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| Kali Prasad |
Posted
on 06-Jun-01 12:14 PM
Hello:
I think I have had enough dose of this royal massacre news. Since last two days my working hours have been interrupted by my officemates who stop by my office to express their concern over the royal family massacre. Yes, it is really unfortunate to have my peaceful country exposed to the world this way. We are known for himalayas, natures, and Gurkhas than any thing else to the rest of the world. But the whole thing made me ponder about this whole issue. Would you let me think loud?. First of all, I have no sympathy for the death of the then King Birendra or Crown prince Dipendra. Guys, what have they done to earn our respect? Some of you said Birendra was a genuine king who relinquished power to nepalese people in 1989. But my fellow nepalese people, I am one of the several nepalese persons who got arrested and bit to the level I would have never thought a human being would be beaten. Lot of my classmates got arrested and tortured and put in a prison (toilet?) cell. If the then King Birendra was so nice enough, why did he not give up the absolute power easily? And all the 28 years of ruling of Nepal, what has he done to Nepal that a common person like you or I would not have done? The answer is -- suck the country to its bone. The definition of King is to be a care taker of his people. Did he do that? I do not think so.
Now, let's go back to Dipendra. I had chance to see him during the 1996 summer olympic game in Atlanta. Before meeting him, I was thinking well this person should be really charismatic as according to the testemonies of lot of people I met before meeting him. My goodness, I feel sad to see such a lowly person as a prince. For god's sake he was already 25 years age but his behavior was like a kid. He had no idea what he was doing. He was chased around by his "yes" sayers. I was thinking he is going to address the crowd and tell the crowd what he wants to do as a crown prince or in that matter the future king. Nothing came out of him that I think of significant that I need to quote here. Later on that evening, he flew to New Orleans. Few people who knew the detail about his trip told me that he wanted to check out the barboun street in New Orleans. For those of you, who do not know Barboun street in New Orleans, it is a red light district.
When a future king is like that, you loose complete respect for the guy. I heard he emphasized sports in the country, but we do have other needs more urgent than sports. Did he do any thing to overcome the poverty? He could have opened up industries and create a favorable environment for people to work in our own country than sending them to be a slave in arab countries where there is no human right at all.
So my friends, this is the kind of background I have about our the then crown prince. And because of these reasons, I have no respect for him. While I am really sad to see him go the way he did, I still do not feel bad. As for the innocents people who got killed in the massacre, my express my heartfelt condolence.
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Now come back to King Gyanendra. I do not know much about this guy but here are my few suggestions for this new king. If he really wants to win the heart of nepalese people, do some thing good for the country. Stop the corruption. Severely prosecute the people who are corrupt. We need to teach lesson to people like the congressman Chataut. Provide a favorable environment for businesses to flourish. Collect the tax from people and use for good cause such as construction of infrastructures. Try to solve the poverty. We are tourist dependent economy so sustainable use of natural resources should be our agenda. King Gyanedra is a patron of the Annapurna conservation area. He should develop ecotourism in a manner that favors sustainable devleopment. And if he really wants to develop the country, try to attract he scientists and other expert nepalese people living in foreign countries. Also, he needs to utilize already existing human resources of Nepal in a productive way.
And my ultimate wish is after he rules country for few years and brings back the country as a livable place, he should relinquish his power and let the country be a country where you and I can run for a president. We need that kind of country -- a country run by the people for the people.
I think my beloved country can be in a better shape than what we have up now. To be really truthfull, I am really sick of every one in the government sucking my country like a leach. Referencing to the political system that we have now, it hurts me to say I do not want a multiparty system. I always felt I made some contribution to bring the multiparty system in Nepal but I have to let it go as it did not do any good for my country. I would rather be living in Autocratic system than the period between 1990 to now.
Play on Sam.
Kali Prasad
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| Nepali |
Posted
on 06-Jun-01 06:29 PM
good going!
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| Anu |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 12:08 AM
I was really touched by your words as they talk true sense. I wish people like you were elected Ministers around the world.The thing is that most of them are good but its human nature were greed eats up peoples mind and pushes them to do sin. The people who stand up to do work and serve the nation are good but they forget there responsibilty. See human are just like Animals but the only difference is that they have more brains. My point is that a Human being has to show everyday that he or see is responsible and prove it everyday passing by. They also need to be evaluated everyday. It was a pleasure reading your article.
Good on ya!!
Anu
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| 579 somerville ave |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 01:03 AM
We just read your article and we were very much upset by it. You are totally entitiled to your opinion, however, in a tragedy like this your kind of article is well left unsaid. We were even more flabbergasted to realize that they were heartless nepalese like you. no wonder american celebrities like david letterman made fun of this tragic moment. As you might be aware of the fact that at least 85% of nepalese men have shaved their heads in respect of the demise of our King, which is a clear indication that they do not share your feelings. just to let you know no matter how much evil, wild , or bad a person is after he/ she/they pass away you always remember their goodness. After all to err is human.
For your kind information, in the year 1990 not 1989(duh!)our late King Birendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev did hand over the absolute power. As far as my memory serves me right, Nepal was content with the monarch and the country was very peaceful(no chakka jaam, no nepal bandha, no curfews, no maoists threatenings etc). if people had wanted democracy 28 years ago they would have asked for it then. If you have to specify the years why didn't you ask for democracy then. Why after 28 years? why not prior to that or never?
it is better said then done. For the king to give absolute power there has to be a solid reason. We are very sorry to hear about your being in prison, but just to let you know that it is IMPOSSIBLE for our late king to have visited each and every single prison just to make sure if Mr. kali prasad was well treated in his mama ghar. Well Mr kali ji no hard feelings. Just the way you expressed your bitterness toward the royals, we felt that it was not appropriate at the time of mourning.
JAI NEPAL
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| diwas |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 01:21 AM
Dear 579 folks,
For your kind information, one of the earlier movement for people-rule started during the Rana era. That movement removed the Ranas from absolute power, but, instead of replacing Ranas with King Tribhuvan, introduced a system of elected government. Please refer to Nepal_ko history books for info on King Mahendra's legacy.
Also, power belongs to people, for without citizens there is not nation. The same could not be said for monarchs.
Also, there is no one right way or a wrong way to express feelings, opinions and ideas. But one is always afforded the freedom to express them. Just because it is time of mourning does not make exchanging ideas 'untimely'. There is no better time to exchange ideas than when it is most relevant.
Please take this opportunity to evaluate our own situation as a country, of all the misinformation fed to us thru the SAMAJIK sickchhya books, and our own in/abilities to think, live and prosper free of any restrictions.
Keep the dialog going...
-diwas
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 01:43 AM
I agree with Diwasji.
People have right to say what they think about the person: dead
or alive. Just as 85% male are shaven-headed(though I don't
doubt the figure, may I ask you how you counted that, what is
your source etc..) doesn't mean 15% are anomaly and crazy.
Don't take the late king/crown prince as god. They were human,
and it is good for all of us to hear about their goodness as
well as badness. I don't agree your type of 'only praise after
death' policy.
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| Prakash |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 02:33 AM
Well, first of all, I am from Kathmandu and I have no idea what exactly is going on among the nepalese communities in the states apart from the message board entries. I respect your thoughts about the incident and the monarchy. However, at these troubled times, when national unity is at stake, and when Maoists and UML are waiting to usurp power at this golded opportunity for them, let's work toward establishing our national unity which at the moment is possible thru a constitutional monarchy. But having said that, even our monarchy is constitutional, the monarch still enjoys too much constitutional powers. So it's high time the constitution be changed and the powers of the monarchs and most importantly the relatives of the monarch be reduced. The Scandinavian monarchy should be the model. A transition to republic is inevitable. But, in my opinion, there should be gradual transition.
Madhav Kr Nepal, refused to be a part of the probe committee. And he gave lame excuses. They say his party comrades pressurised him to resign. The way I see it, they put their party politics before the national need and yes, for the UML this is a golden opportunity to topple the Giriza government. (Even I support this motive of theirs, but the time is not right.) UML leaders failed to realize that Madhav Nepal was not nominated in the probe panel as the leader of CPN-UML but the leader of the opposition in the pariament .. regardless of which party he represented.
As for Mr Baburam Acharya, and his statement, for the first time I lost respect for him. I thought he was reasonable. But thru his highly imaginative conspiracy theory, he sounded like a vulture waiting to scavenge upon a country after its demise. From a person who denounced the royal family all the time came words of praise to the King Birendra and the Shah dynasty. Why? Because all he wanted was to get rid of monarchy and the parliamentary democracy. No, Dr.Acharya, your words may have stirred a lot of controversy but you have not fooled us.
And down with giriza government for arresting the Kantipur people. That's a clear sign of the impending demise of this government. In a democracy, everyone should be entitled to the freedom of speech. Even the militant Maoists.
And finally, we all know that the royal family, the dead as well as the survivors, are not gods as somebody put it. But monarch is not a person, it is an institution. So, everyone should ask for a more democratic constitution with the monarch enjoying only ceremonial powers. And the rest of the royal family should not exercise any kind of powers, ceremonial or otherwise.
Pashupatinathle Sabaiko Kalyan Garun.
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| Prakash |
Posted
on 07-Jun-01 02:34 AM
Well, first of all, I am from Kathmandu and I have no idea what exactly is going on among the nepalese communities in the states apart from the message board entries. I respect your thoughts about the incident and the monarchy. However, at these troubled times, when national unity is at stake, and when Maoists and UML are waiting to usurp power at this golded opportunity for them, let's work toward establishing our national unity which at the moment is possible thru a constitutional monarchy. But having said that, even our monarchy is constitutional, the monarch still enjoys too much constitutional powers. So it's high time the constitution be changed and the powers of the monarchs and most importantly the relatives of the monarch be reduced. The Scandinavian monarchy should be the model. A transition to republic is inevitable. But, in my opinion, there should be gradual transition.
Madhav Kr Nepal, refused to be a part of the probe committee. And he gave lame excuses. They say his party comrades pressurised him to resign. The way I see it, they put their party politics before the national need and yes, for the UML this is a golden opportunity to topple the Giriza government. (Even I support this motive of theirs, but the time is not right.) UML leaders failed to realize that Madhav Nepal was not nominated in the probe panel as the leader of CPN-UML but the leader of the opposition in the pariament .. regardless of which party he represented.
As for Mr Baburam Acharya, and his statement, for the first time I lost respect for him. I thought he was reasonable. But thru his highly imaginative conspiracy theory, he sounded like a vulture waiting to scavenge upon a country after its demise. From a person who denounced the royal family all the time came words of praise to the King Birendra and the Shah dynasty. Why? Because all he wanted was to get rid of monarchy and the parliamentary democracy. No, Dr.Acharya, your words may have stirred a lot of controversy but you have not fooled us.
And down with giriza government for arresting the Kantipur people. That's a clear sign of the impending demise of this government. In a democracy, everyone should be entitled to the freedom of speech. Even the militant Maoists.
And finally, we all know that the royal family, the dead as well as the survivors, are not gods as somebody put it. But monarch is not a person, it is an institution. So, everyone should ask for a more democratic constitution with the monarch enjoying only ceremonial powers. And the rest of the royal family should not exercise any kind of powers, ceremonial or otherwise.
Pashupatinathle Sabaiko Kalyan Garun.
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