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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 16-Dec-02 02:53 PM
One for the boys/men/kids/donkeys/monkeys/clowns :-) or whatever you call yourselves…. COOL (TO BE) MALE FACTS: Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. A 5-day vacation requires only one suitcase. Dry cleaners and hair dressers don't rob you blind. You can go to the bathroom without a support group. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness. If someone forgets to invite you to something, he or she can still be your friend. You can quietly enjoy a car ride from the passenger's seat. Three pairs of shoes are more than enough. You don't have to clean your apartment if the meter reader is coming. Car mechanics tell you the truth. Grey hair and wrinkles only add character. You can drop by to see a friend without having to bring a little gift. If another guy shows up at a party in the same outfit, you just might become lifelong friends. You are not expected to know the names of more than five colours. You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to see wrinkles on your clothes. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. One wallet and one pair of shoes, one colour, all seasons. You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. Christmas shopping can be accomplished for 25 relatives, on December 24th, in 45 minutes.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 17-Dec-02 11:21 AM
Funny but True Bramhanda ji!!!! He!he! he!
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| surya |
Posted
on 17-Dec-02 11:27 AM
Hey that might be true for men, but it is not necessarily false for women either!! I know a lot of men who are higher maintanence than most women I know and enjoy hanging out with. I also know a lot of women who do the princess routine on a routine basis:) I guess its all in jest!
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| OneGirl_123 |
Posted
on 17-Dec-02 02:20 PM
LOL. its funny thing about it,.....its the TRUTH! :)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 17-Dec-02 09:05 PM
Surya, I agree that there are some very fastidious and meticulous men that roam the planet. Yet, there are also women, who belong and belong in this dept., too--probably more of them are in this category. As per Sitaraji and One Girl ,this is a funny truth about the lads. How about one cool facts for the Dudettes??
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 19-Dec-02 02:52 PM
Ok one sweeping statement for the dudettes! When women bond... they bond for life!!! Ke ke ho girl friends???????
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 19-Dec-02 02:57 PM
No wonder James Bond is so popular among women...
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 19-Dec-02 03:23 PM
or is it, When women go blond, they "blond" for life ;) eheh! oys
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| vivid |
Posted
on 19-Dec-02 03:45 PM
Woman is the reason behind creation and destruction, that is for sure. Ki kaso Sitara ji?
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| ruck |
Posted
on 19-Dec-02 04:22 PM
Very Very True Universe Ji... kaha bata eti buddhi ayeko hola kunni????
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 09:49 AM
Vivid ji Women are the reasons for loves and wars; loves and tragedies; wars and peace; peace and destruction; destruction and healing! The spirit of woman IS!!!! :) Oys ji.... When women go blond do they go blond for life??? :S Here a fact: when men go bald, they go bald for life! :P Ki kaso Poonte? ;)
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| vivid |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 10:03 AM
Yups! I agree to the fullest Sitara ji. But,Oys ji, I think when women go blond, they only go blond till they want to. Then back again to the original. Ki kaso??
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| surya |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 10:10 AM
Sitara: Woman is "the reason for loves and wars; loves and tragedies; wars and peace; peace and destruction; destruction and healing!" Such hubris!! Plus, it is like giving fodder to those who want to blame/credit women for all that goes on in the world.... be it the fall of man, fall of troy, Shiva's rampage through the world, or whatever else. As for “bonding” (… don’t know about blonding personally, but looking at Norma Jean that seems to be the case) I guess we are talking about with other women, right?! I have to say again, there is no generalizing. I’d love to believe in the solidarity among women, but have found that is a myth!! Sorry to be such a pooper! (La Poonte: you gotta take that lying down!!?)
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| surya |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 10:13 AM
i meant (La Poonte: you GONNA take that lying down!!?) :)
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| vivid |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 10:23 AM
For the bonding, may be the rules of attraction and repulsion applies also to humans. But it is also true that when women bond(whoever), they bond for life. Surya ji, It is not only a myth. Believe it and you will see the single shadow of a colourful rainbow within the bond. Regards!
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 11:15 AM
Sitz, Ever heard of Men's Hair Club? "I am not only the president of the club--I am also a client." Excuse me, would you have a cuple of hairs to spare? But, of course... eheheh...proud to be a baldie re kya ajha... I over heard someone say that bald men are sexy ;) ...another said it's a sign of wisdom ...yet another claimed that it's a solar panel for sex energy generator. rati ke garne hola? :(
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| surya |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 01:07 PM
Ehehe eheh!! Good one Poonte!!
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| PREMPUJARI |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 01:33 PM
Keta manche bald bho bhane ta Sex symbol ni. UU tyo basketball player haru le yettikai kapal bhai bhai kana pani retyachan ra? Sexy huna lai? Baru keti manche ko talu bald bho bhane chai khattam chai hai!!! Taruni haru sexy dekhinnan, bald huda. (Not everyone is Sined o' conner) re kyaa... ajha ulle ni baal paalya cha achel!!!
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| dirk |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 01:45 PM
The Bald and the Beautiful.........I'm too sexy for my hair ho ke kya ho, Poonte?
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 02:18 PM
The bald and the bold. The bold and the beautiful. The bold and the sexy? Considering as Poonte it, to be bald is to be sexy. To be bold to admit the sex appealfor the lack of hair is its charm. To be the sex geneartor for the day is the beauty about it, and for the [sex]generator to turn off is the coolness of it --actually icy Men don't need no binding it seems especially with hair to be wisexy (Wise & Sexy) kya :]]]]]]))))) --as long as the generator is on. Sitara Ji mentioned that when women bond they bond for life. What happens if a man comes in between to break this bind??? :-)
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| OneGirl_123 |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 02:28 PM
Poonte...bald guys are sexy....but NOT them old bald ones.......we talking about BALD VAN DIESEL sexy :)
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| PremPujari |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 02:46 PM
Poonte dai is sexy ni. Keti haru poo dai ko agaadi pachaadi Lampasaaar parya dekhyo bhane, Dekhne maanche pani Behosh huncha. He is as same as Van Diesel. The only thing is that, he is more like "Dalle Tyampoo Diesel", Tara uha ko "ISHFURTI" heryo bhane ta SUV le ni bhyaaudaina... Ki kaso Poo dai? Ajha, Dai ko jyaan ma alikati Diesel parnu parcha, Dai tayaar, sexy walk dina... ki kaso?? Yo bhara bhure haru lai ke thaha... Re kyaa ajhaa laast ma!!! Yo dai, tyo astiiiiiiiiina guchcha tole ma bardali bata taruni khasyaa guff sunaidinu ta!!!
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 05:04 PM
PP, Ho Poonte has to show his flair. Asti tyo Masangali ko Momo Khana janda tyo Sahune ko chori ta fainta khayera hospital lana parya, hoina ra. Pheri timi chai Xmas eve ma pheri harri ko son auncha bhanra carlsberg udaundai thiyou. Kasto tension ni.... Ruck, It seems that Mr Universe is nothing compared to Poonte here. Wisdom and sex appeal all seems to have gone on his favor owing to his hair style.:-) Tyesaile ,just limited to these statements about the lads. Any from your end for the girls like Sitara's ?? :))
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| ruck |
Posted
on 20-Dec-02 05:17 PM
Poonte, interested in joining the "bald pride" :-)))
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 21-Dec-02 07:56 AM
Bramhanda ji... A man should not come between the gals' friendships in the first place!!! NO comparision... one is romantic love and the other is friendship! The moment you start mixing the two.... there is Trouble! You might end up losing both! My girl friends and I have a pact: "our friendship will last many lovers!" :)
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| ebony_firefly |
Posted
on 21-Dec-02 09:39 AM
when ladies bond men get conned when blonde's conn its black to bald,bald to blonde;) blac_
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 21-Dec-02 10:31 AM
yo firefly broooo....good one! kata ho aajkaal???????? kya maya mardeko ki BIHE SIHE Garera matrai aaune plan cha?? nways, keep in touch! oys
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| ebony_firefly |
Posted
on 23-Dec-02 09:59 AM
ty ty oys bro.. biheey ta haine bro! i am not yet done with the chilly winter and slowly improving political weather of nepal.. and also some warmth with frens by fireplace.. by the way , 25000 people turned up in 1974 concert in ktm..what a record!~i know its a treat for you..hmmmmmm!~ just a bit busy bro..will be in touch when i will be a bit free. blac_
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 23-Dec-02 10:39 AM
ebony ji Conned are those men, who hope to con, when ladies bond, men should feel empowered, not shunned! :)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 23-Dec-02 09:29 PM
When ladies bond against men then men should fear that they could be hit by words or actions stronger than a spear from someone that they considered dear; when ladies bond for their own good then no one is to be shunned or stunned and men should saunter about frivolously for it's for their own good to do so nonchalantly Friendships that lasts many lovers could be still NOT eternal :-) But, one thing is that a tripatirate, or a triangular relationship (or something of that order), could be very much like a bad concoction of drinks, that can only lead to a huge explosion. :-)
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| vivid |
Posted
on 24-Dec-02 04:38 AM
Heard somewhere, A single lady can do nothing But A group of ladies can do everything! So, When ladies bond, The rest are done. :P
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 24-Dec-02 09:37 AM
My, oh my! Yes, when ladies bond, they are the almighty--i.e. when they bond with MEN! :P
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| vivid |
Posted
on 24-Dec-02 09:52 AM
Poonte jui, Hajur bald tyesai bha hoina ni, ki kaso? :ppppppppp
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 24-Dec-02 09:57 AM
Nothings for eternity, not bonding neither balding; When bonding's got the power, ye poonte hajur, why not bond with some hair??? I have enough to give you ek pau hajur! or dui pau if you are nice! ;)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 26-Dec-02 12:35 PM
Poonte all excited after getting a bonding with 3 pau of hair. Hmmm!!!! Then he ponders if hair bonding would turn his baldness into obilivion :-). Ok, granted that one gets the bond --with Sitara's hair and all--but then , realizes his claim to all universal wisdom, his chutzpah, his sex appeal, and the generator (espeically for these cold winters) will also leave him behind with this attachment... Hey, but that's life , one hast to lose something to gain something just like Newton's laws, or the law of thermodynamics, or be it the laws of economics, and above all life as it is!!!! :--))))))))). He has ,therefore, got himself, to a very trying situation. It'll be his New Year's resolution to either stick to blading , or bonding with hair. Perhaps, we've got to hold on it for some time then. :)))).
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 26-Dec-02 12:47 PM
T'is the hair of the wise! (me me me!!!!!!!!!! this, seems to be contagious...esp. from Hahooguru!!!.....Swear never had the "me, my. ma, mero, Ahem, Ahum," Syndrome until HHG made a reentry from his intellecual silence, maun dharan!!!!). But I guess the intellectual silence has to be balanced by "intellectual-esque din"! As Freud says what was suppressed manifests from the back door ....re! and now Sajhaites are paying the price of HHG's dui mahine intellectual silence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bramhanda ji, So let us not split hairs about the wisdon of my hair ....or it might be a hairy deal for both poonte and his bald highness!!!! :P According to the laws of Economics....and optimum marginal utility!! Even Baldness has its moments of wisdom lapse! So poontzz before you hit that invisible margin, you might consider bonding with the hairy wise! :P
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 26-Dec-02 01:35 PM
To bond (with SITZ diju's hair) or not to bond, that is the question! Imagine nai garna nasakina dilemma. Nakhaun bhane din bhari ko sikar, khau bhane kanchha bau ko anuhar bhane jastai...BOND GARUM, BRAHMANDA JYU LE BHANE JHAI SAB THOK GUMINE...BOND NAGARUM SITZ DIJJU KO ANUHAR! Hey, parameshwara! Malai yo bidambana bata mukta garaideu! Aek-sai aath wata laddu chadaune chhu, pravu! Ganapati maharaj! Mero kripa gara!!!! Mukti paye!!!!!!!!! Dhanya ho pravu ko! Ganapati maharaj ki...jai!!!!!!!!!!! I'd rather be bald and sexy than bond with SITZ dijju's hair and look like jagalte guru of Pashupati :P But then again, I've heard that bonding with her hair would make one feel even sexier re ;) Kyaaaaaaaaa....pravu!!!!! Feri arko dilemma!!!!!!!! :(
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| najar |
Posted
on 26-Dec-02 01:43 PM
Poonte dai, darshan, ahem ahem :) Trikal Maharaj lai consult garibaksyos na dilemma resolve garna :)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 26-Dec-02 01:48 PM
Hmm, the mystery of hairy wisdom that has left us in a nebulous stage has come to light with the masterful skills of Sitara, the meticulous and sharp observations of the economic and psychological researcher (of Wisehair Do Bongo Ongo Transplant Inc.), recently turned detective. Not only has she adroitly displayed her talents as a ultimate proponent of such -transplant and contagious--works of the mind and the head that cries for the self, but has demonstrated that the real feelings and emotions --of what one needs-- ultimately either come and haunt one in their dreams, or posit themselves in reality in terms of your very thoughts that one articulates !!!!!!!! :-))))))))))))) Having already proven her wisdom, the only thing that remains for us is not to split our hair --that some are lacking while others are not--, but to find out the inherent wisdom in the hair or lack of it , from hereby called HWIQ (Hair Wisdom & Intelligence Quotient), to emperically investigate and measure the actual HWIQ in those with hair and those without it of the baldom .:----))))))))))))))))))))))))))))). After having substantiated the HWIQ, then the matters of the economic come into play. As there is a law of diminishing returns (in this respect for the hair), the opitmal in suplply and demand in this law, one has to really wonder whether the actual transplant becomes an investment that has future returns --whether it appreciates the HWIQ or depreciate it--and ,if this ultimately returns are postive and negative. :-):-)...
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 01:39 AM
Talking about splitting the hairs...I wish they came up with the technology to split each hair many times over...so that underprivileged men like me would possibly have thicker, fuller hair without having to rely on brassy ladies who boast of hair abundance :P Tara kassam hola, SITZ dijju ko jatti kapal bhaye ta ma ta tesma jhundera marthen kyare...
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 06:27 AM
Yo poor fellow, ke hi kaam nabhayera computer kholeko. ani sajha kunai new posting nadekhe pachi, budho lion jastai badar ko rukh muni bashi tyahi badar bhe pani huncha bhane jastai jun thread bhe pani huncha ni ta bhanera yaso click gareko ta HHG dekhyo, ani ke rahechha bhaneko ta ... blah blah blah.... kehi bujhe bhe mardinu. Yo pakhe guru le tyo paragraph ko artha na bartha govinda gai bhayo............. Hg bhanne jantu aru bhe ta yo posting lekhne wala pani thiyena padhne pani thiyean ta ra paryo afnai naam ma dedicate gareko, aba nabujhe shi k garne............ Lekhnu bhako pani guruma le.......... lau na ho kohi chhau bhane ali simple bhasama bujhaideu......... Sitara: T'is the hair of the wise! (me me me!!!!!!!!!! this, seems to be contagious...esp. from Hahooguru!!!.....Swear never had the "me, my. ma, mero, Ahem, Ahum," Syndrome until HHG made a reentry from his intellecual silence, maun dharan!!!!). But I guess the intellectual silence has to be balanced by "intellectual-esque din"! As Freud says what was suppressed manifests from the back door ....re! and now Sajhaites are paying the price of HHG's dui mahine intellectual silence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, Oohi!ashu once wrote a nice sentence on Saitara: "Dare demo Hazur! syndrome, swear that never appeared before Sitara appeared here in Sajhapur". LL66HG
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 06:41 AM
What I know is that? There is nothing wrong on writing "mapai". Its not harmful to others. Only hard working peoples have the guts to write "ma my mapai mero ", and those who own nothing, will claim on "timro tapaiko usko unko ...."...... Lau ja bhandiye. Hope NK will not read it. NK ji told last time that HG like jori khojne kaam. I love it, especially in Sajhapur, because you will never meet them. I only one thing is that don't harm those who have never harmed you. Never leave those, who are something worth and chase you or try to put you in drain. Thats the way of life in materialistic world. But, don't care those who are pennyless. Lets fight. Kohi tagat wall chha bhane aaao. Well, I very well know when to close the door from inside and leave the house from back door and let your enemy burn the house, and feel one minute proud that he killed you: burnt you down to ash.... Make him/her un happy when s/he spot you again somewhere .... hehehehehhe.... I hope I never harmed first to anyone innocent person, and if so, please let me know, I will sincerely apologize. LL66HG "Remember I, My and mine or mero does not include others, and does not touch on others personal matters. Do use ma mapai or mero ..., that a sign of development".... hehehehheeh... This is 3rd law of HG. Of course, ma mapai, mero ... has lowest entropy and therefore, will be tried to move to highest entropy ma , mapai mero haters..... fighto fighto...
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 12:40 PM
OK L666HG, I hear your comments. Of course, HG there is no problem to write mapai ,tapai, bapai, afnai Rajhai, or any other claim to fame! Granted that one can write mapai, but one can also challenge that sense of the almighty, and the illusion of the mapainess in this world reciprocally. This is the very human nature that makes the world more diverse and interesting, hoina ta? But, if that claim to fame was granted by others than was challenged, it would be more valid. Well that's what I beleive. Just like one can claim to have done something, one can challenge it an equal degree. I want to counter your arguments. Your argument of only the mapai ones are the hardworking ones and the ones who own nothing always say mapai is very condescending claiming what you say is right. I beg to differ. Why do you think only hardworking people can mapai? Why can't those who do no work , but want to boast of success mapai? The rich who are lazy but proud mapai ,too ,don't they?? Also people who want attention mapai because they feel that no one listens to them and they want to be heard. Some people that have done a lot in their lives, and are brillant as well as hardworking don't need to mapai as others would already be aware of the results of their actions and the ensuing success. Actions speak louder than words, so they don't need to be arrogant at all, and they might be the most modest person in the world. And similary, one can not have done much in the world, and still want to boast about what they've done, who they know, what they study ,and all that, just to claim the very identity they want for themselves. Having said that, it is equally possible that one can be very brillant, hardworking, and successful materialistically, and want to also boast of their attributes. They talk the talk and walk it,too!! :-) So, there you go, you could have any type who claims of the "me factor" .:-). Positive action results in everything moving from a state of chaos to a higher order. And too much energy being wasted of course results in moving to higher degrees of entropy, more disorder, and breaking free. One is free to choose and challenge all these existences.:-)
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| vivid |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 01:05 PM
Bramhanda aka Protean ji, Nice observations brilliantly spread upon the materialistic sheet. :)
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 02:46 PM
Brah.:(1)Some people that have done a lot in their lives, and are brillant as well as hardworking don't need to mapai as others would already be aware of the results of their actions and the ensuing success. >>> No, it is not true. Just working hard and without any claim that you worked or that was your work, especially, while working a team; and if your team leader is not a really very very nice person, then, you will always turn out to be equal to a ghost writer. Well, theoretically, you are right, but, practically, you should remember "bokne ko pitho bikcha". In this chaotic world, you must advertise what you worked and what was your share, if you think "action speaks", and you will be cornered and ask to work there... will never let you overtake or prize on what you do. Your team leader or a cunning fellow team member will exploit your weakness of "action speaks" .... DON'T RELY ON "ACTION ALONE SPEAKS ". Remember that "ALONE" at the end of action. If you don't do MAPAI after action, you deserve to be working and working in a corner, no one will let you get out of the closet. When you work, you should claim, this is what I know. You must MAPAI, in this competitive world where all team leaders are trying to exploit in the exchange another lucrative deal, e.g. money. Well, in materialistic world "money" is the ultimate deal, but, in order to cash more on your self, advertisement and way of advertisement i.e. mapai is very very essential. If you still think "ACTION" speaks, well, take it for your self, but, don't give that incomplete advice to me. I work and know very well that MAPAI is very essential.... that is why I advertise my works in many events .... Others did this, they lacked this, and I did it. I won'T say, what I am going to do, because in competitive world, what you are going to do is very very important to survive in this competitive world, unless you are doing the regular job of 1 + 1 = 2, than, what you do is what you get: the bottom line survival kit: dui chhak tarne salary... a cornered citizen. >>>> Actions speak louder than words, so they don't need to be arrogant at all, and they might be the most modest person in the world. Probably, we are in two different world. Well, for many people the world looks one, but, for me this world is made of several if not infinite world of world. Locally Ordered inside a globally disordered world. ..... At the end of this posting, I feel whether we should communicate any more, I mean whether we can sail in the same boat. My two line suggestion to those students who have no working experience, don't rely on "ACTION is enough" formula. If you rely on it, you will be cornered and asked to work, work and work, and at the end of the day, you have no proof that you worked. That is why there is Copyright (C) HahooGuru, Inc. like statements, and if you fail to claim it and some claims, do you have any proof to validate that you did it? If not, you will find many bill gates and Macintosh will be begging with Bill Gate: alikati choudai. Mapai after action is another important action that should be automatic. HG PS: If you don't like MAPAI theory of HG, no problem you don't need to read it. MAPAI is better than buttering khokro "HAZUR" . The days "aap pahale ham aap ke piche" gone, now it is the time for first "MAPAI" and "Hazur" at the end. Mapai aghi gaihalchu, hazur bistari aaudai garnu hola, kinaki mero next train is waiting for me. First is mapai, then, pachhaaaaaaaaaaaadi Hazur pani.
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| vivid |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 03:30 PM
HG ji, Bato khulla cha, tara hos garnu hola hai, hatar gare ladincha bistarai gaye awasyai pugincha. :)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 03:53 PM
LL: As you aptly claim to know the world you live, I'm not also going to take your self-assered incomplete advice as I don't share your points of view because I happen to hold a different one, and live in a different world. I do work and know how important action is more than just pure rhetoric. And sometimes being silent on some things --especially in this corporate jungle--saves your day. Of course, when I wear a different hat out of work and in School, I believe and work with real idealism sometimes thinking that I know things, and these are the way the world should operarte. But, that doesn't help in this corporate world, and I know what exactly to do at the right time. But, the world is not just corporate world. Look, at all those people who made some bucks while destroying people's life long savings. They will and have got caught--they won't just go and be able to live in La La land just as they thought they could. They made the fast buck with their mapainess and all that, but they also failed. Look at the wonderful leaders of our country. They talked and talked and were the first to extol their own virtue and that of their parties. Look at them now. Do their claims of democracy and al thatl bring them the power? Nope! Not at least for some time. Where they failed is in performing the action of what they claimed they wanted to do. Halla Badi Bhayo, kaam Kaam. Kaag karaundai Jancha Pina Sukdai Jancha!! Case in point: It is better to be smart about when to act, rather than just claim that all the actions are yours and they're right. Sometimes maundharanam or not elaborating on the truth helps one's cause or lives. Mahabharata: Asawthama and Yudhisthir. Even for the way Bill Gates got ahead was he smarty and secretly got IBM business while the Mapai PHD friend of Gates from Berkely , who was then supposed to be meeting these IBM folks, thought everyone will wait for him ,and went of flying. There, his mapainess got him lopsided. I agree that one has to make a point about what one does. Part of social networking and also the world where it is not only what you know, but who you know. But, for all this , one has to be able to get support and then lead. To be a leader, it is good to give one Tapai and receive thousand hazurs back, and, therefore, be able to work in a team to go ahead, rather than just claim to the almighty ,and lose it all in the end. Some may want to do it, while some don't . That's why people are different. That' s why I gave some types of getting fame and doing work. Point 3 supports the view of that you can claim and move ahead: Having said that, it is equally possible that one can be very brillant, hardworking, and successful materialistically, and want to also boast of their attributes. They talk the talk and walk it,too!! :-) But, each is right in their own way. The idea is be able to learn from each other and grow. One can use the best strategy that can get one ahead in life! Such are my perspectives and I do differ from yours. PS. I don't subscribe with your theory of Mapai, and neither do I want to abide my the Hajurs. I choose the best strategy that needs to be employed at different times just like in the game of Chess. This is the secret that only I hold.
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 04:21 PM
Vivid Ji, Thanks for the comments. Was sharing my views.
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 05:55 PM
Vivid: Bato khulla cha... Do you really think so? Mata ta bato ma lampasar pareka abarodhak haru matra dekhchu. Red tapes to kaam kehi nagarne tara arule gareko kaam lai afno bhanera dhol pitne haru matra mero bato chekeko dekchu ..... Congratulation to you for having your road open... I am so unfortunate that I could not be on your nice road. I am wondering where the road is going? Why it is so much khulla? Malai pani batai dinus na tyo khulla road katai mero lagi kaam lagcha ki? Traffic jam le barbad paryo hou malai ta. Ajha yo new years holiday le ta jhan 70km long jam parch, you tomei express way ma, I had a very bad experience of driving car in 450km long expressway (its called toll expressway) and it took 14hours to reach to tokyo. I feel my daily life is also jammed in similar traffic jam, I am only worried that I might get old before the traffic jam get cleared. God bless me. Bujhne lai yo kura gahiro chha nabujhne lai yo kura ghar pari pahiro chha. Have fun and happy new years. HG
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 06:38 PM
Brah, ji, we are in differnt world. I am not in corporate world, where money speaks. I am not interested in what happens in corporate world. I am sorry. Well, there are two types of MAPAI, one who really does not have anything, but, speaks HAZUR with his/bosses and cheats his colleagues in lateral direction, and supresses those who are under him. The other one who works and does want Copyright (C) on the things he does. Copyright here means that if he worked, it should be acknowledged as he worked, not others should claim the other way round. So, what I understand is: MAPAI is not bad, the only thing MAPAI needs to have is : it should be truely based on truth, not on lie. The MAPAI people should not afraid of peer reviews. In that sense, MAPAI is appeal in competitive world to move forward. And, those who like to object should object on the truthness and falseness in the MAPAI, and if there is some lie, thats the start of PATAN, especially when you are not a penny ess person. The world is give and take. So, let define my Hahoo!Give&Take Formula: TAKE (=RENT) = GIVE - public TAX and social security fund (social responsibilities) so, take = (salary+ social status) = f[ability to perform (specialized job + regular job )] where regular job=a job any one XYZ can do, e.g. clerks job, bhada majne job or any xyz graduate can do. This job does not MAPAI, anyone does it, s/he will be called a Big Mouth. specialized job = action * mapai take = salary related to [action * mapai] + salary related to regular job [=action * tapai] In corporate world, you will be sacked if you don't Specialized ability, ie. first part, I mean when their share market lower, they sack those who don't specialized ability. Thus, those who fall under REGULAR job, without specialized ability will be fired when corporation requires restructuring.... So, you should keep on doing work and informing your boss: MAPAI, that corporation needs you. But, in public organizations: salary = give on regular job ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ promotion (usually) = degree of (action x mapai) + degree of (action * hazur) Because public orgnizations have social responsibility they can not just fire someone whether s/he is productive or not, there fore, promotion is important social factor among those who work in public organizations. What happened to Nepali too much talking leaders. they were empty in action, and good in talk. So, if action = 0 in those equations, they deserve only the bottomline salary. So, our political leaders are liked by only their blind supporters, and they have no specialized (action x mapai) factor, thus were trashed by King G. What lacks in Nepal? The ACTION x Mapai factor. We were taught to consider hamro ba, hamri ama, hamro ghar, hamro desh, hamro gau..... Everything is "HAMRO", what is mine? mero? We were never taught to pose as MA MERO MAPAI. We always discourage MAPAI ness. Even at home a kid is not allowed to say something is MINE, his or her parents teach "yo ta sabko"..... Thus, the kid develops with "HAMRO" concept, and whether he works or not, thats HAMRO, and he finds empty handed on the day he leaves his parents home .... Thus, turns out to be a vandalizing agent in student unioins... In school also he was taught that its "hamro school", "hamro college", in fact, s/he finally feels he is empty handed there is nothing his / her own. We never let the kids to say "mero school", we forced him to say "hamro school", we never let him to call "my country", we always taught "hamro desh"..... MA MERO MINE ........... never existed, thus, s/he is vulnerable when she does not get any share from that HAMRO stuff. ..... EVERYTHING HAMRO in Nepali society was wrong. Thats why HAMRI sitara was angry with my MAPAINESS. Don't teach to Use HAMRO everywhere. Teach its also MY, MINE... Ma pani kehi hun bhanne sikaunu paryo. "MA" hunako lagi you need to have some specialization. Only those who have some unique stuff are capable to call "MA" and proud of MAPAI. Our education system teaches same books for all kids, upto grade 10, I have no problem, but, in university education, our education system should teach them to be MA and develop MAPAI ness. Only then, our country will develop. HAMRO everywhere is the reason of failure point in nation building. Develop MAPAIness if you think that you are something above average. Otherwise, enjoy on HAMRO as a commoner. HG
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 06:50 PM
For PremPujari, who wants summary: HAMRO = MAXIMUM DISORDER i.e. highest entropy = average MAPAI = in clear cut ORDERed, i.e. lowest entropy = uniqueness take, y =give on HAMRO Part + give from MAPAI part = c + mx You have more MAPAI PART, you earn more. I wish it helps you. HG
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 08:12 PM
Dedicated to LL66HG "The freedom of the one who boasts of it, is a slavery!" And a Zen saying too, ye hajur, "I EXPRESS my mind using a brush instead of my tongue, and you seize my meaning hearing my words with your eyes." For in Mapai there is the annihilation of another! So do tell, what harm comes from the annihilation of another???????????????? :)
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 08:15 PM
Sitara, I guess you stop wasting your time dedicating something you think worth on me. I don't need your dedication. Keep it with you for your rainy days. HG
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 08:27 PM
A Person whose posting is full of MAPAI, calls other don't run MAPAI, try to teach... using quotes. You go and look at mirror first. Preach something that you practice too. Better apply your intelligence silence story on your self. Your HAZUR does not work here, as Ashu already wrote what he feels on the floow of your HAZUR. "HAZUR" alone does produce anything. That is a cunning word. If you want to preach MAPAI, OK, you are welcome. Mapai is basic requirement towards better world, of course HAMRO is bottomline requirement to be a commoner. HG
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 10:19 PM
OK LL ji, Vey interesting application of mathematical modeling to real world. But, modeling is still something one that is done for hypothetical cases and not for humans. Humans do work with intution and also with feelings, and the tricks of strategy and diplomacy, so it might be a tough call to bring everything down to equation. :-) The fact that you mention that money speaks is quintessentially demonstrated in the deals of the corporate world , so I was tryting to potray my experience of it from my end. But, this is not limited to only the corporate world, but the word across. So, as as this applies, this money matter having some weight in decisions could be a universal matter. Ok, then, we now come to a more crucial matter. Of course ,medocrity is not the aim of any society, but just doing mapai would not clear the society from this inherent status quo. The actions of our leaders --some of which were actually chappales --was all Mapai. Malai nai auncha, ma nai garchu, ma nai kanchu. Look at Sujata and all these crooks whose actions and mapainess MEANS didn't justify the END. Yes, these crooks got rich, and the country got poor. They benifited a lot, but, in the end , some of these crooks got thrown into a mess. That was Mapainess without any diligence and results. Result orientation is the key and it has to be of the highest order. But, one can claim to be arrogant about what one does, or not care to do so. It is for the individual to work on these matters, and not for anyone to dictate. Of course, people are in for themselves. They do what is right and good for them. Some are smart in ways of the world, and manage to rise to the top. In corporation, and any where else to go to the top of the ladder (provided the system is quite fair), one has to have different skills including getting an impression on to others which could happen by any of these or the combination of these factors: 1. Performance 2. Leading by Example 3. Diligence 4. Brillance 5. Determination 6. Courage 7. Passion 8. Cooperation 9. Risk Taking Attitude 10. Being able to take the pressure 11. Strategy to claim one's work But,Mapainess is just one factor. If combined successfully with all these, then you've a very successful person. People do go about with their agendas to some degree, but it all depends on what they value the most. I deal with the corporate world, the voluntary work , and the school life. At each of these junctions, one has to be able to keep one's calm and be able to be creative and passionate. Being able to cooperate is very value adding indeed. One has to have some faith in what one does, but to have all Mapainess might not be that important. I use it as needed at different circumstances. I like the idea of having more confidence and looking out for the self to be ingrained in the Nepali mind. I think it is slowly happening. It was also all this political game to throw galis at India, talking big guff about Desh Bikash, Desh Premi Geet, and all these rhetorical tools that were enmployed for people not to really think hard for themselves. But, we do have a saying in Nepali "Afu Bhalo ta Jagaat Bhalo" . People should and do look out for themselves, but some choose to mapai and some don't. I'll add my own model (which is purely theoritical )to the value added in getting a bigger group of able and confident people. E=M *C*C (C square) To get a postive energy to build something if there is a bigger group of more postivie and very smart people , because of the mass factor, the positive energy produced is higher with a core group [Mind you these people don't need to claim and boast things all along the way]. Similarly, if the mass gathers with low competency, negatively massive group like our govt. of last 40 years or so, then the energy factor becomes less effective and destructive. As far getting my own uniqueness,this is implicity understood as I've my own ID and my own thoughts, and don't need to cry about it. As far as repeating what Ashu said, why should it matter what he claimed? Where is its validity? After all , he's just another individual who can claim and challenge what he wants.
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| watever |
Posted
on 27-Dec-02 11:51 PM
ahem..... ahum ahum ahum... sorry to butt in what seem(ed) to be baldly intellectual discussion to many... Ugh a lil suggestion for Poo dai.... daiiiiii kasto tv ma tyo bela bela ma talu ma aalu falauna commercials aayee rahanchha ni...herna na bhya ho? hehe no offense hai dont want to decrease ur bald bonding drive in anyway what so ever.... :D OK a question for the ladies... I see someone mentioned Vin Diesel... I am presuming they were refering to good looking sexy kinda bald guys... ehhhh.... they are not present in majority are they?? :D just curious.... Sitaraaa.... you go girl!!!! DAMN brahmanda did anyone tell you....you write too much? no?...well hear it from me!!
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 12:10 AM
Brahma ji writes: E=M *C*C (C square) To get a postive energy to build something if there is a bigger group of more postivie and very smart people , because of the mass factor, the positive energy produced is higher with a core group [Mind you these people don't need to claim and boast things all along the way]. -- I liked your equation, too. I accept your equation and its better than mine, and I consider those who are in core, or being in a core group already they already passed the tiers of average mapainess. Once we clear the a certain tier, MAPAI ness is not required so frequently, especially, when you are in core group. CORE is already blue, different from average corlor to red or even deep red.... When they are in CORE the mapai ness and tapainess from public are very close, and difference is probabbly in 3rd or 4th order O(4) in Taylor's series..... Really, speaking the peoples in core group also have some degree of mapainess, but, its not so visible as compared to the peoples in lower tiers of pyramid. Anyway, mapai-ness is a wrapping paper, it self alone is nothing, after we open the wrapping material and see inside, the core : content is important. Facial value: starting point is always the MAPAIness.... whether its for a job searching CV or for a leadership.......... MAPAIness is an appeal to step up on ladder. Peer reviewers should look at the truthness (as mentioned before), but, not the way Sitara was jealous (looked like?) over my AtmaBritanta stories. She was not going inside its factual truth or validity, but, she was just plain jealous and try to hack me down. If she has guts she should find errors in the facts, but, not the way facts were presented. If she don't like facts, she can skip them. Cyberworld is big enough, she is not forced to read these postings, especially, when the postings do not refer to her name. Bye. HG
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 12:42 AM
LL66HG Jealousy! Envy! and all the rest!!! Oh the theories of the emotions! OH! how I wish Entropy ruled every degenerate theory! BUT or BUTT Entropy is NOT a one size fit all theory coined by the one and only HH66GURU..... for if it were so, NIH would not be in the throes of excruciating pain trying to explain the ego, the id and the alter of human nature, that haunts the threads of sajha in search of a shred of recognition! And yes! the recognition cannot be ignored.... "Empty vessels make the most dinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.......!!!!" And it reverberates my jealous ears that plead for mercy.."oh please , spare me your ignorantis-que theoretic babble, for even the warbler in it's mating call can make more sense !!!" They say t'is all in the psyche of those hungry, grasping for a semblance of recognition...oh just a crumb, just a drop or how about just jootho from the floor??????? Swiped from the mouth of those who deserve, in the name of jealousy! OH! how can NIH explain such intricate personalities with personality disorders where the need for selfjustification is elaborately wrapped in meandering strands of cobwebs.....not silk!!! Ye hajur HH66HG still dedicated at your auspicious feet with a deep Japanese bow!!! :)
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| vivid |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 04:58 AM
HG ji, Perception afno afno bhanchan! Dekhne le abarodhpurna bato pani khulla dekhchan, nadekhne le khulla bato pani banda; tyei mathi, asar bina ko ausadhi ke kam bhane jastai jam nahune bato ke maja bho ra. Sakusal pura gariyeko yatra bhanda traffic ma HONK! HONK! gardai, katai niskiyera gadi theldai pura gareko yatra po smaranlayak yatra, hoina ra??? Anyway, 450 km expressway ma 70 km jam bhari hajur ko MAPAINTWO, honk! honk! gardai gaye ta bhai halyo ni, 15% sahayatri haru le sunne mauka ta paunchan, ki kaso??? Umer le budo bhaye pani deel sadabahar tanneri rahe bhai halyo ni, kina peer mannu bha? Bujhne lai shrikhanda nabujhne lai khurpa bindh. Astu!
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 05:16 AM
Vivid, I am fine. Don't worry. Dhilo chado ko baat ho, destination ma ta pugihalinechha. Ram le 13 banabas ta bitaye bhane yo cyberworld ma kunai muskil hune wala chhaina. Lets have fun. Read the intelligensique din of Siatara.... Haath ma ful mala liyera japanu hola..... She will be chanting her Zen slokes.... on ... behalf..... us. LL66HG
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| LL66HG |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 05:23 AM
Anyway, thanks for all the postings. Whatever they were, they were funny and entertaining. Finally, ............ the posters in this thread are requested to proceed ahead ..... I was just derouted to this thread, when I could not find any other thread and found my name hanged and hacked by our great lady of the forum, who says 100s of things and add HAzur at the end and think that HAZUR will balance her previous 100s of ..... blah blah blah stuffs. Anyway, this is end of my posting in this thread. Graceful exit is better than hilo chaapachhap. Special thanks to Vivid and Brahamanda.Well, very special personal regards to Star- Sitara. HG
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 08:54 AM
LL66HG ji Ye hajur, GRACEFUL, that you are! :) Even more, SMART-ER that YOU ARE! Knowing when to quit is one of the greatest virtues of a self-preserver! :P I wish you well for the coming New Year!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 28-Dec-02 10:03 AM
Bramhanda ji, You do bring me to shame with your tongue-in-cheek praises of Sitara!!!!!!! Gives me a twinge of paranoia! :P
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 29-Dec-02 02:56 PM
Vivid, Thanks for bringing me to this reality check. Perhaps, I should mend these ways as part of my New Year's resolution. LL66HG, Thanks for making this discussion livelier and insightful. It does bring lot of isuse to light. Happy New Year to all of you!!!
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 29-Dec-02 02:57 PM
Sitaraji, I was speaking my mind, hai!! Yes, paranoia is healthy for survial.:-) Protean
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| vivid |
Posted
on 29-Dec-02 03:11 PM
Bramhanda ji, Hajur lai wish garya posting bramhandai tira lage jastai cha, pugena cha sajhapur tira. May all your resolutions be fulfilled this year. Happy New Year!
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 30-Dec-02 04:08 PM
Vivid Ji, Sorry for the freudian slip--it's been raining here lately :-) Wish you a happy new year! Protean. (Damn: Intentional Slip again)
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| Bramhanda |
Posted
on 30-Dec-02 04:09 PM
Watever, You've got the hang of things. I'll keep that in my mind.
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