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| cellphone | Posted
on 19-Feb-03 09:43 PM
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| Biswo | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 12:56 AM
About military(RNA):: Bhimsen Thapa made the system of military barracks, before that yes RNA was like an ad hoc militia group organized initially by king Prithvi Narayan Shah for the purpose of unification. He also taught the military to regularly work out(drill?), and with the help of that military force, he ruled the nation for three decades. He didn't have his own sons(he had four daughters only), so Mathavar Singh Thapa, his brother's son, was made the commander in his later days. Mathavar Janga was a profligate leader, who used to spend hundreds of thousands of sterlings in his India travels.[From the publications of Itihas Shiromani Babu Ram Acharya] RNA chief was under the direct command of Rana Prime Minister Mohan Shamsher even after the 2007 revolution, and chief Suraj Shamsher(?) used to ask Matrika for all major decisions about RNA after Mohan Shamsher's government was dismissed. It was only around then that NC leaders became 'embarrassed' to lead RNA, and asked the military chief to ask to the king for its important matters. The power of leading RNA, thus silently and unwittingly, handed back to the Shah Rulers after more than a century, and was never handed back to the people again. NC made another major mistake when it unconditionally merged its Mukti Sena to RNA. It should have at least made its own commanders top ranked officers of the new RNA, but it didn't push for that. Again, in NC, loyalty was shifting so fast that even its own commanders would not guarantee the power of NC leaders. All culminated in 2017, when NC leaders saw their government crushed by bulldozer of royal ambition, and their cadres yielding to the royal jaggernaut one by one. Absolute majority of its MPs, majority of leaders, not to mention the likes of Parashu Chaudhar and Tulsi Giri, were the first ones to yield.The army and the power stemming from it that they handed back to the Shahs was the major reason why their popular mandate was invalidated. |
| noname | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 07:04 AM
Biswoji, Very informative insights!! Regarding the merger of Mukti Sena to RNA, I believe that Mukti Sena was never merged in RNA. Instead, the existing police force, established circa 1990 BS as 'Police Goswara', was re-structured with injection of Mukti Sena – later known as RAKSHYA DAL - and creation of the post of IGP in 2008 BS. Before that the police force was operating as a wing of the Army. One of the paper sometimes back reported that the row between Army and Police culminated from the time of establishment of Nepal Police, as Mukti Sena were considered near to SinghDurbar and Army to the Palace. BP too regretted, albeit late, the decision not to inject Mukti Sena in the Army. I think, though without support of any credential documents, Congress Leaders at that time were suggested by westerners not to manipulate the Army. They might have feared a communist insurgency (Bada Hakim like Nirmal Lama turned vocal communists later!). One minor note: Unlike Tulsi Giri, Parshu N. Chaudhary did not yield immediately. He waited solid 21 years (?) and before his announcement to join Panchayat (SUDHARIEKO!) in 2038, he had talked with BP for about two hours about his decision. Although that incident is well documented, I am not sure what was BP's suggestion to him. In that sense his move was not bolt from the blue and party hi-command was well informed about his move. |
| cellphone | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 07:09 AM
Biswo, Good analysis. But the Mukti Senas are today's Police force of Nepal. I don't exactly remember on which book I read but it was on of the B. P. Korila's. If I can remember the scenario, he writes, Subba had come to me and said, "We still have our weapons. If you want, we can still fight against Rana's forces." But I stopped him and made Mukti Sena as police force and him the commander. He has also said that we maid a big mistake to give all Military forces to guard Royal family after ousting Ranas. Well, you are still our "SAJA'S POLOTICAL GURU". Tell us more about this. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 03:53 PM
nonameji, Sorry about Parashu Narayan Chaudhari's name. He didn't leave immediately. Yet, the essence of article is still same even with this new information. Now, for military, I didn't mean that there was any formal proclamation about the merger of Mukti Sena to RNA. I still think a lot of those former fighters joined RNA, and even Krishna Prasad Bhattarai regrets about that in his memoir published by Dr Rajesh Dhungana. Yes, police was closer to BP, also because BP was the first home minister in post Rana regime. Anyway, ours[7 saalko] was perhaps the only 'revolution' where the winners joined the government without any military power in their hand, and that was why they paid for their mistake later. Cellphoneji, Am I? We are all occasional commentators only. Not SAJA'S POLOTICAL(I am sure you meant Sajha's Political) GURU, as you put it. |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 04:26 PM
Also remember that BP was much more of a gentleman than rest of the kangressi crowd. If I am not mistaken, he accepted the mandate of the referendum. Perhaps that is why he okayed Chaudhari's participation in Panchayat. And I think those folks who try to belittle Chaudhary's intellect and achievement are rather partisan. After 2038, both Chaudhary and Arjun Narshing KC along with other joined Panchayat. Now KC is a khanti Kangressi because he went back to Girija, while we try to villify Chaudhary because now he accepts the king's nomination? Come on, folks, do you remember that Chaudhary also returned to kangress (under ghriha prabesh) in 2046? But the Koirala family was very jealous, especially Sushil Koirla who feared Chaudhary would be number one in NC in Far West, so they played all kinds of dirty and humiliating tricks on Tharu ko choro. Unable to bear that, he went back to RPP. So let us not blame Chaudhary...he was forced to leave kangress by Koirala family. Aauta Tharu ko chora le thulo pad payo, dheri ramro bhayo. Yo Nepal ma bahun ra chhetri le matri kati sashan garne? |
| Biswo | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 08:09 PM
>Aauta Tharu ko chora le thulo pad payo, >dheri ramro bhayo. Yo Nepal ma bahun ra >chhetri le matri kati sashan garne? Parashu is not going to do 'sashan' as you are trying to hint. The authority of Raj Shabha people is very limited, and unless Paras does something funny like Dipendra did, there is not going to be some complex succession issue next time either where he will need to exercise his discretion. And one more thing, while I have nothing against Parashu Chaudhari's nomination, I don't think the post has anything to do with the rest of "Tharu" people. It neither will elevate their status, nor will make any substantial progress. That post was held, in the past, by Bhadrakali Mishra too, if I remember correctly. That didn't make any difference to Teraibasi. Unless people reach to substantial posts by their talent, rather than by Nigaaha, nothing can be deduced from such nomination. >the Koirala family was very jealous, especially >Sushil Koirla who feared Chaudhary would be >number one in NC in Far West, Oh, come on.I mean you are writing a pure figment of your imagination.What was there to be jealous of Parashu Narayan Chaudhary in post Panchayat era? Parashu Narayan couldn't be number one in Far West, no way, he had his chance and his entry into Panchayt had tainted him, just like it tainted most of other political leaders, including his predecessor in Raj Shabha, Mr Rayamajhi. In multiparty democracy, to show your popular support you have to win election. Doesn't matter from which party. You can't be number one just by seeking blessing from your old friend.And it is true that unfortunately he couldn't get the blessing from Girija. However, Mr Chaudhari looks fortunate enough, as he got this new blessing from the king, and that seems to be helping him to put himself in the political map for the time being. |
| psychodreamer | Posted
on 20-Feb-03 08:36 PM
mooji babu raam alik sajilo nepali ma ta boolnu parcha |
| Pragya | Posted
on 21-Feb-03 10:28 PM
It appears that Baburam has infactNOT read "Animal Farm". He did not respond to the question he was asked by the nepalipost but instead he answered sthing else. He was asked that at the end of the story when animals looked inside the Farm through the window they were not able to distinguish which were humans (their previous enemy) and which were pigs (their current masters). Too bad Dr. B also did not want to think about such future. He has challenged us (readers) to prove that their sons and daughters are not abroad? Anyone out there who can verify where they are and contact nepalipost? |
| Padme | Posted
on 22-Feb-03 11:20 AM
Chor sipahai baheyo bhane chorna sajilo huncha? Jyan mara rakshak bho bhane jyan ko mulya kati huncha? |