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   Greetings All Although I was born in 09-Jun-01 Carpe Diem
     If you grew up in the US, you ought to k 09-Jun-01 sally
       Carpe, first of all, a republic type of 09-Jun-01 Puskar
         Greetings All I think communism is no 10-Jun-01 Carpe Diem
           i heard that in US only around 25% go fo 14-Jun-01 rp
             WHo believe that there's a real democrac 14-Jun-01 isabelle


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Carpe Diem Posted on 09-Jun-01 09:57 AM

Greetings All

Although I was born in Nepal I have lived in USA most of my life. The recent events have really shocked me and I could not believe all that occurred?

However looking back to Nepal, I have come to realize couple of questions, not about the King or Monarchy but about how the government is setup in Nepal?

1) Why did Nepal setup a British style imperialistic democracy instead of a more stable republic type of democracy?

My Opinion: Republic style, I believe provides more of a objective type of government and assures more fair play due to the checks and balances garnered by the 3 institutions (executive, legislative and judicial).
Basically a Girza type of person would not be able to survive in republic type of government, the executive leader would be directly elected by the people (the President/Premier) not the majority in the House.

2) How can communist parties and maoist parties co-exist within democracy?

My Opinion: The word communism/maoism by definition should be taboo in the context of democracy, because all that is communist/maoist are directly a threat to the idea of democracy and national security!

I believe Nepal is not a democracy, has not been in the last decade, I believe Nepal is still trying find it’s niche. Until Nepal finds out what kind of philosophy Nepal wants to develop, Nepal will be running in anarchy.

Please feel free to elaborate and disagree with my remarks! That is why I support the democracy!

Carpe Diem
sally Posted on 09-Jun-01 11:53 AM

If you grew up in the US, you ought to know that Communism is hardly illegal in a democracy.

Certainly most, and maybe all, European democracies have Communist parties that participate in those countries' parliamentary democracies.

But in the US there are multiple Communist parties, including Maoist parties--such as the Revolutionary Worker's Party, which has a web site with pro-Maobadi stuff. Gus Hall, Communist Party USA, ran for president in each election for decades and decades until his death. I think the largest number of votes he got was about 40,000, but I'm not sure. The McCarthy era, in the '50s, was the only time Communist parties were really taboo--and even then, although association with Communists could destroy a person's career, I don't think they were literally illegal (although I could be wrong).

Multiple factors have contributed to the fact that Communist parties have not been very successful in the US--from Roosevelt's New Deal welfare policies in the '30s, to the Cold War and the anti-communist mindset it engendered, to the entrenched nature of the two-party system, to an economy that may have its ups and downs but is functional enough to provide for peoples' needs, to the fact that people just plain don't take the Communists seriously.

But they're not illegal.

You can argue, as Namita has, that Nepal is simply not ready to be a fully functional democracy, and that now is not the time for certain ideas to be expressed there. While I don't agree, I do see the logic behind that particular argument.

But you really can't argue that democracy is compatible with the suppression of certain political ideas.
Puskar Posted on 09-Jun-01 12:15 PM

Carpe, first of all, a republic type of democracy does not favor constitutional monarchism. Since, in 2046, monarchism was still revered as the head of governance, it would have been politically chaotic to form a republic. For a country like Nepal, it was necessary to balance power between the monarch and the people's government. So, forming a democratic system with constitutional monarchism was the right thing to do in 2046.

Secondly, as Sally pointed out, communism is not a taboo to a democratic norm. Since you were brought up in the US, you were probably fed with the rhetoric that communism is bad, and not the rational why it is bad. Democracy should always allow the growth of any political ideology, may it be communism. The democratic system should check and balance whether a political ideology is bad for a country, and not what US thinks of it.

And, yes, democarcy only works when people in a country are literate. Today, Nepal faces a mammoth illeteracy, and is being run by some "illiterate and semi-literate" netas. In this context, Nepal is still not ready for democracy. It took Nepal ten years to learn this. And this is the reason why people inclined back towards monarchism.
Carpe Diem Posted on 10-Jun-01 09:42 AM

Greetings All

I think communism is not illegal in the US, but is taboo, however if one had been involved in a communist activity while in another country it would be very hard to get a visa/residency or citizenship in the US. I am sure there are many ways around it.

Also in the name of national security the US government does many things the common populace is not aware of. To the US gov, national security is more important than anything, even I hate to say it, democracy. In Nepal it seems like demorcacy is more important than national security. Once National security is compromised, democracy is at risk.

Persoanlly I don't know too much about Nepal, my artilcle were more to do with asking a question than really giving a comment or answer. Thank you Salley and Puskar for giving a different point of view.

Salley, the Idea that literacy is neccessary to bring about a democratic nation is hard to believe, many of the people in USA were illiterate when democracy was forming here. However they had leaders with foresight that thought of the nation instead of their wallets and they had enough resources to divide among their citizens. This is hardly the case in Nepal!

Who knows, maybe a monarch with shrewdness and business acumen is the leadership Nepal needs in order to develop into monarchical democracy. Sometimes tough love is the best medicine for tough childern. However I hope he will realize that the childern will grow up and sometime tough love does backfire.

I am very interested in how the government is setup in Nepal, could anyone point me to a site where I could get more info on how the government is setup in Nepal?


Carpe Diem
rp Posted on 14-Jun-01 12:31 AM

i heard that in US only around 25% go for Voting, Blacks r still beiing exploited & hatred, discrimination is high- recent incident of black youth killed by police & blacks were rioting,
many american still don't know where is the washington DC?

America was built under Black's Blood & South American's natural Resources. like, chile, peru, venezuela, el salvador, all of the latin american countries. even that time & still now exist democracy in USA. If it's a real Democracy, why shold we hesitate to Explain as a Demoncrzy Country & System.
isabelle Posted on 14-Jun-01 08:43 PM

WHo believe that there's a real democracy in US, there's as they used to say only a meritocarcy. As far i know communist is based on people and people are the base of a democracy. Pitty to see what happends all over the world china ex-russia. To see that communism became a good way to manipulate as imperialism is doing. But in europe communist and socialist and hand in hand. Anyway US is not a democracy. Stop this joke. It is an illusion of imperialism