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| DWI |
Posted
on 01-Apr-03 07:59 PM
Any Smashing Pumpkins fans here?
I had heard a while back that they changed their band name to Zwan. Haven't heard much about them since. Are all the band members included? I heard the lead mand Billy Corgan is focusing more on Guitar in this band. I had seen a shagadelic poster of the band once.
After the declaration of Grunge, by the likes of Green Days and Pearl Jam, it seems alternative bands are changing their name or just hopping to different band wagons. Sound Garden, a good example.
If you've heard Zwan, is it as good as Smashing Pumpkins? Is the genre same?
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| DWI |
Posted
on 01-Apr-03 08:01 PM
Correction, 3 para,
Read: After the declaration of the Death of Grunge, by the likes of .....
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 02-Apr-03 01:25 PM
No! Smashing Pumpkins didn't change their name to Zwan. They disbanded totally. Hearing the band, however you might still feel like you are listening to the Pumpkins and that's totally understandable, given the fact that presence of Billy Corgan is so strong in both of them. It's hard to ignore the way he wails out every song in his own unique way and the way he matches his guitar licks with his voice, it was the same in Pumpkins, it's still the same in Zwan. Chris Cornell, I guess, doesn't have a lot of influence in Audioslave as he had in Soundgarden, so Audioslave doesn't sound a bit like Garden at all. Basically Zwan in half Pumpkins, outside Iha and D'arcy rest of the band members, namely Chamberlin and Corgan himself are there. Of course rest of the band members never really played an important role as Corgan did and it's still the same now. Corgan however is not as experimental as he was earlier, so Zwan sounds a lot like mellowed down version of Smashing Pumpkins. Not as good as Pumpkins, but good enough
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| DWI |
Posted
on 02-Apr-03 02:15 PM
Hey Sick, thanks for the headsup.
About Corgan not being experimental in Zwan, I thought he tried to do, atleast.The getups are shag-a-delic and a bit toned down. I haven't heard enough to enjoy, but if you say it's not as good as the Smashing Pumpkins, then I will take your word for it.
I liked Audioslave, better than Soundgarden. Soundgarden sounded so much like a wanna-be Led Zeppelin. Rage against the machine was little confused. Audioslave is heavily influenced by the Zepps, but it feels like a newer version of Led Zeppelin. I liked the visual shots of Cochise and instantly liked that song too.
Any other mentionable on that genre?
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| OneGirl_123 |
Posted
on 02-Apr-03 04:46 PM
Smashing Pumpkins? yeh heard about them. aint they like rock or metal or somethin, me not a fan of that, am more about hip hop, or r&b, u kno how it is!
:)
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| YoUnGblOOdz |
Posted
on 02-Apr-03 09:04 PM
gurl 123.. timi ra ma.. ta eutai biraddri ko parecha hehe..
yb
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 08:19 AM
hey guys,
I'm not a fan of punk rock/metal/ardrock, whatever it is, tara I remember hearing that one of the smackers died with drug O.D. Thats all! After his death the pumpkins stopped smashing ( source: VH1 behind the musak) Maybe that guy was like kurt was to nirvana.
dangggg
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 08:20 AM
BTW I have a copy of kurt cobin's death certificate. I can email it if you guys are interested.
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| villain |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:00 AM
Are you kidding us!! what will we do with Kurt Cobain's death certificate? and that too- in an e-mail?? puh-lease!!!
Anyways, I wasn't too happy with Billy Corgan's new band- Zwan. But what I can tell you, is that Audioslave (Chris Cornell w/former members of RATM) totally kicks ass!!! Tom Morello is a genius. Heard they're playing the Lollapalooza this year.
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:06 AM
Kurt cobain ko death certificate bhitta ma jhundayera rakhne ni. You would consider hanging it on the wall if you were a hanging fan of his. BTW I was talking about emailing a scanned copy of certificate.
If you're a hanging fan of kurt cobain, contact me. I have his death certificate and I can also get a copy of his suicide note, which is rear to find.
danggggg
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:21 AM
Nah!.. no one from Smashing Pumpkins ODed. At least I don't think anyone did. Must me some other band that you were thinking about, probably Shannon Hoon from Blind Melons... You know.. Melons, Pumpkins :O).. it's easy to get confused.
There are a lot of bands out there, but there are few that are really good, which never really are hit in the main stream and never really try to. Some get success in doing that, Radiohead is a good example, but not all do. I don't know if you guys heard of Mad Season, they are my best band, after Alice In Chains that is. They released just an Album and it totally rocks. It was a side project for guys from Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains, both of which influenced a lot of band today. It's sad that they are never going to come up with another album though, but that's another story. If you guys haven't heard the band yet, do!! I am sure you won't regret it.
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:27 AM
danggg!! I find it a bit weird to hang someone death certificate and suicide note, but I'd love to have it. I am trying to be on the good side of someone who's a big fan of Nirvana and I am sure this will totally win her over :O).
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:29 AM
"Birami manche"
Ya! sshanoon hoon from blind melons also had too many pills. I'm talking about the smasher who also happens to be brother of a holywood actress. Any ideas? tyo talu smasher thiyo ni smashing pumpkins. tt Ithink he used to be the lead vocal.
Je bhaye pani malai ke. Unlike DWI, I'm not a hanging fan of the pumpkins. Tyo pumpkin haru le blood ma dherai drug pump garera mare malai ke matlab. I'm not a fan of their music.
dangggg
Rusty bro,
get the ticket for 50 cent's concert. I wanna see them.
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:33 AM
Tyo talu pani ahile samma cha.. still rocks..but I had no idea he had an actress sister. Ani khai ta? How do you plan on sending me the death certificate and the suicide note ta?
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 09:47 AM
It's good to see Corgan back, the Bassist came from a perfect circle (side project of Maynard of Tool).....about Audioslave, I was hoping to see something of bigger magnitude out of two best bands ever, but they seem to not have much rage anymore, more like "pissed off at the machine"... De'La Rocha needs to come back to RATM and Thayil and gang need to reunite with Cornell.
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 10:13 AM
Birami bro,
Tapai birami hunu hudo rahecha, tyesai le dherai kasta dina maan lagena. 100.4 F+ jwaro aako cha bhane you should see a doc asap. SARS pani hun sakcha. Us 40+ manche mari sake re SARS bata.
Anywho, I can scan the certificate and email it to you as an attachment. Tara Ahile tyo cert kun chahi kuna ma cha, thaha chaina. I will have to look for it.
Let me know if you want it.
dangggg
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| dangggg |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 10:15 AM
Bingo!!!!
I'm gonna post the death certificate right here.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 10:18 AM
I always liked Alice in Chains. I will give it a hear to Mad Seasons, Sickman. Pearl Jam has been my all time favorite, too bad, Eddie Veddar never shot another video(except concerts) after Jeremy. But their last one was a junk.
Danggg, I'd choose Greend Days and Pearl Jam over Smashing Pumpkins, but like 'em too. Stone Temple Pilots, Nine inch nails used to be fun too. Enjoyed the rivalry between Radiohead and Oasis too.
JackAss, I am surprised that you found Audioslave worse than Rage Against Machine. Cochise was one of the best song I've heard on this genre, after ColdPlay's Yellow.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 10:22 AM
Don't your head spin by all these band members forming a new band every year, instead of making a new album.
Soundgarden -> RATM -> Audioslave
Smashing Pumpkins -> Zwan
Nirvana's Dave Gorhl -> Foo Fighters ->Queens of the Stone Age
The list goes on...
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 10:46 AM
Yeah and Perry Farrell (Jane's addiction, porno for pyros, father of Lollapalooza) has gone techno. And get this, Vincent Gallo, the director/actor... has worked on some tracks, together with Farrell. Too many transitions within and out of rock scene. Does not surprise me a bit, people keep walking thru the doors that lead to newer paradigms. That's what makes music one of the best things in life.
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 11:22 AM
Danngg bro!.. ahile samma ta biramai bhayeko chaina, tara aba Cobain dai ko death certificate ani Suicide note payena bhane ta definiltey huncha nai jasto cha. :O).. You can email it to me or as you said, just post it here, would be an awesome thread with Cobains death certificate and suicide note huh??
Ani DWI ra mero music ko choice chahin ati nai milne rahecha. I know it's sad to see your favourite bands breaking up and forming new bands and breaking up again, but one good thing about it is you get to listen to new kind of music all the time. But I like what Eddie Vedder and Bono do, just work on some side projects for a while and come back and make music with old band members again.
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| Bitchpatroll |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 12:06 PM
Well the keyboardist of Smashing Pumpkins did OD and die. Thats when they fired the Drummer. After that they disbanded and Oficially the Grunge Era was over.
Zwan is Corgan's solo pet project with the drummer that was fired from Smashing. They suck(too much Samshing Influence). Saw them with coldplay couple mnths ago at the Orpheum.
Farrell went Tchno long time ago. He did the Area 1 Concerts which were like Techno version of lollapoluza(4-5yrs ago). It was successful the 1st yer but crackdown by feds on Parties(raves for common folk) took a toll on that. But I like Farrell better than any of those hypocrite Rock Stars out there(he one o those been there done that dudes that would not hesitate to account all the shit he has taken). He is like a chameleon just like Bowie...Go with the flow. No use dwelling in your past glory..but try and excell in present and future.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 12:08 PM
Well said JackAss.
Sickman, yeah it sure sounds like our selections match. Are you a pre-death Nirvana fan or post-death? if u know what I mean.
So u like Eddie too? U hate Creed then? My take is, even though it seems like his voice seems very much alike Veddar's, Scott Stapp is not too bad either.
But living in this side of the country, I have to hear too much of hip-hop and raps even if I don't want to. Like danggg would say, Go Charlie, It's yo birthday.
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| villain |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 12:53 PM
So Mr. Bitchpatroll,
You seem to be knowing quite a lot about Billy and Zwan.... a big fan, i take it? How did the show (at Orpheum Theatre) go? I heard Coldplay stole the show.
.....are you a fan of Scott Stapp too??
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| Sickman |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 12:55 PM
Since I loved the Smashing Pumpkins a lot, I can't say Zwan sucks.. you know what I mean! It gets like that, you love the worst of the songs of you favourite band.. tyastai ho ke.. You feel for the band and the members so much that you hate to admit they are not good. Zwan's definitely not what Pumpkins were, it'd have been tough even for the Pumpkins to mantain the position they were in earlier had they still been around. As for Nirvana, I never really was a big fan of theirs. The songs I loved, I guess were very 'un-Nirvanish' kind of songs, the unplugged ones. Unplugged was awesome, tara khai kina kina I don't think it represents what Nirvana really was earlier. If Cobain was still around I think I'd have loved them though. Think he'd have made a lot of unplugged kind of music rather than insecticide kinds, tara ke thaha hai??
I like different kinds of music, but ones I don't like are raps and girlie pop kind of music. Yeah!! By the way has anyone listened to Type O -Ve cover of Britney Spears.. Loved that one though :O)
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| Bitchpatroll |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 02:07 PM
Nope I am not a Samshing fan at all. In fact I despise the whole Grunge scene. I liked nevermind the albuym cause of Vic chestnut(garbage) produced it. Has a unique sound feel to the whole thing(big fan of Vic and his studio savy techniques).
When people were in mosh pits getting injured i was already fully immersed into the party scene(common folks term RAVE). Up till '97 it was good then it went all downhill. Now all you see is parties being busted all the time(thanks to Fratboys and MTV).
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| OneGirl_123 |
Posted
on 03-Apr-03 03:50 PM
Hehe Youngbloodz :)
:)
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| villain |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 09:04 AM
Anyone of you thinking of going to the Lollapalooza this year?? They have an amazing line-up this year: Audioslave, Incubus, Jane's Addiction, Queens of Stoneage.....
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 11:29 AM
So tell me bitchpatroll, does house music sound much better when your on e?
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| Bitchpatroll |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 12:21 PM
Best Is hard trance(personal preference). It also depnds upon what you like as well. Some like that thump thump in high speed(faster you go better they like). That particular Genre is also called Goa. I only tried it(E) couple o times. it was ok. Heard its not good for your spine(got scared and stopped). House music in generally slower in pace than trance and Goa or Hardcore. But Electroclash is very popular these days(kinda skanking like reggae). But there is a lotta organic fusion music coming outta france these days that are really popular. Germans and English were popular for harder music back in the days. The Scandenavians and french tend to be a bit ecelectic...
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 12:34 PM
I like the sound of drums... and some bass. Been hooked on to Detroit's own Diesel Boy for years now. Figured,12 inches wasn't for me so bought one of them Korg's sequencer and I've been experimenting break beats now.
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| Bitchpatroll |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 12:50 PM
Uhh !! Deisal Boy is from Pittsburg. Hung out with him in '96. He was quite unknown then. If you like Drum N Bass Check out this record Label called Full Cycle out of Bristol UK and my favorite Moving Shadows Out of London. I personally think The Brits have the best Drum and Bass Scene cause thats where it all started. Sequencers are good but Midi's are better. and definately shit loads of samplers...oh yeah !!!
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 04-Apr-03 01:38 PM
yeah, pretty much anything new and good sounds come from Europe, from punk rock to metal to DNB. First time I saw Diesel Boy, was about 7 years ago, can u believe that he actually came to town with some of the caffiene people? Of course, DNB combines all the good elements of Hip Hop, Jungle and Techno. MetalHeadz, Formation Records, Prototype helped it grow, and there are people like GrooveRider, Doc Scott, Optical, etc. who really pushed it. All from the otherside. I use samplers, of course sequencer by itself isn't much. But experimenting with different pre defined loops with self made samples is the bomb. I am enjoying it a lot, thanks to computers, I don't need those expensive track machines. So, do you make your own samples? Maybe we can swap some.
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