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| mirador |
Posted
on 22-Jan-03 03:10 AM
The one man running Nepal and we know so little about him! Where did he go to school? Did he graduate? What are his businnesses? How wealthy is his family? What does he do all day? Does he have friends?
Is there an official/unofficial biography I could get my hands on?
Anything on this alleged son of god we call our King. Please!
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| vivid |
Posted
on 22-Jan-03 09:24 AM
Mirador ji,
You can read his biography at nepalnews.com under the section 'Royal biographies', just below 'FOREX TODAY'.
Hope you will get what you are looking for.
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| mirador |
Posted
on 23-Jan-03 08:57 PM
Thank you vivid.
I have few more questions to ask to my compats. Does anyone know what the last constitution had to say about Mr. Gyanendra (i.e. the role of the king)? I am also wondering if anyone knows whither lies the last constitution wrt the recent coup d'etat...
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 12:11 AM
mirador,
He is not Mr. Gyanendra. Since, you seem to be well versed in Political Science, you should learn how to address the King, if you don't know, here's how you address the King:
His Majesty or His Majesty the King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah (informal) and His Majesty the King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev [Sarkar] (official)
Now, the role of His Majesty according to the Constitution of Nepal, 2047:
4 articles 20, 35, 127 and 128 are the ones you need to look into.
Article 20 states that His Majesty is the "preserver" of this constitution.
Article 35 of the Constitution states that the executive powers lie with His Majesty and the Cabinet: " Karyakarini adhikar Shri Panch ma ra mantrimandal ma nihit hunecha"
Article 127 states that His Mahesty can use this article to remove obstacles--if there's any--in following this constitution.
Article 128 states that His Majesty can form an all party governmnet.
Much have been written and said regarding the asoj-18 move. BTW, its not a coup. Coup is something totally different.
His Majesty the King, in accorddance with the constitution of Nepal (article 20, 127 and 35) removed Deuba.
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| kalanidhi |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 12:50 AM
Miradorji,
Here is his Picture of King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev.
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| Torpe |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 01:34 AM
Ani Mirador,
Like some of the Sajha basis here, you can hang this dude's picture on your bedroom and worship him every morning and evening.
There have been several discussions here on this forum about the constitutional rightness of this dude's October 4 move. San might be able to help you locate those topics.
You might want to watch out for people spreading pro-monarchist sentiments-- likely for their own benefit. As you might have already noticed, those people who think this dude is not an Avatar of Vishnu and that he and his institution have done more bad than good to the country have talked enough about why the institution of monarchy should go. It most likely that they are not in a position/motive to come forward and refute every illogical argument put forth in favor of the monarchy. This dude, after all, is not their God. This is someone they--actually you and me--have been forced to accept as their/our ruler.
We have been brainwashed enough by the institution of monarchy in the name of nationalism, culture and what not. I wish these chamches left us alone for a while so that we could think on our own.
Torpe (TP)
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 06:48 AM
Before I rush to the toilet and vomit, here is what my translated copy our 1990 Constitution (poor, battered soul if you ask me) actually says about the Raja's authority:
Article 27: HM is to protect and preserve the Constitution *by* keeping in view the best interests and welfare of the people of Nepal.
Article 35 (ii): *Except* as otherwise expressly provided as to be exercised exclusively by HM [such as laws on succession to the throne by Paras Shah and his son or other descendants]…the powers of this constitution shall be exercised upon the recommendation and advice and with the consent of the Council of Ministers.
Article 127: HM may issue necessary orders to remove any difficulty that arises in connection with the implementation of the Constitution *and* such orders shall be laid before parliament.
Article 128 (i): The [1991] Council of Ministers (headed by KP Bhattarai) shall be deemed to have been constituted under this constitution.
Article 128 (ii): *If* for any reason the cabinet referred to above in clause 1 is dissolved, HM shall constitute a new council of ministers consisting of representatives from the main political parties.
Enough, I should think. Pointless to hem and haw. Useless to revisit the same issue for the umpteenth time on Sajha, but sometimes it just seems as necessary as it is to vomit, with Adnan Sani’s melodious “Tera Chehara” playing in the background.
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 07:59 AM
Okay, that was healthy...
Strange times I must say -- I am getting closer to accepting the three things that I thought I'd never be inclined to:
1. Girija Prasad Koirala finally makes sense at the grand age of 80?
http://www.kantipuronline.com/Nepal/Nepalmag.htm
2. For purposes of form as well as substance, "Republic of Nepal" sounds better than "Nepal Adhiraajya"?
3. Green lettuce is food, and Julia Roberts can act?
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| Suna |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 08:19 AM
Paschim!!
3. ma alik malai chitta parena..politics is wayyyyyyyy over my head!
Julia Roberts can act!! Erin Brocovich(sp?) ....hellow....what were you focusing on?? I was focusing on her acting! :)
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| mirador |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 01:32 PM
Being new to Sajha, I was unaware of the multiple discussions that apparently took place in this forum about Mr. Allmighty Raja. My apologies for bringing it up again, although I think its worthwhile to talk about the King and his rights as long as he keeps on abusing them.
Thank you Paschim for the translation. Now I wish I had my own copy of it...
>>Article 35 (ii): *Except* as otherwise expressly provided as to be exercised exclusively by HM [such as laws on succession to the throne by Paras Shah and his son or other descendants]…the powers of this constitution shall be exercised upon the recommendation and advice and with the consent of the Council of Ministers.
I'm no legal expert but didn't the king violate the constitution sacking Mr. Deuba without the advice and without the consent of the Council of Minissters?
>>Article 127: HM may issue necessary orders to remove any difficulty that arises in connection with the implementation of the Constitution *and* such orders shall be laid before parliament.
So has the king laid "such orders" before the parliament. It was the lower house of the parliament that was dissolved. The upper house still exists, doesn't it? Isnt't this blatantly unconstitutional?
It saddens me that one "rakshak" of the constitution has no respect for it, which would mean that he has no respect either for the people who wanted it in the first place...
But I digress. I want to how much he is worth in terms of dollars and cents. Since, apparently, he is not worth much in humane measures. Is the palace's balance sheet even existent?
so many questions...
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| hangu lama |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 01:45 PM
cool song...
KILL the KING - rainbow
Danger, danger the Queen's about to kill
There's a stranger, stranger and life about to spill
Oh no move me out of harm
I need a spell and a charm
Fly like the wind
I'm no pawn, so be gone, speed on and on
Kill the King
Tear him down
Chorus:
Kill the King
Strike him down
Power, power it happens every day
Power, devour all along the way
Oh no move me out of harm
I need a spell and a charm
Fly like the wind
I'm no pawn, so be gone, speed on and on
Kill the King
Treason, treason, the spectre looms again
Treason, reason, the realm is safe and then
Oh no move away from harm
I need a spell and a charm
Fly like the rainbow
I'm no pawn, so be gone, speed on and on
Chorus:
Kill the King
Tear him down
Kill the King
Got to take his crown
Chorus:
Kill the King
He'll rule no more
Strike him dead
The people roar
Kill the King
Take his head
Down, down, down, down
Oh, kill, oh, kill, oh, oh
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 08:06 PM
Suna, haven't seen Erin B. yet -- but she seems equipped with talent and other assets!
Mirador, exactly my point, and I'm with you. With San's help, you might locate some 500 postings on this issue from October/November. This Raja's direct rule has today crossed its 120th day (yes, I'm counting), and it's getting worse every day.
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| Torpe |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 09:08 PM
"Talent and OTHER ASSETS!"
San....move this topic to the "sex" usergroup!
And Erin B. "seems equipped with talent and other assets!" to Paschim although Paschim has NOT SEEN HER. Uh..uh..something strange going on here. Paschim, are you still drunk ? :)
And Gyanuchaa is a cool dude. Don't make fun of him. There are people worshipping him; don't embarrass them. "Rou ra haasna deu"!!
TP
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 09:14 PM
Torpe, are you talking about Erin or Julia? or Julia as Erin?
I'm talking about Julia the person, and Erin the movie poster!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 24-Jan-03 10:38 PM
Torpe,
Yeah, he can hang that picture and worship just as you hang congressi leaders pic and worship them every morning.
This is funny:
Torpe says to mirador :
You might want to watch out for people spreading pro-monarchist sentiments-- likely for their own benefit.
and I say, well, mirador, you might want to watch out for people spreading republican crap--likely for their own benifit.
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| kalanidhi |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 08:31 AM
Isoleted freakji,
HA HA HA HA
You are absulutely right !!
King is the only one person who can save the Nepal. It is not about the spreading pro-monarchist sentiments or republican crap, this is the time to save our country.
We don't wan't to see nepal as Bhutan. We have history that political leaders made some major decisions favouring India. Still Nepal is suffering with that.
If something happens to Nepal, all the party leaders will start washing dhoti of Indian Prime Minister. There will be only one leader who will not do that and will fight for country " Our King".
Kalanidhi
UC Berkeley
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| Tick |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 09:15 AM
Kalanidhi ji,
Amen!
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| rajunpl |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 09:26 AM
I have seen many hoax in nepalnews.Somebody said to me there was a news of birendra killing in nepalnews before he died.I don't give shi*t to the constitution of nepal. When I went to make my passport Rs 5000 work there not the constitution.When my collegue fight for 2nd Lt. 2 laks work there not the constitution.When there was a boarding check in KTM my fellow officer work there not the constitution.When I reach overseas £/$ work there in ne embassy nat the ambassador.
Then what is this constitution sh*t about.Me personally have no idea who run the nepal.THey said girija rule and the other said party rule.Nepalnews says King G rule but he said constitution of nepal and the nepalese citizen rule.I am also a part of the citizen but I never ruled the money I achieved after hard work ruled.
Those nepalese citizen are ruled by the hoax.They waiting for another hoax when they don't believe it.Aren't they fool?
Nepal is ruled by the ghost.
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| Takura |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 11:17 AM
Pachim,
2 out of 3 things you said were wrong.
Girija is a cheap, coward, liar, and greedy batard who would do and say anything to get his regime back. I hate all those 'koiralas' whose names are associated with Girija.
I don't think we need politicians in Nepal. We need some intellctual individuals to run the country who have no interest in politics and its dirty games.
And, Julia Roberts 'can' act. Her biggest 'assest' is acting.
Ciao!
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| sagarmatha |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 12:12 PM
>>How wealthy is his family?
Much much wealthier than average yours or mine. His annual family expenses paid by Nepal's government is Rs. 38,000,000, which is almost equal to the development expenses "Bikash kharcha" alloted by Kathmandu Municipality for hundreds of thousands families.
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| mirador |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 04:42 PM
Thank you Sagarmatha!
I believe you but I would appreciate if you could also post the source of your information so anyone interested can verify it.
What about the alleged bussinesses he owns? Does anyone see a conflict of interests that might arise when an active monarch indulges in money making ventures?
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| Devil's Advocate |
Posted
on 25-Jan-03 06:08 PM
Maybe it was the year 95-96, windsor castle in Great Britain was damaged by a huge fire,and immediately John Major announced that the castle will be renovated and the tax payer will pay for it,the cost was in millions of pounds,and an outraged taxpayer said that "when the castle stood it was theirs,and when it's fallen it's ours".I guess that makes sense.But.....we aren't talkin abt Britain here,it's Nepal.
Nepal is a bit complex(Including Madhav kumar Nepal,let's call him jackass or simply asshole).Lata le pani bujhne bhasa ma bhanda democracy le hamro muluk ma ill affect bahek kehi pani lyaena,neta ko kahalak lai matra poshayo,ma jasto youth haru(although i call myself a loser for leavin my country in the time of need)le nepal ma future dekhna chodyo.Honestly i used envy my frens drivin cars when i was busy kickin my Motorbike,they drove that just becoz their dad worked as secrataries,their mom was in custom or their father was an MP.Doesn't this stink?I truly love the spirit of democracy but this is not what we dreamt of,so as a simple logic and a true confession from a 23 year old yasto khate haru le desh khanu bhanda ta raja le khako nai besh and the great thing abt monarchy is neta le bholi chance auncha ki audaina bhanera chance ma dance garla tara monarchy ta legacy ho,so every step the king takes is taken with lots and lots of precaution.Jai desh jai naresh.
P.S. yo padne communist sathi haru le yasle madhav nepal lai matra gali garyo bhanla,girja is a bigger asshole.ha...ha..ha
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