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Model 1: Girija Is To Be Blamed The NC was in power more than most during the 90s, and Girija was Prime Minister more than most. But instead of consolidating the democracy, the Girijas of the world became the new establishment. Massive corruption was institutionalized. The aspiratinos of the Madhesis, the Janajatis, the Dalits, the women, the poor were not given proper channels. Things fall apart when the center can not hold. Girija's inflexibility that served so well in his quest for democracy became his bane post-democracy. A party with a clear majority going for mid-term elections is ridiculous. Girija does not know how to save face: he only knows how to corner his opponents into desperation. He does not understand compromise and coalition building is the name of the game in a democratic framework. Because the moderate center did not perform, the left and the right came in to fill the vacuum. Model 2: King G Is To Be Blamed The king gets neither democracy nor constitutional monarchy, or he would not talk of being a "constructive monarch." He has acted a mirror image of the Maoists in trying to fill the vacuum left by the political parties. That might be cunning, and possible in the murky waters of today, but it is not magananimous. The king patronizingly refers to the country as his family. That shows a lack of gut-feel for basic premises in democracy. King G got Chand to almost double the royal budget. That is NC style brahmaloot many times over. Model 3: Deuba Is To Be Blamed Why get rid of the parliament, bro! In the first place.... Model 4: The Maoists Are To Be Blamed Not even the Chinese are Maoists anymore. The haat bazar in a remote village in Nepal is the market economy in action. The ancient Buddhist republics were democracies in action. Those twins are the necessary engines for growth. Gorbachev knows more about communist theory than Prachanda or Baburam, and he has said the market is it. The LTTE have been far more lethal than the Maoists can ever hope to be, militarily. And the LTTE were not able to take over Colombo even after 20 vicious years. So the military option is out. It is laughable of the Maoists to think the king will willingly give over power. Not this king. If anything King G will want to expand his role. The dictatorship of the proletariat is not about to happen. Instead it is a game of who will blink first, and the two extreme sides do not care if the commoners suffer in the interim. Supermodel 1: Panchayat II There is a very real possibility the king decides he has had enough of it, and he plain takes over. Which will be the final blow of the right to the rest of the political spectrum. But such a move will, by definition, engineer a massive backlash. And more than Maoists will rally behind an all-out call for a republic. Supermodel 2: "Jana Sarkar" That does not exist in the rural areas either. It is more statelessness, lawlessness. And the urban centers hold strong. It can not be imagined Kathmandu can be taken over by the Maoists. Not going to happen. Supermodel 3: Constituent Assembly This is the only option for quickie peace. But one suspects those now in power will not go for it. Instead they will wait and wait and wait. For the Maoists to possibly tire out. In the mean time, the people be damned. Iraq will soon have elections for such a thing. And they will do fine for it. Let the people decide. But such a move will have to be simultaneous a total disarming of the Maoists. Supermodel 4: Inflexibility That Giriaj disease pervades the entire political spectrum. Mero goru ko barhai takka. This more than anything else is holding progress back.
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Posted on 01-14-05 7:49
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मलाई यहाँनेर एउटा कुराको याद आयो कि, रत्नपार्कमा एउटा सुइच्यो बेच्ने केटाले भन्दै थियो, ल आयो ५ चै रुपियामा ल सुइचो आयो, गर्मिको सर्दिको रुखा खोकि निको पार्ने, ज्यान दुखेको निको पार्ने, टाउको दुखेको पिनास सन्चो पार्ने, थकाइ कम गर्ने, सप्पै कुरा निको हुने ल आयो ५चै रुपियाँमा सुइचो! आयो ल किनिहाल्नुस्। यतिका कुरा निको हुने भनेसी त ५ रुपियाँको मुख हेर्ने कुरा भएन मैले पनि किने। पछि न रुखा न खोकि केहिपनि निको पार्दैन बा । कतै गणतन्त्रमा पनि यस्तै नहोला र? प्रजातन्त्रमा पनि भन्या हैन सप्पै कुरा चट् हुन्छ, भनेर? अगुल्टोले हान्या कुकुर बिजुलि चम्किँदा झस्किन्छ भन्या जस्तो त पक्कै हैन होला। अब गणतन्त्र आएपछि सप्पै कुरा छट भनेर बिस्वास गर्ने ठाउँ पनि छैन। कारण तल भन्दै जान्छु।
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Posted on 01-14-05 7:56
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>तपाईले गाँउ फर्क को कुरा निकाल्नु भो । तपाईको point बुझिएन तर जे भए नि त्यो माटो >सुहाउदो पन्चैती पर्जातन्त्रको महान गाईजात्रामा पुगेर टुङ्गियो । शहरबाट सुकिलो लुगा >लगार आका मान्छेले हाम्रा गाम्का पर्धान, उपपर्धान, वडा सदस्से मनोनयन गरेर फर्कन्थे >सर्वसम्मती गरेको बनेर । राजमुटुको, राजमुकुट हो क्यारे, त्यस्को बारेमा दिन्थे लामा लामा >लेक्चर गाम्लेहरुलाई, अरास्टे तत्व भन्ने भूत चिन्छम् भन्थे, तर नाम चाही बताउदैनथे । >गजबको समय थियो त्यो । हो, अहिले गणतन्त्रबादीहरुले ७ कक्षामा पढ्ने १३ वर्षै नाबालक नाबाकिकारुलाई स्कुलबाट अपहरण गरी जगंलमा लगेर भोकै माओबादको मन्त्रहरु सुगाँलाई जस्तो रटाएको कुरा भने युग सुहाउँदो पकृया कसरी भन्ने? १३ वर्षको बच्चालाई , त्यो काँचो माटोलाई निहित स्वार्तपुर्तिका लागि गुन्द्रुक कावदे जस्तो गरेर सिकाउनु बन्दा त पन्चायतको पर्सिक्षणलाई प्रजातान्त्रिक र मयार्दित मान्न सकिएला जस्तो मलाई लाग्छ।
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:04
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>बिहेको जन्तीबाख्रो खान आका पाम्नालाई के भनुँ के भनुँ भएर "मेरा गोबरग्वाँच रैतिहरुको >कानमा मीठो सुनिने एउटा नाम राख्न परो, यसलाई शान्ति क्षेत्र भन्द् याओन भाई" भन्या के >थे, भटाभट भैहाल्चनि किन नभन्थेम र भन्न थाली हाले पाउनाहरु । the rest is history, as >they say. बिहे जन्ति पास्नि या राज्यारोहण जे सुके होस्। यो बनेको कुटनिति हो। मिठो खाना बोलाको बेला भनेकै ठीक छ। त्यतिखेरका सल्लाहकारहरुले राजालई यति भएपनि बुद्दि दिएछन्। नेपालले स्विट्जरल्याण्डलाई ताकेको थियो तर संगत गुनाको पल! कुरा फरक के पर्यो भने स्विट्जरल्याण्ड युरोपमा तियो सफल हुन सक्यो, छिमेकीहरु पनि अलिकति उदार थिए होला, हामी परियो नेपाली । ऊ माथि दिप ब्रोले भन्या जस्तो युरोपियन साइकल नेपालीको हातमा पर्यो, ह्याण्डल गर्न सकेन। यसमा धत्तेरी गणतन्त्र मात्र भइदिया भे कस्तो मज्जा हुन्थ्यो भन्नु पर्ने कुरा केही पनि छैन जस्तो मलाई लाग्छ।
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:19
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तपाईँका उदगारबाट म उदाहरणको लागि @लिगंभेद@ भन्ने शब्द सापट लिन्छु। छोरीळाई छोरा सरह बाबु आमाको सम्पत्ति दिने निस्कृय राजतन्त्रात्मक देशहरु त यहाँले पनि देख्नु भएकै होला, सुन्नुभएकै होला। नेपलामा यस सम्बन्धी कानुनको मस्यौदा तयार भयो तर पास भएको छैन। कसले पास गर्ने हो? राजाले? हैन। तपाइँ हामीले चुनेका जनप्तिणिधिहरुले (तपाईवको शब्द सापट लिएर भन्नु पर्दा श्रीपेचेहरु) पास गर्न सक्छन् प्तिनिधि सभामा। खै त? किन पास भएन ? गणतन्त्रको अभाबमा? जननिर्बाचित श्रीपेचेहरुले पास गर्न दिएनन्। यसमा निस्कृय राजतन्त्रको कुनै दोष छैन। अपहरण गरेर जनतालाई जबर्जस्ती आफ्नो पक्षमा लाग्न लगाम लगाउनेहरुबाट के नै आसा गर्न सकिएला र वाकस्वतन्त्रताको कुरा, मानवअधिकारको कुरा, आन्दोलनमा जेनेभा सन्धि पालन गर्न नजान्नेहरु श्रीपेचे भएर कसो गर्ने हुन् कुन्नि। भने तपाईँले भन्या जस्तो सफा दिलको श्रीपेचे गणतन्त्रमा झन कसरी जन्मिन्छ भनेर आसा गरौँ? This is just a quiry neither a personal blame to Nepe jee nor to any individual.
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:24
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The Zone of Peace Proposal first released by the late General Padam Bahadur Khatri (who was one of the members of drafting the proposal and the points) , was Nepal's effort to break the "special" relationship with India and have a modern-diplomatic and trade relations with India. It was also Nepal's effort at independent foreign policy. I understand it this way. This is why, India did not support the proposal. As some posters wrote, it was one of Nepal's biggest diplomatic adventure which came to a total halt when the new regime somehow indebted to India for its help and support for the democracy movement, replaced the old one.
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:24
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who was one of the members of drafting the proposal and the points= who was one of the members the team that drafted the proposal + points
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:34
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If the Congressi govt of Krishna Pd. Bhattarai had not discarded the Zone of Peace proposal, Nepal would have been saved of various problems that it's facing now. Birendra Sarkar understood the world well, one has to give him credits for that. More than 10 years before the UN passed its resolution 1373 in 2001, Nepal had proposed anti-terrorism resolution when the SAARC summit was held in Kathmandu. All 6 countries supported it, except India. The Zone of Peace proposal too contained a primitive version of UN resolution 1373. Nepal would not let any anti-state elements/groups from teh countries that accept the ZoP propsal and vice-versa. India couldn't accept it because, if it had accepted it, it would have to send back BP and other congressi/communit leaders who were in India. India needed those leaders to put a pressure on Nepal. And Kishunji, Girija repayed the favor by abandoning the whole proposal all together!
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:37
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Nepal would not let any anti-state elements/groups from teh countries that accept the ZoP propsal and vice-versa= Nepal would not let any anti-state elements/groups from thh countries that accepted the ZoP propsal to opearte in Nepal, and vice-versa.
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Deep
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:48
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RanaRani tantra chali ra bela ma ganatantra ganatantra bhanda bhandai ranatantra (rana = ladai, dwanda), kun sadko ganatantra bhayera janta mathi jai jagyo bhane ta ganthe! hami chai sentiflyat matrai bhairani bhanya prabho? ek thari le prajatantra lyaim bhane, arka thari le diyim bhane, ajha arka thari le kayam garim bhane--tara jasle je bhane ni kuro ta uhi--- prajatantra aayo. Aauna ta aayo tara gayo kata beiman?
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Posted on 01-14-05 8:51
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deep bro, prajtantra farkera gayo. jai nepal hall ma third class ko ticket katera "avataar" film heri ra thyo, tyahi bata bepatta bhayo tyo! Bhaarat tira lagyo re mumbai ma hero huna.
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:02
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IF Bro! गिरिजा खत्तम किताब नै नपढ्ने, जे हुन्छ, हुन्छ भन्ने लिँढे बानिले। बाबुराम दाइ, क्रान्तिका किताब मात्र पढेर त्यस्तै गर्छु भन्दै तम्सिने । भन्न खोज्या के ऊ माथि, हिजो। अनि अलि अलि तापाईँलाई ब्यंग हान्या पनि हो, छुस्स।
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:15
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GP, That was pretty cheap and disgusting behaviour you showed in your posting above. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Nepe, Ashu and their pro/con republican views, the way you trashed Nepe - not by coming up with your own ideas to surmount his, but by regurgitating Ashu's - was pretty low. Gave me the impression of Sakuni sitting on the sideline rubbing hands with glee while Duryodhana and Bhim wrestles each other. For once, please come up with your own "tarka-bitarka". And by that, I mean well thought out ones. Most of your postings are usually emotional bursts that are hard to understand. I'm not sure if that is because of your poor English or just because you are inarticulate, period. I apologize to others, this posting is off-topic. We were/are having a lively discussion here, which I am sure many, like me, are silently enjoying. I just had to say something when a totally asinine posting comes along to break the flow, that too with obvious "chakadi-baaz" malicious glee. Riten
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:18
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dada giri, hernus, mero padhai ko kshetra ma kitab padhnai parcha- aba tapai jasto sarba gyani parina ma, k garnu? yadi yaha jasto sarba gyani bhayeko bhaye ma ni DongJing Da Xue (Imperial University, Tokyo. Renamed Tokyo University: read it on a book!!) ma padhthe, k garnu? ani to make up for that lack of knowledge, I have to read whatever I can get my hands on, remember, analyze and display my stupidity in front of the world. That's how the system works here.
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:26
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यसरी रिसाउनुहुन्छ भन्ने जान्या भे मैले त्यो जाबो २ हरप लेख्ने नै थिइन।
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:35
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Jay nepalma avatar ko kura garera IF bro le kya demokrasi samjhaidyo yaar---hai ani rajesh khanna lai chhoraharu le sentiflyat parde ni ke ta tya jay nepal ma---tyo fas klas ma basera herya (tikas kinya thir klass ko ani sekan klas ra fas klass/espesal chhutyaune laamo seat ko row thyo ni ho tyo row ek fadko mare si ta fas klass/espesal afnai), hai tya ta aaimai haru roi ra bhanya---senti bhai ra ke---afu chai adhyaro ma ni euta aankhale katai ramri keti fela parchhe ki pani bhandai hai ani arko aankhale katai gharka manchhe ko fela parinchha ki pani bhandai hai--tyai ta honi... tyo jay nepal ma thir klass agadi parda ko debre tira kasauti bhanne cinemako poster thyo kya thadayera rakhya---kasauti ahile laula bhare laula bhanda bhandai tara khai kaile layena---ek thari bhanthe pailei la thyo re kahile ho--- achel bhanchha ni saat saal ma prajatantra aa thyo re---ani 15 saalma ni aa thyo re---afulai tha chhaina ---afno paalama ta tyai kasauti jasto prajatantra aayo ki ke ho ta saathi ho? ki malai chilimko kami bha ho?
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:37
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hya bro, rishayeko hoina :-). bhako kura bhanya ni. actually, i enjoyed reading that post. tara maile bhanna khojeko k ho bhane: its perfectly alright to borrow frameworks from the books or movies, provided that you read at least 5 books supporting/dismissing that framework. Ani add your own analysis. But you have to give the credits to all those who deserve it ni, i.e., the people whose ideas/framework you borrowed. Tyasai artkale gareko research lai mero ho bhanera chorna ta bhayena ni. That's why I included the name of the book and the author, whose framework I borrowed. aba yahi mauka ma yahalai euta kitab suggest garu ki? Gajjab ko duita Kitab cha Japan ko modern History ko barey ma, duitai Pulitzer Prize winner: Hirohito and the Making of Modern Japal (from Meiji's death to 1945). Embracing Defeat: japan in the wake of World War II (from 1945 - the end of American occupation). :-)
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:45
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euta kos atta duita kitab suggest gardiyeko.. mero bau ko k jancha ra? ... deep bro, tyo jai nepal ma third class ma basera night show avatar hereko ma jindagi bhar birsinnaa.. yati pitai khaye ghar ma, bhanera sadhya chaina.. :-)
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:48
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2 class dekhi nagayeko Jay nepal, ekai choti SLC diney taka Hafta Bandh herna pugya thiye. Harif filim thyo- nepal ma ni sabaile hafta Bandh garnu paryo, maobadi ra sarkar lai.
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Posted on 01-14-05 9:51
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रातभरि साझा हेर्दे ठिक्क ! दिनबरि अफिस जाँदै दिक्क !! भन्या जस्तो छ। अनि एउटा सिफारिस गर्छु भनेर २टा गर्नु भो। तर दुइटै हेर्या जस्तो पनि लाग्छ तेइ नि हेरम्ला नि फेरि ब्रोले सिफारिस गरिहालेसी। (अनि ब्रो! त्यहाँ कुन जग्गा हो कुन्नि ? हाम्रो इश्वर नि थियो यता स्यान्हाइतिर त। भेटेदेखि रामरी काम गर् रे! भन्दिम है। ल दिप ब्रो नि यहीँ छ अब IndisGuise नि आउला यसबेलातिर यसो निस्किन्थ्यो, म तास निकालेँ है कलब्रेक ... ... ...फिट्दै गरम् ... ... ...)
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ma chahi uttari rajdhani tira. tapai purbi rajdhani ( characters for purba+ rajdhani) ma, ma uttrai rajdhani (characters for uttar+rajdhani) ma.
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