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| SITARA |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 02:30 PM
Subject: U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation Importance: High The following is the text of John Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. Mr. Kiesling is a career diplomat who has served in United States embassies from Tel Aviv to Casablanca to Yerevan. Dear Mr. Secretary: I am writing you to submit my resignation from the Foreign Service of the United States and from my position as Political Counselor in U.S. Embassy Athens, effective March 7. I do so with a heavy heart. The baggage of my upbringing included a felt obligation to give something back to my country. Service as a U.S. diplomat was a dream job. I was paid to understand foreign languages and cultures, to seek out diplomats, politicians, scholars and journalists, and to persuade them that U.S. interests and theirs fundamentally coincided. My faith in my country and its values was the most powerful weapon in my diplomatic arsenal. It is inevitable that during twenty years with the State Department I would become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish bureaucratic motives that sometimes shaped our policies. Human nature is what it is, and I was rewarded and promoted for understanding human nature. But until this Administration it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer. The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been Americas most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security. The sacrifice of global interests to domestic politics and to bureaucratic self-interest is nothing new, and it is certainly not a uniquely American problem. Still, we have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinion, since the war in Vietnam. The September 11 tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism. But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this Administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally. We spread disproportionate terror and confusion in the public mind, arbitrarily linking the unrelated problems of terrorism and Iraq. The result, and perhaps the motive, is to justify a vast misallocation of shrinking public wealth to the military and to weaken the safeguards that protect American citizens from the heavy hand of government. September 11 did not do as much damage to the fabric of American society as we seem determined to so to ourselves. Is the Russia of the late Romanovs really our model, a selfish, superstitious empire thrashing toward self-destruction in the name of a doomed status quo? We should ask ourselves why we have failed to persuade more of the world that a war with Iraq is necessary. We have over the past two years done too much to assert to our world partners that narrow and mercenary U.S. interests override the cherished values of our partners. Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is at issue. The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East, and in whose image and interests. Have we indeed become blind, as Russia is blind in Chechnya, as Israel is blind in the Occupied Territories, to our own advice, that overwhelming military power is not the answer to terrorism? After the shambles of post-war Iraq joins the shambles in Grozny and Ramallah, it will be a brave foreigner who forms ranks with Micronesia to follow where we lead. We have a coalition still, a good one. The loyalty of many of our friends is impressive, a tribute to American moral capital built up over a century. But our closest allies are persuaded less that war is justified than that it would be perilous to allow the U.S. to drift into complete solipsism. Loyalty should be reciprocal. Why does our President condone the swaggering and contemptuous approach to our friends and allies this Administration is fostering, including among its most senior officials. Has oderint dum metuant really become our motto? I urge you to listen to Americas friends around the world. Even here in Greece, purported hotbed of European anti-Americanism, we have more and closer friends than the American newspaper reader can possibly imagine. Even when they complain about American arrogance, Greeks know that the world is a difficult and dangerous place, and they want a strong international system, with the U.S. and EU in close partnership. When our friends are afraid of us rather than for us, it is time to worry. And now they are afraid. Who will tell them convincingly that the United States is as it was, a beacon of liberty, security, and justice for the planet? Mr. Secretary, I have enormous respect for your character and ability. You have preserved more international credibility for us than our policy deserves, and salvaged something positive from the excesses of an ideological and self-serving Administration. But your loyalty to the President goes too far. We are straining beyond its limits an international system we built with such toil and treasure, a web of laws, treaties, organizations, and shared values that sets limits on our foes far more effectively than it ever constrained Americas ability to defend its interests. I am resigning because I have tried and failed to reconcile my conscience with my ability to represent the current U.S. Administration. I have confidence that our democratic process is ultimately self-correcting, and hope that in a small way I can contribute from outside to shaping policies that better serve the security and prosperity of the American people and the world we share.
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| suva chintak |
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on 28-Feb-03 03:10 PM
Sitaraji, This was simply brilliant, and moving. I don't think I have seen a more honest appraisal of American policies from an American! The only problem is that people like Mr. Kiesling are too few here to make much of an effect. Nontheless, we must acknowledge his moral rectitude...unlike Mr. Powell who seems resigned to being Uncle Tom to Uncle Sam. Will the US 'free media' try to bury and hide this important public declaration from the American public? I don't know if the US media gave it enough attention...I am sure they are busy covering Bush's war party! Ah, for peace!
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| isolated freak |
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on 28-Feb-03 04:32 PM
This letter raises two important questions regarding the US foreign policy: 1. Is the American foreign policy guided by what Mearsheimer calls Offensive Realism? 2. Should the US be “internalizing the international issues” and “internationalizing the internal issues”? 1. Realism is at the heart of American Foreign Policy. If Hans J Morgantheu is to be believed: all nations are guided by the own self-interests and conflicts in international relations are resolved by the means of force. Each country in the international System has one motive: the ultimate pursuit of power. Also, by exerting power the Great Powers emerge as hegemons and show the other nations that they are the key players when it comes to Geoplitik. As Kissinger rightly said, Power is an aphrodisiac.( you get hooked to it). The US got it’s first dose of aphrodisiac when it embarked on an imperial adventure in Asia in the mid-1800s. Then the US wanted it in bigger quantity. 10-20 gms per year was not enough, so they bombed Japan, got involved in Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East, South and Central America and Africa. Now, that was realism. The US is taking its policy based on Realism a step further. The only way to resolve all the crises in the world and yet to be crises is the USE of force, even when things can be resolved peacefully. Aggressiveness in foreign policy to make sure that other nation states serve the US interests than their own internal interests is what I understand by Offensive Realism (correct me, if I am wrong). Is this bad? Yes. It is. BY pursuing this policy, the US is on its way to becoming a Global Dictator (the very system it condemns officially!!). Will the US “Imperial Adventure” ever be contained? Although this sounds like a really stupid question at this point of time but the US’s insistence on war will result in the next Cold War. The current world order is a mystery to all the students of International Relations/Politics/History because it is for the first time that the world has only 1 super power. In earlier periods there were always 2 or more superpowers, and that created a check-balance mechanism. Because of the US insistence on war with Iraq, we are now seeing various alliances taking shape: Franco-German Alliance, Russia-India-China Alliance, and Alliance of Arab Nations. These alliances will merge into one big alliance to contain the US’s imperial (mis)adventure sooner or later. The US is only accelerating the Pace of the merge by constantly insisting on a war. The Franco-German alliance, the Russian-Indian-Chinese alliance and the Arab League, along with 2. The US has, in the last 50 year period, developed the most powerful tool: To get the public approval of its actions and (mis) adventures worldwide, the US internalizes the international issues and vice versa by spreading fear—fear of communism, fear of an imminent attack on it’s soil, fear of this and that. The Domino Effect Theory was during the Cold War what WMDs is in today’s bizarre world order. The US strategy has been to capitalize on people’s fear. This is how they got involved in Korea, Vietnam, the Middle East, South and Cetral America. The situation was worse during the Nixon-Kissinger Era but the later days saw the softening of the US foreign policy. OK.. will write more later.. Aaja shiva ratri ma majale jagram basiyo.. jam bom bhole…
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 04:40 PM
The Franco-German alliance, the Russian-Indian-Chinese alliance and the Arab League, along with ... ma chutecha.. The Franco-German alliance, the Russian-Indian-Chinese alliance and the Arab League, along with various small nations, if merge into one big movement, then the US will be forced to hold back its enduring freedom fights and focus on its internal economy.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 04:43 PM
by the way, what's the source of that letter?
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 05:58 PM
INTERNATIONAL | February 27, 2003 U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation (NYT) News Sorry IF ji... I thought I had pasted all.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 06:18 PM
if, sorry to point out the obvious. the source of the letter is soon-to-be ex-diplomat john brady kiesling. happy weekend!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 28-Feb-03 08:49 PM
that would be the originator.. the source here is where it was published. I hope this clears the confusion.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 04:48 PM
then who's the "source"'s source? just thought i'd clarify your clarification...
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 06:45 PM
He didn't ask for the source's source, you idiot, he asked for the source.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 07:11 PM
beDOH! the source is the source's source, of course of course of course nice try at the "ritu OK turi", pal-o-mean-0, but that ain't one. ignant byotch...
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 07:21 PM
Idiot, don't ya know that devanagiri is a syllabic language? Of course ritu ko turi is a frigging palindrome. If everybody else understands If's question, what's your fukking problem? Got a big rod stuck up your ass?
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 07:22 PM
not language, script.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 07:36 PM
don't forget YOU IDjat-- read e-script again, ma fren; if you got such big chij why you whining me?
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 07:46 PM
First understand my position before opening your bigass mouth.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 08:07 PM
Ha re...was wondering what the intense discussion was about! Yep Bush policy surely does that to you!!!!.... sparks up bushfires !!!
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| matrixx |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 08:33 PM
whine and chiz is gay and likes bhedo. bhedo is mad because of this. as we all know bhedo is homophobic and homicidal! haha!
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 08:37 PM
Sitaraji, Timely celestial interverntion to defuse the Bushfire!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 03-Mar-03 08:42 PM
Suva ji; :) Read, "If Bush and Saddam were to have a Debate thread"..... Hilarious!
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| MunnaMobile |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 12:21 AM
Sitara..you are starting the Bushfire..hehehe n its catching thread after thread. Keep it up until all da bushes gets turned to ashes and then Peace shall prevail.
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| surya |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:16 AM
Calling someone gay and being petty seems to be the m.o. of the matrix with the double xx. I have a feeling this particular cyber personal hides yet another fragile mental state! :)
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:38 AM
shitara, shove it tictac, mattrezzzz, money mo' billz, don't break your daisy chain. bhedo, grow some balls, and while you're at it a brain. as the saying goes, phuck 'em if they can't take a joke! friggin losers
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 11:26 AM
From Bushes to Ashes, Desert to Dust! Of Men and Mice, Rodents' Lust!
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 12:50 PM
survey says...................0
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 04:42 PM
Me, grow some brain? Heh, aren't you the friggin' idiot who said palindromes don't exist in Nepali? Have you eaten your words yet? Have you banged your head against the world? Do you feel stupid? Do you feel humiliated? Do you wanna bang your own ass???? Answer these questions. lol@jokes. Your jokes are so fuking serious. Learn some shitt from me. I'll be your tutor. I'm finding Surya very very irritating these days. Some day she'll hear from me.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 04:50 PM
clearly, you are mentally ill. get professional psychiatric help, the sooner the better, before something worse happens to you. if you're unable to, an intervention will be arranged for you, like it or not.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 04:52 PM
Yeah, now call me ill. Just aknowledge defeat, numbnuts.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 04:54 PM
you're mentally ill and wrong, too.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 04:56 PM
Uh huh, what a lame reply. What else do you have to say? Keep whining, that's the only thing you're good at.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:24 PM
what do you have to say that you did not say at our last meeting? or, perhaps, you have some things to unsay?
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:40 PM
Lol, who me? You haven't refuted me squat. Oh, that's right, you living in your lala land. And I'm getting tired of your "You are wrong" reply without refutation. WTF. Come up with something new. First, understand the meaning of "syllabic" script. Second, understand what other people are querying about. No lame excuses like "I was just joking" change the fact that you didn't understand what everybody else did. Heh. Talk about dumb! Now I can't stay here all day arguing with dipshits like you. Anyway, any more obnoxious retorts from you directed towards good people(I'm not counted as such), and I'll keep stalking you till you 1) either change your pseudonym 2) stop posting here or 3) ignore me. Now bow down to your master.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:45 PM
you were and are wrong if you had the mental capacity to understand why i'd point it out to you but you've proven you don't and that you're just a foul-mouthed, immature bhai all stalk and no caulk...typical little bhai
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:46 PM
here comes little ramey
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:46 PM
put your head down and prepare for impact!
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:50 PM
bhedo, bhedo! [still lol] bhedo, you missed your life's path. you should've served as king's jester and earned your bread, and stripes, too, by mocking his counselors... ah, me! i fear i am beyond your comprehension
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:51 PM
Stop calling me bhai. I don't even know you. And didn't you say Nepali has no palindromes? You know I proved you wrong about that(malam, if kaka ko kaka doesn't count, even though "ka" is one letter in Nepali). Just concede defeat.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 06:58 PM
There lived a gay guy named whine and chij whose face got totally sprayed by his boyfriend's jizz and thus he decided to take a shower but oh no! He couldn't, his ass was bleeding and he had no power! Still waiting for your rebuttal. Your dear bhai, bhedo.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:03 PM
stop calling me bhai stop calling me bhai kina, bhai chha? khee na
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:06 PM
So, would you let us know the name of your cheap "book" that says Nepali has no palindromes? Did you write it down yourself? Lol. You know you were totally wrong. Here's a new one for you Nayan.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:10 PM
gee, you're sure bent out of shape why so mad, bhai?
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:21 PM
Aww, still digressing huh? Your silence, for me, is a victory.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:22 PM
someone got your goat? UHHHHH, that's right, you're a sheep, not a goat
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:27 PM
Keep whining, your brain is made up of cheese.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 07:37 PM
>Now I can't stay here all day arguing but you can stay here all day whining. you're so friggin' pathetic, ha ha ha haaaa! that lady twice your age--what is she, 24?--must've really hurt your fragile male ego. boo freakin' hoo, babu.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:08 PM
And I wonder what kind of a dimwit would think my little experience is based on real life. Perhaps, I grabbed it out of someone else's ass? Perhaps yours??? Now, if you can't stand me whining, I wonder why you're trying to match me in every way possible? When it comes to whining, you're the epitome. Your name is apt indeed. No need to put on a veneer of an adult man, for you are as sophisticated as Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone. Now run away to your mother, time to suckle on her mammary glands. You would need that extra calcium for growth. Yeeckk, that smell... what's that stain on your diaper? lil poopie of yours? No, that's not cheese, don't eat it! Awwww, too late.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:47 PM
awwwwww, poor idiot babu bhai had to take a long time out before his mommy would let him come out and play again. you idiot maggot. or, as you so perfectly described your little id self, friggin loser. come on, bhai, let's see you get mad and throw some more hissy fits. kale bhai, it's okay to have darker complexion, so don't get a complex over it. if you can't control your idiotic little baby tantrums, i'd be more than happy to let you come try to hitted me. take your best shot, sheep-boy. with you, it's like taking away candy from a baby...just without the candy. i can stand all the whining you can dish out. child, you make it soooo easy, chijy. you in MY world now, bitch.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:49 PM
bleat away, sheep-boy (that's your cue, idiot!)
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:50 PM
pea-brained maggot
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:51 PM
c'mon, mofo, you way to friggin slow bro...i mean bhai
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 08:52 PM
better out than in you'll feel much, much better once you get it off that hairless man-teat chest
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:05 PM
"...before his mommy " Lol. Why're you appropriating someone else's ideas? I made the reference first. Don't steal it. Come up with something original. Lol, what a lame way to put me down. But I'll give you a taste of your own medicine. Yeah, I certainly would prefer being a tall, sharp featured, handsome North Indian mediterranean caucasoid than some half-mongoloid, half-indian(which I imagine would make you look hispanic) Nepali like yourself. So, no, when you call me "dark" that's actually an honor. What would a mutt like you know? I probably could use your puny body for lifting weights. When was the last time I posted my racist rant? Long time ago. Good to know someone here's been following all my ramblings.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:09 PM
Keep spamming your one liners. Quality wins over quantity. Poor kid is so irascible.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:19 PM
You the same shit who used to post before as slipknot. I recognize your fuking ass anywhere.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:21 PM
Pretty sure this guy failed community college.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:21 PM
Where you at?
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:26 PM
even when you win, you lose. you ain't got quantity or quality. sure, i'll be your mutt, you'll be my bitch. come lift me, big boy. that is, if you can lift your skanky crack off the high chair. my offer stands; if you're lucky, i'll see you soon. now clean up the mess you made, though i'd personally rather you stew in it for a long as you have to.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 04-Mar-03 09:26 PM
where you at?
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 05-Mar-03 05:13 AM
Heh, pussyboy, I asked you the question first, answer it like a good boy. I'm gonna fuking crush you like one of those machines they use at factories for crushing used goods. With my 6'3" body size, I'll make you my bitch, play with you like you're my lil pussy, eat you, and then spit you out. The only thing you'll be able to do is whine, like you always do. Remember, asshole, you're mine. You're a dead man walking, biatch. Don't know who you're messing with here, puny piecea shit. I am a karate expert, fool, in fact, that's my job. You had it a long time coming. Just to give you a headstart, I'll let you have a go at me first. Come to think of it, I'll fight you with my hands tied behind. You're just another short, Nepali bitch who talks big online. Haha! Now prepare to get your ASS WHOOPED you spineless piece a shit. I'll skin you alive, and make a cloth out of your skin, exactly like that guy from Silence of the Lambs. I'm a real psychopath. Better bring all your friends too. I'll handle you all. Hahahahahahahahahaha. All you need to do is choose the venue. Mark my words, I am not gonna disappoint you, wuss. Or if you wanna make it legal, we could always go to a boxing ring. You're in a big quandary now. I was in need of a punching bag, the one I own now is too old. You'd make a good replacement. Now stop talking and let me manhandle you.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 05-Mar-03 12:02 PM
bi-bhai, center of dupont circle, 2:15-2:30 today. looking forward to setting you straight. whine and chij
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 05-Mar-03 04:20 PM
Lol, a no-show huh? A total fagget. Waited till 4:00 pm. I knew it. You're a puss.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 05-Mar-03 11:03 PM
What a clash of Wit, Brains and a flash of Brawn! Hairy Tales of Bushy Males! Guys guys! give peace a chance! :) In Peace!
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| sajan |
Posted
on 06-Mar-03 04:11 AM
The letter is simply wonderful and exuberant. The US Diplomat seems to be much more loyal towards Americans' interest rather than ownself. It signals that prevalent American poilicies are quite incompatible and they have to be amended. Thanks ! Sajan
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 06-Mar-03 10:36 AM
It signals that prevalent American poilicies are quite incompatible and they have to be amended. Sajan: Its never going to happen.
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| whine and chij |
Posted
on 06-Mar-03 11:31 AM
bhai, the look on your face was...priceless ;)
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| sajan |
Posted
on 07-Mar-03 03:59 AM
isolated freak ji, You are right its' not geong to happen in real. Honestly speaking it needs to be according to that letter for the better future of Americans and for sake of world too isn't it ? Thanks ! Sajan
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