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   <br> BoyZone Words Smile and e 20-Mar-03 Rekha
     Speaking of boybands, Rekha, how about " 20-Mar-03 DWI
       Rekha, Thanks for reminding me of that 21-Mar-03 dangggg
         Amityville. how about this for a chan 21-Mar-03 eminem8
           Eminem8 ji The Upper Elementary and M 21-Mar-03 SITARA
             You being in the education field are sup 21-Mar-03 eminem8
               Eminem8 ji NOTE: I said "SINGING" not 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                 Eminem sounds like hola life thats that 21-Mar-03 khimu
                   OO my god, lady. how could they possi 21-Mar-03 eminem8
                     OK Eminem8 ji: Sorry...I forgot to sp 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                       La ta....bell rings!!!! Gotta go! Enjoy 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                         Well well, there you go again. that was 21-Mar-03 eminem8
                           I am glad rapping is coming to some use 21-Mar-03 eminem8
                             Eminem8 ji Unfortunately, it IS the s 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                               Well put Sitara. Your concern on the mat 21-Mar-03 DWI
                                 Eminem, You said, You being in the edu 21-Mar-03 Raksiya
                                   Eminem8 ji... Thanks... appreciate he 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                                     Raksiya ji Excellent points there! 21-Mar-03 SITARA
                                       Last Christmas The Wham! Last Christ 21-Mar-03 Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai
Aah Buddy you're a boy make a big noise 21-Mar-03 Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai
   SMOOTH OPERATOR Words and Music: Sade A 21-Mar-03 Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai
     It is going to take a lot more, you say. 21-Mar-03 eminem8
       Eminem Jyu, Brawling over irrelevant is 21-Mar-03 Prem Charo
         i dont know if the war on iraq seemed ir 21-Mar-03 Eminem8
           Eminem8 ji: "Ma'am" ???? Nice! Do you 22-Mar-03 SITARA
             Thanks Sitara. Seems like Eminem8 did 22-Mar-03 DWI
               DWI, I read it, alright!! I agree wi 22-Mar-03 Eminem8
                 I do agree, although I don't wanna envis 22-Mar-03 DWI


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Rekha Posted on 20-Mar-03 10:54 PM


BoyZone

Words


Smile and ever lasting smile
A smile can bring you near to me
Dont ever let me find you gone
Cause that would bring a tear to me
This world has lost its glory
Lets start a brand new story
Now my love
You think that I dont even mean
A single word I say

Its only word
And word are all I have
To take your heart away

Talk in ever lasting word and
Dedicate them all to me
And I will give you all my life
Im here if you should call to me
You think that I dont even mean
A single word I say

Its only word
And word are all I have
To take your heart away

Da da da da da da da
Da da da da da da da
Da da Da da

This world has lost its glory
Lets start a brand new story
Now my love
You think that I dont even mean
A single word I say

Its only word
And words are all I have
To take your heart away
DWI Posted on 20-Mar-03 11:22 PM

Speaking of boybands, Rekha, how about "Back for good" by Take That. Nice lyrics

By the way "Words" wasn't originally from BoyZone. I don't know the original writer but Bee Gees have sung it before, BoyZone members were even born.
dangggg Posted on 21-Mar-03 06:36 AM

Rekha,
Thanks for reminding me of that song hai.
eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 08:15 AM

Amityville.

how about this for a change, This one is original, i assure you.

I f**ked my cousin in his a**hole, slit my mother's throat
{*AHHHHHHHH!*} Guess who Slim Shady just signed to Interscope?
My little sister's birthday, she'll remember me
For a gift I had ten of my boys take her virginity
{*Mmm mm mmm!*} And b**ches know me as a h*rny ass freak
Their mother wasn't raped, I ate her pu**y while she was 'sleep
Pis*y-drunk, throwin up in the urinal (YOU FUC*IN HOMO!)
That's what I said at my dad's funeral

shady
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 09:39 AM

Eminem8 ji

The Upper Elementary and Middle school kids; the pre-pubescent and those in their puberty GET a Thrill singing THAT song!

I assume you get a thrill singing and posting it! :)
eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 09:51 AM

You being in the education field are supposed to make sure those kids dont have access to that song, the one with the parental advisory stickers on it. But you guys have failed miserably, havent you?
Well, dont get me wrong here, i dont like shady saying all these things either, but i guess in this country we have the freedom of speech dont we. Freedom that dont stop dumbasses singing about rap*ng their own mother. Dont blame me for anything, i just want the bitter truth out.
of course when the Dixci chicks utilize their freedom of speech to express their opinion about the war-hungry president we have, they are unpatriotic, and simply wrong at having said that, that they had to freaking apolozige.

think about it.

Shady
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 09:58 AM

Eminem8 ji

NOTE: I said "SINGING" not listening!
khimu Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:01 AM

Eminem sounds like hola life
thats thats so so so shocking f**king word
i used to like EminEm i even bought the CD 2.
"real slim sheddy will you please shut-up"
this song singing by Christina Agulera i love this song
damn she hate Eminem hun
eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:13 AM

OO my god, lady.

how could they possibly "SING" without ever have heard that, or without ever "listening" to it.

Man, some people..................

shady
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:18 AM

OK Eminem8 ji:

Sorry...I forgot to spell out the established (or so I assumed) premise....."on school property"..... outside of-- is beyond jurisdiction! And NO schools don't buy those CDs.

But good points nevertheless. Surely, you will be prudent in letting your kids Not listen to such tagged commodities! :)
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:24 AM

La ta....bell rings!!!! Gotta go! Enjoy listening!

BTW Rapping is being used in creative writing, Literature and self-expression... It is another avenue to explore in education as undoubtedly memorization skills are needed to rap, in beat, rhythm and if one wants to accompany it with Greek-stepping....needs fine coordination!

Happy Rapping!
eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:27 AM

Well well, there you go again.
that was very much expected. Anything kids do outside the school is not your problem or concern, is it?It is simply out of your jurisdiction. And you tell me schools dont buy those CDs. Man..........
A kid gets beat up outside of the school by an older kid, there aint a damn thing you can do about it, is there? Simply freaking out of your jurisdiction.
I know all about it lady, i grew up dealing with your kind. Everytime i go for help, it was simply out of the jurisdiction, they said.........
WEll, lady, a kids life is not just inside the school compounds, is it now...
so if you are unable to go beyond your line of duty to make sure an innocent kid doesnt hear Eminem, or doesnt get beat up outside school, dont pretend like you do care.

Shady
eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:39 AM

I am glad rapping is coming to some use for you people in the educational field who are moulding todays kids, for tomorrow's bright future.
Good luck to you, and dont forget to thank people who invented rap, and people who keep it still alive, since you are using it now.........................

Shady
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 10:47 AM

Eminem8 ji

Unfortunately, it IS the sad truth you speak! The education system policies and child's rights are tied up in such a way that going "beyond duty-call" can land you up in court. Last week a counselor friend of mine had to intervene and call social services because the kid was wasting. She was called to court to testify and it was there (in court) she found out that he has AIDS! The father knew it all along but had not taken him for necessary care. The child has been removed...now looking for foster family to take him in. But the county is short of fundings for childcare, foster care, protection and child-advocacy. Unfortunately, the first thing that goes in any budget cut is funding for kids...whether it is in extracurricular activities, peer mediation and or drug/alcohol workshops.

I am extremely sorry you had a rough time growing up. The teenage years are difficult enough without having to defend against street attacks and/or bullying.

My best wishes to you!
DWI Posted on 21-Mar-03 11:44 AM

Well put Sitara. Your concern on the materials that the kids are exposed to shouldn't be taken lightly.

Eminem8, I know you have contributed few intellectual materials in the site, so I cannot ignore your writings. Most of the youths that are jumping in this Hip-hop bandwagon are following it because it exemplifies the condition they are in or they have seen. They like the crude reality it depicts which is avoided by most other media. We are wired with that certain rebellion attitude that ignores the mainstream norm and doses on the bitter pill of naked truth.

But, sometimes we do get carried away. You think what Marshal Mathews, and 50 cents for that matter, are saying is to bring out the truth? Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites, who very well know the present demand of showbiz. Even Eminem said that he writes the lyrics that should grab the attention of a bypasser who is just walking by a TV set. These lyricist forcibly put sentences in their work that provoke astonishment, often sacrificing the moral issues. 50 cents couldn't even hip-hop earlier until he got into the mainstream 'bad-boy' image and was encouraged by others to write.

The rivalry that you often see in the Hip-hops, in the likes of Jay-Z and Nas, 50 cents and Ja-Rule and earlier Tu-Pac and Notorious BIG are often created for the show biz. May be the latter one was for real, or eventually became real and ended up with the lives of the talented artists.

I am not saying the artists mentioned are not talented, but they are channelling their thoughts to a conscripted rhymes that youths so naively believe to be the only truth in the world. Few of them are real and most of them are painted. There are, however, few good ones who do try to channel the message to the public via Hip-hop. Like Nas, Grandmaster Flash, (Old School) and Public Enemy who wrote intelligent, revolutionary and socially outreaching lyrics.

My point? Hip-hop can be less offensive and most of the time that you percieve as reality is not, its just a show piece. Sometimes crude reality should be depicted and in those times it is better to keep it away from the nascent generation, as Sitara said.
Raksiya Posted on 21-Mar-03 12:09 PM

Eminem,
You said, You being in the education field are supposed to make sure those kids dont have access to that song, the one with the parental advisory stickers on it. But you guys have failed miserably, havent you?

--Sahja Eminem, first of all, how do you define a school, or an educational institution? Isnt this a place to gain knowledge, or to be taught valuable things in life!! What a teacher can do in utmost is edifying you by his lecture/oration regardless of your age, considering that youve a guardian at home to take care of off-school business; Teachers cant follow you to the Best Buy store where you can plainly buy a Eminems Show. What is a teachers liability? To give a lesson to his pupils not to listen violent, appalling, and unethical lyrics that can either influence wrecking your society or ruin your own life. And, yes, it is out of your jurisdiction of a school if a kid gets beaten up by other big kids outside of schools. If a teacher sees a student pulling out the gun inside school boundary, what he/she can do is call the law enforcement to defuse the possible violence.

Personally, to me, Eminem is a truly good person at heart and his music is truthful. His music may contain violent lyrics, but that does not necessarily mean that he is about to go out and kill someone. Yes, he did get in trouble when he allegedly threatened an associate of a rival Detroit rap groups. However, he has learned from his mistakes.

However, you have many valid points.
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 07:39 PM

Eminem8 ji...

Thanks... appreciate hearing from you....my reply came back "undelivered". Again, you do come across as a very intelligent young man. I truly wish you well in all your endeavors....and no! you did not offend me...takes much more than that!
SITARA Posted on 21-Mar-03 07:40 PM

Raksiya ji

Excellent points there!
Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai Posted on 21-Mar-03 07:45 PM

Last Christmas
The Wham!

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special


Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special


Once bitten and twice shy
I keep my distance but you still catch my eye
Tell me baby, do you recognise me?
Well it's been a year it doesn't surprise me
(Happy Christmas!)
I wrapped it up and sent it
With a note saying "I love you" I meant it
Now I know what a fool I've been
But if you kissed me now I know you'd fool me again


Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special


Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special

Oh! Oh! My Baby!

A crowded room, friends with tired eyes
I'm hiding from you and your soul of ice
My God I thought you were someone to rely on
Me? I guess I was a shoulder to cry on


A face of a lover with a fire in his heart
A man undercover but you tore me apart (...oo...hoo)
Now I've found a real love you'll never fool me again


Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special


Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year to save me from tears
I'll give it to someone special
A face of a lover with a fire in his heart
A man undercover but you tore me apart
Maybe next year
I'll give it to someone
I'll give it to someone special


Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai Posted on 21-Mar-03 07:49 PM

Aah
Buddy you're a boy make a big noise
Playin' in the street gonna be a big man some day
You got mud on yo' face
You big disgrace
Kickin' your can all over the place
Singin'

We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're a young man hard man
Shouting in the street gonna take on the world some day
You got blood on yo' face
You big disgrace
Wavin' your banner all over the place

We will we will rock you
Sing it
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're an old man poor man
Pleadin' with your eyes gonna make
You some peace some day
You got mud on your face
Big disgrace
Somebody betta put you back into your place

We will we will rock you
Sing it
We will we will rock you
Everybody
We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you
Alright
Desh_Bhakta_Bhattarai Posted on 21-Mar-03 07:49 PM

SMOOTH OPERATOR
Words and Music: Sade Adu and St. John

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

He's laughing with another girl
And playing with another heart.
Placing high stakes, making hearts ache.
He's loved in seven languages.
Diamond nights and ruby lights, high in the sky.
Heaven help him, when he falls.

Diamond life, lover boy.
We move in space with minimum waste and maximum joy.
City lights and business nights.
When you require streetcar desire for higher heights.

No place for beginners or sensitive hearts
When sentiment is left to chance.
No place to be ending but somewhere to start.

No need to ask.
He's a smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator.

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, western male.
Across the north and south, to Key Largo, love for sale.

Face to face, each classic case.
We shadow box and double cross,
Yet need the chase.

A license to love, insurance to hold.
Melts all your memories and change into gold.
His eyes are like angels but his heart is cold.

No need to ask.
He's a smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator.

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, western male.
Across the north and south, to Key Largo, love for sale.

Smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator,
smooth operator...

eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 09:44 PM

It is going to take a lot more, you say.

i am gonna keep on trying, then, ma'am.
HEEH............


shady
Prem Charo Posted on 21-Mar-03 11:05 PM

Eminem Jyu,
Brawling over irrelevant issues. Do I have to speak? Nah!!
Eminem8 Posted on 21-Mar-03 11:11 PM

i dont know if the war on iraq seemed irrelevant to you or children shivering from lack of clothes in nepal as well as here.
man, if these issues seem unimportant to you, you got your priorities all 'straightened' out man. You got absolutely nothin to worry about........................


shady
SITARA Posted on 22-Mar-03 06:48 AM

Eminem8 ji:

"Ma'am" ???? Nice! Do you really want to offend me? :(



Prem charo ji:

Eminem8 ji has raised very pertinent issues about kids in US; their home and school environment. I observe that having been a product of the US education system Eminem8 has an excellent perspective to the student's side of the story. Such perspectives should be taken into consideration when making education policies that affect the student body.

DWI:
Well expressed points there!
DWI Posted on 22-Mar-03 11:02 AM

Thanks Sitara.

Seems like Eminem8 didn't read it, otherwise I would have to face a barrage of attacks, eh Eminem?
Eminem8 Posted on 22-Mar-03 11:13 AM

DWI,
I read it, alright!!

I agree with you most of the parts, but you have to try to look at it from thier perspective too, which is understandable in some cases, like Marshall and maybe some other too.

How would you feel if you got beat up every day in school, and finally beat up so bad that he was in a comma. What if you werent accepted by the community you were in.
And what if you come home and find your mom doing coke or in bed with any man.
These things have to be considered, like Em said,' it provides fuel for the fire'.
But on the other hand he has understood what sells, and its hate, its something that is beyond a mere folkfore, as much of a taboo as it can be.
But all that he writes couldnt come out just because he wants to sell his album.
Well, tell me, would you ever be able to come up with those kinds of lyrics even if you knew it would make you richer beyond imagination.

Shady
DWI Posted on 22-Mar-03 01:26 PM

I do agree, although I don't wanna envision any of the things you said.

I just wanna stress the point that we shouldn't get carried away on beleiving everything they say. Most of the times they are influenced by record executives and they themselves are very prudent on production values. But no questioning the source of Eminem (& 50 cents, not Ja Rule) angst & words.