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Posted
on 06-Feb-03 10:57 AM
Yet another piece of article by Dr. Baburam Bhattarai in Nepalipost.com
Please click on link below:
http://www.nepalipost.com/discussion.html#72
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 06-Feb-03 12:27 PM
Baburam has noticeably softened his rhetoric. Maoists keep saying none of their responsible leaders met with the lion/jackle in the narayanhiti. So may be some irresponsible leader(s) from their camp met the king, who knows :). I am willing to agree that perhaps Baburam or Prachanda or Badal did not meet the king but someone probably met the big boss in narayanhiti on their (Maoists') behalf. Maoist leadership may not be quite stupid enough to visit the boss in narayanhiti a night before and declare the ceasefire the next day. They (the Maoist leadership) has a substantial following and they quite understand the disturbance that may arise because of their any cordial interaction with "reactionary" forces or let me say THE reactionary force.
One surprisingly noticeable thing that have surfaced out of this cease-fire, to me, is the inclusion of baburam and badal in the maoist team for negotiation (with the blessing, of course, from Prachanda). Prachanda is calling GPK , Makune, and Bijuksche and briefing them what's going on. There is no need to brief RPP and NSP because they are already having dinner and champagne with them (Maoists). No one is saying much about the open and cruel assassination of APF chief, his wife, and another police officer. I am pretty much convinced that the life of the chief, his wife, and other officer along with thousands of other Nepalis have gone in vain. The only people who will directly benefit from this so called "peoples' war" and the cease-fire are the Maoists leadership and the king. Yes, the peace may return once the dust settles but how long will that last? Not much. Aother group of forest or cave bound comrades will shape up again. What programs are there to uplift the socio-economic situation of the nation? The possible return of peace to the land is just a status-quo situation. With this so-called peoples war, only thing common citizens got so far is fear or insecurity. Don't get me wrong here, I support the cease-fire. However, what happens to the reasons the Maoists were fighting, at least what they said, the peoples' war for? They just duped us.
Just wait and see, in couple of years, these Maoist leadership will be no different than of today's UML. No, these Maoists will never be as big as UML but they will also be a nakkali communist leaders as of UML. The source of these maoists revenue such as looting and forceful donations will be extinguished. Like the Maoist leadership, like the UML leadership, will regularly visit narayanhiti for darshan-vet.
Padma ratna says it was the king who intervened and brought our top red comrades to the table. So much for the peoples' war and anti-monarchy rhetoric of the Maoists.
King won.
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| najar |
Posted
on 06-Feb-03 12:41 PM
Sparshaji,
Good to see you back! Very articulate analysis. I agree with you regarding the BRB article on the nepalipost--he sounds much laid back than his previous writings, and uses carefully weighed words that could be percieved in different ways.
I guess time will demystify the real agenda,real players and the real strategy sometime soon-- at least lets hope it does.
May this ceasefire not prove--hatti aayo hatti aayo fussa.
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 06-Feb-03 01:20 PM
Folks,
The Maoists sing different tunes to different audiences...they are the master propagandists who have managed to fool everyone, all of the time. While BRB (Dr. No) is writing soothing lines for our frayed nerves, just read C.P. Gagurel's article in The Kathmandu Post yesterday...he still sounds very militant and there is no sign that this cease fire is sincere. He basically says: The Nepali people and everyone wanted us to go into ceasefire, so we did it. If the Nepali people want us to go to war, we will also do that. Like a good Maoists, he of course reserves the right to interpret the will of the Nepali people at his own convenience!
Om Shanti!
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 06-Feb-03 02:19 PM
Najarji,
thanks. I am not lost, from sajha that is. No not yet.
Shuva chintak ji,
Baburam has to draft different speech for different audience. Such differences in speech are recognizable. He can't change his radical rhetoric over night. That could be fatal, he knows it. Bauram's radical speech/article is his hallmark and an indispensable asset to him. He will redirect that rhetoric somewhere else if things work out the way he wants. Baburam will no longer be a baburam if he starts talking like Makune or KP oli (you have to struggle to hear them from 20 ft away). I have not read the article you are referring to but I see a major flaw on the following statement you have summarized "He basically says: The Nepali people and everyone wanted us to go into ceasefire, so we did it. If the Nepali people want us to go to war, we will also do that." I am not saying you have summarized the article/statement with a flaw. As I have mentioned above, I have not read the article in question so obviously I won't be able to determine whether the summary is valid. Anyway, if baburam says "the nepali people and every one wanted us to go into ceasefire, so we did. If the nepali people want us to go to war, we will also do that.." I see him making fun of himself, his ideologies, his boss, comrades, lathaits, and us (yes, "us" who are not his boss, comrade or lathait) as well. What mandate does he have to be a spokesperson for the entire mass of Nepali people? People always wanted peace. Did he not know that earlier? And, what does he mean by "the nepali people and everyone". Everyone? And yeah, we wanted the war all these years and he was representing our wishes. My &^%!
He did not come to the table because he cared what we want but because what he or his top-level group wants. I don't think he gives much damn to those grass root comrades who walk with hammer and crescent red hair bands, dream of unknown Mao while sleeping under the shadow of death, and constantly take the leadership with high regard as if the leadership is their eternal guide. Little do those sincere grass root maobadis (not all are cruel, I believe) know their masters are slaves to other masters but alas! Not to them. The leadership is guided by the hope of recognition and consolidation of power to put itself at the top, below the monarchy though.
Neither Bauram nor any other top-level red comrade is sorry for the state our nation is in. They just see our developmental infrastructures as the targets for destruction. The maoist leadership has played games with our sentiments and has repeatedly exploited our frustration and has tried to lead with fear. The leadership came to the table not for us, not for chand, not for their comrades but for themselves and for the king. They're like a mateko hatti and the king is the mauthe. Mateko hattiko dhangsa ta dekhi halekai ho. Let's see how the hatti responds to the mauthe!
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| tick |
Posted
on 06-Feb-03 11:52 PM
ha.. blame the king for bringing peace. you guys have no respect for peace, no appreciation for leadership, no understanding of the life-death struggle.
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| forget-me-not |
Posted
on 07-Feb-03 01:32 AM
najar mero najar hajur tira..hajur ko najar chai..article tira...bichara ma..:)
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| prawin |
Posted
on 07-Feb-03 02:11 AM
this cease-fire is fated to be nothing more than a "Hatti aayo, hatti aayo--fussa." the nature in which this decision has been reached is a bed for seeds of evil already.
it is unrealistic ti imagine that absolute force, by either the Monarchy or the Maoists [for they are the only key players as of yet] would have ever, or will ever bring an agreeable conclusion to the conflict.
the Monarchy has agreed upon the Maoists' initial [four] demands and created fresh opportunities for political uncertainties to spring. each of the four demands conceded is inherently a potential for future chaos.
the basic political argument that the Maoists made during their armed struggle was the demand for the capacity of the people to change the constitution as the people see fit. they can no longer remain a legitimate political voice if they drop this demand, but in negotiating with the monarchy they will 1] either drop this demand, 2] or insist upon the fulfillment of this demand.
if they drop this demand, they will have no choice but to go back to the jungle and fight, just to keep their status as a political voice, because tens of thousand people have already been taken away from an active civic life into a life of insurgency, and those Maoist cadres too need a legitimate answer from their political leadership if total anarchy is to be avoided.
if they insist upon this demand, the Monarchy will either concede to it and create a constitution assembly [which is very unlikely without the absolute support of UML and NC, which again is a very remote possibility in the arithmetics of Nepali politics] , which will be another hotbed for political chaos because the act of both creation and operation thereof of the constitution assembly will be subjected to heavy political dissent. Or the Monarchy will refuse to create a Constitution Assembly, whereby rendering the struggle of the Maoists futile, thus forcing them back into an armed insurgency, as the Maoist leadership has to maintain a status as a political force, even if simply to justify the violence it has unleashed on the State over the last 7 years.
in any case, the heart of the matter hasn't even been approached in this entire debate. i am of the opinion that the real issue has never been discussed in Nepali politics, or in this forum. which is regretable.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 07-Feb-03 10:07 AM
Tick and Prawin,
I, for one, is not blaming anyone for bring peace. I support peace. I also have high regard for many issues Maoists initially based their movement on. I, however, have lost faith over Maoist leadership since the movement veered toward unreasonable and insensible violence and cruelty. I still don't think what Maoists claim or majority of us (Nepali) are expecting is political upliftment. I am highly convinced that what we are looking for is an improved or properly addressed socio-economic situation. No revolution can establish peace. Peace is not an independent situation; it depends on many variables in variable extent. If any of those variables are challenged, peace may lose ground. Maoists cannot bring and maintain peace in the nation even if they control the state with or without the monarchy. Maoists leadership knows this, at least so I believe. It's easy to fight or rule from the jungle with loot and terror than rule the nation from Singhadurbar with law and constitution conforming with all existing national and international expectations as a nation with of law.
In any conflict resolution compromise plays a vital role. Monarchy and Maoists both will have to compromise their respective position for peace. If victory is assured without much effort, no one comes to the table for negotiation. If Maoists were so concerned with the issues Nepal and Nepalis are facing then they could have voiced their concerns through the parliament. With the 2/3 majority they even could and still can demand a referendum to throw out the monarchy (why cry for a constitution assembly). Why didn't they walk on that path? Because they know they don't have much support from the majority of the people to do whatever they want. They will never be a majority or even a major party (having more than 30 % of the parliament seats) if they come to mainstream politics. They know it well. Fear is their weapon not reason. So is my take.
May peace prevail to the land I owe my life to. I wish every cruel murderers (be them Maoists or Security people) were brought to the justice and hanged to death or the maximum extent of the law for destroying lives of innocent reasonable people. This is just my wish, though. Neither Maoists nor the govt. can continue killing each other. If the revolution is for peace then why not accept peace if it comes without a revolution? It's not as simple as it sounds but I think we should give every chance available to the peace and avoid every chance available for war. We all need to focus more on improving or creating a healthy atmosphere for socio-economic growth if we want a long lasting peace to prevail otherwise there will be many more "…badis" ready to revolt in the future even if these maobadis are history.
Finally, I must say it's the boss in Naraynhiti who brought the Maoists to the table not the acting dude in Singhdurbar. I may be wrong but until I see otherwise I stick to what I think.
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| Free Thinker |
Posted
on 07-Feb-03 02:18 PM
Reminds me of Girija's famous 3Ms "Male,Masale,Mandale" .... what will he call this bunch - 3Ps ( Prachande,Panche,Palace)?. We may never know if all the speculation of the Prachanda-Palce nexus is just wild fantasy or hard reality but it seems, at least on the surface, that both the Maoists and the Palace have done a bad PR job about this whole thing so far. Maybe Gyanendra is not all that sauve after all ;)
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| tick |
Posted
on 08-Feb-03 09:13 AM
Sparsha ji,
I am sure you have noticed how maobaids change their stance from time to time. They started their initial movement with a disagreement that started in the house when they were a minority.
Maobadis selected their demands based on what was "marketable". They were not fighting for neither you, me nor for my dad who is a farmer. They were fighting for them selves, at least the leaders were. If they were so concerned for the benefit of common Nepalis they would not go on a killing spree, harm the infrastructure, skin people before killing etc. Maobadis initial demand is nothing more than a successful "marketing" campaign. Where is all the money they collected/looted went? Why are the family of the leaders aboard? Every thing they say contradicts with what they have done.
People are judged by what they say and what they do, maobadis are not an exception.
Iti. my 2 cents.
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| tick |
Posted
on 08-Feb-03 09:16 AM
Sparsha ji,
I agree with you, pretty much except for one thing as noted above.... 8-)
May peace prevail in Nepal, in the world and in our hearts.
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| pipaldanda |
Posted
on 09-Feb-03 08:47 AM
In the contest of maobadhi, How can chor be sadhu? How can terrorist become Neta? How are they going to give consolation to thosands of nepalese brutally murdered during their terroist campaign? Will they ever be forgiven? How and when they are going to return "the looteko dhan" sun , chandi, etc from the banks of the common people. These are the series of questions that is hunting everybody's mind for which the answeres are awaiting. I feel that they have realized how far they have gone so far in the name of voilence , for which later there is no way for them to return to talk about peace.
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| khimberly |
Posted
on 09-Feb-03 01:03 PM
As you say "how can chor be sadhu" you know people can be anything if they want, and "Terrorist" they are not a animal they are still human they didn,t became terrorist themself, the main reason is our(Nepalies) governmental situation i mean you know, and hey tryed to make new rule, but they just did wrong way and we called them terrorist, i believe they did very-very wrong but still if they want to do with better way, of course they can be a Neta. 20/22 varsa prison ma basera gindagi bitayko people ta Neta banera kati ramra-ramra kam gareka chhan.
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