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| NK | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 02:15 PM
So San the Despot wants to relegate “Rastas” of this world to the land of Hedas, in this case “usergroup?” That’s right folks, from now on raja of Sajha is a despot in my book. Yeah, yeah there were people who did not like his accent. Don’t forget there were people who were not bothered by it either. What about those people’s voice? One thing I noticed about his posting was he was not crudely offensive to anybody. Of course it was to those who speak impeccable English perhaps, and to those who has nothing better to do but read his each posting and go fuming. So what he repeats the same thing over and over in each posting? Was he like those posters who deface this site with porn and porn-like pictures? Was he writing something that would be considered a “blasphemy” to the sanctimony of this site? The answer is NO. All he was doing was talk in Rastafarian accent. Hey I personally don’t like those republican’s message who post relentlessly why the king should go? Shouldn’t they be sent to something like ‘Republican’ usergroup? How about my friend Isolated Freak’s posting after posting after posting (you got the picture right?) on pro-monarchy stance? And how about those relentless “poetry” about moons and junes and junkiris?? Ask Surya she thought “they were moronic.” An,d and how about Sitara’a Zen dis and Zen dat and Zen dem??? I swear if I hear anymore of that I am going to jump into the Ranipokhari. Alas! Except I ain’t got no Ranipokhari here. Dem Ranipokhari is in my smoggy, café-littered Kathmandu. And, Charles river is freaking cold. I don’t want to freeze to death whey I am set on drowning myself to death! Honestly folks, I thought I would never see a day where I would say such a thing. But after Ashu left for his supposed plan to write a book on Ph.D. in no other than Chinese language and proposed brief tryst with down under Sajha is increasingly becoming what Sajha was not. And I personally don’t like what I see. There was a very kitchy Hindi song, “Ye to taime taime kee baat hey Jahnny, Taime Taime kee baat.” That basically sums it up. Now if you excuse me I want to do few posting and write a poem. Of course of course if the despot allows it. As you may or may not have noticed I don’t get to post much these days. Blame it on boring Sajha.No ass-kissing comments please. And punch- no lower than my studded and chained belt which I have worn in really really low. |
| Harris | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 02:38 PM
Well said NK. What about those always-twist-at-the-end-stories by Deep and not-so-easy-to-read-nepali-script-stories of ??!. Shouldnot they also fall into the same class of your poems? Deep and Gunaraj, watch out.... ask before you post your new stories. |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 02:38 PM
Thank you, NK for mentioning me in your post. I feel much better. I was really starting to feel ignored. Khaja Biscuit has not paid any heed to my numerous posts and all the clue dropping I have been doing in the chat room. sigh.... So what now? San a despot? That has to be the most moronic thing I have heard! :) Yes, I said that. It really is. Come on. Rasta was exiled not because of his accent. I do think San's approach could have been more direct and maybe his solution really more despotic. If it were I running this site, I would be!! But I'm not and actually San was so nice about it. I don't want to rehash how Rastaman is a moron. But, well he is. His Rasta accent and "inability" to write in "proper" queen's or American English (i would say choice not to) is his own and that is not at all the reason that led to San the Man to put his foot down.I don't wanna speak for the guy, ut personally I think San does a darn good job running this site, and I think it is quite unjust to judge him so. I thought the "RastaVibe" user group idea was rather funny and clever! Hail to the despots fo the world who make sure freeloaders and kam chors have a place to come and congregate! Hail to the Despot who lets the people define what the site is, and only steps in when things are about to sink into anarchy and chaos! San IS the man! The kind of despot who if we had more of the world would be a better place. Call me an ass kisser if you want, folks! In the end, NK, it seems your post is sort of an eulogy to Ashu, who I know you miss terriblym, and sort of a marker of how time has passed. Such is life. Even Ashu is not permanent! And thank God Sajha is not what it was before... how absolutely boring would that be. Of course I too miss certain things, but its a bloody website. How boring would it be if it were not dynamic and if new faces and ideas did not enter the picture ever. The flavor of the week in terms of the Rastas and Khajas keep things moving and grounding us in the reality there is outside of this site! Otherwise, I am afraid people might really start beleiving that the real world too is populated by NKs. Ashus. Biswos, Paschims, and VillageVoices! And then then the oridnary man and woman who visits this site will start developing a complex and have low self-worth! How can we let that happen!! |
| Harris | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 02:45 PM
Hey Surya..... you turned the bow and arrow 180 degrees to the west. Whatever sajha.com is, it is not as boring as those 3-page-long-at-a-time-alternate-posting-by-a-couple-of-highly-educated-folks whose language I often found as difficult to understand as I do have difficulty to understand this Rastafarian language. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 02:51 PM
Dear NK, First of all, I respect your views but this doesn’t mean I have to agree with you. So, in the true spirit of Sajha Kurakani, let’s have a constructive debate on the issue of censorship. NK, the thing is: San owns this site. Its his site and he has the rights to impose some restrictions to improve the quality of this site. Let’s see it this way: NK, I am sure you are a very social person, you have guests coming to your house and you are very hospitable, kind and a super super nice host, but does that give your guests the rights to litter in your bedroom? No. Would you let your guests to play baseball in your drawing room? No. Why? Because you want your house clean. If someone comes to your house and say, litters or play baseball in the drawing room, you have every rights to : 1. politely tell him that his behaviors are unaccepted at your house 2. if he insists on doing such things, then you can ask him to leave your house But, if you are super nice, you can join him in the baseball/basketball game and break windows, TV and everything (but again, you and your family members are likely to get hurt by the scattered glasses:-). So, to ensure your family members’ safety, you have to choose one of the 2 options, hoina? I am not sure, maybe there are other options. Regarding other issues though, you are right. I am with you. Disagreements aside, let’s join hands to make this site even better. All set to leave for Gorkha in about 2 hrs from now. Its 2 AM NST, so, let me get an hour's sleep. |
| najar | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 03:04 PM
I too am with Surya (i think i know who she is now, not in person but in terms of sajha poster). Surya, btw when is the bhogate party? are we still up for it? :-) NK, with due respect i am on the other end of the spectrum on the issue you boldly raise. Yes, rastaman was not offensive, yes he was exercising his freedom of speech. but come on he did not have to invade each and every thread with the same argument, same rationale and same defense. I too, had enjoyed his first few postings and the accent he had used. Had it not been for his monpoly, he probably would have sustained and people probably would have imitated his accent in sajhaland as well. Regarding how boring sajhaposters these days are, not all of us can become so intelligent or whatever is the term one would like to use for what"it used to be". As in real world this site too needs common folks like us who come here to have a mere fun with our small talks and ganthans and not write a book, mahakaabya or tell the world how accomplished we are. If ashu or anyone for that matter leaves, another individual comes (not that i have grudge against ashu); thats the change and change is always good. Each poster to me has something to contribute, it may not meet my interest but does not mean they are boring. And if the prevalent talent in sajhaland with poets, travel narrators, katha lekhaks, memory lanes, sport updates, jyotishis, jhagadas, political discussions, talks can be termed boring, i don't know what could be called interesting. May be i just have boring choices, may be i am boring person myself. or was the site just designed for a special group? okay enough said...in good faith and ofcourse warm wishes to "historians of sajha" |
| sks | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 03:10 PM
Surya, u say Rasta was not exiled from mainstream Sajha because of his accent, but then u fall short of explaining why exactly he was exiled. Pray tell us what u think drove San to "put his foot down" on Rasta. |
| Logical Sense | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 03:15 PM
NK, well said. And Surya is a girl? Hmm that is unlogical to me. But, I will take it at face value. IF jyu, point well taken. But, I think I will politiely disagree with you. Your comparision is comparing apples with oranges. Would you not let fight two boxers in a boxing ring? Of course, there are rules and regulations in the boxing rings also. But, what kind of boxing it is going to be if they will keep on bowing to eacher for every blow they want to punch others on? Don't get me wrong, I am big proponent of keeping Sajha a clean place to bring more people to participate even kids and bujruk alike. I fought a good fight even with a attorney sajhaites in my column "Enough is enough" where I denounced pornography and prophanity in main stream Sajha. But, having weired accent for weired entertainment and talking prophanity in public site is two different thing. So, my point is if something you don't like you just ignore, and if there is no appetite for it, it will just die. Don't you see even 'help nepal' irritates people a lot. So you see, people are not talking 'help nepal' in Sajha that much anymore. That topic is not entertained here, that is it. - my 2 cents |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 03:32 PM
Surya: hear, hear!! I knew there was a reason why I liked surya so much :) |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 04:26 PM
Najar, Joie:) SKS: I think I do say why I think he was booted. Read the post again. Logical ji, I have always told you, I don't really aspire to be "logical" anyhow, logic is highly overrated. |
| whine and chij | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 04:30 PM
this reminds me of those parties where folks come, have a great time, then more and more folks come, then things really start heating up. GUESTS start abusing the host and start ACTING LIKE THEY OWN THE PLACE. of course, when the poor host tries to reassert some control of the situation, some folks who're enjoying themselves perhaps a bit too much at the expense of their host start getting upset...hey! who the bleep do YOU think YOU are? i believe the term is called wearing out one's welcome. an' by da way, ma frens, 'tis da rastaman who wansta be kept apart from tha resta us...an' them. when we used to face the out of control party, we'd wait 'til the cops showed and then we hand-picked who got booted out and who got to party on like it was on sale for $19.99...strangely, the result was always the same...fewer guys and a higher babe quotient! ;) i'm tempted to pay san just to pull down the site for a few months as a little attitude adjustment. and sajha is just as good or better without ashutosh tiwari. sks, mon, if ratsaman is i-and-i, then rastavibes is the closed "in" group, and it's the rest of them (us), who've been unilaterally exiled. get it straight! |
| sks | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 04:57 PM
I thought the party was over when the cops showed up, but how would i know? i was always among those unfortunate ones who got booted out. Personally, I think we're reading a little too much into what San did or did not do. Whatever he did, its his prerogative and i, for one, refuse to waste my time trying to justify or persecute it. |
| Sig Freud | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 04:58 PM
Okay, I have been a reader of this site for a while(more than a year) and now I want to post too. I will present my psychological analogies for posters and their posts. My first victim, NK. This posting clearly suggests that NK is drifting away from the Sajha now a days. She enjoyed her fame vehemently in her earlier days of Sajha. But Sajha has seen many new faces in the recent months and most of them don't know her. The topics they raise are mostly not the field of interest for NK. Being a normal person, her normal ego is hurt when she hardly sees her name being mentioned in Sajha now a days. If you are not the topic of a conversation, ant the topics being conversed are not within your domain of interest, its normal to get distracted from Sajha. A rebellion attitude is the final outcome in most cases. And as such, NK is supporting the posting of a person who is criticized by most of the posters, including SAN. Personally, I also like Rastaman's postings. It is healthy to channel such dissatisfaction in this way and this is my diagnosis. If anybody takes it as a negative criticism, this will be my first and last posting in Sajha. I will continue visiting this site though, from my friend's computer.:) The doctor is out. |
| Logical Sense | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 05:37 PM
Sig Freud, please don't get out just because of one person. You should do only when 51% will boot you out. Democracy Hajur. I liked your posting. I think good psychological analysis. I think you have been good reader for a year. So, welcome!!!! -iti |
| Logical Sense | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 05:44 PM
Surya ji, I understand that not everybody is everybody. Santan Thari Tharika in Sajha makes it more interesting. And, I do honor your believe. Peace in Sajha. BTW: Looks like many Sajha insider knows who is Surya (from good old days). Hamilai Pani Enlighten Garidinushna, it will be more fun :) - Yo Logic Le Bhayena!!!!! |
| VillageVoice | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 06:56 PM
*The flavor of the week in terms of the Rastas and Khajas keep things moving and grounding us in the reality there is outside of this site! Otherwise, I am afraid people might really start beleiving that the real world too is populated by NKs. Ashus. Biswos, Paschims, and VillageVoices! And then then the oridnary man and woman who visits this site will start developing a complex and have low self-worth! How can we let that happen!!* Surya, kasto broad language use gareko? Tks for keeping me alongside the illustrious company. Yes, I have been reading their (the people you have named) postings and I do immensely enjoy their writings. Not to imply that I don't enjoy a host of new posters--Suva Chintak, Sitara, and Poonte, for instance. That aside, how do you decide that the real world is not populated by people like us--but you (re: "...people might really start believing that the real world too is populated by NKs, Ashus, Biswos, Paschims and VillageVoices!")? And that we are all unreal? Why is your "real" "more real" than my "real"? Aren't you running to a monumental judgement here? Let me quote Samrat Upadhyay,"What makes you think that your world is any more real than mine?" (When asked that many people found his Kathmandu unreal.) All in the spirit of sajha kurakani, hai. :) As for Rasta, I do enjoy his viewpoints--though not always the Rastafarian da da's. But then I always have the choice to skip them. Sending him to exile? Maybe not a good idea. Talking about majoritarian rule can be a bit misleading, esp. in forums likes these where all kinds of ideas, and threads, have thrived. For instance, Surya may decide tomorrow that NK, Ashu, Biswo, Paschim and VillageVoice are unreal, and hence should be exiled in deference to 50.1 percent of the sajha posters who cast their vote against them. Again I reiterate... all this in the Sajha spirit. And of couse in defense of unpopular ideas and language. |
| NK | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:03 PM
It was just a matter of time that posters not postings becoming the topic. Sig Freud, My dear ,forgive me for answering only you. I did not really write this to ignita a debate. I was just a bit tired of peple saying 'ho hajur, ho hajur.' you say , "This posting clearly suggests that NK is drifting away from the Sajha now a days" but, I really don't get it. How does this posting shows "NK is drifting?" Just two clues from above posting would be sufficient to silence this puzzled mind. And being ignore by young turks made me reblellious. Hmmm... Wow! Now I get it! I think the problem of Maoists solved ladies and gentlemen. Cuddle them, give 'em some luvin' and voila'! The rebellion will be a history. Thank you( in advance) for saving Nepal. Koti koti dhanyabad -in advance, of course. Hey! it is already 8:02! I should go and put my lil' daughter to bed. Good Night !Everybody! |
| NK | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:05 PM
village Voice! Hey you came from the dead! oops! it is 8:05!!!! |
| Scorpio | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:11 PM
GET A LIFE... NK!..If You can't get DA Attention! |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:15 PM
VillageVoice:) I was waiting for you!! One minute after you post here I am! :) Of course the language I used broad and my judgemnet judgemental. I was taking cues from NK... her language... "despot,""rani pokhari ma ham phalne"... how much more broad and dramatice can you get! After all responding to such post of such high tenor, I have to keep up and do justice! hoina ra? :) And no, I am not implying that YOU or others mentioned in my little list don't enjoy the newcomers. Rather these are like the "legends" re kya... some in their own mind. :P But really though, folks I mentioned bring a wealth of intelligence and sense, and so... well so darn "good." Anyhow, someone already said here, change is good and desirable. Pining for good old days is fine enough, but being stuck in the same mold and becoming stodgy and boring is boring. No need to quote Samrat ji in vain (I say let's keep him aside now as a secret weapon instead), I agree my reality is no more real than yours. You are as unreal to me as I am to you. Rastaman has in my opinion gotten more than enough attention from me and everyone else. he simply does not deserve it and I don't want to say anythign about him anymore. As for the iddue of "excile" and "banning," others have spoken to that more elequoently than I could. Regardless... peace:) |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:16 PM
Hey that just reveals that I bloody took 15 minutes to post my thought!! :) |
| san | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:28 PM
Yes Rastaman did nothing wrong and he had good points to say. Najar hits the bulls eye when she/he observes "he did not have to invade each and every thread with the same argument, same rationale and same defense". After I had sent a message regarding MONOPOLIZING the content of the site, the only solution left was to create a usergroup for him where he was 'still' free to post, BUT not so much monopolizing the Kurakani in sajha - by constantly invading each and every thread with same argument. Even after continual reminders, he has insisted on registering new usernames to post his 'same ole' views still in excess - in every thread. Even to this day, he has not hesitated to register new username and still post. I have nothing against regular posting. BUT as soon as someone becomes repetitive - posting the same thing in each and every thread, then I have to step in to control the flow of Kurakani. This is because, as a viewer, I myself would be turned off by any one person's monopoly in ANY site. I want to go to a site like this to read diverse opinions and thoughts and ideas. That is what is charming about a site like this. BUT, when ONE person takes over the threads like done by Rastaman and his 'avataars', it takes away the fun because the site then begins to look like one person's playground. This is not to say I don't want people to post a lot. BUT, if it is repetitive postings on the same subject, by the same person, THEN, I will have to step down to crack my so called whip, in order to maintain the sanity of the site. I really liked Isolated Freak's analogy of a house. Yes, this is my HOME(page), and I welcome anyone to come here and party. Meet new people, make lifelong friends, share different ideas, and everything else that comes with meeting people. But there are some basic rules of decency that everyone needs to follow such as respecting everyone and making sure you are NOT monopolizing the party by any boisterous activities like constantly repeating the same thing all the time to everyone's face whether they are talking to you or not. Even then, you are free to go to a private room and talk as much as you want, with people who want to talk to you. Hope this explains my rationale for creating the usergroup 'Rasta Vibes'. Best Wishes, San |
| matrixx | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:30 PM
So Surya, you are competing with NK? Is that it? As others have seen, you are nothing but a "Verbal Sludge." What do you mean by Logic is overrated that you often repeat by the way? |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:37 PM
Thank you matrixx. Coming from you that's a compliment. And I thought we had a pact. Oh well! |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 07:38 PM
wow, surya. that's high praise indeed from matrixx. I envy you!! :) |
| NK | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 08:36 PM
Hey There Surya, A brief comment: A question first: What made you think this was an "eulogy" to Ashu? Let's not give the guy too much weight shall, we? Render unto Caeser what is Caeser's and Render unto God what is God's Second: when Village Voice asked you why you used such a"borad language" to explain your reality and other's supposed reality you quote me to explain what you meant by that: " "I used broad and my judgemnet judgemental. I was taking cues from NK... her language... "despot,""rani pokhari ma ham phalne"... how much more broad and dramatice can you get! After all responding to such post of such high tenor, I have to keep up and do justice! hoina ra? :) " For an easily puzzling mind such as mine your response not only puzzled me but it succeded to turn the posting of yours to a big question mark. I called San a despot because - his choice seemed arbitrary - he has the power to shut anybody up with a click of his mouse etc etc etc What did you see so "more broad" in my "rani pokhari ma...?" What is "broad" here? and yeah dramatics? Theatrics? That is the reason, my dear people read postings. You know, spice them up. Did you mean to say your answer above was for purely theatrical effect? Last, I am too eager to know what do you mean by "logic is overrated?" All in Sajha spirit of course. And najar and other posters: I do like few people's postings here and because of that reason I visit when I can. Don't get me wrong. As our Psychology failed Dr. Freud said, most of the topics don't fall into my area of interest. That is why i said it is boring. Let me tell you something here from a page from my personal life. I used to subscribe Time magazine for years and years. Then suddenly i realized I had been reading only few articles. It had started to bore me. And the day they put Tom Cruise (or some holywood actor, i don't remember) wih fluroscent green for a boarder on the front page I stopped my subscription. Ps surya, I hope when you said "free loaders and kam chors" I hope you are talking for yourself. :) PPS yes, my daughter is fast asleep. PPS Hey I am leaving too for the weekend! Let's talk when you get back :) |
| khaja biscuit | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 08:55 PM
If this is a *private site*, why ask for donations from strangers for its upkeep? Would one build one's *private house* by asking for donations of bricks, cement and wood? Such a house, if built, would be a paati or sattal, open to all drunks and saints. Once donations come in and are accepted, what is the ratonale for one person to hold the absolute sway over who to invite and who to throw out? NK brings up logical points. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 09:08 PM
Tsk! tsk! tsk! Such bickering!!!!! NK, as always you write well.... ekdam boonda bandhera lekhya ke! :) Arko Zennist Kabita lekhidiyoon? :P... you can jump into the Potomac River...It is warmer here! :) BUT, Mind THE BUTT..... SAN is NOT a Despot! |
| surya | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 09:20 PM
Brief? :) NK: I have no beef with you. If you didn't like my post, well too bad. I was not trying to diss you. Though I get the feeling you thought I was. Ashu you brought up and this is not the first time you have mentioned in kurakani that without him the site is no longer what it used to be. So, in my post I am acknowledging that you do miss him. But that change is not always a bad thing. And what about Czesar now or God?! I didn't get that. And if you don't know what I might mean by "logic is overrated," well, I am not in the mood to edify. Being a poet I would have imagined you more than anyone else would have understood, but maybe I am making too many assumtions. Regardless, that "logic is overrated" is a pretty simple and straight forward idea. If its a really buring question for many, I will start a thread one of these days and we can explore together logic, non-linear thinking, intuition and the like. Hunna? And when I said "I used broad and my judgemnet judgemental. I was taking cues from NK... her language... "despot,""rani pokhari ma ham phalne"... how much more broad and dramatice can you get! After all responding to such post of such high tenor, I have to keep up and do justice! hoina ra? :)" I meant exactly that. That I took my cues from you. In your original posting uou could have chosen words other than despot or alluded to something other than suicide when saying you cannot stand whatever it was that you cannot stand (was it the Zen stuff? I forget). But you didn't. You chose those words and ideas. Regardless of the reasons. And they are dramatic words and ideas. You could have simply written... "Hey san is being heavy handed with Rasta. I miss Ashu and feel like this site has changed." or maybe a little bit more. But your post was yours because it had some drama and some movement. And I responded like wise. I feel no real need to justify what I said or why. I am responding primarily out of courtesy and because you addressed me. My posting might have had an element of theater, but I meant pretty much all of what I said. If you did not think it was genuine, well, too bad. Yes, NK. I meant me and many others as well when I said "free loaders and kam chors". You being a lady of means, rest ssured I did not mean you.:) |
| Paschim | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 10:05 PM
Katro jaatra! Although an infrequent visitor these days, I for one remain an admirer of the changing, evolving Sajha, and its gracious owner, San Pradhan. I join VV in appreciating all the "new" arrivals and avatars here, although I am a Sajha infant myself, aged just over 1 year. |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 16-Jan-03 10:17 PM
arrey Paschim-ji, ek barsa ma ni tapain lai thaha nabhayeko? Jaatra and kurakani are synonyms. Any wonder why some of us stay away? (oh shoot, what the heck am I doing here yet again? back to my cave I go!!). |
| san | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 12:50 AM
Khaja Biscuit: in the About Us page, it states "In order to take care of expenses incurred in maintaining the web presence, we are currently accepting donations." Nowhere is anyone informed if they make a contribution, that they will be given anything in exchange. This contribution is made out of their own free will to support this site without any implied contractual agreements. It costs money to host this site and some people have shown their faith in my judgement and have helped in paying PART of the cost over the past year. Just wanted to clear up your misunderstanding. Best Regards |
| papra | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 01:28 AM
Well, some one had once in Sajha.com stated that this website was like nepali society, where people back-bite, argue, wish for ill-fortune for their own fortune, pull leg (whatever that's supposed to mean) so on and so forth. But now what it seems is, this web-site not only represents just a nepali society but also the nepali political situation. Sajha.com is like Nepal, democratic and free for everyone. Like in Nepal no sales tax is collected, in sajha noone is charged for buying the space to express themselves. Like in Nepal, Gaynendra is the King, in Sajha San is the King and the owner. Like in Nepal, Gaynendra constatnly states that Nepal is a democratic country and that he wishes for development of democracy, in Sajha San says the site if free for everyone and that he wishes that more people could contribute to the site. But now, like in Nepal, even though a democratic country, Gaynendra with his absolute power dismissed the prime-minister elected by nepalese, in Sajha, San with his power dismissed Rastaman from common discussion forum. Wa re Wa, Sajha ta euta sano Nepal po bayachha. |
| tick | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:45 AM
What's wrong with most of you guys? I think you all are throwing the issue out of context. It is San responsibility to keep the site simple and prevent it from being over indented with the same message all over Sajha. If you like that some to say the same thing over and over again all day long, won't you get tired? I know I will. It is not about freedom... Please also look at the context of how much it costs to host the site, how much it costs to maintain it and how much it costs to archive data etc. To keep it simple it takes money and time, lot of it to keep it running. There needs to be some control to keep the site manageable. All San is asking to follow common language that everyone can understand. Freedom is not free. Freedom can only be free when people practice decency, respect others and use a language that people can understand. Dear NK, Please read other threads where this issue has been discussed. I find myself repeating here. San I applaud your effort to keep this site manageable, enjoyable and please make it tighter rules if you have to make this site. I also appreciate you opening your decision for discussion. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. |
| San | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 08:24 AM
NK, just wanted to respond to your following comment: > I called San a despot because > - his choice seemed arbitrary > - he has the power to shut anybody up with a click of his mouse > etc etc etc Please read my response aboveregarding why this is not some arbitrary action. Regarding me having the power to shut off anybody with the click of a mouse, let's get practical, this is not some country with a democratic elected government, where decisions are made after meetings and votings. This is a simple website, where some decisions need to be made sometimes, and I as the admin, need to make some decisions by clicking the mouse as you put it. Somebody always needs to have the power to click that mouse, otherwise there would be anarchy and sajha would be a forsaken land just like some other discussion forums. So in essence, I don't see any problem here. |
| Suna | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 08:27 AM
HMMMMMM NOW NOW LADIES!! Can we quit dissing each other!! Although I must admit, its bluntly open and more to my taste unlike the guy's match which was dripping with sarcasm and flowery words! :) Kya ho!! kura ekdum simple cha kya! San is the webmaster/owner who does this at his own free time and maybe not :)! Its totally up to him to pull the plug! If he decides that he wants to open up a thread its totally up to him HOINA RA? KINA CHYAAAAAAAAAAR CHYAAAAAAAAAAR yaar haru??? Many of us may/may not like it but thats that! My own replies have been pulled coz he felt they were too umm vile :). And many a times I felt he may have been biased :). BUT....alik arka ko gharma ayera ghatiya behura dekhauna bhayena ni. Tesailey CHUP ma! Many of us have contributed and feel that we all must have a say in what he does - WE'LL WE'RE WRONG!We've been using this service for over a year lets say for a "contribution" of $50/$100 at the most?? and before that for FREE. I say we owe San much more than that if we are to start complaining. Say his fees would about around $70/hr- (based on tech salaries)? All of us self-proclaimed-intellectuals who have made sajha our pewa should be able to do the maths??Should we start paying to take our crap?? What he is doing is community service to all of the Nepalese OUTSIDE of Nepal and we call him names? (NK I am not pointing at you, I understand you may have a more closer relationship with San and who may not be offended with you calling him a despot). This is to everyone who DEMAND this and that with not even so much as a PLEASE in their sentences!! |
| Suna | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 08:28 AM
Please read: All of us self-proclaimed-intellectuals who have made sajha our pewa should be able to do the maths??Should we start paying to take our crap?? AS All of us self-proclaimed-intellectuals who have made sajha our pewa should be able to do the maths??Should we start paying San to take our crap?? |
| Koko | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 09:15 AM
Its funny to see all those very people who wanted registered posters only here on Sajha a while back are the very ones who are lashing out on San. I still remember the debates where people wanted to make this an exclusive club for the likes of Sajha Pioneers. Now that they do not have as much controll over the day to day services of sajha.. they are lashing out on the webmaster. San has done nothing but make chages when people ask him. If people had not complained to him about Rasta he would not have blocked his Ip. He took all the porn out of here when people asked him, he made it a registered users only because people asked him etc etc If at all if there is anyone to blame, it would be the community. We are the ones making the calls here not San. He is no dictator of any sort nor is he a despot, he is simply just a webmaster TRYING to serve our community. |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 09:16 AM
Hey San, you know we love you :) |
| Jame Bonds | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 09:46 AM
I think it's ironic that NK calls San a despot because he has the power to delete with his mouse. If I'm not mistaken, couple of years ago when someone was 'harassing' NK with foul words, San had to use the same mouse, and NK was fine about it. Reminds me of this saying 'Taak parey Tiwari, natra Gotamey'. And she's missing Ashu Tiwari. Voila! |
| Toilet paper | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 09:58 AM
Like Papre said that Sajha.com is like a poilitcal situation in Nepal, I would also like to fill in few words on that thought. Sajha.com is like Nepal, democratic and free. San is like Gyanendra, the ultimate power, and the owner of the site. Rastaman is like Deuba (unable to hold election), unable to maintain a prospering atmosphere in sajha.com. So San kicks Rastaman out like Gyane did to Deuba. But now here comes NK, like Girija accuses Gyanendra of taking the absolute power, NK accuses San of being a despot. It was Girija that went to palace when he was the prime-minister to ask the military help from the king. And it was NK, during her popular phase in Sajha.com who asked San to help get rid of someone who was harassing Nk like 007 has mentioned. This is like, "JUN THAL MA KHA YO, UHI THAL MA CHUTHYO." |
| sally | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 10:31 AM
Good job, San. We can make all the analogies we want, but there's no country and no house and no restaurant and no anyplace else I can think of, except maybe the looney bin, where "freedom of speech" would be understood to include the right to rant like a nutcase, saying the same thing over and over, no matter the context and no matter what other people said. A guy pretending to be Jamaican might be charming, or weird, or eccentric, or obsessed and psychologically troubled, or whatever, but no one would care about that--until he starts stepping on the rights of everyone else. If I decided to rename myself John Lennon and insert the statement "I AM THE WALRUS! KOO KOO KA CHOO!" after every third posting, I hope San would clamp down on me, too. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 10:53 AM
***Kumar jee aagya garnu hunchha, hae agasthamuni...*** The other day, after a full day's contemplation over a response to one of the postings, I finally sat down to write. I was so eager to write that I didn't even bother to brush my teeth--I was in front of the monitor within a minute after I opened my eyes in the morning. Still yawning, I searched for the thread. Wiping my eyes, I searched again. Where is it, damn it? Ah! So that thread too had been relegated to some "user group!!" Believing that the majority perhaps loitters around KURAKANI only, I thought to myself, "Well, what the heck. Let me just forget it!" I didn't want to respond to a thread that many, particularly the poster that I wished to respond to, would not bother to put an extra effort to extract. I was dismayed; I felt helpless; but I moved on. Moved on? I wished! Since the issue is up again for discussion, allow me, once again, to let my thoughts be known. I agree with the most of you that RASTAMAN had become a nuisance: I need not reiterate the reasons for it. However, amidst the irritation stemming from his abrasive postings, I still found an important issue that "I" and "I's" postings seemed to have raised. It was the focus on this issue--namely, poverty and oppression of the poor people--that provided me with the energy to delve deeper into the message while being able to ignore the messenger. RASTAMAN obviously was a terrible messenger; but, in my mind, he carried a good message. I have encountered other posters whom I found far more offensive than RASTAMAN, so I always wondered why the big fuss had been created over this particular nuisance, especially when he had not resorted to obscenity as his defense. Frankly, I felt more offended when I found myself deprived of being able to respond to an important issue. This is why I believe what has been done to RASTAMAN sets a dangerous precedence--a trend to relegate some of the "irritating, but not offensive enough to warant an exile" threads to a "USER GROUP" and, in effect, shut the door to healthy discussion over an important issue as well. I know I can write in the thread by retrieving it from the "User Groups," but without the guarantee that the poster I would have liked to respond to would do the same, my incentive to take part in the discussion simply wore off. Having expressed my disapproval of what San did in this instance, I, however, would still fall far short of calling him a despot. We had disagreements, and I vehemently argued for what I believed was right. I simply lost the case, perhaps because I could not make my case strong enough. I have bitterly swallowed the unfortunate result, accepted defeat, and moved on. San has been a terrific manager, and I believe he will always remain so--just because I disagreed with his one decision does not render him a despot. ***Iti-shree iskandae puraanae kedara khandae magh mahatme kumar agasthamuni shree swasthani brata kathaye, namaha!*** |
| khaja biscuit | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 10:58 AM
Sallyji, with attitudes like that, you better join Gorkhapatra when you go back to Nepal. |
| vivid | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:03 AM
Sally ji, He should and he would! :)) Agreed, thats all I have to say. So, what now? We just continue our virtual journey. Hassles may come and go but San will always be there to take care, lets hope. |
| sally | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:04 AM
Poonte, I'm sure he had something to say. I even have an inkling what it was, and it might have made an interesting discussion. Too bad he didn't have the courage or psychological ability to speak without such a quirky disguise--although that wasn't the reason San had to clamp down. Koo koo ka choo. |
| khaja biscuit | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:15 AM
Sallyji, who defines what is an interesting discussion and what is a discussinn worthy of clamping down? Popular taste? |
| surya | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:15 AM
Sally!! :) Are you wearing those ghandi glasses too?! |
| Jame Bonds | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:20 AM
Khaja you don't need to wait for popular taste to define that posting 40 postings about the same damn thing in one day is irritating as hell for anyone in their sane mind. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 11:52 AM
How would you respond to a Friend who asked to borrow money, to buy a sword with which to stab you????? It was written by Gibran.... How appropriate it is. Now, that SAN is getting Slammed! |
| NirajBS | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 12:06 PM
>>How would you respond to a Friend who asked to borrow money, to buy a sword with which to stab you????? Not lend him the money. Duh--- :) Only Gibran the hyprcrite would write like that. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 12:12 PM
BS ji I know you!!! :) If you "know" "Gibran the hypocrite", you "know" him well! He he! Still looking for that book you mentioned! The one you remember more than your first kiss! :P Ok...tell me the name again please and the author too! :) |
| M.P. | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 01:07 PM
Poonte, Not being picky or anything...but I think your last sentence should read as: "Iti shree skanda puraane kedaarkhade maaghmahaatme kumaar agaste SAMBAADE sri swasthaani PARAMESHWORI bratakathaaye namaa" :). Actually, it goes something like --bratakathaaye ATA PRATHAMA (or whichever chapter has been finished) ADHYAAYE namaa. I could be wrong; it has been almost 3 years since I read Swasthaani last time. Sorry for the digression, everyone. About Mr/Mrs. Rasta being banned/"usergroup-ied", I would just like to quote Voltaire here: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". If I take someone's right to speak today, someone will take mine tomorrow. To shut someone's mouth, by any other means except awareness, is to put my own right to speak at stake. What's right/wrong, tolerable/not tolerable, interesting/not interesting, reasonable/not reasonable is a matter of personal judgement. My two cents, or better, "thulo kuraa coming from my saano mouth". |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 01:12 PM
didn't Voltaire say "I DISAGREE of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"? I could be wrong but I think not :) |
| ruck | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 01:33 PM
Bichara San ko esto ramro sajha "ghar" ta aba KURUKSHETRA bhai sakyo.. too bad.. EGO EGO EGO.................... :-(( |
| sally | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 01:58 PM
Nevertheless, MP, I imagine that, if every time Voltaire tried to say something, a guy had jumped up and said "ICKSPROTTLE! I AND I WAWA BXPLTX YOU PEOPLE!," Voltaire would have politely arranged for the fellow to be escorted out of the room. |
| czar | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:16 PM
San da Man, All this blah blah ad nauseum must make a man mighty thirsty, especially on Friday. Whaddya say ? Tongba paune bhaa ta..achamley.. :) Tyo server ko power supply ko ek dui wata transistor ma 220 V AC dim ? I have this new step up transformer, so just lemme know. And it will be all my fault too, nagar bhanda bhandai sunya haina bhanera. Two weeks from now restart garumla. Just as the Iraq war start up phase arrives. Cheers ! |
| Poonte | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:21 PM
I still think if we had ignored the person and left him alone, he would have dissipated into the obivion by himself sooner or later, and we would not be indulging in this divisive discussion. Then again, he's gone! Let's rock the boat again! Together!!!! San, what was yours? Johnny Black, eh? NK dijju? How about a Pina Colada this time? BTW...malai ni ass-kisser ko aarop aathyo...uhile...ke ho, feri aja aafai Kissinger bhaying? eheheh...bichara Ashu jyu lai kaukuti lai ra hola land Down Under ma! ;) Cheers! Eh, mora...Czar already passed out? eheheh M.P. jyu...a-a-a-lli alli l-l-agyo...tei pani dhyanyabad for the collection! I-I-I mmmean coRRection! Huh? I-I-I hhhhope I dddid not say eeeeerrection! eheheh Kyarnu, tapain ko 3 barsha bhayechha...mero ta jhan 13 barsha bho ni ganthe! Jai Swasthani mai! |
| Logical Sense | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:45 PM
Old Pancha’s Still Creep in Sajha Democracy! Putting all the bad guys behind bars, and claiming peace in the nation was the motto of Panchas. And those Panchas who cry foul today in Nepal and say these democratic leaders are pathetic we need Kind G on pulling the plug on these. There are many of us who really want to think one supreme that could always take care of us in the event of disaster. So, today’s Rastaman, a ‘bad guy’ got taken care of by San, we applaud loudly, phew, one bad apple out, let us go on with our daily life. Same savior San took care of NK also when she was in grief with many Rastamans in the past. San, you are the man, we salute you. But, here is big BUT from me…… These are all shortsighted democracy. For democracy to work, it takes time, it takes intelligence, it takes sacrifices, it takes vision and it takes hard work. If you do short sighted decision it will haunt you in the long run. Example: NK applauding for saving her by San on unplugging the plug. Similarly all you folks who are happy today for San’s action might repent later on pulling the plugs on you. Where is the limit? Who can decide Rastaman of future is bad? Is talking ‘help Nepal’ going to get pulled? All it will take is many Oys-Chill getting sick of ‘help Nepal’. Is Sitara’s ‘Hajur’ is going to get pulled? Is Jira’s Nepali writing going to get pulled? Is Trikal’s your future is going to get pulled? That said: I admire a lot what San has achieved and he is been doing to Nepalese community. Apparently, I thought it was a good idea to show a ‘Rasta’ to Rastaman, but, thinking it through he was really a harmless person, so, we could have taken similar action as we did with others. Remember, we don’t see that much of profanity in Sajha anymore? We don’t see kid’s naked picture in Sajha anymore? Why? How? When I wrote a column against profanity and minor’s naked photo in Sajha, a lawyer was up with the arms with me citing freedom of speech. But, with clever filtering by San, and shear lack of appetite and repeated appeal and scolding from participants those “posters died their own slow DEMOCRATIC death”. In Conclusion: San’s doing great job, and we definitely need his ability to pull the plug on anyone of us anytime for those of runaway posters among us, but, Rastaman had not gone that far yet. -iti |
| M.P. | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:53 PM
JDV, I have 99% error rate; thanks for the correction. But again, if it was DISAGREE instead of DISAPPROVE, would not the proceeding word be "WITH" and not "OF". Hehehehe...7 class maa Subject+had been+V1+ing+Object bhandai grammar padhyaa ho maile, k bhanthaanyaa? :) :) [Disclaimer: M.P. is not an English teacher]. J bhaye ni thikai chha. San le diyeko 20 posting per day quota maa yo sanga 2 wotaa gaisakyo; aba 18 wotaa maatrai baaki chha--dherai bolnu hunna :) Sally, You could be right. I guess this is what people call a separation of ideology from ground zero realities. What San did is probably right. However, if Rasta II (to make Rasta the escapegoat here) props up from somewhere two months later with slightly different behavior, what will San do? How will San decide whether Rasta II should be banned? If San can maintain constitency with his action--so that *majority* approves what he does, I have nothing against what he did now. I personally think that by banning (?) some individual, San is making his own job harder. As Logical Sense says, "it might hunt [San and all of us] in the long run." I have nothing against Voltaire escorting his belligerent guest out of V's room, but what I am worried is his doing so might discourage some other people--like Rasta--who might have a message that they want to give but are unable to convey at once for reasons of their own. I am not defending Rasta though. Ignoring would have been the best solution, as Poonte, "the I and I", says. Poonte, 13 barsa samma swasthaani ko stotra yaad chha? Photographic memory raichha. Tyo Navaraaj laai maalaa lagaaidine haatiko naam k thiyo? :):) |
| Bitchpatroll | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 02:57 PM
Whut up ma peeps ? Ha ha ha ! Man this is funny. why on earth are you people victimizing San ? He has done nothing...If people had not Bitched and complained about Rasta he would not have blocked him. But Y'all are acting as if Rasta did not deserve it at all..For every action has its reaction(for -ve action= -ve reaction +ve action=+rve reaction). All the changes he made at this site was due to visitor's request. Community only wanted registered posters-San said So be it, Community wanted Mr Agrawal Banned=San said so be it, Same with Rasta people asked and there we go...Half of the time ma peoples didn't understand a single word he uttered in jibberish and all y'all who complained speak up yo. Stand by yo webmaster...This Nk character is funny....if people are kissing her ass and talking about her poems and her literature..its all perfume and roses. I still remember when she came here to spill her guts out and later wondered where people got all her info...Duh!!! Please do not be a hypocrite thank you.... |
| joie de vivre | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:01 PM
M.P., given my grammar, you'd have been better off being right :) |
| czar | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:16 PM
Poonte, Mero khali badnaam garney jaandiya ko aarop lagayera ? Yo ta ali seema paar bho. Computer ma bhaa jatti sabai plug tandinchu, ani yallow tyausi ko spark plug pani tandinchu, distributor ko rotor ko plug pani taan dinchu, Oxygen sensor ko pani plug tandinchu, kitchen sink ko plug pani unplug gardinchu..timro bar ko beer barrel pani unplug garidinchu... lajja ta. |
| san | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:24 PM
Facts: Rastaman posted over 35 postings - all of which essentially say the same thing - in one day, which prompted me to make a statement regarding monopolizing the site. Despite personal email asking to NOT monopolize, Rastaman continues to bombard the board with similar postings, so far he has 9 other usernames such as Jah, Natty, Nattydread, catch-a-fire, etc. in the hope of beating the system imposed disabled usernames and limits. When contacted personally, he responded saying "I and I was just testing how progressive your site was". When a temporary ban was imposed on his domain. He sent multiple emails supposedly from more than one person, asking to remove the ban on their host because they miss sajha.com so much from work cuz they are bored at work blah blah, but the electronic message contained the source information showing they all originated from one single IP address. Thus an attemp to mislead myself. Even tho, I realized it was all this one single person doing it, I removed the ban and brought up the Usergroup info, hoping he might take my offer and we could co-exist. BUT still he continued to register more names and post the same routine to the main sajha kurakani. This is the story behind the active banning of Rastaman. I am not a big fan of banning someone from the site, but if someone shows active determination to break the values and rules of this site, it's hasta la vista baby. The rest, it's a pleasure having you in sajha. As always, I am always open for suggestions and comments. This has been a constant source of entertainment for me as well as a lot of you. I don't take anything personally from this or anything in a negative way, this is simply a hobby that has grown big over time and I still love every minute of it! Have a nice weekend! |
| Logical Sense | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:31 PM
Amen! I rest my 'Rastaman' case right here. Thank you San for enlighting us with the facts and the grief you had to go through!!!! -iti |
| Najar | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:34 PM
san should perhaps say: yeda yedahi kuraknisya glanirbhawati sajhapur abhyuthhanam akurankinisya sambhawami tyam tyam :-) don't ask for translation, nor byakhya. This is a self-promotion attempt (pretentious knowledge of sanskrit). Bujhne lai phool ko maala nabuhjne lai kehi na kehi :) |
| Suna | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:34 PM
Pathetic how a person who runs the site/pays for the service/volunteers his free time so that he along with HUNDREDS of others can enjoy company, art, literature blah blah blah has to offer an explanation as to WHY he did what he did. YAH YAH I know what you people are thinking of - its a public site blah blah blah yakkity yak yak yak...BUT bottom line = its YOUR SITE SAN and YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. Kahiley kahi laat pani launa parcha kya!! |
| forget-me-not | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 03:41 PM
sounds great.. M.P. Ji hajur kata ho? Darshan pauna garho bhayo ni???? ke ma busy ho???? Mati khojne bile bho ki ka ho???. |
| dire_omen | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 04:38 PM
you know what "Rastaman" stands for?? ASTAMAN R for Racist: RASTAMAN says racism is all done by THEM people, and that is absolute racist point of view. Ok, many of the THEM people are racist. I am one of THEM. By denouncing the physical appereance of THEM people, no good is done.(for example when he said: "THEM people with long pointed nose with hair growing from ears") I have full respect for you people. If you are of Mongolian Origin, let me tell you, I went to a school where they taught Tibetan, understand? Ming Kha-re, RASTAMAN?? A for Anarchist: RASTAMAN wants to bring revolutionary and radical changes in Nepal -- he wants to change the lifestyles of "I" people, and the racially discriminated people of the past. Ok, your views are excellent, I appriciate it. However, how are you going to do that if you want to supress the Brahamins and Kshetriyas?? Did you know that THEM people are almost 20 percent of the population? With all due respect, I ask you these question. S for Solitude I guess RASTAMAN is in Solitude, for his views and tolorences are so oldish. Well, as they say:"old is gold", old views and philosophies are good in many aspects, and way of thinking is sometimes bad also. I always hated racism. I am not racist, sexist, ethnocentric, and nor am I ethnicist. FYKI -- I have more of Gurung, Sherpa, Lama, Tsering, etc friends than I have of Bhattarai, Bhandari, Koirala, Thapa, Singh,etc. T for THEM people " When me people were fighting in Burma, Malaya, what were THEM people doing? ;" That was said, by RASTAMAN in one of the threads. Ok, you people faught the war. That was a great accomplishment for Nepal, and Nepalese people. Forget old days, talk about the present moment: Why do more of your people join the British Gurkha Army?? Answer: Service for the Queen means more money, Greencard in Amrika, Gori mem etc, etc. Why aren't you people in Politics? When you brilliant people go away to war for another country, what will happen to Nepal? It will surely be controlled by THEM people, wouldn't it? Read between lines, RASTAMAN. A for Arrogant and rude RASTAMAN's words are really insulting and rude...especially for physical appearences. Ok, there is freedom of speech in Sajha, but that doesn't mean that you start mocking people about apperrences! That is rude! MAN for MANiac of Sajha You, Anand Agrawal, Bheda have polluted Sajha. Rest for a while! ------------------------------- Dire_Omen P.S. Change your writing style, RASTAMAN, it, in simple words "SUCKS!" Today's dire omen: "RASTAMAN being mocked by dire_omen, what goes around, comes around!" |
| PremPujari | Posted
on 17-Jan-03 06:30 PM
Sanjyu, Je Bho Ramrai Bho!!! Those Facts provided by San made things clear. It is just bullsome to prolong the argument after that. Like hamro Logic jyu said, case closed!! About Ass kissin', Kossailai Jyu, hazur, ji, bhandai ma, kasai ko taarif gardaima ass kissin' hudaina jasto yo PP ko magaaz ma "dimaag" aa cha. Ass kissin' garera faidaa pani ta hunu paryo ni. Sajha ko taruni jatti sappailai jatti Jyu, hazur bhane pani uni haru le DATE ma laanewala chainaan. Kuro kasaar ko dallo jasto khasro cha, but the fact is the fact. SanJyu lai jatti so-called-asskissin' garepani, San le Niagra-Mohawk-electricity-bill tirdaina. NK jyu lai jatti chaakari bajaaye pani, Taalu Ko restaurant ma "Rambha ho ho, Sambha ho ho" nagaai mukh ma maad laagdaina. So these accusation of so-called Ass kissin' doesn't make sense to me>> kosailai laagcha bhana khabar paam, ma chintan-manan garchu. I'd rather go kiss Taalu ko ass. Kamse kam raise ta milla., hoina ta? $5.25 bata $5.50. Ki kaso? Baru tyo school ko teacher lai garchu, Grade C bata B ma ta pugla. ki kaso? Yesto cyber-chakadi-chaplushi (CCC) bata Faida hunenai ke ho ra????? Tai pani kasai kasai ko kina "PWAAA SHYATTA" bhaa ho??? Faida ke ta? It's been four years I've been roaming around in various Nepali chatroom's and forum boards, and I haven't met any chatters or the Posters in my real life (Well to tell you the truth, I've met a few in ANA conventions past few years, but it was just Hi, hello -- I didn't really hang out with them. They didn't buy me a beer, and I didn't spend a penny on them, or maybe I did? Maybe I bought a drink to one girl hehehe ani ullle farkera feri herena :( hehe... >>> so most of the posters may remain just a nick-name for me. Nothing more than that. I wish and I hope that all of us sajhaities (sajha registered members sounds great) will meet someday, at some point. Chances are, I might meet some of the Posters someday in my life. And the chances are we might never run into each other in our entire life. So, ahile bhetya belama Masti garihaalau..... aru bhanya dekha jaayega.... Anyway, Those who get Praise and respect from other posters, I have only 3 words to say... "Just Take It". You don't get praise and respect everyday in your real Life, or even in your CYBER life. Don't give "praise and respect" a bad name. Katti lekhechu hehehe!!! Alka-Seltzer laagya jasto cha!!! Kossaile padhne bhayenan... hehe!!! Anyway PARTY TYAAAM, mula poo dai, afu afu matrai San jyu ra NK jyu sanga basera daaru tancha. Laaz lagdaina?? Czar jyu, you need help to unplug that spark plug from Poo dai ko tyaushi??? Ma aau? Renchu bokera???? Baru Poo dai, malai chai Brandy chahincha yaar, hehehe... Khapparu Ruga-Khoki le Ryaag garyaaaa cha ke....!!!! San jyu, Baru tyo 9 wota ta hoina, 5-6 wota Name register ta mero ni cha jasto laagyo malai. Afaai lai kantha chaina kun kun naam mero bhanera (I use only one name at a time though). Katai Rasta pachi ko TARGET ma ta hoina??? Where is my Helmet and Kawach and Kachaura??? Ta ta saarai nai bigris ni PP. Ima save maa butt!!! PP> |
| SITARA | Posted
on 18-Jan-03 10:02 AM
PP ji I agree with you....99.99999% as always....you make sense! San ji has made a request based on his own experiences and on other people's annoyance. As gracious as he has been, one would only hope that the Sajha posters would be courteous enough to consider the request. I thought, one form of democracy was to listen to the voice of the majority...Hasn't San abided by that? So don't go drawing a parallel between San and King G. ........Kasto waiyat kura! Tyo Poonte lai.... I heard that you are in DC ke ho, hajur??? :) |
| NK | Posted
on 18-Jan-03 01:19 PM
EPILOGUE Sitara, even in this chaotic affair, you don't forget to compliment a fellow writer on her writing! You truly are amazing. I looked for your "zennist" kabita up and down, here and there, above, and everywhere but could not find it. Is the Potomac river redy for me?? :)) Paschim, nice to see you. It is a relief to see you in your new (well kinda old actually) avataar here and there. James Bond: Some advice. If you must read a page from a history book, first make sure you can read the word. Decoding. The first step in literacy. Somehow along the way either you have forgotten how to read or you cunningly chose to misread it. I have never asked San to "take Care" of somebody because that person or persons were after me. That I am 100 percent sure of!! And, you made me sound like some mob boss and San my hit man!! What a riot, if I may say so!! **** This website was built by San. This site is maintained by San. This site gets edited (time to time) by San. This site is flourishing. This site is arguably the most popular Nepali site or so I have heard and I have every reason to believe so. This site is fun and sometimes educational. AND MOST of the credit goes to SAN. Because of his stamina, his technology know how, his relentless pursuit to excellence, and his intelligence has made this site what it is. Now, flip that coin. On the other side: it has readers and posters and contributors. They contribute in their own way to make this sit such a phenomenon. THAT, my dear readers make this a non-home. This is not a private residence of San. This home analogy has been stretched a bit too far if you ask me. You don’t open your door to every punk who happens to pass by. And that includes me too, of course. You don’t ask assistance to public (normally) to maintain and upkeep your house. On the contrary, this is place where a plethora of people who are like me and unlike me come together and form a community. It is communal. It is a community site, not a home page or a home. San knows that. Just look at his mission statement. Because of this, San feels compel to come out from his hide-out time-to-time to justify, rectify, pasify the public when questions arise. If he did not feel that he was answerable to us – to the community, to the Sajha people he would not have done so. Am I right? If it were a private residence, quite a few people would not have gained access. Even after entering you would have asked to leave if the mistress of the house found you repungent, offensive and so on or just plain ungrateful. San being a wiz, he keeps this community sane- for the most part. (99.9%) With his timely intervention and sometimes non-intervention. And comes in ‘Rastaman.’ When I called him a despot in my original posting I was questioning his method to “eliminate” or say, Ghettonize (is there such a word?) some individuals. What is the parameter? When does one stop being funny? When does one start being annoying? How many emails and public warning does one need before she is sent to never land? When somebody called ‘Bithcpatrol’ roams free, hounding one individual day in day out, posting after posting and yet, yet he is still alive and kicking in the Sajha land, I question the judgement of a judge. As a reader and writer of this site my expectation and judgement may not be in sync with the site administration. That is fine by me. But, in a democracy one can and should voice her opinion, no? Tetti ho. M.P., Khaja Biscuit, Logical Sense and maybe Harris: Thank you for seeing some truth in my original posting. [note to San: San, my friend, if you did not like what I have just said here, (don’t forget I am typing from the keyboard you donated me J) you are welcome to post your answer. I won’t be responding. Not because I don’t trust my belief but because the enormous time it takes to read and respond and read and respond. If you incline so, I will make dinner and we can talk over the dinner. My husband thinks I owe you a dinner for calling you a despot when I made a mistake to tell him what was going on in my virtual world] [note 2: Since this is an epilogue, for me this gatha ends here. Next time different issue different debate] [note 3: Bitchpatrol, I don’t read your posting. I have seen your posting concerning one individual and I don’t like your hysterical posting towards that indidual. You, padre, are indecent, offensive, and blood-thirsty.] ps Poonte: My respect. Prem Pujari and Czar: What are you all doing next weekend? I am going to be in your shahar and would love to meet you all over a drink (or two). |
| NK | Posted
on 18-Jan-03 01:26 PM
I forgot to write the most important line of my posting: ' I was not looking at the issue 'freedom of speech.' It was about the judgement. As I said, seemingly arbitrariness of the judgement. This line shoul precede the line ".... when I called him a despot..." |
| Poonte | Posted
on 20-Jan-03 10:10 AM
Behind-the-scenes testo testo hooree-bataas chali raako raichha, ani...la, je bho ramrai bho :) Kuro khalaas! Sallae, herana sathi ho...ma hapta bhari padera weekend ma esso dui-char paisa kamaundai pet paali ra...yespali yesso gayera mero tyausi start garchhu ta...marae start hunna baa! Hood kholera hereko ta, kassam hola...kun paapi dushta moro ko kodi lageko haat ho, kunni? Na spark plugs chha, na oxygen censor plugs chha, na distributor ko rotor plugs chha...kya ho? Dem people don't like to see I and I work hard and make some dough, or wot? eheheheh ;) Mula, PP...Brandy re? kalle sikako? niu matra chahinchha hai, rakshi piuna lai? Rugha-khoki laachha re? La, timlai ma Thera Flu banaidinchhu...ki aduwa, kagati, maha ra besaar haleko taat-tato pani piune? Brandy re, bajjeeya :P |
| Poonte | Posted
on 20-Jan-03 10:18 AM
NK dijju! Hamro shahar lai ni ujyalo banaidine re yo weekend ma? Khushi lagyo... I will be working long hours on Saturday and Sunday, but if you're in by Friday, then perhaps we can get together on Friday evening. VV lai ni bhanam na! Ani...a drink (or two) re???? Are we talking about bottles here? I hope so! ;) SITZ dijju, Hajur, ma DC ma thiyen...aja antai chhu...bharai kahan hunchhu, ke thaha...yo autari ko jindagi... :) (Kyaaaa majja aunchha yaar...taalu khuileko budeshkaal ma at least dui jana lai dijju bhanna paayinchha Sajha ma...tesai NepalNews ko chat room chhodya ho, maile?) |
| Bitchpatroll | Posted
on 21-Jan-03 12:07 PM
Truth Hurts don't it ? I merely stating facts from the past. I had a problem with that individual when he tried to take advantage of this site for their personal benefit. And I do not read your wanna be writer articles, poems or knick knacks too. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 21-Jan-03 12:16 PM
Poonte ji kyaaaaaaa pung na pucchar ko saino lagayeko hajur! ;) dijju re....chinnoo na jannoo.... :) hehe! About that balding spot... I could give you one pau of kapal and krazy glue...and a glass of witche's brew! :P |
| PremPujari | Posted
on 21-Jan-03 10:02 PM
SITARA jyu, Ma ta hazur le sajha BYE BYE garya jasto laagya ni hehe!! Hazur aaunu bho, nice to see you again!! (kun chai murrmurrri raa hola, Ass kissin' garyo bhanera heheh) Raat bhari baduli laagne bho... hehe Anit-asskisser le samjhine bho ki kaso baaduli laagne bho laagne bho lau malaai!! kun chaai ko ganthaan le Raat bhaaari sutne bhai na niiiii!!!! LOL!!! |
| czar | Posted
on 22-Jan-03 08:30 PM
During a brief idle moment, I logged into Sajha chat this afternoon. Some of the usual suspects were present, including moi. What dismayed me was that San da Man and his sidelining you-know-who still merited discussion, with San present. To start with, I take my hat off in admiration to San for, among other things, having the compassion to bear fools gladly. The crux of the matter is that any netadmin must look to the greater good of the system. Should there be a disturbance, he/she must deal with it swiftly and without hesitation. Disable their user account immediately. Thats rule No. 1. Why? No Netadmin can afford to hum and haw these days. Its simply too dangerous; your network can be history in very short order if you lose vigilance or lower your guard. You don’t often get a second chance either. Any user with half a bad intent can cause havoc. That’s exactly what happened to NN, it was hacked and crashed. The technology is out there for anyone who cares to do it. Was you-know-who such a threat? Irrelevant. Anyone gets a little too uppity and they’re history. Goombye, goombah. Take it or leave it. Yet San, being generous, gave an opportunity, even then. He deserves praise and appreciation for it. Am I being paranoid and over reacting? Damn right I am. I’ve watched networks being attacked 24x7. For disbelievers, check out a firewall log or talk to your net security team. If not, welcome to the world of cyber security policy. Also, does anyone here want to clean up the mess and bear the consequences, and price, if someone should decide to wreck this place? Pleas step forward. San, please take note and draw up an agreement for them to sign. Plus a financial instrument for $ 100,000. Let there be no mistake about it: there is mal intent out there in the world. There is NO Crystal Ball to check out anyone who comes to this site. San as an OWNER & ADMINISTRATOR will do as he sees fit for OUR good. So, cut the crap already people. ENOUGH. |