AM

The question still stands

In the minds of the feudals are we still the peseants, for whom this life is only servitude to them and their whims, or, are we equal partners in the prosperity and development of our country??????

What will happen in Nepal largely depends on what King G and his feudal cronies think the answer is.......If they consider us partners, an understanding will delevlop and the relationship between the people and the the monarch will strengthen and in due course the Maobadis will be made to see that they must come overground and fight the good fight through the electorate.....On the other hand, if they still consider us their servants well, the future is too dire to contemplate.......One day sooner or later, depending upon when the masses can channelise their aspirations through one dynamic leader, like BP, or a dynamic party (a new one, none of todays parties will do), the hurricane of DRASTIC change will come.......

So my dear bahusaabs....the ball is in your court.
Vision Posted on 13-Dec-02 12:23 PM

Kreep, well said..all we need now is peace and stability. His majesty the king has assumed the responsibility and has made a gutsy effort to restore just that after 12 years of chaos. And, we the people, still can't unite and support his decision, it speaks greately of our intelligence. not of our love of democracy....
czar Posted on 13-Dec-02 09:39 PM

“Whether we like GPK, Mkune, Oli, (mind you, I am no fan of theirs) they are the best we have, and they were elected by the people, and hence the legitimate rulers.”

Just how did this lot win elections? Money and muscle provided by criminals both past and present, including all ex-Pancheys they could welcome to their fold. Politics makes for strange bedfellows. They proved it.

Shamelessly used every dirty trick in the book, directly or by proxy. There was blatant misuse of the state machinery to promote family interests and party politics. The outright bribery of parliamentarians of every stripe. Is this what confers legitimacy?

Their only interest is to cling to power at all costs and plunder state coffers. Divvy up the nation to enrich themselves. Like engorged and bloated vultures unable to swallow more yet still squabbling for the few remaining scraps. Between the occupants of Narayanhity and these scum, they killed every vestige of life and hope the nation ever had.

I say, sweep the lot of them out.
VillageVoice Posted on 14-Dec-02 10:29 AM

Between the occupants of Narayanhity and these scum, they killed every vestige of life and hope the nation ever had. I say, sweep the lot of them out.

Well said. But more importantly, what next then?