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| biratnagare |
Posted
on 07-Jan-03 10:12 PM
Dear all,
The real culprit of nepali politics is Girija Koirala. He is a very very arrogant and despotic leader. Unfortunately he became prime minister of Nepal several times. Undermining and secondguessing well-intentioned opponents within his own party and other opponents, he is the most responsible of deteriorating nepali politics. He sidestepped GMS, KPB, and others. Now he's talking about GrandDesign that involved the Royal Massacre.If he knew of it, he should have told the Nepali people because he was elected into the office by the very people. He's using this slogan now as a political playcard.
He is illiterate, arrogant,stupid and above all surrounded by his cronies.To further support him and expect him to do something good a nation really needs is not in the horizon. He is old enough to live the rst of his life in some Dharmasala.Let's all send him to Kashi, Mathura, or Banaras where he spent most of his life.Downwith Kuile Girija!!!
Yas Paaliko Haijaa, girijaalai Laijaa.....la jaa ta bhandiye!!
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| jah |
Posted
on 07-Jan-03 10:19 PM
Hey I dont blame Girija. He just being them. Was anyone before Girija better? All them people just robbed and deceived I and I. Why only blame da poor guy. It is not his fault all of them people have been doing this to I and I. If it is not the truth then tell I. It is in da system of them people.
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| tick |
Posted
on 07-Jan-03 10:42 PM
Biratnagare,
I agree with you.
Down with Girija!
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| jack1 |
Posted
on 08-Jan-03 01:23 AM
i dont blame him either, we are the one who elected him.....we knew that he was simply just a "jail qualified"(borrowed this quote from someone else, cant remember name), we knew that he was not educated enough to provide a new vision for nepali people for a brighter future. We knew that he was a criminal (Hijacked RNAC)......now i think he is simply just too old to lead nepali people...he needs to be forced to retire from politics and he should go do some Dharma and puja before he goes narayana..... so that he could get ride of the sins he committed ( making "I and I suffer")
Nepal needs a new generation leader.
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| biratnagare |
Posted
on 08-Jan-03 10:12 AM
Girija and company hijacked the RNAC plane.If it was today, then he would have been shot to death. If we go back and see what he did, then he would have been called a terrorist, and Nepali congress party would have been put into state department's list of world wide terrorist organizations. So would have been the fate of UML. Now can we convince ourslves that these old time terrorist organizations can deliver anything good for the people of Nepal ? Today maoists seize weapons and money from the government and buy weapons, they have been declared terrorist, so did girija and his party, they hijacked the plane and took the money to buy weapons. Any difference between them?
Aba desh ko unnati garne ho bhane bhutpurva atankakaari party haru ra bartamaan atankakaari party le garne waalaa chhainan. We need a Fresh Party to represent the harworking people of Nepal. Intellectuals and nationalist forces need to come forward to save the Nation.
Jai Nepali Janta
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| free thinker |
Posted
on 08-Jan-03 10:32 AM
Girija is probably the best answer the NC has to Gyanendra - and unless the party finds other leaders who are able to stand up to the King and Maoists, Girija will continue to be a vocal player in Nepali politics for as long as he lives - like it or not.
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| Logical Sense |
Posted
on 08-Jan-03 01:35 PM
Agree with you 'free thinker'.
As much I dislike Girija, for that matter, all most all of the present leader, he has proven to us that he is the best in the lot.
I salute him, among other things, for at least these two political rhoteric he gave which no other politicians had guts to do:
1) Challenged Maoisits to kill him instead of innocent poor people with no defnese.
2) First one to challenge King G in his face for his recent actions.
If you go deeper into Nepalese politics and how Girija was treated first by his brother BP and then by leaders like Ganeshman, Bhattarai etc, and understand more of his stand for Nepalese democracy and how he thinks of Party politics may be we would appreciate him little better.
Of course, he is no Great Visionary, or somebody who could turn around and rally around the Nepalese people in short run for democracy, but, I think he is definitely only hope for us at this moment.
- iti
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| aludai |
Posted
on 08-Jan-03 01:56 PM
It looks like GPK does have some suporters and it is very worrying.
He was the prime minister for most of our 'democratic period'.During the whole period he only thought about himself and his family whereas he had a golden chance to do so many things for the country.His worst action was to have midterm election when congress enjoyed absolute majority in the first election since this democracy. This set a wrong trend and the whole thing spiralled downwards in a vicious circle.
Nothing he does inspires nationality.He has to go to New Delhi before he talks in public about the 'Grand design'.Makes oneself wonder whose grand design is it.
GPK turned out to be just an ordinary, very selfish common man like any of us.This dissappointment stems from our expectation and the thought that he had sacrificed his life for this.It is like finding ourselves in a real cruel world.
Even nowadays GPK's voice changes continuously and if he is made PM, he would change again(I said made not elected).
The sooner we find another leader the better for our future.
I agree with the statement that we were fools to elect him.I regeret voting for him.
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| thegx4 |
Posted
on 10-Jan-03 10:36 AM
Girja Babu, really matter of concern for each and every Nepalese who have abstract knowledge on politics. I never suggest him as a perfect political leader but I am quite sure about his confidence for what he think and what he does for Nepal and for future of Nepalese along with democracy.
That were convincible if you have point to say that Girga Prasad Koirala does few mistake while he was in position due to ill government, but that was great of him and his ideas to rule when king himself was against democracy, Communist lack interest in democracy and were enjoying with day-dream of republic and also intra-confliction in Congress itself.
If you charge Girja Babu for the ill government then you will have to have courage to give credit for his good work. This is the intelligible view presented by some intellectual.
Before 2046
1. 250 Mwatt was the total Hydropower production Capacity.
2. 12% citizen was facilitated with consumption of electricity.
3. Only 2 universities were there.
4. 1 engineering college.
5. 1 medical college.
6. Few District headquarters were facilitated with electricity and communication services.
7. Only 5000 Km road facility was available before.
After 2046
1. 600 Mwatt was the total Hydropower production Capacity.
2. 20% citizen was facilitated with consumption of electricity.
3. Now 6 universities is standby to give better education.
4. More then 100 engineering college.
5. More then 8 medical college.
6. All District headquarters were facilitated with electricity and communication services.
7. Now it reached 20000 Km road facilities.
Is this development took automatically or was the gress of god. Due to negative approach of analyzing the situation by the citizens, adverse political leader and even by the intellectuals jointly paralyzed our motherland.
Jay Nepal.
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| Rastaman |
Posted
on 10-Jan-03 05:36 PM
Want I and I to speak da truth?
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 10-Jan-03 05:50 PM
Yes,
with your unique tangent and tone...yes the Rasta tone!
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| Rastaman |
Posted
on 10-Jan-03 06:43 PM
After 2046 Nepal Electricity has so much bills to collect from different departments of Ministries the amount can buy every household in Nepal a color TV. The reason? The Electricity dept can not collect because it is for the Ministry of Transprotation, Ministry of Water, ?This Ministers that sachivs goes on and on. It them truth or not?
80% of the poor population pay for the use of 20% power while 20% of the rich dont pay for the 80% consumption of the energy because them know this and that industry belongs or connected to ministers, sachivs etc.
lots of Universities and colleges produces lots of educated people to go to da Arab Lands to stand on the doorways or clean dishes with their knowledge of better dishwashing they learned at them colleges.
Lots of them doctors who can communicate well and many of them good because them know which aspirin is good when they are working in da Indian mastas convenient store.
Lets not talk about communications. Cause too many them people calling them foreign land to their sons getting educasion or relatives everynight and day. Per minute is only around NRS 300 but it is Ministrys telephone.
Yes definetely more roads. I think them Pajeros need roads.
True or False.
I got them statistics
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| biratnagare |
Posted
on 11-Jan-03 07:49 PM
Yeah some people have said that the Electricity capacity and total highways have doubled or tripled after the democracy. But there seems to be no mention of the total foreign debt? Inflation? Economic growth? Security? How did all these chaos emerge? Are you ready to admit as the byproduct of bad-governance or not?
Those very leaders who fought all their lives to establish democracy came in the street to topple the elected goverment by calling Nepal Bandhs right after the first government was in place. Reason? pure selfishness!!! Partisan interests! Who defeated Bhattarai? Bhandari or his own Party leader Koirala? who brought down his own government in search of stability? was not a majority of 114/205 enough to give stability a newly founded democracy? How did the maoists come to be so powerful? Who sprang them? To retaliate the growing popularity of the UML after the nine months rule, and the sweeping victory of 2054 elections, it was Girija who backed maoists hoping that they would help reduce the size of UML, because all of the western regions were swept by them.
And who finally instructed two of the NC's MPs to go hunting while Sher Bdr was seeking the vote of confidence in the House? Right after the fall of Deuba government, it was Girija who went on being a parliamentary party leader to form government with RPP, but failed, and later did form goverment with SBT, and later splinter UML. Now he is telling all these things about Palace. When the singer Gurung was Killed by Paras, Girija was PM, and he was asked to take action against the royal brat, did he do anything? He rather sacked Narahari Acharya from cabinet for speaking against the tradition of the Royal Institution. And you people whoever think that he is very bold and can deliver something in the interests of Nation really needs, have to rethink. He is just an inept leader from the crowd.
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| thegx4 |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 10:38 AM
As we already discussed, rastaman jue, the negative approach of analyzing the situation is the major cause for confound Nepalese Development.
Yes, what you wrote about the due was true, but it was not directed or activated after 2046. Its like heredity comes through long way before. The traditional of not billing due was from 2017. I again don’t mind to inform you that, that were again due to ill government. It’s not bettered to condem each and every erroneous on single person. Girja babu was not the only political leader for whole catastrophe. For the present situation all political leaders, intellectual, civil society, citizens and also the media hub are responsible. As for the analysis of road construction, it was built to create an employment, better agro based rural economy, to diminish poverty and for many more consequences throughout the country. All tarai villages are interlinked with the roads, which were built by the VDS as aid granted by government. It creates massive impact on rural economy. Local products as rice, vegetable, fruits and many more things farmer sell himself to urban area.
Some impact can be seen in the communication also. The information alternatives like newspaper, television, FM radios and many more information systems are working in Nepalese society together. Another great event happens in the sky policy, which create much more capital circulation, services and employments generation. There are more then 20 private airlines working together.
One can amaze by the development in health sector too. The 10 times increased bed capacity provides much more facility then before 2046.
It’s like the universal truth my friend, that Nepal had achieved a lot in short period of democracy.
It can’t be waited in terms of debit. One can perceive it with seeing the rural areas and villages with discriminating view.
Jay Nepal.
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| jimpathi |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 10:53 AM
Rasta u the mannnnnnn...Stand up for UR rite.
No matter how educated we are, tradition has taught us to be ignorant. We are facing the dire consequences because of that. We let ass-hole politicians and their chamche rule the country. Every sarkari offices is plagued by them.
I am glad present king is there to correct them.
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| jack1 |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 12:35 PM
I think at this point we need to protect the democracy in nepal...this is our primary need. chaos is a synoname for Democracy, thats exactly the situation in nepal.... its a chaos. Nepali people are making a transition from a tyrant rular to government by people..... the best analogy I can give for this transition is: like shaking a Naglo full of rice to make the rocks surface so that it can be individually picked and discarded.
Obviously, there are plenty of rocks in this government /political situation in napal...but if we can at least preserve the democracy and keep on shaking the naglo , overtime all those rocks could be eleminated, perhaps it could be done 20 years from today or 200...but the point is to preserve nepal the future of nepal. Lets dig roads through the pahad today so that our children could drive nepali made convertible though the pahad.
Our democracy is only 10 years old...what america today is a result of 200 years of democracy not 10....hence lets not have too much expectation on democracy for the time being.Lets preserve the democracy.....lets not give up this precious "government by people".....lets not empower the tyrant again who lived off our blood.
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| jimpathi |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 02:27 PM
Jack:
May be you can wait 200 yrs. But I want to enjoy my life now. I was very happy with my life 12 yrs ago. Life in post 90 is fked up. I dont give a damn who rules as long as I can live peacefully and progressively. Even if dictator rules, I will accept him as a leader.
In the meantime, you can plan for 20, 30 or may be 50 years of shaking Naglo.
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| jack1 |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 02:34 PM
jimpathi
nepal is f 'ed up because of people like u dum ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| jack1 |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 02:46 PM
Jimpathi
heard of "love free or die" ?......thik of that ...if u have at least a bit of dignity or forget it if its your fetish to be dominated
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| paramendra |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 03:32 PM
I looked at these figures with great interest. What is the source of this information?
Before 2046
- 250 Mwatt was the total Hydropower production Capacity.
- 12% citizen was facilitated with consumption of electricity.
- Only 2 universities were there.
- 1 engineering college.
- 1 medical college.
- Few District headquarters were facilitated with electricity and communication services.
- Only 5000 Km road facility was available before.
After 2046
- 600 Mwatt was the total Hydropower production Capacity.
- 20% citizen was facilitated with consumption of electricity.
- Now 6 universities is standby to give better education.
- More then 100 engineering college.
- More then 8 medical college.
- All District headquarters were facilitated with electricity and communication services.
- Now it reached 20000 Km road facilities.
To bolster my point: it is democracy for food, not democracy or food.
My points:
- Democracy has been a good thing. It was long overdue. King M was wrong all along.
- Democracy as it played out in the 1990s has been inadequate. Corruption has been the primary culprit. And not enough done on the social justice front.
- And then comes King G. He has taken one undemocratic step too many. Deuba was inept, true, but it is for the Nepali electorate to decide that, not for the King. The PM is not the King's "jagire."
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| jimpathi |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 03:38 PM
Jack:
You need to add ass. Do not tell me what is rite and wrong. I know and lived that shit long enough. Before trying to preserve democracy, try to educate majority of the people. If people are not educated, do you think they will understand democrazy. As long as we have situation like this, jackass leaders will continue to rule the country in the name of democracy. "Love Free or Die". It is not love free jack, I might add ass. It is Live Free or Die from New Hempshire State.
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| paramendra |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 03:46 PM
Jimpathi:
It is not democracy or food, it is not democracy or education, but democracy for food, and democracy for education.
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| Jah |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 04:35 PM
Yes it is. Yes I agree we need to get educated to get betta democracy. Ok. Wasnt them leaders of yours sachivs of yours Mantris of yours Educated? That means them educated people were suppose to deceieve I and I. Take my money at da airport. I dont get it in my Rasta brain. Here you people say we should be educated to do better democracy. How come all them educated some of them very much educated peopal deceieved I and I ? I dont want to get them educasion if I have to become like them to run da democracy. Oh no no not I. All them ministers at da oil nigam gone to get good educasion to run da good democracy. I and I turn around and see all them educated peopal. And now again you all is blaming I for not being educated.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 08:42 PM
you guys need more to think about democracy. What is democracy? You guys call a terrorist (hijacker) a real leader? A hijacker's rule is a democracy? What you call democracy is more autocracy. More corruptions than during 12 years ago. All police man started to carry guns. Army had to get more weapons. More chaos than what you called autocracy. More insecurity during your democracy? Isn't this trying to do "gau dhan " telling the people that the grass they are holding is mother cow's tail taking them to heaven? We are educated enough to compare the post and pre democracy era ? Don't tell me that night is day and day is night. We have good eyes to see if there is light or not. During pre democracy those thug netas and their followers raised the sologan during julus " goli gathha sasto bhayo! Tana sahi murda bada!. They said this just to come to power. After they came to power, they ruined the whole country to such an extent that it is hard to even find peace anywhere in the country which used to be shati chhetra.
Now tell me when is goli gattha sasto? Yesterday or today? Today what you called democracy needs more troops more guns and more money for defence than 12 years before. Trying to preach like a brahmin priest is not good. Now people had seen the behavior of thug netas including Girija who ruled most of the time and brought the country into present day chaos. It will be a mistake to think that those are the leaders of democracy. Only the fools will think this way.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 12-Jan-03 08:44 PM
sorry
Shanti chhetra instead of shati chhetra
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| Jhilke Kyailan |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:23 AM
"Where ignorance is bliss, it is a folly to be wise"....don't know who said that but it seems that is the case today in our society.
I am not a great fan of GP Koirala, but the critisms of him on this forum , in my mind at least, seems a little unfair. Being the PM for a mojority of the past 12 years he does deserve blame for our present situation,but not all.
1)If memory serves me correct, the UML instigated a series of Nepal bundhs only months after the first elections. For no legitimate reasons they tried to paralyse the govt (led by Koirala) and hindered them from carrying out their tasks. They must take some of the blame.
2) It is no secret that members of the bureaucracy loyal to the palace did everything in their power to block all reforms from being carried out.
3) The army played its part by refusing to accept the constitution as the ultimate authority of the land and aligning themselves with the Palace, in effect giving defacto power to the King. By not intervening in the Maobadi situation when the govt first asked them to, they undermined the govts authority and allowed the situation to deteriorate.
4) Other politicians perplexed by unexpected power and egged on by greed and their wives "tyasai le ta garirachha, hami kina nagarney", forgot their struggle and looted(quite openly) the country...comeon Mr. Wagle, do you honestly expect us to believe that you and your sons were not corrupt? Have we not seen the transformation in your appearance, life style, material wealth since 1990? Do you think we are stupid?
5) Businessmen, seeing the opportunity presentd by haveing imbiciles as ministers, did what they do best (in Nepal) made cheap, over night money).
6)The traditionalist (the feudal landowners) were just waiting for things to go bad so that they could say life was better when they had ABSOLUTE, UNACCOUNTABLE POWER. I have even heard some of them say Nepali isn't ready for democracy...what bullsit is that....when will nepal be ready, is it them that have ruled us for over 200 years, sucking our blood and enjoying the benefits of our hard, backbreaking toil, going to make us ready??? Why aren't we ready now??????
7) The palace realising that they up power too quickly in 1990, had been working co-vertly to discredit democracy and any individual politicians who was able to command a national audience....First rule of power...NEVER GIVE IT UP.
8) And ultimately, lets face it, we the people who were given the responsibility of safegaurding our own sovergnity, failed ourselves miserably. Did we stand up when politicins were squandering billions, did we stand up to the army when it refused to accept our sovergnity, did we cry out loud when the fabrique of everyday life was/is being destroyed by these contiuous bandhs, din't we pay the police, the govt officiers etc..the GUSH to get our work done, did we take a stand against the practice? We wanted everything now but were not willing to work for it....we were all under the impression that"money for nothing" was the way to go.....We let it all happen under our noses and now, when the situation is desperate we are looking others to blame.....
GP and all the other political figures definately played their parts, but ultimately, .....WE DID IT TO OURSELVES....and thats what really hurts.
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| jimpathi |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 09:43 AM
Pipaldanda and Jah:
Majority means more than 50 percent. Do we have majority educated?No. And it will never happen since netas are very racist.
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| Rastaman |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 12:00 PM
Jimpati wot you is talkin bout? our Netas racist? Dont be coming heya wid dem ideas of yours. Them Netas not racist Neva been racist. Them are loving peopal. Them know about total selfless love and equality. Them said that I and them were da same and dem kings were bad and oppressin I and I. Which was totally true so I fought along with them. Brought down da opressin Kingdom. Them people neva oppressed I and I. Them peopal said to I "hey broda why dont you relax. Dont do this hard work of secretaries and dem CDOs or DSPs. You can work at da airport to load and unload.
We will handle da customs and immigrations." I and I went to othar places and again them nice peopal say to I You should not take such a hard responsibilities of bring in da developement. Which was true. I and I could neva had done that. No No no way I coulda don that kind of developement. Because my friend was a living proof. As soon as them started da developement he bring I to his house. Da house was developed so much in few months. Him even had DVD which I had seen only on magazine that said new form of home entertainment for da future. Could I do that? Could you do that? So dont you come heya wid them theories of yours. Them people were neva racist or against developement. Jah Truth!
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| czar |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 01:44 PM
Jhilkey, mostly valid points.
While adding that we hold ourselves responsible for the present imbroglio, we the people are not entirely to blame either. The insitiutions that are to safeguard and support a law abiding civil society need time to develop too. The can not suddenly sprout overnight.
It is regrettable that the executive and judiciary were not fully purged of the most egregious flouters of the law. Rather, the political parties too the opportunity to pack the judicial and executive benches with their own people to ride the gravy train. Most had their snouts so firmly stuck in the feeding trough, they never had the time or inclination to do anything else.
As I understand it, it is a free press and judiciary that are both the conscience and watchdog to of democracy. How well did they perform their roles ?
And the people ? Your contention is that they fell asleep at the wheel, hence democracy was hijacked by a bunch of so n so's. How many people knew what their responsibilities were ? How much of an effort was made to educate them in it ? If so, how effective was it ? Again, the record is hardly honourable.
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| czar |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 01:51 PM
My apologies for the errors..that too..is regrettable..:)
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| Baba |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 02:00 PM
Why you guys blame Girija alone? I don't think he is too bad as some other leaders of Nepali congress. During his governments, he had to make people like Chiranjibi, Khum Bahadur, Bijaya Kumar, Bal Bahadur KC and Govinda Raj otherwise they would tople the government or split the party to join UML. He could neither make the government free of corruption nor keep his party free of division. It is obvious for a president of a party to bring his supporter in the CWC.But other leaders took that issue to disturb his government and also to agitate Opposition parties to go on to street for protest.
Now comes the role of CPN UML as a main opposition party in these 12 years. Do you think that is any appropriate behaviour as an opposition? Who do you think the Nepal Bandhas and VAndalism in the streets started in Nepal? Is it Girija? That time UML taught to Maoist so only now we get it almost every day. Look at in other counties how constructive role the opposition have in the government and in the parliament. But our Opposition remained busy to set fight in the House of representative and to train Maoist to carryout vandalism.
What about Sher Bahadur Deuba, Surya Bahadur Thapa, Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, Lokendra Bahadur Chanda and Man Mohan Adhikari? They were also leading their governments at times. What was wrong with Girija when Deuba dissolved the house this time???
I think most of us are just carried away by some kind of current. I request all of you to analyse the development from the begining and not just concentrate in Girija!!
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| Rastaman |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 02:10 PM
That is why I agree all along. It is not Girija as I have been tallin. It is all them peopal who want to Keep I and I down . Girija is only now. It is them peopal who have been keepin my granfada and his fada down . Girija is fine and he just doin what his fada told he to do.
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| Sadabichar |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 04:46 PM
Since You guys have been discussing on Girija for quite a while and wondering whether he should be branded as the Good, the Bad or the Ugly, Let me tell you something:
Some people here are arguing that Girija is not as bad as we thought coz he was surrounded by bad people in his own party as well as by the bad people from other opposition parties.
But the fact is this guy showed lots of colors during the past 12 years, he lived through the mess created by himself or the others enjoying powers off and on. If he had clear vision for the country or the pure principles for his own life and that of others, as of being called GREAT leader, he should have at least tried to display some signs towards his commitments during his political career. But he neither delivered any good to the country nor could he able to direct his colleagues and counterparts from other political parties towards stengthening the newly achieved democracy.
If Girija is a good man, he should have exited the political arena like Ganeshman did. Ganeshman figured that the devils were ruling the country and he had not much strength left to preserve the democracy. So he decided to quit political career. If the village is full of mad people, a sane people either has to leave the village or become mad himslef!!
Well going to the jails or living life in exile ( mostly India) doesn't really qualify these leaders to rule the country... that we have learnt by now. Yes, they sacrificed in the past, and their contributions might have helped bringing democracy in Nepal. But if they don't know how to run the country they better keep quiet. Just by hanging around on the scene by dillydallying will only set wrong examples and obscure young generations.
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:00 PM
oh ho! how come you peopal dont unnerstan? I is tellin again and again that it is them peopal. Them not bad. Them doin what their fada tol them and their granfada told their fada. Dont go around sayin this bad that bad I and I dont want to go no around circle. It is them systam that is bringin all da trouble. We gotta bring them system down.
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:11 PM
We're the leaders and you're the followers. Look how you follow Baburam Bhattarai and he is the Pied Piper of Hamlin. In good or bad, we are the vanguards.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:24 PM
Girija's started "brahman cracy" not democracy. Congress leader Ganeshman singh also mentioned about Bahunbad during girija's rulling. All Girija could trust were the brahmin priests only. This is a fact which cannot be denied as he was surrounded by Acharyas, koiralas, joshi bahun, Wagle bahun and other varieties of bahuns.. Now he doesn't even look like a one time hijacker terrorist and pulling down the country to such a lowest level socially , economically, politically, militarily. He did all dhandali during 12 years ruling as a PM and party leader.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:25 PM
Girija's started "brahman cracy" not democracy. Congress leader Ganeshman singh also mentioned about Bahunbad during girija's rulling. All Girija could trust were the brahmin priests only. This is a fact which cannot be denied as he was surrounded by Acharyas, koiralas, joshi bahun, Wagle bahun and other varieties of bahuns.. Now he doesn't even look like a one time hijacker terrorist and pulling down the country to such a lowest level socially , economically, politically, militarily. He did all dhandali during 12 years ruling as a PM and party leader.
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:33 PM
Hey Broda Pipal dont be Racist here. You and I must not be racist bigots. We need to learn from them. Him Girija or whatever before were always stood against racism. Them people always were equal. Them always treated them peopal equal that is why all of them peopal got all da hard jobs. Them peopal gave you and I easy jobs.Them were good peopal for them peopal
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 06:57 PM
That's why we should divide the country, one slice for bahun-chettris, and the other for you folks. I can guarantee you that Nepal's fate is gonna go downhill if we don't cut the country into half.
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:08 PM
Who dem you is to divide da country? Chyangba is goin to decide. What him gonna do. You dont need to use your big brain.Just wait and see Chyangbas gonna get everythin right.
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:13 PM
Chyangba will be dying of Aids. After all, 25% of prostitutes in bombay are Nepalis, mostly the Janajatis, and once they contract the disease they're sent back. Let's just hope there'll be no miscegenation.
When Tribhuvan wanted to give Nepal to India as a gift, India should have accepted it.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:13 PM
They have already divided the country. Can't you see most of the fertile valley land outside kathmandu have been taken away by the cunning priests with swollen bellies as a proof where as low fertility steep slopes were given to the Tamangs and the mountain folks. Now same is true in bahun cracy. They have big houses and pajeros and others have just a walking stick as a support. 12 years ago we know exactly whom to give bribe to make our things work. Now during bahun cracy we have to provide "ghus" to so many party leader but still we can't make our things work. What a same!
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:14 PM
Tamangs are of Tibetan origin. They are basically visitors to our land. They should be sent back.
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| Vision |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:14 PM
How many Bob Marley wanna be's out here anyways??? Are they multiplying or something...
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:18 PM
See how many Chyangbas commin? betta be careful Chappal. But them Chyangba dont die even if you kill he. Him is very hard not like them softies. Him survived all da travels and hardships. Even da great India could not kill da Chyangba. What is you talkin bout?
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:21 PM
India doesn't have to kill chyangas. Indians hump chyangba women, and Indians use cyangbas to fight their war. Just admit it. You have an inferiority complex because as of now, you haven't been able to compete with us.
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:30 PM
See you got no mo points in dem brain of yos. At least we dont sell like them people to Indians.Them ministers and everyone kissed Indias ass. Chyangba in Darjeeling kicked butt. Them Indiand even sent them big Indian army against few Chyangbas in da Gorkhaland. Them were all killed. All them politicals big big brains of India could not control da force of da Chyangba. You better work now so da Chyangba dont get no ideas like dat soon. You should ask da Mailabaje (Great Bahun Communist leader) Very learned very powerful. Him Mailabaje was da communist leader of West Bengal which was ruled by Communist Party. Chyangba ask him nicely. But them Mailabaje said you dem Chyangba you got dem no brains like I. Chyangba got angry. Dem Mailabaje called da state police force. Chyangba got mo angry. Chyangba said why you sendin this state army? Chyangba said go back and send them great Indian Army. Now dem Baje is gone. Read what happened. do some research my broda.
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:37 PM
Sell people to Indians? Have you been listening to me? Your women sell their vaginas to Indian customers in Bombay, don't you know? Go visit Bombay if you don't believe me. I bet it would be your ethnic group being plagued more by HIV than mine. Darjeeling is an Indian state, it has nothing to do with Nepal. So stop harping about Darjeeling already. And who controls the Nepali army? Doesn't India have its own battalion of Gurkha soldiers. Had we been even a bit depraved --which I think we should be -- we would be sending your people to fight your own people, if you know what I mean. India could drop an atom bomb up Darjeeling's ass, if she wanted to. Bajes know how to pull people's legs at the right time. That's what seperates us from you.
If you're from Darjeeling, you are not Nepali. You're an Indian citizen.
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| Natty |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 07:52 PM
I is not from India but I is telling you too open yo eyes and them you wont be like them Mailabaje. Him got really kicked in da butt. Them Chyangbas from da battalion came to fight wid da Chyangba. You aint heard nothin or read nothin. So that is why I is tellin you dat Chyangba is comin.You just think your brain is enough. You needs to listen to Chyangba when him say enough. Him gonna come him gettin angry. Another eye opener for you my broda. Them were there in them Sikkim Poudyal and then Bhandari rulin happily for long. Few years back Chyangba got angry cause them peopal wid brains did not listen to Chyangba. Now them peopal of yours gone . Now Chyangba is doin all da good work. So dont trust on your brains my mon. Him Chyangbas are bad ass peopal. Betta hide now. Betta get away now.
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 08:01 PM
Everybody knows how irascible Chyangbas can be, and that could be one reason they make excellent soldiers. Chyangba's reprisal is always "Oh, I'm coming. Fear me!", as if all Chyangbas are going to participate in the conspiracy to topple a regime based on apartheid and subjugation. It gets pretty banal, and pretty ludicrous when the same phrases are harped time and again. Come up with something different. You seem to know a whole lot about Darjeeling and Sikkim, which no bona fide Nepali cares about even a bit. These two places are Indian properties, as simple as that. They have nothing to do with Nepal. So quit mentioning them. If you're from one of these aforementioned area, you shouldn't even be coming here.
I truly fail to understand what you're trying to prove here.
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| chappal |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 08:05 PM
*reprise
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| Biratnagare |
Posted
on 13-Jan-03 10:07 PM
Deal all,
I started this thread so that some healthy points of political views be presented here. But it's deteriorating towards cummunally hated paths. This is not the thread you would want to say something about janajatis or some other race specifics. I would like to ask all of you to inject your intellectually nourished thoughts in regards to the present political scenario of the country.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 07:16 PM
sorry, I don't intend to be racist but isn't Girija himself a racist? Is it not true that Girija was surrounded by his own race? what caused Ganeshman singh to quit congress party? Ganesh mansing named Girija as a racist and acused Girija of bringing bahunbad in the name of democracy. Now if we try to speak the truth then it appears to be racist. But if we don't speak out we will be mislead like during 12 years period. We have to find out what went wrong? And it is a fact there was one race democracy. and when we point out the truth we became hypocrite. The main reason of the failure of democracy is because our so called netas are hypocrites putting a false appearance of goodness.
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| Jah |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 07:58 PM
Hey Pipaldanda broda dont be bringing your ideas here and spillin out. This forum is based on democratic principles of free thinking and speech and expression. Dont express your ideas heya. Your ideas are biased and not free. See they kicked Rastaman out for hurting nobody. Shhhhh!
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 08:06 PM
How come CATCH - A FIRE disappeared all of a sudden and JAH appeared instead .May be catch- a fire is afraid of getting burnt down by making fire. Thanks anyway for the disappeared fire and Jah for your suggestion.
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| Jah |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 08:12 PM
Them peopal heya dont want fire heya. Cause them dont want to get burned playin wid da fire so dem intelligent peopal blocked him. Ask peopal heya. Them democratic peopal blocked him.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 08:43 PM
Thanks Jah for your prompt posting! Actually I speak the truth and I tell things straight forward. If by telling correct things without distorting facts is a crime then I will take the punishment of being kicked out. Also I am very much apologetic to our dear innocent friends (who are not crooked as our netas) who may have been very much hurt by my comments. But one has to speak out the truth in order to get out of the falsehood of so called democratic life. Again remember "Goli gattha sasto bhayo, Tana sahi murdabad (bullets became cheaper and death to dictatorship) of yesterdays sologan to bring the democracy is completely false. Now we know when goli gattha became sasto. As a result so many people are getting killed everyday in Nepal. Before so called democracy any event of one person getting killed is a rare event. When it is happened then there was strikes and protest rallys. Now no more protests even after so many people are getting killed. How cheap our life has become after democracy. Now they are asking to put army under them (them means guess who the same racist netas). Can you imagine what they will do if the army goes under their command? That will be a real curse for Nepal.
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| jimpathi |
Posted
on 14-Jan-03 10:16 PM
Sick and tired of discussing Girja and Politics
anything new....
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