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         >> I am not sure wheth 08-Sep-00 Biswo
           Sorry ,for the messed up message posting 08-Sep-00 Biswo
             JUST TO KEEP DISCUSSION ALIVE!!! Bi 08-Sep-00 hari
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ashu Posted on 05-Sep-00 07:23 AM

What follows is a photographer
friend in Cambridge, Mass. Don, a guy with a great sense of humor, was on our 14-person enjoyable trek to Mustang (Lo Manthang)
earlier this summer.

Dear Boston Nepalis, be sure to visit
Don's exhibits in Harvard Square.

--- dgurewitz@juno.com wrote:
> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:20:00 -0400
> Subject: Slide lecture on the Kingdom of
> Mustang and Exhibit of New Work
> From: dgurewitz@juno.com

> Dear Friends,

On the evening of October 19, at 7:00PM, I will be doing a slide lecture for the Cambridge Arts Council on my recent trek to the Tibetan Kingdom of Mustang in Nepal.

The event will be at the Cambridge Senior
Center, 806 Mass. Ave., in Central Square, and is free and open to the public.

I have some wonderful photos and stories from this spectacular region and
unusual culture. Please try and come, and invite anyone else who might be interested.

For more information, call the C.A.C. at (617)349-4380.

I am also looking for other places to lecture and exhibit about Mustang. If you have any ideas, please let me know.

An exhibit of my work--recent, including from Mustang, and not so recent--will be on display at

Babel Records world music store,
1130 Mass.Ave., in Harvard Square, from Sept. 23-October 13. There will be an
opening, with refreshments and great music, Saturday night, Sept. 23,from 7-9:00PM. Stop by if you can.

And, again, please spread the word.
For more information, call Babel at (617) 492-4842.

Hope this finds you well and enjoying the last days of summer.

> Take care.

> Don
> don gurewitz
> 23a kelly rd.
> cambridge, ma usa
> (617)354-6266
Biswo Posted on 05-Sep-00 11:53 AM

In this forwarded letter, the subject says
"..kingdom of Mustang..".Probably Don
did it unwittingly.Mustang is not even a
princely state.

Mustang doesn't have king.Jigmi Parwal Bista?
He is a conceited moron who was accorded this
prince status by the king of Kingdom of
Nepal several years ago.
ashu Posted on 07-Sep-00 05:22 AM

Hi Biswo-ji,

I am not sure whether you can call the Mustangi Raja Jigme Parbal Bista "a conceited moron".

I had the privilege to meet him for Tibetan chiya for about 20 minutes one morning in Lo Manthang, and, in the course of our conversations (spot-translated by Mr. Tsewang Bista, the King's nephew) I came away quite impressed with the Raja and his thoughts about development and his Mustangi praja.

Upper Mustang, as it has a King, is known as the Kingdom of Mustang, though bureaucrats in Kathmandu, for understandable reasons, hesitate to affix the label "Kingdom" to
Mustang.

oohi
ashu
Biswo Posted on 08-Sep-00 10:41 AM

>>

I am not sure whether you can call the Mustangi Raja Jigme Parbal Bista "a conceited moron".

I had the privilege to meet him for Tibetan chiya for about 20 minutes one morning in Lo Manthang,
and, in the course of our conversations (spot-translated by Mr. Tsewang Bista, the King's nephew) I
came away quite impressed with the Raja and his thoughts about development and his Mustangi praja.

Upper Mustang, as it has a King, is known as the Kingdom of Mustang, though bureaucrats in
Kathmandu, for understandable reasons, hesitate to affix the label "Kingdom" to
Mustang.



1.Debate over a mere lexicon can be stretched
endlessly, and especially in politics ,the
lexicons can have amorphous structure: I
wonder if we can still recall the great
debate in US politics over what constitutes
"sex"/having "sex" in impeachment days last
year.

I wonder if kingdom doesn't necessarily
indicate the sovereignity.The dictionary I
just referenced defines kingdom as:
1.personality of king.kingship.
2.politically organized unit or major
territorrial unit having a monarchial form
of government headed by a king or queen.
(random house/webster)

and if I follow these definition,then clearly
we can't say Mustang as a kingdom.It is a
parcelled out tract of Kingdom of Nepal.But
surely,you can find less rigorous, flexible
definition(like kingdom in animal kingdom) to
prove your assertion.

Probably,the best judicious thing to ask here
will be an example that uses the word kingdom
to denote a part of the kingdom.I have heard
of suzerain, personality,princely estate,etc
to denote in less stringent cases.

2.Your logic that "since you met him,and he
talked nicely to you about his vision,so he
is nice guy.." is a classic example of how
intellectuals gets swayed by a flimsy
e
>>

I am not sure whether you can call the Mustangi Raja Jigme Parbal Bista "a conceited moron".

I had the privilege to meet him for Tibetan chiya for about 20 minutes one morning in Lo Manthang,
and, in the course of our conversations (spot-translated by Mr. Tsewang Bista, the King's nephew) I
came away quite impressed with the Raja and his thoughts about development and his Mustangi praja.

Upper Mustang, as it has a King, is known as the Kingdom of Mustang, though bureaucrats in
Kathmandu, for understandable reasons, hesitate to affix the label "Kingdom" to
Mustang.



1.Debate over a mere lexicon can be stretched
endlessly, and especially in politics ,the
lexicons can have amorphous structure: I
wonder if we can still recall the great
debate in US politics over what constitutes
"sex"/having "sex" in impeachment days last
year.

I wonder if kingdom doesn't necessarily
indicate the sovereignity.The dictionary I
just referenced defines kingdom as:
1.personality of king.kingship.
2.politically organized unit or major
territorrial unit having a monarchial form
of government headed by a king or queen.
(random house/webster)

and if I follow these definition,then clearly
we can't say Mustang as a kingdom.It is a
parcelled out tract of Kingdom of Nepal.But
surely,you can find less rigorous, flexible
definition(like kingdom in animal kingdom) to
prove your assertion.

Probably,the best judicious thing to ask here
will be an example that uses the word kingdom
to denote a part of the kingdom.I have heard
of suzerain, personality,princely estate,etc
to denote in less stringent cases.

2.Your logic that "since you met him,and he
talked nicely to you about his vision,so he
is nice guy.." is a classic example of how
intellectuals gets swayed by a flimsy
e
>>

I am not sure whether you can call the Mustangi Raja Jigme Parbal Bista "a conceited moron".

I had the privilege to meet him for Tibetan chiya for about 20 minutes one morning in Lo Manthang,
and, in the course of our conversations (spot-translated by Mr. Tsewang Bista, the King's nephew) I
came away quite impressed with the Raja and his thoughts about development and his Mustangi praja.

Upper Mustang, as it has a King, is known as the Kingdom of Mustang, though bureaucrats in
Kathmandu, for understandable reasons, hesitate to affix the label "Kingdom" to
Mustang.



1.Debate over a mere lexicon can be stretched
endlessly, and especially in politics ,the
lexicons can have amorphous structure: I
wonder if we can still recall the great
debate in US politics over what constitutes
"sex"/having "sex" in impeachment days last
year.

I wonder if kingdom doesn't necessarily
indicate the sovereignity.The dictionary I
just referenced defines kingdom as:
1.personality of king.kingship.
2.politically organized unit or major
territorrial unit having a monarchial form
of government headed by a king or queen.
(random house/webster)

and if I follow these definition,then clearly
we can't say Mustang as a kingdom.It is a
parcelled out tract of Kingdom of Nepal.But
surely,you can find less rigorous, flexible
definition(like kingdom in animal kingdom) to
prove your assertion.

Probably,the best judicious thing to ask here
will be an example that uses the word kingdom
to denote a part of the kingdom.I have heard
of suzerain, personality,princely estate,etc
to denote in less stringent cases.

2.Your logic that "since you met him,and he
talked nicely to you about his vision,so he
is nice guy.." is a classic example of how
intellectuals gets swayed by a flimsy
encounter,and how the facts aren't considered
in assessment.Remember a Time(Or Newsweek?)
reporter who tredged in the mountains of
our tiny beautiful neighbor Bhutan and wrote
an adoring article about the king.

Since the "king" is pretty accessible,another
of my friends also recalled meeting him.He
says the man is surely charming, but he says
he didn't like him for several reasons.I
don't want to go through his reasons here.
The friend,Niraj,lives in Shanghai now.

My idea is we should judge people by his
activity in his particular field.Jimmy
Carter found King Birendra and his prime-
minister nice and democratic in Panchayat
era, and some finds Jigme good,and
considerate to his "praja"'s plight.

I don't want to classify you to any class,
but you haven't furnished any reason for me
to change my thinking about him,but the fact
remains that my mind was molded by constant bombardment
of negative media report of KTM about
him.I am pretty much receptive to any good
evidence you can give me about him.

3.I was supposed to look for the veracity of
Emerson' quotation.The faculty member here
has gone to Mobile,AL for a conference and
is coming back this friday only.So,I am stil
unable to give you guys any feedback on that.

4.About Anil Bhattarai:Well,Ashuji, the
Bhattarai family are the most intelligent
people back there in Tandi.They have innate
unparallelled mental conspicuity, appointed
with natural charm and helpfulness.I have
been in contact with Yadav (elder than Anil,
and lives in Chicago) and Dipesh(my classmate
,younger than Anil,now in mercantile).And I
miss his loving mom who used to give
me ripe papaya from their garden in Tandi..

5.Just wondering if you have read the novel
"The moon and six pence" by Somerset Maugham.
It is the best novel I have ever read.Definitely.
Even better than "the death of the Ivan
Illych","One hundred years of solitude" and
"Midnight children" which I consider to be
in runner up position.

I have so few time to read new novels now,
but I am trying to do sth.I am amazed that
you manage to do everything,man.I wish you
could post your daily time-table here..
Biswo Posted on 08-Sep-00 12:04 PM

Sorry ,for the messed up message posting.
there are two incomplete messages and one
complete message posted.Read the last one
which is the complete.
hari Posted on 08-Sep-00 12:20 PM

JUST TO KEEP DISCUSSION ALIVE!!!


Biswoji,
2.Your logic that "since you met him,and he talked nicely to you about his vision,so he is nice guy.." is a classic example of how
intellectuals gets swayed by a flimsy
encounter,and how the facts aren't considered in assessment.Remember a Time(Or Newsweek?

I like YOUR Classics way of thowing dirt at somebody using word like "logic".We cann't expect Mananga Raja to act like Ivy Grad.
It was just a reluctant sentence.

In that context word "NICE" was used support his thoughts and "impressed" with his thoughts in 20 minutes of conversation.Judging person's activty is far beyond.

catch you later
hari
Biswo Posted on 08-Sep-00 02:05 PM

Hariji:

I am sorry I didn't understand what you
mean. Will you please elucidate on your point.

That will make me alot easier to understand
how I threw dirt.