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| Montou |
Posted
on 11-Feb-03 11:01 PM
Hey All,
I think some of you by now might know why I come to sajha chat. I have talked to some of you but I wanted to ask this question to all of you. I am not trying to be a Spiritual Guru or anything but had this burden in my heart. And the Lord was telling me to let it out. So I am going to pour out what is in my heart. You might just flat out laugh at me or mock me but I am doing this cause I care about all of you. So PLEASE give honest answers by giving some thoughts to it.
DO YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE "ETERNAL LIFE" AND THAT YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE?
Love you all.....
By His Grace,
Montou
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 11-Feb-03 11:07 PM
i don't know where i end up when i die.. thaha chaina.. thaha paunu ni chaina yaar.. bhare k khane thegan chain..aaba mare pachi ko k thegaan?
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| Trikal |
Posted
on 11-Feb-03 11:58 PM
Montouji,
To find out about...."ETERNAL LIFE"......You need to go and meet those people who has been reincarneted. They can give you the correct answer. I never belived such kind of things..... until I met my guru...
You can find couple of reincarneted gurus in Bauddha gumba, Kathmandu. They will share with you thir experience (if they think you are the right person) "how do we feel after we die" and why should we have to follow good karma path....
Good jigyasaa Montouji....... This questions comes from a class of mind ..... Hope you will find your answer soon.....
Good Luck !!!
TRIKAL...
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 12-Feb-03 12:07 AM
you can find avatarai lamas in bouddha at naya gumba/.thai gumba... arko chahi boudha stupa ko entrance ma ubhiyera.. stupa lai face garne.. aani right lagne.. tyaha euta monastery cha.. chongkhapa monatery.. tyaha pani hunu huncha euta red lama.. sadhai gayab.. uha pani avatari lama ho re.. naya gumba ko avatari lama kahile kahi niskinu huncha.. yeso herera feri gayab hunu huncha.. kehi bolnu hunna..
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| Montou |
Posted
on 12-Feb-03 12:34 AM
Trai aka Isolated Freak bro,
Sorry yaar took so long to get back to you. Your comment maybe similar to most people. Ani I thought about what to say to you yaar. Anta the Lord spoke to me as usual. So I decided to give you His very words rather than coming up with my own.
Here it goes:
"There fore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap
or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
So do not worry, saying 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things will be given to you as well." Matthew 6:25-27,31,33.
La ta yaar Trai...
Hope this helps you yaar....
Natra I will still be praying for you hai....
By His Grace,
Montou
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| Montou |
Posted
on 12-Feb-03 12:50 AM
Hey Trikal bro,
Thank you for your response bro. I really appreciated it.
Anyways do you really believe in re-incarnation? Well nothing against that.
Trikal bro I did not want to bring this up this quick but since you mentioned, "Hope you will find your answer soon..... " I thought I would tell you the ANSWER!
Trikal bro this thought never ocurred to me before and I can relate that to majority of people. I was also one of you just living an ordinary life. Just trying to live life to the fullest by doing things at that time were cool. I would have laughed at a person who would have asked me this question then. And that too I can relate to majority of people.
But somebody knew my heart and knew where I was heading. He did not want to me to live that way. He got hold of me and had me go through an experience. That experience not only revealed me how to have life abundant on earth but also of an "eternal life " in Heavan. And that wonderful person was no other than Jesus.
Ani Trikal bro I can go into details on this if you are interested hai...I can seriously spend as much time as you want on this...
La ta Trikal bro , hope this helps...
U take care and hoping to hearing from you soon.
By His Grace,
Montou
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| Bahudaliya Panchayat |
Posted
on 12-Feb-03 01:53 AM
In my opinion,
Eternal Life exists. And I have also believed that there exists lives in another planet too.
My formaulla:
The total number of lives in the Universe is constant.
It means suppose you die in this earth, immediately you take another life in another planet and vice-versa.
I'm trying to prove it but ... I think it takes decades/centuries to be proved my theory.
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| Montou |
Posted
on 12-Feb-03 11:50 PM
Ke Chha Sabaijana?
Yo thread ta lop huna lagechha yaar...Anta thought I would put it on the front page for a while...
La waiting for you all to put your sincere thoughts....
La thats it....
Hoping to seeing more of you...
Take care all...
By His Grace,
Montou
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| GurL_Interrupted |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 12:20 AM
Uhm..rite now I'm living a hellish life ...Maybe I'll be a better person w/ time...God knows!
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| Montou |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 02:50 PM
GurL_Interrupted,
I dont really understand what you mean by a hellish life. But everybody might think he/she is living one. But I am pretty sure I was one of them who lived a hellish/wreckless/carefree etc life. Well people who knew me in the past can tell you more about it. If God could change me for the best,I bet He can do for anyone of you. And GurL_Interrupted you are not exception.
So I will be praying for you. And sometime down the line God will get hold of you.
Thats it for now...
Till then hang in there.
By His Grace,
Montou
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| hangu lama |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 03:14 PM
jai sambho!
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| Padme |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 04:57 PM
Mr. Montu Brother,
What makes you so sure that there is a heavenly place waiting for you? Please provide reference outside bible if you can.
How can any one know what happens when they die? They are not coming back and telling you what it is like to sleep in a grave 7 feet deep. It must be cold and creepy.
There are people that have openly shared their "near death" experience. This experience is a debatable
"Every question has an answer within" this is the quote from Krishnamurti.
Heaven is a reward for good deeds, why should my neighbour that cheats on his wife, steals from work and from my yard, never likes to tell the truth go to heaven along with me. If that neighbour is going to heaven with me, I do not want to go to that heaven. It will not be heaven.
:-)
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 05:06 PM
I think trikal and montou are one and the same. Boy, Trikal sure got lots of aliases.
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| Harris |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 05:31 PM
My grandfather, who is now dead for 10 years, used to tell us his near death story. He was sick for several weeks of which he spent 17 days without food and coming to his conciousness. He had travelled a long journey to Yamaraj's ghar before Yamaraj finally told his workers... you got wrong man. Go and get his xxxx. Fortunately or unfortunately, my gradfather recovered speedily after that and his relative (xxxx) was drown in the river the same day.
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| Padme |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 05:52 PM
Harris ji,
Incredible story it reminds me of my grandfather’s story, similar near death experience.
Here it goes.
He was in deathbed for many days. He had TB, doctors had given up on him. During those times TB was not curable. He died (or nearly died), met with all the relatives, his parents and friends that had passed away. He liked to see all of his favorite people and friends and finally he was taken to yamaraj and yamaraj said that he still has time on earth. He was "taken" aback. He gained consciousness and fully recovered. Amazed all the doctors of Kathmandu. He lived more than forty years after that near death experience. He used to say death is nothing to be afraid of it is a pleasing experience.
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| czar |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 06:29 PM
To inject a note of levity to the proceedings....
I am determined to go to hell as:
- Bill Gates is going there, or at least Larry Ellison thinks so. I don’t want to call the founder of Oracle a fool, do I ?
- In hell I can finally thank Bill Gates for creating such unstable software that its more than a full time job keeping systems going and hence helps ensure a paycheck for me.
- Air-conditioners are being installed in Hell, finally, as so many imminent personages of our times are headed there and bribery works.
Examine the rogues gallery: Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the female who ratted on Monica, Kenneth Starr (wasting tax payers money), the entire board of Enron, Martha Graham (of insider trading fame), Howard Stern, Green the ex of Drew Barrymore, Hugh Hefner (bless his soul!), Donald Trump (for the Taj Mahal casino). I am sure you catch my drift..
- There’s going to be luscious n baaad babes.. Spend eternity around frigid, sermonizing harp players? Nope, not I.
- The food is sure to better. Anything you enjoy eating these days is bad for your
health. In hell, you can eat to your hearts content and not worry about heart attacks or calories. Heck, you’re dead already!
- I can smoke, drink and sin as much as I care to. Whaddya expect me to do in hell anyways? Pray?
Looking forward to seein many of you there.. Cheers !
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| Padme |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 07:00 PM
Czar,
I guess we will have to create name tags with Sajha aliases to identify ex-sajhaties. On the other hand the population in hell/heaven might be pretty big. All the people that have already lived are already there and all the people that will be born will be there as well. I will take the concept of "planned and controlled" growth, where ever I go, to make that place a little better.
:-)
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| khukuree |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 07:42 PM
my good friend asked me to go church with him. i looked at him surprised, then he explained that his new girl friend who was a jahova's witness, really wanted him to go with her to the church.
We were in the church for a while when the preacher started shouting at a girl who looked like a gothic chic. the girl was crying and people were making noise, stuping their feet. some were rolling on the floor. it was kinda funny but dared not to laugh.
Then my friend's girl friend introduced us to the people. upon asked aidded that i was hindu and my friend said he was buddhist. Then the preacher started howling "buddha is dead" and hinduism was evil. he said hindu gods carry human skulls on their necks. I knew he was talking about KALI. he said anybody not following their religion were evil. It was really funny....I kinda gave him my answers and then we left. I was surprised that where all that respecting others and their religion thing gone.
about my friend, I guess they broke off after that.
now we always get a good laugh among friends when we talk about that incident.
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| Vision |
Posted
on 13-Feb-03 08:15 PM
Czar..haha ..very funny. I sure hope to join you in hell.
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| Montou |
Posted
on 14-Feb-03 10:17 PM
Hey czar/vision bros,
Sorry that it took me a while to get back to you guys. Got real busy with school and other stuff.
Czar bro khai yaar ma ke vanu? I can understand where you are coming from because I was in similar state at one time. I thought Heaven and Hell to be just a fairy tale and never really cared about it.
Tara here is some truth for you. Actually this is Apostle Paul speaking.
"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." I Corinthians 1:18
When Jesus came down to earth He was rejected, mocked at and hated. Jesus being the Lord He humbled Himself before those people. In spite of whatever they did He still loved them. Above all He voluntarily went and died for all of us. He did that so that we may be forgiven of our sins and have eternal life.
I am just an ordinary man like anyone of you. If my Lord was treated like that when He was here I am no excpetion. It was expected of people. I am in no way mad at anyone but really just sad.
Jesus says,"If the world hates you keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world it would love you as its own. As it is you do not belong to the world but I have chosen you out of the world . That is why the world hates you." John 15:18-19
And I feel its true.
Khai yaar aru ke vanu ma?
Anyways guys keep posting your thoughts.
I will continue to pray for you all.
By His Grace,
Montou
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| Montou |
Posted
on 14-Feb-03 10:26 PM
Khukuree bro,
Sorry to hear that you happen to have a bad experience.
I dont want to judge anybody but there are people who are wolves in sheep's clothings. We need to be careful with these people.
I think I understand you Khukuree bro. Not all people who call themselves Christians are really who they claim themselves to be. Thats a sad thing but a reality. Thats why the world gets false impression of Jesus Christ and Christianity because some of the people dont live the true life. I understand Khukuree bro that you were turned off at the church. I feel sorry for that man and you.
Anyways just wanted to say that...
Keep praying for you bro. Hopefully one of these days you will end up at a right one.
By His Grace,
Montou
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| Montou |
Posted
on 15-Feb-03 02:44 PM
Hey All,
What you all thinking?
This thread was almost disappearing from the front page...So thought I will bring it up again...
Is it that most of you think this is the only life and thats it?
I dont know and I cannot speak for you all. So please speak up...
By His Grace,
Montou
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| Montou |
Posted
on 27-Feb-03 02:18 AM
Hey All,
Yo thread ta kaha pugechha kaha...khojnai garo vako yaar...
Anyways another attempt to bring it up in the front page... Kasaile baalai diya haina ...ma matra karakarai raichha yaar...
ke ho yatika manchhe haru chhan...
kaile pani yasto bare sochidaina ki kya ho?
La ta yaar...raat nikai gayechha dimag pani chalya haina....ma chai lage aba...
Hoping to get more responses hai ta...
By His Grace,
Montou
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